China Tools Ep. 30 Parallel guide system Insane low price!

[@DaveCSX]

As a carpenter living in China, I can agree with pretty much all of your videos about the items you review. Thanks for sharing.

[@thegxpguy]

The fact that you show us imperial users compassion by including the necessary tools we would use is 10/10 thanks you sir

[@terrmaso]

Grabbed both the 90 and 45 engineers squares after your review. Easily the most beneficial and used tools in my workshop. I verify almost everything with them. The wide, flat base makes blade alignment effortless. I use these to verify any new tools I bring into my shop. As always, thank you for your honest opinion. I will continue to use your knowledge and experience to make my shop and projects better.

[@Khalid.Al-Bahi]

I bought this system made by Veiko based on your recommendation from Banggood. The kit I got is improved with the guides starting from 200mm and two setup marks at 295 & 371mm and side scales zeroed at the 371mm mark for cuts less than 275mm wide. All in all, it was a great recommendation and I'm here to thank you Dennis for these thorough reviews that save us money and frustration.

[@bjrnulstrup5420]

Are they worth buying? they look more Clewer than the festool onel for small rips

[@neflardio]

Regarding the rail guide ratcheting clamps, I recently purchased the drillpro version and noticed that they also have improved their design. They now have rubber protection and a screw at the end.

[@ChrisInMarshfield]

Hi Dennis! You will be happy to know that I ordered and received the parallel guide for track saws that you reviewed and they have fixed all the shortcomings that you noted about the product. The top scales are now correct and accurate (and have the reference arrows for stop guide placement) and they have added a side scale to the rails as well. I like to think that they are listening to your reviews and making adjustments! Thank you for the recommendation! I have spent a lot of money recently! ;^)

[@martink7777]

Is the calibration consistent between regular and narrow cuts? For me it’s 1mm off - when I calibrate one, the other is off by this amount. I suppose the plastic tip is a little too long. Otherwise it’s perfect.

[@ChrisInMarshfield]

@@martink7777 - Great question. I have only done wider cuts. I'll certainly give it a second look.

[@mkbcoolman]

Wow! I didn't know this channel even existed, but I'm just blown away by the attention. It's really helpful info to a serious hobby guy like myself. I've been doing this long enough that I've embraced the 'buy the best tool you can afford' mentality and have quite a collection of quality tools. But I still like to find a deal. Like that cabinet drill guide...I bought a similar model off of Amazon a while back when I was remodeling my kitchen. Mine was very well constructed aluminum like the one your demonstrated, but no case. I think I paid $25 at the time, and it was at least 2x better than the 'professional' guides I'd picked up from Rockler. I even loaded it to a buddy of mine who was building some new shop furniture, and he was absolutely blown away by the quality and function. So those deals are out there, but I'm glad to have a guy like you out there testing things so I don't have to work through trial and error finding the 'best' cheap tool.

[@nmancini]

You have a very logical and fair way of evaluating these different tools. Thanks Dennis I always look forward to seeing your next videos

[@martink7777]

The current Fonson Upgraded parallel guide system from Banggood has all criticized points corrected (scale also on the side, main scale starting around 22cm and so on). I just got it for 95€, shipping from CZ to Germany only took 3 days. It’s perfect, only the rods (or the tips) are 1mm too long, making the calibration inconsistent between normal and narrow cuts. It works great with my Makita track saw and rails.

[@HookedonWood]

Thanks for your reaction

[@glamajamma]

Hoi from Den Haag. I also purchased the parallel guide system. It arrived days before you made this video. I immediately realized the issue. I zeroed it with a 3.5cm offset. which is the furthest I could bolt the track adapters. I don't think I will be cutting closer than that anyway but I can make quick adjustments if I ever do. so if I leave the narrow rod adapters in I can get accurate repeatable cuts from 3,5 to around 100 cm. By the way, they just released upgraded rails for preorder.

[@MarkSWilliams27]

Denis, I am late commenting here. But I bought the parallel guides for my Makita based on your review. I love them! Love all your videos. Very well presented.

[@andrewsmall2718]

Congratulations on 30 episodes of China Tools! Each one very informative. It’s become my ‘go to’ reference for anything I purchase from Banggood. Video production is great too. Thank you Dennis and keep them coming.

[@bobhiggins5773]

Bangood used to be affordable to ship to South Africa now its crazy, example the Veiko 760 mm Ts is R536.56 and shipping is R554.05, pre covid the most I ever paid for shipping was R35 and that was for 5 router bits. Nice videos and well presented thank you Dennis.

[@HookedonWood]

Sorry to hear!

[@petenelson8136]

I just set an alarm for next years 11.11 China Tools sales. I should have my shop up and running by then and I'm sure I'll be needing some new quality tools. Your China Tools series has been excellent and you do an awesome job on reviewing these tools.

[@HookedonWood]

That is a good plan😂😂

[@gregguarino563]

I just received the Banggood Parallel guides. I barely tried them out, but I have noticed a few issues. 1. There are no instructions. I was able to puzzle out how to out the units together, but it was not immediately obvious. 2. There are significant "fit and finish" flaws. A. The "thin rip" rods would not fit through the bored holes in the hinged stops. This was due to metal "flash" where the set screw holes meet the hole for the rod. I had to force the rods through with a mallet, although I guess I could have re-drilled the holes if I had the exact size (likely metric) bit. B. Same thing with the T bolts that hold the stops to the tracks. Bits of flash in the holes prevented the bolts from going through. C. The knurled nuts that secure the stops in place would not easily thread onto the bolts. The tips of the bolts were imperfectly formed. I suggest once you get them threaded you never remove them. 3. The biggest problem (so far) was that one of the units could not be inserted into the (Makita) track slot unless the flat-head screws that attach the guide to the rail-inset piece were loosened. I'm talking about the flat-head phillips screws, not the allen-head set screws that are meant to fix the position of the guide in the track. This would have meant loosening both the phillips and allen screws every time I needed to move the parallel guide in the track. I "fixed" this by adding a strip of blue tape between the piece that slides in the track and the "T" shaped bracket that attaches that piece to the guide. I have not tried the "thin-rip" function yet.

[@barryspiers6956]

Just received mine and set it up, as others have said they have fixed all the issues you highlighted so they are listening to you! Might be worth doing a quick follow up vid if you feel inclined. For info to others - The London Craftsman on KZbin has a couple of vids on how to build these and how to calibrate the guides.

[@jeanlucvassort6411]

Thanks for those reviews.(nice analysis and video edition) I have received the parallel guide mid dec 21 : 1st impression is correct manufacturing, manual of use or assembly still missing. I notice that there is - now - a 280 mm scale on the side starting at 200 mm from the attachement t the rail. Now it is time to test & practice. It sounds not so easy to set an accurate dimension, an index should be implemented, parallax error possible. Nevertheless the price is really much better than other systems so we have to find our way to use this Veiko product. Correction: I found a video on WP guide system issued by Graham workshop who explain very well the calibration process. I tested it, perfect. So this tool seems to be excellent for repetitive similar cuts. Thanks again for your advises, between you and Graham, all is now clear.

[@johnshefford692]

The parallel guides are on sale right now for £54 delivered. Since you made the video graduation markings have been added yo the sides so you can see easier. I dont make repeatable cuts very often with my track saw as i have access to a panel saw but for the price I thought it was worth a gamble and I cant fault them

[@BuddyCasino]

They now sell an upgraded version of the parallel guide system with calibration marks and rulers on the side for the thin cuts. Haven't tested it yet.

[@ivansusic562]

Even when on discount, Veiko table clamps are about 5usd cheaper than Bessey. And still never know if customs will charge. I see it is a quality product, but you know what I mean.

[@Tobsen660]

The parallel system got much better. No math needed and it has a separate reading on the side for narrow cuts. I just bought it for 80euros

[@peterfoale203]

Good reviews as always. Appreciate the point about being an advert for the products, but also thanks for the notice on the discounts. Thanks again for a great series

[@cgall4444]

FchinaJoe

[@DucPhan20]

the new version has numbers on the side now so you don't have to add tape anymore. Still cost $110 but with shipping and insurance, it was $137.05 shipped to Texas

[@jimatkins7914]

Good reviews. With the rail clamps it would have been good to show how they work with track saw rails since that is their primary purpose.

[@quadcamera]

I bought these for my tracksaw tracks and they don't fit. They are 0.100" wider than the festool clamp. I checked these clamps in both the festool and Milwaukee rails

[@JVJANKOWSKI]

Dennis -- I enjoy your reviews and have purchased some of the items you suggested from Banggood. One of the last orders for the Veiko BIG T-rulers which I ordered on the 11.11 sale has not even shipped yet. Now they tell me that they can only ship via Ocean shipping even though they still indicated Express shipping to the US on the website. And they want me to cancel the order or agree to 2 to 3 more months before I receive the three T rulers I ordered. They were unwilling to make any price or shipping concession for my time. The most I could get out of them was 500 BG points. Just wanted you and your followers to know that it looks like Banggood service is going down. Almost looks like seller remorse for selling the item at the 11.11 sale price.

[@chrisr8996]

A heads up Veiko clamp quality, sadly that seems to have crashed down hard since your review (first Veiko purchase in years that didn't fulfill my expectation)! Got eight clamps when they were on offer a few months back (50% price to the Bessey) but I wouldn't buy them again: first the red paint chipped - don't mind the cosmetics, but it tells a tale. The next stop was rust on the exposed parts - not ideal. The fact that a ratcheting mechanism tends to slip when engaging initially makes them a bit fiddly, but still: not good, not terrible. But what IS terrible: during a glue up none of them would clamp! Turns out all of their 90° angles had turned into a 110° angle the moment full pressure was applied - the steel is SO soft that they simply caved in. I managed to bend them back in shape one-by-one but I can only use them for e.g. holding down a work piece when sanding, cutting, etc. but they're completely unuseable for glue ups or anything requiring full force.

[@crux3145]

Banggood needs to include you in product development!

[@timkelly6660]

Hi Dennis, I love your reviews and truly appreciate the time it must take to complete them. I purchased these guides based on your recommendation and wanted you to know that they arrived with the bar that goes inside the track improperly manufactured. The holes were skewed by 4mm from end to end and the clamping bolts that go inside the rail to lock the position would not go into the counterbores. Worst of all, Banggood has been banging me good by slow walking assistance. Just be careful who you choose to put your name next to.....

[@liamboland9650]

I've got this exact same problem.

[@timkelly6660]

@@liamboland9650 Well at least the offered me $18 credit to which I replied how will $18 make this tool work properly? Send me the part or send me a new one.

[@timkelly6660]

@@liamboland9650 I went after them a bit harder and they are going to send the top t-connectors and the rails out expedited.

[@liamboland9650]

Thanks for keeping me updated.They are messing me about.This whole experience has put me off using banggood again ive spent a lot of money with them over past few years. They keep stalling asking for videos of the problem ect, the last update they asked me if i wanted to get it repaired locally and they would cover the cost if it wasnt too much, ive told them either send me a replacement part, or the complete product.

[@timkelly6660]

@@liamboland9650 I had the exact same interaction. here is the video I sent if you want to link them to it so you don't have to make one kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3S0Y357bNyfmLM . I said that a local shop would be 80-100/hr with 1/2 hr minimum. The came back with replacing the parts.

[@davidmaes3253]

With the screw you can sircumvent the problem from getting them in to the dog holes. Just take out the screw, remove the handle, insert the shaft from under the table top, put the handle and screw back on, done. No matter how thick your table top is. All you need is enough room under the table to be able to insert the shaft. En in het nederlands is dat hetzelfde ;-)

[@ex-bahamutgamer8381]

Lot of the tools you were showing in ya video are Woodpecker tools design Which China has this multiple system of factories. The parent company gives them the design to these companies then spread it out to point it is pirate copy without being pirating. However, parent don't get any money for it, from non pirates factories, but it goes back to above the ladder factories. Very crafty system China is allowing. That is why it a hit-and-miss with the clones though.

[@SimonPollock]

Popping back to say thanks, added many of your faves (oddly all tools I've been holding out buying because $$$ here in Aus) ..and while BG might take a while to get them to me, your reviews were really what sealed the deal - thanks.

[@nickblumert3865]

Bought 5 items through your links, that’s for awesome videos.

[@denios36]

Another great video! These recommendations can greatly enhance any workshop, and take workflow to a new level, thanks for sharing!

[@Raul28153]

do the produce any of these t rulers in imperial or inch standard with increments in thousandths of an inch

[@quadcamera]

Dennis, I enjoy your videos and your precision. Unfortunately, these track saw rail clamps do not fit and track saw tracks that i know of. Not the festool or the Milwaukee. Powertec and Makita won't work either as they have similar dimensions to the festool. The base of the veiko (Enjoywood) clamps are 0.100" wider than the festool clamp. 0.555" vs. 0.455" They don't even come close to fitting the festool track. Plus, these clamps are sloppy compared to the Festool or the MicroJig ratcheting clamps. Please revisit these clamps!

[@jeroenderaat9815]

Thank you Dennis for your clear video. You should have a look at the TSO Parallel guide system; in combination with their square, this should be a bless.

[@andreasbentz6106]

Hey Dennis! Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately I missed the 11.11 event, but Black Friday is still to come. A suggestion to your calibration of the parallel guide system: before fastening the ruler screws, apply some locktite thread locker. This keeps the screws from loosening through vibration. Thanks again! Andreas

[@peterjf7723]

I have only just found this channel. Excellent informative reviews of useful products. I am setting up a new workshop and expect to be ordering soon if I can't find locally.

[@hopkinshome3799]

Good reviews, however I’m not sure how people supplied feedback in the comment section so quickly. I ordered a number of the tools, some came within 3 weeks, 1 tool took 5 weeks and I’m still waiting for another tool I ordered 2 months ago.

[@stevengreen4316]

Dennis im a banggood punter simply becsuse if it does the same job as something that cost 5 times more. What do you do. You mention if you get one thats not true there are 4..6 screws and an allen key. Well what do i do? Twist them all, 2 in 1 direction or throw it at the wall and tighten them all up again. Give us a clue Dennis im new to the game.

[@marcelbirkhoff1516]

Op jouw aanbeveling heb ik Veiko rail guide clamps besteld maar kreeg Enjoywood clamps toegestuurd van een zeer bedenkelijk niveau. Ik heb de clamp gebruikt op mijn Festool MFT 3 en al bij 1 poging was de haak al zover verbogen dat deze niet meer bruikbaar. Heb gereclameerd en wil de 4 stuks retour sturen en heb tevens nieuwe besteld van Bessey. Viel echt tegen had het niet verwacht, ik heb al veel producten van Veiko en die voldoen prima... mss omdat het geen Veiko product is maar Enjoywood???

[@box0xB9]

Yes - same price for the upgraded version and the comments there confirm that the measurement markings have been updated, and also added to the side.

[@mckentycarpentry4665]

Excellent reviews, which system do you typically prefer? the parallel guides or the rail guide squares?

[@stevevender1154]

Very thorough reviews. I’d love to see a review of tools that are not copies of existing products.

[@excursioniamo]

Bellissimo video Michele! Hai messo alla frusta la stellatura della tua ottica Canon! 🔝

[@angebral]

Hi Dennis, the rails are coming now with side marks in mm

[@CaptainofmyShed]

Another excellent video Dennis. Congrats on your well deserved KZbin success!

[@chidrummer1]

Think its funny that you're reviewing woodworking products from China, but in your video your personally using festool and can see bessey clamps behind you. And thought I also saw some woodpecker products.

[@robertneely5148]

Great reviews! I have ordered the parallel guide at such a good price (using your link). And thanks so much for the extra guidance on setup for this - it's a shame they do not include instructions with the guide itself. A few more people are doing Banggood reviews now but yours are by far the most useful, especially for the high end (and therefore higher price) tools.

[@haknys]

Wow, this channel is amazing. So much value, and great presentation. Thanks!

[@carlnewton1126]

I see they have brought out an updated version of the parallel guide, can you tell us if it’s better than the one you reviewed?

[@GR-ui9uc]

Great content as usual, but I have to disagree with the all 5 star scoring card for the Veiko 760mm t ruler. I have it since September and if you assemble it without a known reference square it won't be accurate. You can adjust it, that's true, however it also means that it can be easily de-adjusted without noticing. I would suggest 6 screws for fixing and a bit larger, fuller t head just like the Drillpro version. Every time I use it I have to check if its square, and so far it wasn't square just once, but that's already once too many.

[@chrisohanlon69]

How often does this guy post videos? They're really good, glad I found it. What is he, Dutch?

[@HiveMind2024]

What dimensions is your cleat wall? It is the best I have seen.

[@BrianGalyer]

Hello Dennis, I have looked every where for - measuring rulers aluminium alloy imperial. All that comes up are T squares etc. perhaps you can come up with a solution?

[@soundman127]

Can anyone confirm if the parallel guide will work with DeWalt rails? There's conflicting answers at the Bangood site! Keep up the great work Dennis, I really appreciate the level of perfection in your woodwork, reviews and video production.

[@thethirdman225]

14:00 It’s only upside down for you. You may not like it but it’s essential for left handed people like me.

[@1QKGLH]

Is there a cheap Chinese table saw rip fence that's worth getting?

[@robertoassi2871]

Great Video Dennis! Thank you for your hard work!

[@danielpatterson864]

Love the channel! Soooo...I've just noticed Hongdui have released some 'Clear Cut Stock Guides'; similar to the Jessem. Can you PLEEEAAASE review these!! The shipping alone costs a fortune for Jessem as they aren't sold here in Australia. Appreciate your great reviews!

[@lucaszanin38]

for all your videos THANK YOU, now is the time for me to choose my Christmas gifts ^^

[@jeffreytendahal2159]

the parallel guide system at 6:30 i still need to have tools to make square cuts? or this will do?

[@NotJustSawdust]

Nice, but it probably would never reach my workshop. The guide system is just above 100 euro incl shipping, that means import tax is about 55 euro + VAT over the import tax + handling costs... a year ago this would be interested. Not every country has the same rules as The Netherlands, not even when they are in the EU. In our case, it would probably "get lost" and be on a market place a few weeks later. importing from outside the EU became almost impossible and very tricky.

[@alvarobustamantemorales1205]

Hi! Excellent video! Do you know if the parallel guide will fit in the Makita rail?

[@seperfall]

hey Dennis, nice video again as always! is was wondering if you could review some pipe clamps or other serre-joint like clamping devices from china 😉 thanks again

[@JN2023]

Do you review the corner chisel in any of the episodes?

[@lukasmatzinger]

Thanks for the video Dennis, very helpful! Like a lot of other people I would also be interested in a follow up, regarding the updated version of the guides that should solve the issues you are having with the system. Maybe as short segment of another review video? Thanks from Austria! Lukas

[@TheAlogoc]

In which episode do you review router lift?

[@markshaneh]

Have you reviewed the Viking Arm ?

[@marcelbouwman5182]

Ik heb die parallel guides net besteld, ze hebben het geupgrade met calibratie merktekens en ook de cm's aangepast zodat je geen 20cm meer hoeft bij te tellen. 5 dagen levertijd vanuit Tsechië, ben benieuwd.

[@sekainiheiwa3650]

how you can keep your tools like they are brand new ?

[@andrewknots]

Thanks Denis, another great review

[@valman76]

Thanks for this amazing video! RESPECT!

[@MichaelBaester]

This is a warning to anyone purchasing Bang good wood working items. I purchased a large order of wood working tools and two of the items have quality issues (i.e. do not work or are manufactured incorrectly). I have been going back and forth with them to try and have them refund or do not work. They are actively trying to give me the run around and telling me I need to pay for return shipping. If your item has any issues, be very wary. I have spent weeks going back and forth with their customer support and refuse to honor their own warranty. On top of that, items were delayed shipping by a month, even though I paid for expedited shipping. I would not buy again.

[@LQ-gaming]

gunna go broke if i watch more of these videos !

[@AlanBem]

You should try out & review Veiko’s corner squares

[@markcancio8455]

Hi Dennis. I would like to know where I can buy your CLAMP measuring Load cell?

[@JohnKrakatoa]

thanks for the reviews and links, subscribed.

[@milandjordjevic5949]

Thank you Dennis for the Video . Bangood Woodwork tools are very good .

[@TheZimmann]

Another Great Video! I love what you do. Keep up the good work!!

[@maxrodriguez2031]

How long can you last without food??

[@whoDatBeDare]

Big Fan! Great reviews.

[@spkendrick]

Will the parallel guide system work with the kreg jig track saw system?

[@miljac5084]

Excellent channel, plenty of useful information, it's definitely my reference source to select and check the woodworking tools. I congratulate on your 30th video and I wish you to continue in a same manner. I am looking forward for many many more! Regarding the parallel guide, I have just noticed that two versions have been offered in a shop now. The first one I think is the one reviewed in a video. The second one, available for preordering only, is an upgraded version, I suppose. Unfortunately, the photos for the upgraded version are not clear enough and the description is lacking an upgrade notice, so it's hard to understand what has really been upgraded. I think that the two lacking marks on the scale can now be seen, that's good! Also, I think it's a new font and the marks on the scale are thicker now. I doubt that the thicker scale marks could reduce measuring precision. Do you have any more info about the upgraded version? I hope that you will have a chance to present it in one of your next videos.

[@gotoforwoodworkers672]

Very nice selection.

[@grantnelson7717]

Warning: Check your holes! I bought the 400mm T-square, and only after a while did I find out that the holes where drilled every 1/16 of an inch, and not every millimter... thus it is totally useless. I just happened that the hole for 300mm was pretty close, so I did not notice until I wanted to drill some holes at 330mm... so here I am, a few months after getting it, trying to have Banggood send a good replacement...

[@grantnelson7717]

Update: I was told all is OK, even if they have a picture of 6.4 holes per mm. I tried again, with edited photos with numbers, pointers, etc, and now they ask for a video of my use of the product. I can only conclude that there is not a person, but a bot responding, since a video will add absolutly no extra insight into a very very clear problem. So, while the tools can be accurate, if they have a production issue and some are not, do not expect to get your money back... and with the higher prices now, I wonder if Banggood is as interesting as in the past...

[@soyabean4362]

Chinese products are always awsome

[@jameslindberg1273]

Wish the VEIKO measuring tools could have inch measurements

[@CTRCustomWoodworks]

A long shot question on a 2 year old video, but does anyone know if this parallel guide system will work with a Kreg track? Thanks

[@planespeaking]

Is there a router plate I can buy for my hikoki to match this? Been looking through you videos but only incra for triton I saw. Thanks. Great channel!

[@alasdairmackenzie515]

Interesting, as usual, Dennis. Many thanks for posting. I'm off to the Banggood site now...

[@hinduspl]

Wish to see something like that paralel guide but for mafell rail

[@allmywdwrk]

Have you reviewed the Drillpro 2Pack 188/288mm Stainless Steel Handheld Clamp Tools Labor Saving Arm Hand Lifting Tool ?

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic reviews, Dennis! Thanks! 😃 Those dog hole clamps look fantastic! I'm going to get a few! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@abelgerli]

I actually bought the veiko T ruler in 500mm because standard kitchen cabinets are just below 600 mm in inside depth in Germany and mostly Europe. So when you consider to use it inside a existing cabinet this size is better than a longer one. Perfect would be a 550mm version for this reason.

[@jorgesistana7511]

Excuse me Dennis, your videos "are" commercials! Your videos have caused a precipitous drop in my bank account.

[@kotmorkot8654]

Buy it after saw your review by your reference. and received not full pack with scratchs and dents. pack has only 5 rules connectors from 6. also rules has measures starting from 195 mm but in fact flipstops could be sets only from 270mm. leave my comments here only for prevent another customers from buying by this reference((( your review its very good and helpfull

[@HookedonWood]

That doe’s not sound good. Did you contact them already

[@sixpotshot]

Superb reviews. Always. thank you.

[@lifeofavet7057]

Aluminum Alloy Adjustable Punch Locator Cabinet Hardware Woodworking, these are exactly the same from same company on Amazon for $29

[@markkoons7488]

Sorry to have missed the 11.11 sale.