China's Type 041 Mini Nuclear Attack Sub is Unlike Any Other Submarines

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@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
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@verypleasantguy
@verypleasantguy 5 ай бұрын
They will not use the conventional Lithium battery in critical weapons such as Type 041 They will use Lithium-Titanium-oxide (LTO) battery instead (google it up if you haven't heard of it)
@zomgneedaname
@zomgneedaname 5 ай бұрын
have you got an affiliate link? I would definitely do this with my mates, been talking about making bets on stuff like this since forever!
@mariosamper8186
@mariosamper8186 5 ай бұрын
a new Chinese submarine where everything is secret, here comes this video telling details of the submarine lol what was the source of this video please
@wansichen3743
@wansichen3743 Ай бұрын
ya well indeed the type 041 is unllike any other submarine , no other submarine have sank while under construction/development
@RichardsMiscCorner
@RichardsMiscCorner 5 ай бұрын
these would be a nasty surprise for the US silent service, because they can go places the larger nuke attack subs can't and remain undetectable. Not to mention China can build these at far greater numbers and quantity.
@leonardpearlman4017
@leonardpearlman4017 5 ай бұрын
It might be that they can stay submerged and quiet for a long time!
@CulturedThugPoster
@CulturedThugPoster 5 ай бұрын
Even if they have built a submarine capable of matching the current US/British fleet it does not and will not for some time developed thier logistics, strategies, tactical deployments and experience that the NATO units have. I'm not saying the Chinese do not have the potential to improve in these areas, but they take time to develop and no amount of money thrown at the problem will speed that up.
@RichardsMiscCorner
@RichardsMiscCorner 5 ай бұрын
@@CulturedThugPoster this isn't their first nuke sub....
@verypleasantguy
@verypleasantguy 5 ай бұрын
@@CulturedThugPoster FACT: China has mapped all the seafloor, all around the world Therefore, tactical deployment is no longer an issue Strategy wise ---- The Chinese have a lot more strategies inside their treasure trove than you couldn't begin to imagine Experience wise ---- Granted, the Chinese are behind in underwater warfare experiences, but, it won't take them long to learn
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts 5 ай бұрын
@@verypleasantguylong enough to no longer exist.
@MrBdoleagle
@MrBdoleagle 5 ай бұрын
Have to admit this is genius design, China NAVY buildup is really solid and fast paced
@robertseaborne5758
@robertseaborne5758 5 ай бұрын
Type 041 could play similar role to that of the German U boats during WW2; small yet very effective subs hunting like a 'wolf pack'.
@rifgodinho
@rifgodinho 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. Hypersonic missiles launched by the torpedoes tubes, "short range", 200km.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Good to see you
@barryneild379
@barryneild379 3 ай бұрын
​@@EurasiaNaval*you Dummy, leaking Secret 🖕 think you are smart ONLY A CLOWN wants to attract attention*
@barryneild379
@barryneild379 3 ай бұрын
​@@EurasiaNaval*you Dummy, leaking Secret 🐷 think you are smart ONLY A CLOWN wants to attract attention*
@barryneild379
@barryneild379 3 ай бұрын
​@@EurasiaNaval*you D u m m y, leaking Secrets 🐷 think you are smart ONLY A C.L.O.W.N. wants to attract attention*
@MrBdoleagle
@MrBdoleagle 5 ай бұрын
If China can make this, an unmanned nuclear attack submarine is also achievable. It could remain submerged forever in theory because the only limit 041 has is its food supply for crews, which does exist for a similar but unmanned design. This is really a genius design. Thanks for making such a great video too
@RichardsMiscCorner
@RichardsMiscCorner 5 ай бұрын
and no need for oxygen replenishment - so removing a noise source as well.
@MrBdoleagle
@MrBdoleagle 5 ай бұрын
@@RichardsMiscCorner yes, could stay submerged forever around enemy's Navy route or around their ports. 1500ton this type of SSKN submarines could carry many heavy torpedos and start attack when the time comes...
@RichardsMiscCorner
@RichardsMiscCorner 5 ай бұрын
@@MrBdoleagle small size means it could stay in the Taiwan straight. US navy has no subs that could stay in the Taiwan straight.
@GavinQuan
@GavinQuan 5 ай бұрын
Then, AI would be another issue. Actually, I don't think human being can train this kind of AI to fulfill sophisticated tasks without enough historic data base.
@RichardsMiscCorner
@RichardsMiscCorner 5 ай бұрын
@@GavinQuan so many historical battles are open source. or open source enough though.
@damien2198
@damien2198 5 ай бұрын
with batteries, the sub should be able to reach very high speed for a short duration. Lithium batteries are game changer for subs (the French have proposed a Li version of the Scorpene)
@MrBdoleagle
@MrBdoleagle 5 ай бұрын
Given the fact China has the best technology in battery
@TheGreatAmphibian
@TheGreatAmphibian 5 ай бұрын
Why are you talking about this as if it is real? Didn’t you notice the absence of sources and do any checking? It’s an internet fantasy.
@phils4634
@phils4634 5 ай бұрын
Nuclear powered too! That will be a very useful weapon system, and demonstrates China's very innovative thinking. It will also be cheaper than a "full-sized" nuclear sub too (so possibly an opportunity for a significant fleet number)? Small also means small outline, and presumably smaller crew, so economical on crews too. Might this also be of benefit in providing a training platform for nuclear sub crews too?
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 5 ай бұрын
a dedicated antisubmarine submarine would probably require a far smaller crew since it's role would be be so specialised
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Thanks again
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient. Oh yes --- very innovative thinking hahahaha
@barryneild379
@barryneild379 3 ай бұрын
​@@EurasiaNaval*you D u m m y, leaking Secrets think you are smart ONLY A C.L.O.W.N. wants to attract attention*
@jwickerszh
@jwickerszh 5 ай бұрын
Imagine a similar design but unmanned ...
@treedillon
@treedillon 5 ай бұрын
When he mentioned the miniaturization advantage of 041, I also thought of unmanned combat.
@johnsmith1953x
@johnsmith1953x 5 ай бұрын
No doi...
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts 5 ай бұрын
That’s what Americans have unmanned.
@sustainablerenewableintegr8311
@sustainablerenewableintegr8311 5 ай бұрын
Nuclear torpedo 🙃
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Communication and IFF are two main hurdles to long-range submarine drones
@phils4634
@phils4634 5 ай бұрын
Now that China is undisputed World Leader in lithium (and other) rechargeable battery technology, I wonder if Russia might be using, or at least seriously considering, such systems to upgrade their sub energy storage systems? A new customer for CATL perhaps? 😀
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 5 ай бұрын
Russia has been developing such system for Kilo / proj. 877 class some 2 decades ago.
@GavinQuan
@GavinQuan 5 ай бұрын
@@piotrd.4850 So why China is retiring their Kilo bought from Russian?
@siewkonsum7291
@siewkonsum7291 5 ай бұрын
To the Chinese, small is beautiful. They are producing large numbers of 'small' fast, very energy efficient, easy to service & inexpensive to maintain, and versatile to outsmart & destroy enemies' subs or anti-subs warships .
@twlamSG
@twlamSG 5 ай бұрын
Chinese prefer to operate many smaller subs recently because their scientist has found a new way to detect submarine in any waters just by observing the movement of water at the top. They can even check back for days and map the precise submarine movement using satellites. They have proven and submitted a paper on that. It will be just a matter of time before US is able to do it consistently too. Hence, to counter this possible detection in the future, China invested in smaller submarine technology. They will still want to design big submarines so I suspect they are finding ways to reduce swells gliding under water.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
@yunko9369
@yunko9369 4 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter Didn't know today battery technology is the same a hundred years ago???
@yunko9369
@yunko9369 4 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter Also didn't know there was nuclear reactor 100 years ago!
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 4 ай бұрын
@@yunko9369 Learn sarcasm I know I told you not to come back here until you educate yourself..
@MicMc539
@MicMc539 5 ай бұрын
AUKUS still can't organise a meeting, never mind a Submarine Fleet. I do miss the days of Diplomacy. Peace.
@tigersilberhannes9153
@tigersilberhannes9153 5 ай бұрын
Amerikan Submarines are totally useless for Australia, the Sea around Australia is just not deep enought. Now such a small submarines like this one here might be different if Australia really wants to long range of a nuklear powered submarine.
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 5 ай бұрын
@@tigersilberhannes9153 also Australia literally has no nuclear industry. It would require the creation of an entire supply chain to maintain those subs. Unless the plan was for australian crews to permanently station in the US.
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts 5 ай бұрын
@@hughmungus2760we gave Australia subs.
@katprowler6805
@katprowler6805 5 ай бұрын
AUKUS is just US MIC milking Australia for all it's worth and laughing all the way to the bank.
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts 5 ай бұрын
@@tigersilberhannes9153 you need nuclear powered subs if you want to reach out and touch someone off their shores that’s why even China wants them.
@jamesmandahl444
@jamesmandahl444 5 ай бұрын
Almost like a nuclear AIP. This thing could constantly keep charge and stay under the sea for weeks.
@frank-y8n
@frank-y8n 5 ай бұрын
Molten salt nuclear reactor? Det Norske Veritas recently approved the design of a 24k container vessel powered by such a reactor to sail between Atlantic and Pacific through the Arctic Ocean all through the year. These reactors work at much higher temperature, are therefore more efficient and have to get rid of much less waste heat. The reactor for this boat will be much smaller and might be based on a test reactor from the development of the reactor for the merchant ship.
@tuomasandersson3889
@tuomasandersson3889 5 ай бұрын
I'm no expert, but this consept sounds brilliant and dangerous.
@justme6275
@justme6275 5 ай бұрын
T041 looks exciting 👍
@suntzu1409
@suntzu1409 5 ай бұрын
Basically an AIP sub that doesn't need to snorkel and can stay underwater indefinitely like any nuclear sub. Sounds like an incredible combination
@GMATveteran
@GMATveteran 5 ай бұрын
The Type 041 could still have some limited standoff strike capability if it was armed with torpedo tube launched anti-ship missiles, but w/o VLS, it certainly wouldn't be able to provide the volume of fire that a full SSN with VLS would. I wonder whether an unmanned version of this sub is possible. If so, it could eliminate the endurance bottleneck of food/water supplies, enabling it to stay out at sea practically indefinitely. The space that's freed up from the manned crew could be used for additional sensors, weapons, &/or batteries.
@ragabara1031
@ragabara1031 5 ай бұрын
I have similar thoughts. It's difficult to imagine how a small vehicle with battery-driven propulsion could discreetly dissipate power in order to stop, if the energy source was continuous and frequent power cycling was impossible. It led me to the hypothesis that such a submersible will not make frequent port calls for resupply and servicing, and may be out at sea for several years at a time. Obstacles to this include geographic navigation, intelligent management of onboard systems, frequency and timing of communications, and predictive maintenance.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Communications and IFF are two big hurdles to combat submarine drones at present
@okaforkosiso1474
@okaforkosiso1474 5 ай бұрын
The funniest thing about USA navy is that, they don't have enough combat ships to escort transport and resupply ships across the whole parcific
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
Can you provide citations ? Or is that just your personal feelings ?
@okaforkosiso1474
@okaforkosiso1474 5 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter us naval command stated it in 2021. Telling the transportation group not to expect 100 percent protection from the combat group. That was why trump planned to add extra 500 platforms to the navy buy Biden administration failed to accomplish it
@johnbodman4504
@johnbodman4504 5 ай бұрын
They will be fantastic little boats for coastal defense, much more useful than a standard diesel electric. They will also be much cheaper than a full size nuclear boat and will be better in shallow water.
@tritium1998
@tritium1998 5 ай бұрын
It makes sense for torpedo subs to be as quiet and small as possible to hide and maneuver in tighter spaces. The bigger subs can be VLS missile batteries.
@niust
@niust 5 ай бұрын
exciting news!
@sustainablerenewableintegr8311
@sustainablerenewableintegr8311 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully the reactor could breed thorium solid fuel rods. That'll be awesome! China has tons of thorium that come as a byproduct of rare earth mining
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
@redblueyankee8343
@redblueyankee8343 5 ай бұрын
My Sinosphere brothers, have you ever thought that the combination of naval technology in general and the submarine forces of Sinosphere countries in particular with the large numbers will help us protect ourselves better? We are all fed up and hate America's political and military oppression and Islam's cultural invasion, now is the time for us to stand up and unite together. Love to all my Sinosphere brothers from Vietnam ❤️🥰
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 5 ай бұрын
Islam is part of Chinese civilization. But Sharia law is not !
@potatonoodlebear8035
@potatonoodlebear8035 5 ай бұрын
Well, as a Chinese, your views still sound quite extreme. Chinese don’t want war nor hatred, brother.
@redblueyankee8343
@redblueyankee8343 5 ай бұрын
​@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 No it's not and it never will be. That desert sect will never be a part of noble Chinese civilization. If you pay attention, from language to way of thinking it has nothing to do with China. Without Islam the Sinosphere culture is still great and without it we are even greater.
@redblueyankee8343
@redblueyankee8343 5 ай бұрын
​@@potatonoodlebear8035I respect your opinion, brother. But you will see the consequences of the above in the future soon
@Vhvjdow0ajsbcdhcuei3o22-om4sm
@Vhvjdow0ajsbcdhcuei3o22-om4sm 5 ай бұрын
There are like 1.5-2.5 Chinese countries maybe 2.75 if you count Malaysia
@bradgolding6847
@bradgolding6847 5 ай бұрын
Thanks ENI, another excellent video.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Thanks again!
@MS-wz9jm
@MS-wz9jm 5 ай бұрын
Something im interested to see is how/what the Chinese plan to use for conventional attack on the US mainland. The US's primary goal in a conflict with China is the damage and destroy its industry (civilian), Taiwan is completely irrelevant. US believes it can do this with no threat to its own industry. China is in need of conventional attack capabilities on the US mainland.
@ctrlaltdebug
@ctrlaltdebug 5 ай бұрын
The US already destroyed it's own industries with regulations that increased cost of production, financialization, and globalization.
@xinyiquan666
@xinyiquan666 5 ай бұрын
i do not think US can do it anymore , because china has far more gears withine zone of 5000 km around china, both air and sea , also china will go to Alaska first ,via flying over russia and transport from russia, then enter alska, while US has no base to send large land force to china, through japan is a sea route, not possible , because china has more air force and navy ship, and more of everything,
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts 5 ай бұрын
America does not want to hurt the Chinese your being lied to.
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts 5 ай бұрын
@@xinyiquan666America have 3x more fighters and 5x more regular combat planes than China.
@Joshua-dt5vi
@Joshua-dt5vi 5 ай бұрын
​​​@@xinyiquan666 How is China gonna land on Alaska if the US has squadrons of f-35s? Do you think they will just do nothing? And how will China also cross the sea? Did you for get that Canada is also and ally of the US? This isn't fallout.
@philoso377
@philoso377 2 ай бұрын
Nice video presentation. Page 6:40 I agree 1, that nuclear thermal energy to drive sterling engines for mechanical power. Disagree 2, to use it to turn alternator for 3, electricity, to 4, charge battery, to 5, energize the marine motors. If each conversion is 90% efficient, after four conversion we have 65% left. More process opens up more chance to break down problem. Why not apply Sterling engine to drive the propeller? When speed is place on top, stealthy is second important. On the other hand when stealthy is on top, speed from lithium ion battery can be second.
@ПИЦКВлад
@ПИЦКВлад 5 ай бұрын
❤❤thank you… good plausible analysis🙏🌹
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@crazyelf1
@crazyelf1 Ай бұрын
In regards to the endurance of food, although the submarine is smaller, a smaller submarine also means less crew, so the endurance gap may be snaller. SSKN can't entirely replace the traditional SSN, but it is a viable option for many applications. Plus several of them could be bought per SSN.
@antonywooster6783
@antonywooster6783 4 ай бұрын
21:45 I wonder, does the small size make it easier to give a sub a greater depth capability? I.e. can the 045 type sub work at a greater depth than larger subs? As a non-expert in this field it seems to me that it should.
@napper2212
@napper2212 5 ай бұрын
With current advances in AI technologies, it's no longer essential to produce large manned nuclear subs. I'd suggested 10+ years ago that it would be far more effective & economical to use small unmanned nuclear attack submarines each carrying just a few specialized torpedoes, accompanied by dedicated command-control-computing-surveillance boats (also nuclear powered) working in small tactical groups in conjunction with larger manned attack subs & carrier battle groups. It's far easier, cheaper & faster to design, produce, repair, & replace small, quiet unmanned nuclear attack subs. With its current ship building capabilities, China can easily produce 20-30 such unmanned mini nuclear attack subs & auxiliary boats every year.
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv 5 ай бұрын
AIP boats are also very slow in AIP mode because of the battery / Stirling engine output. 041 with a combined battery + high output Stirling engines will be faster than an AIP sub in stealth mode
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
What is a high output Sterling engine ??
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv 5 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter The 4 being used on 041 with combined output of 10 MW. Existing AIP sterling engine only have output in the dozen kilowatt range
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
@@Peizxcv What are model numbers Sterling engines are being used ? Hell -- What is a sterling engine ?
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
@@Peizxcv Let us know when your ready to explain it too all of us.
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv 5 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter You aren’t Biden, he is handicapped enough he cannot look it up
@xuansu9036
@xuansu9036 5 ай бұрын
interesting. I wonder if they could also include a Thermoelectric generation device to more fully utilize the heat from the reactor, and also for the situations where even running the stirling engine could be too noisy.
@caoeason9102
@caoeason9102 5 ай бұрын
Can any one answer me why the regular nuclear submarine do not use stirling engine, as opposed to steam turbine??
@jiokl7g9t6
@jiokl7g9t6 5 ай бұрын
I've been asking this question ever since I realised how Stirling Engines work.
@ctrlaltdebug
@ctrlaltdebug 5 ай бұрын
Shouldn't steam turbines generate less vibration than a reciprocating engines like the Stirling?
@leonardpearlman4017
@leonardpearlman4017 5 ай бұрын
Well, steam power is a mature technology, giant Stirling engines are something we don't see every day, have never seen. Are they turbines? This would make sense. You can easily say what that might be like, (pressurized, using turbines. continuous flow, so heat-exchangers instead of regenerators... filled with Helium maybe) but I don't know of any examples, and nothing on the scale of megawatts. In CHINA there might be a College or a design bureau or both devoted entirely to this, they have a lot of Engineers!
@danielch6662
@danielch6662 5 ай бұрын
IANAE, but IINM, steam turbines are more efficient as they scale up.
@rogerzen8696
@rogerzen8696 5 ай бұрын
Sterling engines are much less efficient than steam engines, i.e. less power from nuclear fission is converted to mechanical power to drive the propeller. I suspect this is the main reason sterling engines are not widely used in SSNs. In the case of 041, since it is driven by the battery and the sterling engines are only used for charging, the lack of efficiency doesn't impact speed. A very smart design.
@zbaktube
@zbaktube 5 ай бұрын
I think the best property of this sub is that it is small and slow and powerless. This is more for minding there business around China and let alone the world. It seems like a slow, cheap but effective patrol sub. And I would call it defense/patrol instead of attack submarine. This does not cause any trouble for the world for sure. I would rather see 10 Type 041's then one Type 095.
@Ace1000ks
@Ace1000ks 5 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone used the Stirling Engine for any large application like this. China is producing a unique type of submarine which is quieter than a conventional nuclear submarine.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
@Ace1000ks
@Ace1000ks 5 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter The electric motor used in electric cars is 136 years old, so what is your pointless point?
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
@@Ace1000ks hahahaha what ?
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
@@Ace1000ks Let us know when your ready to explain it too all of us.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
@@Ace1000ks Let us know when your ready to explain it too all of us.
@StraussBR
@StraussBR 4 ай бұрын
This looks great on paper it seems to me there could be a valuable use for drone submarines so food won't be a problem
@MrBdoleagle
@MrBdoleagle 5 ай бұрын
this is technology breakthrough like nuclear weapon miniaturization. Traditional nuclear technology have to take huge capacity for its reactors/turbine engines, thus many constraints applied like space, can't got shallow water etc. but this approach could make it much smaller while keep all the advantages from SSN
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
@Steven-k8t
@Steven-k8t Ай бұрын
they can also escort SSBNs & CVNs in the China seas for ASW, & use MREs to extend the time at sea! A US Marine told me that he can survive on 1 MRE for 2 weeks, eating a little at a time. Submariners use a lot less energy.
@jiokl7g9t6
@jiokl7g9t6 5 ай бұрын
Expect the reactor power and the battery capacity to scale up over time: VLS will come over time.
@Thinkofwhat
@Thinkofwhat 5 ай бұрын
Nuclear Hybrid powered by the CATL 500wh/kg Condensed Battery:)
@GavinQuan
@GavinQuan 5 ай бұрын
This concept has huge potential market in ASEAN, Australia and Europe.
@NewAgeOfPower
@NewAgeOfPower 5 ай бұрын
SSK(N)s were first proposed during the Cold War as ~3000t, primarily diesel-electric boats with small 1.3MW nuclear powerplant recharging the batteries, allowing the option of avoiding surfacing at the cost of limiting themselves to crawling speed. However, immature technology and high regulatory/compliance costs meant they were still very expensive; and totally unsuitable for the USN's objective of long range expeditionary warfare. A more appropriate moniker for Type 041 style submarines would be SSE(n), where E is for electric, or SSN(b), for battery. The prime mover on these boatsis battery-electric, and it's peak battery performance exceeds the nuclear output to offer a sprint option. As an incidental bonus, your chinese-speaking audience can exclaim NB for these submarines. I wouldn't straight up give the sensor edge to the conventional SSN; the nuclear-electric boat may have less hull for it's sonar suite, but the lower self-noise also offers advantages for passive detection, unless the SSN is spooling out it's towed array, at which point their speed advantage disappears. Similarly, the food-endurance really depends on the crew size. If the PLAN has taken full advantage of low-maintenance SMR (small modular reactor) technology, it's conceivable the crew to hull ratio could approach or even exceed the Soryu class, at which point you could conceivably out-endurance conventional SSNs.
@Moeflyer6213
@Moeflyer6213 5 ай бұрын
China ”You wanna play wolfpack tactics and unrestricted submarine warfare against me? Here is my answer!“
@fadinakhle8101
@fadinakhle8101 5 ай бұрын
Hello everyone, I have question, for the submarine to be ultra quiet it has to run on electric power, and to recharge the batteries you have to turn on the nuclear reactor, but what do you do when your batteries are full and you have to run on electric power again, since it is not easy to turn off the nuclear reactor when it is on. Something is off here.
@dongwang-zc6xd
@dongwang-zc6xd 2 ай бұрын
朋友,041是小堆核潜艇,这个和真正的核潜艇不一样,中国国内很多博主介绍过,具体技术怎么实现的,那要问工程师
@Null-o7j
@Null-o7j 5 ай бұрын
Bro please don't use these AI generated photos. This is what those low quality AI voiceover spam channels use and it kills the credibility of this channel. I hope you will seriously take my comment into consideration.
@coreyjblakey
@coreyjblakey 5 ай бұрын
@@Null-o7j Preach brother
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
It's better than using USN pictures and video clips when talking aboot the PlaN. Copy this - Copy that
@rickfeng4466
@rickfeng4466 5 ай бұрын
13:20 Which country's flag is on the far right? I've never seen that flag before.
@Dordordord
@Dordordord 5 ай бұрын
Thats PLAN flag, not national flag
@LIONIQ-foxhound
@LIONIQ-foxhound 5 ай бұрын
Very Brief And Summarize Ideas: I think they could fire the YJ18 anti ship cruise missiles, maybe developing a smaller size version for this class of submarines, frigates and missiles boats and even air and ground launched versions... on the other hand I think one of the the main threats for PLA naval forces operating between the Chinese mainland (with the exception of the shallow waters of taiwan straight) and the first chain of islands is the attack submarines either nuclear powered attacks submarines of what is temporarily called the united states of america or the conventionally powered submarines of its allies in the Indo-Pacific region all have very robust and advanced submarines industry which will be played as force multipliers assets for navy of what is temporarily called the united states, forcing the our Chinese friends naval forces to direct a considerable resources (combat assets and combat support assets) to chasing and containing those mostly electro- AIP submarines, which those types of submarines powered by new type of hybrid propulsion systems could be more useful at strategical and operational and tactical levels, with its small size easy to mass produced, and will not required a large number of crew thus it can be deployed in larger number to execute various types of offensive and defensive missions... I think this submarine can benefit from several factors to operate over long distances outside its expected areas of activity, Some of these factors are: 1- Its small size for reducing the overall footprints and facilities the maneuverability... 2- reducing the acoustic signature as a result of adopting a very quiet propulsion system... 3- the independent propulsion system that gives it the ability to remain underwater continuously... regarding the two expected theaters of operations, the Atlantic Ocean, which is the largest ocean in the world, and the Indian Ocean, these submarines can employ elements of their operational advantages in terms of its small size and quieter propulsion system to work thousands of km away from their bases ( not only limiting or restricting their operational utilization by the coastal zone and green waters although securing those are the priority at least in the early stages of any expected war with what is temporarily called the united states of america and it's allies, considering the ww2 submarines with similar or even much less displacements operated few thousand kms from its bases), infiltrating the hydrophone systems networks installed across all oceans beds and seabeds, those submarines can employ the complex topography of the seabed to carry out a sets of different operations within the strategy of hybrid & asymmetrical warfare which includes but not limited to setting up ambushes for enemy naval assets either submarines, surface combat and logistics vessels, planting mines and underwater explosive devices, launching naval drones, and infiltrating opponents seaports, launching cruise missiles (especially YJ18) against enemy ground target's for example assets deployed across the shores seaports and naval shipyards, naval bases, oil terminals, and oil storage sites....etc, theoretically a swarms from those submarines could sneak to 500 km from its intended target's and launch a salvos of those hypersonic missiles, although its slower process compared with cruise missiles fired from vertical launched systems, but worth noting here two things: 1- each submarine is equipped with four or six launching tubes and it could launch torpedoes from both sides... 2- I think those tube launched cruise missiles could enhance the stealthiness of the launching submarine because the missile should be fired horizontally allowing the missile to travel vertically underwater for distance before reaching the surface and flying in the sky, I think those distance could help concealing the launching submarine, compared with vertically launched cruise missiles...
@sihangshao8236
@sihangshao8236 5 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard a accent like his, its like a mixture of southern Chinese and Jamaican 😊
@tonysia6474
@tonysia6474 5 ай бұрын
I'm expecting China will have 100 - 300 this type submarines for replacement of its conventional submarines in the near future.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
Oh Please tell me the next winning Lottery numbers
@DorJinTan
@DorJinTan 5 ай бұрын
Good idea!
@sergio7248
@sergio7248 5 ай бұрын
I just recently discovered the channel. I find the content great. But because it focuses on China, it seems to attract a lot of dictatorship loving people, based on the comment section. Makes me wonder if ENI is ok with that or perceives it as such.
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 5 ай бұрын
Russians - once - considered and I think even tried similar setup for Kilo class (proj. 877 ) submarine. Also: still this could power water desalination using waste heat and maybe oxygen generation, yielding greater endurance (at expense of mobility). Even argumenting tanks is huge thing. And if reactor is cooled by natural circulation.... remember SNAP-10 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNAP-10A - look at size, offering 30 kW of thermal power ( so 10 kWe is comfortably reached ) and in submarine and in that power level, whole hull can act as radiator without dedicated cooling assembly (of course, heat exchnager to keep radioactive coolant contained is needed ). And if China would use more exotic cooling (bismut? lead?), they probably could go into 100kWt in similarily sized package.
@endeend1
@endeend1 5 ай бұрын
Those AI generated photos of the 041 dont make sense. Even though they're fictional images the fact they show tons of grooves, dips, and other non-smooth surfaces makes no sense as all of that will create drag underwater, especially on the bow, and drag means sound which makes no sense for a sub design.
@scottlangley5596
@scottlangley5596 Ай бұрын
Well to my non-engineer and low level of technical knowledge in this area ears this sounds like a good idea maybe? I havent really thought it through in a methodical manner, but sure. My question is if it has actually been started and if so how far along it is. We dont know if this is juat an idea right.
@twlamSG
@twlamSG 5 ай бұрын
Eh.. The nuclear power plant does not shutdown. So it will continue to generate electricity needed for propulsion. As such, for normal cruising the sterling engine will power the engines directly and at the same time charge the batteries. The only time the quiet sterling engines are turned off should be during total silence period. There is no reason to turn off the nuclear power plant and run solely on battery at all time.
@zomgneedaname
@zomgneedaname 5 ай бұрын
Now this, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call a game changer
@GuangzhouBen
@GuangzhouBen 4 ай бұрын
低辐射,难道是装上钍基反应堆?核动力+斯特林发动机的增程式电动潜艇,再加上无轴泵推,想想都刺激,艇员的鼾声是最大噪声源
@MrsEAGLE-kp2wx
@MrsEAGLE-kp2wx 5 ай бұрын
Next level 😱😰
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
@belaszakall1462
@belaszakall1462 5 ай бұрын
Vivát China !!!
@williamgoode9114
@williamgoode9114 5 ай бұрын
Time for AUKUS to give up - and save us lots of money !
@rifgodinho
@rifgodinho 5 ай бұрын
In a certain moment during the video is said that this kind of SSKN can't be used primaryly against an US navy's task force. How many time will be necessary to PLAN develop a hypersonic cruise missile with a range of, for example, 200km, that can be launched from a torpedo tube of 533mm? If these new subs will be as stealth as said, they could approximate to the task force, launch a salvo of four missiles and run away. A wolf pack of them will be a tremendous peril...
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Well there is research about a sub-launched YJ-21, but it seems to be limited to VLS and we don't know how far has it advanced beyond a conceptual stage.
@jorual12
@jorual12 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Congratulations.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@MrStevemur
@MrStevemur 5 ай бұрын
Like other commenters I kept wondering why it would have a crew. Humans need lots of space, lots of food and water and waste disposal and oxygen. Of course we're wonderful creatures but do we really add enough to be worth carrying around?
@pacolilzz515
@pacolilzz515 4 ай бұрын
From what I heard it's about 4000 tons not 2500 tons.
@jayscott7152
@jayscott7152 5 ай бұрын
Looks like a laundry Mat, can I get my laundry done in there.
@ycplum7062
@ycplum7062 5 ай бұрын
I am curious as to its top sustainable speed. I suspect it is limited by the Stirling engine, which is not know to be very powerful. Extremely efficient and quiet, but bulky and not powerful. Also, what is the weapons loadout. If it has limited food stores and weapons loads, I am not sure it can patrol the Malacca Straits or the 2nd Island Chain. I can raid out that far, but I am not sure it can patrol that far out. Performance-wise, it is definitely a step above a diesel-electric submarine. Whether it is cost effective is another matter. I wonder if this is just a technical test bed and the actual design will be larger.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
The tactical speed should be limited more by the electric motor, as the Stirling is intended to recharge batteries (unlike in a typical AIP setup). Transit speed should be faster than diesel-electric boats though, given the ability to keep recharging submerged. Weapons loadout, as I said, is probably limited to torpedo tubes and associated cruise missiles (but we don't know). Given a relatively small weapons loadout, presumably it can carry enough food to patrol up to 2IC, if not as long as SSNs.
@ycplum7062
@ycplum7062 5 ай бұрын
@@EurasiaNaval Yes, sprint speed can be high. I was thinking of sustained speed underwater. At that point, it is dependent on how fast the stirling engine and convert the heat generated by the nuclear plant to electricity. That would be proportional to the size of teh stirling engine, which has a low energy conversion density. And yes, I am confident this system is better than diesel-electric in pretty much all areas of performance. Performance-wise, it is somewhere between a diesel-electric and a traditional nuclear sub. I think this system would work better for a ballistic missile sub.
@watb8689
@watb8689 5 ай бұрын
it is unmanned, china's stirling engine has less moving parts
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
Less moving parts than what Sterling engine ?
@tonypeng1815
@tonypeng1815 5 ай бұрын
Lower number of crew should be an advantage thus the color should be green not red
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 5 ай бұрын
Im wondering in the future a solid state nuclear reactor with Peltier generators can power a submarine with zero noise
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 5 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter RTGs are inefficient because they run in a vacuum and have to rely on boltzmann radiators to provide a thermal gradiant. In an ocean you'd have a much easier time radiating heat out so you could have a much bigger reactor with no moving parts
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 Kinda sorta a 1/4 of truth in that comment. RTG's do run on temperature differences. What mechanism is used to generate the heat in RTG's ?
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 5 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter radiactive decay, Rather than neutron induced fission
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 Yeap. You are correct. Remember that all the math and design work has been studied and completed for many years. Look up how much heat is produced from decay by itself. You will find it stated in Watts.
@scottlangley5596
@scottlangley5596 Ай бұрын
Well to my non-engineer and low level of technical knowledge in this area ears this sounds like a good idea maybe? I havent really thought it through in a methodical manner, but sure. My question is if it has actually been started and if so how far along it is. We dont know if this is juat an idea right. And what is the ever-loving point of such a machine?? No VLS, so torpedo only sounds like a waste of resources, but what do i know.
@EthanX1ao
@EthanX1ao 5 ай бұрын
Small suggestion: It's a little less serious to use AI drawings in a military video. There are so many great submarine photos on the internet
@vdotme
@vdotme 5 ай бұрын
The quality of information makes a military video not the graphics.
@mikestone2740
@mikestone2740 4 ай бұрын
Who did they copy it from ?
@douginorlando6260
@douginorlando6260 5 ай бұрын
And an Undersea recharging station for submerged conventional subs & drones
@christophmahler
@christophmahler 5 ай бұрын
Anti-Prompt: fishes--- ... The question is: how many units until 2030 when US modernization was supposed to kick off around 2035 ?...
@LuobingSong
@LuobingSong 5 ай бұрын
1000 submarine.... amazing actually, from my view, sskn will replace the most of conventional submarine actually, but will not be something like wolf pack of WWII, i will estimate the number will be at most 80 the concept of sskn is a development of conventional submarine, not a replacement of nuclear submarine. nuclear submarine can run at top speed for days, and play a key role in attack mission, but sskn mostly will not reach 15 knots with out diesel engine, and mostly stay in key area and play role of defense the reason why American Navy do not develop any kind of ssk is that American navy do not expect meeting a long march fleet for attacking over ocean, there is no actually defense mission of American navy so they don't need it, but Soviet Navy is actually facing nato navy at coastline, defensive mission make Soviet Navy always owes a large ssk fleet since 1930s for defense mission in eastern asia, and within second Island chains, Chinese will actually need to deploy ssk in several well known area, the guam, japan Philippines coastal area, Indonesia coastal area, and at most Australia coastal area, there is actually no more room for sskn, and you will not expect sskn cross the ocean, that thing is too slow which means lower chance to escape from one to friendly area, only ssn can do these task however, mostly the submarines are playing the role of defensive mission, many nations in the world actually have ssk, but hardly do nations need ssn, as they are not going to start a nuclear war and try to destroy enermy fleet at enermy port, the concept of sskn is a big leap forward of the idea of ssk, sskn can stay as long as possible undercover, which means sskn can do much more than ever and the limitations on ssn will also on sskn, so you will not expect German or Japanese navy or even southern nations actually got their sskn, so the only will get the profit of sskn will be China, Russia, and probably northern Korea, and these are only country in the world actually say no to America and have their ability to say no to America, this is the bad news for western Navy
@Ysq21aCk_user
@Ysq21aCk_user 3 ай бұрын
China has the largest, most modern naval force in the world.
@kumbackquatsta
@kumbackquatsta 5 ай бұрын
like undersea stealth fighter jets
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
@davidk6269
@davidk6269 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you!
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 5 ай бұрын
Thank you too!
@tyme5837
@tyme5837 Ай бұрын
good idea
@paulfollo8172
@paulfollo8172 5 ай бұрын
Sterling engine work with pistons and make noise.
@kumbackquatsta
@kumbackquatsta 5 ай бұрын
add tube launched anti ship cruise missiles
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
Oh Oh and add a few unicorn shit launchers
@kumbackquatsta
@kumbackquatsta 5 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter that would be india
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
@@kumbackquatstalol 👍
@fernandofernandito3055
@fernandofernandito3055 5 ай бұрын
Fully electrical Mini subs power by electrica lmotor for propulsion...using nuclear systems to recharge the lithium battery 🔋to infinite cycles...😮
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
Liar !!! Stop spreading mis-information.. The submarine is going to be a perpetual motion machine.
@2seconds992
@2seconds992 5 ай бұрын
But too slow to be a hunter-killer? A hunter of CIVILIAN ships? Nuclear weapons?? (stealth is important with these). Also: future bases in the INDIAN & Pacific oceans in the PLA plans...
@adozub3366
@adozub3366 5 ай бұрын
Americans 🇺🇸 are not happy about this 🤣🤣
@Foquro
@Foquro 5 ай бұрын
Can you use real pictures of whatever you talk about? For me these AI generated pictures feel very low quality but it is nice that you clarify it ate the start
@myyoutubehandle895
@myyoutubehandle895 5 ай бұрын
Brother, please try to make the videos within 10 minutes. Your videos are informative. But if it's more than 10 minutes, more people will loose interest. Thank you ❤.
@davu5637
@davu5637 4 ай бұрын
Take a bow to your new world leader China!
@yojimbo3681
@yojimbo3681 5 ай бұрын
Didn't China want to build nuclear powered torpedoes? Is this what it's evolved into?
@wenbo595
@wenbo595 5 ай бұрын
There will be 1000 of these
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
NO ! liar There is going to be 2,621 of these.. Stop spreading mis-information
@mariosamper8186
@mariosamper8186 5 ай бұрын
a new Chinese submarine where everything is secret, here comes this video telling details of the submarine lol what was the source of this video please
@vinnievalentine421
@vinnievalentine421 2 ай бұрын
The Poseidon, Russian unmanned submarine
@mikestone2740
@mikestone2740 4 ай бұрын
The owner of this post is Chinese. They haven't been a modern war.never won any war. Let's just have peace
@TheManInTheRing
@TheManInTheRing 2 ай бұрын
The Temu Navy. Brb gotta steal more american technology
@chanwu5615
@chanwu5615 5 ай бұрын
這是我們的灣道大超車, 在這領域,美國還是在追趕. 我們已經拋離山姆大叔了
@marcodelguerra
@marcodelguerra 5 ай бұрын
Aren't you forgetting hypersonic missiles??? You don't need a lot of them to attack an aircraft carrier!
@rifgodinho
@rifgodinho 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. A wolf pack, 10 subs, e.g., six hypersonic missiles per sub, and say good bye to the carrier...
@marcodelguerra
@marcodelguerra 5 ай бұрын
@@rifgodinho You don't need 10 subs, case in point …the Malvinas war...one Super Étendard, one Exocet and the Argentinians weren't even properly trained on how to use the missile. So do the math ...2 subs, opposite directions, 2 supersonic P 800 each...one USS NIMITZ to the bottom of the ocean…after that US will cry mama and runway!
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
Also the space aliens.. Don't forget aboot the space aliens
@marcodelguerra
@marcodelguerra 5 ай бұрын
@@RectalRooter ABOOT????
@WhyyouSodesperate
@WhyyouSodesperate 5 ай бұрын
​@@marcodelguerraand with cost of what? Lose FALKLAND and your ARA GENERAL BELGRANO 😂😂😂😂 Well played CABEZITA NEGRA well played 😂😂😂
@TheOmildlyOinformed
@TheOmildlyOinformed 2 ай бұрын
Is this the one that just fucking sunk on the dock?
@俞恩理
@俞恩理 5 ай бұрын
I could use a civilian version of this.
@RectalRooter
@RectalRooter 5 ай бұрын
No information has been released, but I will tell you what my crystal ball says everything aboot this submarine. You can totally trust my crystal ball because my brothers cousins city mayor's leprechaun friend made a youtube video aboot the 13 crystal skulls power
@TheOtakuPrince
@TheOtakuPrince 5 ай бұрын
Nuclear powered wolfpacks and also small enough to travel in shallow waters.
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts 5 ай бұрын
Like American mini subs.
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