China vs Lithuania: Has China's Aggression Backfired? - TLDR News

[@rappakalja5295]

There's something satisfying in seeing smaller countries having more guts than Western superpowers.

[@SimplyVanis]

They have nothing to loose

[@Snowman_0690]

@@SimplyVanis true they are small insignificant county.

[@SimplyVanis]

@@Snowman_0690 The biggest changes comes from the smallest things... As the video said, this opened a jar of worms and now it's spreading like wildfire.

[@c.augustedupin8860]

@@SimplyVanis keep believing in your own delusion if that makes you happy.

[@c.augustedupin8860]

@Smith Rockford china doesn't give a fuck about what Lithuania does.....

[@justas9624]

I am Lithuanian and have been following the situation closely for many many months, and here are few notes: - Lithuania was the first EU country to donate vaccines to Taiwan (that's how talks about setting up representative offices even began), then Czechia, Slovakia and Poland followed. - Lithuanian president didn't call the policy or the office a mistake, only the name of the office itself. - Ambassador and (withdrawing) diplomatic staff leaving Beijing are relatively unrelated as former was a protest against the office/it's name and latter was because China tried to downgrade the office to "charge d'affaires" and take/not renew the staff's diplomatic cards or something along those lines, and Lithuania was unsure how their diplomatic immunity would work, so they evacuated them due to safety concerns. Also more less of a note, but addition would be that one Lithuanian MP said that the survey was not exactly about Taiwan in particular, but values based policy in general which can be very vague and subjective. As well as EU itself on multiple occasions has said that Lithuania in no way violated one-china policy. And I personally think that a lot of Lithuanians answered that they don't support the policy or didn't answer the survey / had no opinion about it, was because most of them, especially older generation don't know a single thing about Taiwan, where it's at nor what it is or why it's so important. But those who do, especially in younger generation absolutely love this direction we're taking.

[@henryfp]

thank you for the insight!

[@ilerien]

same here in lv most don't know there are 2 chinas i have seen people who think PLC is poland who think taiwan and chinese taipei are 2 different things and so on however great new factories aside ... not much to support here

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

Makes sense

[@陳奕釩-i4c]

Here's an appreciating Taiwanese girl owo I will definitely be buying some of the rum China boycotted!

[@BloodyDepths]

You forgot to mention that the president is just repeating the opinion of the first 20 facebooks posts on his page and that he is openly mocked by a lot of figures, including well known people and politicians.

[@Szpion1]

In my opinion EU should stand firmly behind Lithuania. The EU cannot allow even the smallest member country to be attacked. The EU should formally demand that China withdraw from its actions against Lithuania under threat of severe retaliation. Only then can a solution to this situation be negotiated - probably Lithuania could just change the names of these representative offices and that's it.

[@c.augustedupin8860]

china is not like Russia, thankfully. And China won't back down from the threat of so called EU sanctions....and eu don't have the guts to take any form stand on china

[@sssd3461]

@@c.augustedupin8860 China is just like russia

[@c.augustedupin8860]

@@sssd3461 shut up . you don't know anything about China, China has the economic muscle and it can't be bullied around like Russia .

[@sssd3461]

@@c.augustedupin8860 haha did you see the trade war between USA/china? That was without europe china is dependent on imports and the CCP needs a good economy

[@boopie577]

@@sssd3461 Dupin is a CCP bootlicker, pointless to engage with him

[@SloeJuice]

Part of the reason why Lithuania's public opinion of the policy is low is because the government is failing to communicate to public why they're doing it. I have had a chance to speak to a couple of people who have the negative view of the policy - they're not aware of Taiwan's and China's history and their relations. The media in Lithuania is focusing pretty much only on the economic losses that result due to China's backlash. So your average Lithuanian is not aware of values that motivate government's position & they're mostly aware of economic damage done by the position. Combine all this with the hatred against the government due to Covid restrictions & you get the numbers you see.

[@bardon1384]

on top of that add europes symbolic support towards Lithuania. Lithuanian government in general are horrible communicators

[@HumeanPiano]

Maybe Lithuanians can see through their own politicians and that they are merely using this diplomatic tug of war in order to distract from their failure with Covid, and to pivot to the west for "investment" and debt forgiveness that they owe to the IMF after their overreliance on western backing that caused their stagnation post 2008 and to have one of the highest suicide rates amongst their population, including children? Not everyone wants war with China: nor do Russians with Ukraine, or Americans for a country that they can't point on a map, it's all political fearmongering by the media, and the fact that you think the media isn't already fixated on Sinophobic Chinese rhetoric makes me ponder my own humanity considerably.

[@sinoroman]

lithuania is kinda broken

[@TheBooban]

I think its because there is nothing to explain. They are not anti-China. They sent vaccines and opened an office with Taiwan. So? Nobody has to follow China dictates of what such an office be called. Lithuania just did normal things and China is having a tantrum as usual. F China.

[@hgos7211]

@@TheBooban Pretty sure a good amount of Lithuanian businesses would prefer China's larger market over Taiwan's. They're free to have official relations with Taiwan, just can't be surprised if they're no longer welcome in China, lmao.

[@ottomanosman2463]

As a Turk, I firmly back Lithuania against the aggressive Chinese Empire. Unfortunately, we have a dictator that cares more about his survival rather than caring about our kins that are being jailed in China.

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

How bad is it in Turkey?

[@revantair8497]

@@tomaszzalewski4541 "yes"

[@tonymatic1704]

turkey was going good until you decided that left wing polics is too fair and good and now we need more religion and poverty

[@sinoroman]

terrorists are in jail. you want the region in china to be a dangerous place?

[@LiveFreeOrDieDH]

@@sinoroman Not speaking Mandarin? "Terrorist!" Making a sarcastic comment about the government "Terrorist!" Not bowing before the government flag before going to pray? "Your whole family are terrorists!!!"

[@zigismundus]

Public opinion of this policy in Lithuania is so low, not because of policy itself, but because of COVID restrictions and the government. Currently a lot of people ar angry because of this, so anything related to government is negative for them. So take these polls with a grain of salt, because if not these times, it would look way more different.

[@Villke]

Not first time TLDR misses vital info.

[@tomtex9664]

As a Lithuanian, I agree

[@JCdental]

yeah, the policy was a real headscratcher when it hit the news, definitely were more pertinent thing to do that week

[@sinoroman]

@@Villke tldr is doing it on purpose. they’re painting a picture that they want

[@MeidoInHebun]

How convenient.

[@johannes4123]

As a Norwegian I support the the decision to open an administrative office with Taiwan and wish the Norwegian government would do the same

[@languist]

Vi burde også åpne direkte flyvninger fra Oslo til Taipei. Jeg har vært i både Beijing og Taipei før, og Taipei var mye mer spennende å besøke!

[@LordDim1]

That will never happen I’m afraid. Our governments, be they Labour or conservative, habitually kowtow to Beijing in order to keep the Salmond market open. At least the royal family are boycotting the Beijing Olympics, though under the (obviously only partly true) excuse of “covid restrictions”

[@Alex-pj8nz]

Your government stand up to China before and they gave up a few years later so that’s not going to happen.

[@LordDim1]

@@Alex-pj8nz It wasn’t even our government standing up. The government actively tried to stop the Nobel peace prize committee from giving Liu Xiao Bo the peace prize, but were thankfully ignored

[@carlosandleon]

But that doesn't make any geopolitical sense? It makes sense in a more fluffy unicorn scenario.

[@Kevvu1989]

I think Lithuania did a right thing and I think Estonia and other countries should do same thing.

[@lottavaher]

I am an Estonian and I agree. Although to my knowledge Estonia IS standing up to China. The only place where I could find us apparently stressing the one China principle was Global Times (Chinese run) and Estonian politicians are stressing how it's important to stand up against China and side with Lithuania...

[@pan1ni82]

the entire west should join in. but if only lithuania takes a stand and they lose money from it the rich countries in the european countrys can compestate them while the rest remains earning money

[@Kevvu1989]

@@pan1ni82 True, they should stop trading with China and also boycott olympic games.

[@duyataksis5210]

Russia will soon conquer all these insignificant, tiny "countries". Pissant statelets like Lithuania and Estonia shouldn't even have names.

[@wm4934]

I am Chinese, i also support you to decouple with China, Your country's population is only equivalent to a small city in China, but we still need to send ambassador and establish Embassy. Decouple can save a lot of money for China, so it is a good idea.

[@martinstent5339]

I sometimes daydream that all the important western countries, EU, UK, USA, Australia etc would secretly agree and then simultaneously recognise Taiwan. What would China do? Stop exporting/importing to practically the whole world? I don't think so.

[@TheJoseph0123456789]

I worry that will push China to do even more harsher actions like actually invading Taiwan.

[@anthonylaviale3021]

@@TheJoseph0123456789 The PRC will never invade Taiwan, it's just posturing. Taiwan produces over 50% of the world's semiconductors, and in case of a war, it would go to 0,the Taiwanese might even destroy tbeir own factories. And since semiconductors are very specific, all electronics manufacturing would stop for years. No more phones or laptops, or microwaves, or cars, or modern weapons. Even without Western reaction, the cost to the PRC would be tremendous, and the cost to the West would be so high they would probably defend Taïwan.

[@EggsBenAddict]

That's an amazing idea, in order to prevent their GDPs from slumping in the process, they could trade with each other and with smaller nations instead. That last one would especially help to circumvent any coercion attempts to smaller countries by China which will likely occur to undermine the West as well.

[@JR-vc4gm]

@@anthonylaviale3021 your making too many assumptions. I can also make an assumption that if China invaded Taiwan, the US would be the first one to recognizing it because of shortage of chips, or wouldn't allow Taiwan to destroy semiconductor factories in the first place

[@reuben524]

@@TheJoseph0123456789 Taiwan produces about 60% of world semi-conductor so world is very reliant on it,also Taiwanese company tsmc produces 54% of it worldwide,also its impossible for China to invade for 2 main reason,one is usa who have very close relationship and bigger reason is the island itself is a great fortress,saw a video which explained it extremely well

[@E4439Qv5]

Describing Lithuania as a flea is an amusing analogy. I have been dealing with fleas at my house for close to seven months now. They are more than a simple annoyance. They are persistent. They do not die. And they are staying rent-free.

[@Equinyx666]

i had the same problem for weeks because of a cat my sister brought in. They are SOOO annoying and hard to get rid off, and i was so tired of waking up with more bites every morning lol. BTW if u still have the problem: what worked for us was bowls of dish-soap+water in every room under a lamp/flashlight pointed at it, and excessively vacuuming every room at least once every 2 days.

[@crazydragy4233]

That's kinda the perfect descriptor for us haha!

[@AAAAAA-tj1nq]

@e4439qv5 Lithuanian government said it was a mistake to open an office under the Taiwanese name. China win

[@IKaruss94]

as a Latvian, I compleatly support Lithuania in this and hope that the rest of the Baltics and the EU will join them in soon

[@Flipflopflopper]

It will be hard with everyone needing to agree on something and with some countries in the pocket of the ccp, such as Greece

[@sinoroman]

the EU can’t since it mainly does internal (European affairs). for western side of Europe, ones in control, they won’t

[@MiSt3300]

Oh I love Stargate Atlantis too! Have you seen all of the seasons?

[@IKaruss94]

@@MiSt3300 I believe that this is the emblem used by all the SG personel. Anyway, yes, I have seen all 10+5+2 seasons of Stargate, though it has been some time. Atlantis probably was my fave =)

[@MiSt3300]

@@IKaruss94 oh you are right. Yeah, SGA was the best, I was so sad that they discontinued it. The best season was season 4 in my opinion. I also had a huge crush on dr Keller at that time (':

[@Dragonbombs]

You have to take those polls with a grain of salt. Most people right now are unhappy of how the government has handled the covid situation( so nothing new here) and most people think that offending China RIGHT NOW is not the best idea as we are struggling economically, but most of us have a very negative view of China and its policies, especially concerning the treatment of uighurs. The irony of China accusing Lithuania of mistreating jews is just palpable

[@kiradotee]

They did say other ethnic minorities too.

[@boopie577]

@@kiradotee Truth is, other ethnic minorities live quite well in Lithuania. Plenty of poles or russians who could be considered ethnic minorities here, Tatars as well for example. No one's going around and beating them, they live peacefully among us.

[@milantoth6246]

Its not just ironic, its so unrelated to anything as well. There are like 2700 of them in Lithuania who I doubt would complain that much about their current treatment. Like 99% of the 'mistreatment' happened under German oversight. And even if Lithuania would mistreat jews today, what the hell does china have to do with that? It shows how pathetic china behind all the fangs and claws really is.

[@tomtex9664]

Not only that, China itself does a lot more than mistreat any independent thoughts

[@buni1934]

@@boopie577 one of the baltic states is mistreating the russians are you sure that Lithuania is not forcing Russians to speak Lithuanian?

[@tuamstuamstuamstuams]

Chad Lithuania. Glad to see some governments have a spine

[@Xavier_Renegade_Angel]

driphuania

[@Vinvininhk]

Did you watch the entire video? Lithuania and the other Baltic states have backed down. The president of lithuania has even said it was a mistake.

[@homerisLT]

@@Vinvininhk The president, pussied out, not the goverment and in our country the president is not the goverment.

[@fod1991]

@@Vinvininhk President of Lithuania is useless. He will do everything opposite of what parliament is doing. Good or bad, he just doesnt care.

[@murtadha96]

@@homerisLT Lmao what about the public then, who don't seem to be very supportive of the policy?

[@VilleHyytiainenInvesting]

For those people who want EU to be more integrated I would totally support that if there were rules when some foreign country is using unjust trade restrictions against one EU state it would also include all the rest EU states. So in order for China or anyone else to bully one country they would have to break their entire trade relationship with EU.

[@tonymatic1704]

yeah but there will ofcourse be an exeption for a certain bully overseas that we already r tied to militarily, and then we will call that fairness and democracy

[@sinoroman]

it’s an economic union. almost like a trade league. anything political to a minor state by a foreign country can be done

[@VilleHyytiainenInvesting]

@@tonymatic1704 If you are referring to US sanctions against Nordstream 2 I agree, it was unlawful and EU response should be similar as to any other foreign nation bullying. Probably wouldn't happen in practice though. Still at least having some protection of superpower bullying small countries is better than none.

[@somethinglikethat2176]

Could change labelling to "Made in the EU" However it would dilute the brand value of some countries.

[@shlomoshlomo963]

@@vardekpetrovic9716 tbh if something like that happen it is not likely that poland would be a part of it (same for Hungary ) cuz western Europe would have no reason to have them ( they are already tied to america via nato)

[@daltese]

Tak!

[@bentalexranebundgaard4867]

Stay strong Lithuania, it has become a matter of princibles, something quite a lot of governments here in Europe seems to have forgot or overlooked, they should be careful not to be made irrelevant.

[@deginantisgameris]

Ačiū tau (tank you)

[@JoelDashReed]

*principles And you are damned right. EU and most of the rest of the world right now only cares about the ca$h West Taiwan maybe has.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

At least the EU is trying. Here in 'Murica everything in that area *is* China. Taiwan? China. Vietnam? China. Mongolia? China.

[@sinoroman]

good political science is not “I like this so I want this”

[@bachelor3846]

@@JoelDashReed There is no principles in modern world. Or what ideas EU is standing for? Only profit. And that is the most reasonable behavior, to my mind)

[@babyyoda1898]

🇱🇹🇪🇺🇩🇪 Maybe Lithaunia is stronger than my country is

[@tankart3645]

Germany blocked Estonian military aid to Ukraine because the German government cares more about its gas from Russian than about human rights.

[@sinoroman]

>stronger press X to doubt

[@dainiuscalnaris6959]

Im lithuanian and been waiting for this.

[@SloeJuice]

It's important to note that the Lithuanian president & the current government are not on the same side. The president is extremely pro-opposition.

[@povilastillcollapse]

The president is just a plain moron, he doesn’t have support from the neither side. Even antivaxxers dislike him now.

[@reaperz5677]

@@povilastillcollapse He's trying to be moderate. Which isn't a bad thing, really. However the key word here is "trying". He is absolutely fucking failing.

[@HellDuke-]

As a Lithuanian I will say: pretty sure the naming was fully intentional and I'd say there is no reason to back down from China.

[@brianuyungele1583]

It's sad to see your comment, Lithuania probably can't even influence China by 0.1%, even when "proudly standing up".

[@lordook5413]

​@@brianuyungele1583 Few more years and China will wipe its ass with US, even when "proudly sitting".

[@Wavpro]

@@lordook5413 bullshit lmao, China is practically failing in almost everything, crumbling buildings everywhere and a real estate market 5x worse than the US in the big cities, with a huge portion of the people (especially minorities, which they have a lot of) living in the middle of nowhere, where most people can't even afford a bike.

[@lordook5413]

@@Wavpro Economic issues are of no much import I think. US can always outprint even China's bitcoin miners :) What is alarming for me is the sheer audacity China employs when dealing with other nations. One doesn't need bike to be a asshole.

[@Wavpro]

@@lordook5413 well yeah, but it isn't helping them atm, none of their neighbors like them, and a big part of the country wants to seperate from China.

[@RAFMnBgaming]

I really hope the semiconductor factory deal goes ahead uninterrupted.

[@limtw6822]

Should be a lip service by Taiwan

[@lip124]

Its gonna go uninterrupted, US and japan got things going already.

[@battlebuddy4517]

@@lip124 better get my god damn GPU

[@lip124]

@@battlebuddy4517 Man fuck dat, I need my PS5.

[@freedumb_3.0]

@@battlebuddy4517 You're too poor to afford GPU made in America.

[@Bln-f9u]

Lithuania leads the way for Europe ❤🇱🇹

[@markusoliverasagtg9704]

As myliu Lietuva! Much love to Lithuania from Turkey, hopefully we can stand up to China as well

[@WilliamB.D.]

@Seth what does it mean east Turkey not allow. what are you talking about

[@vyteniskajackas7579]

As a lithuanian I am glad this absurd reaction of china is getting recognition, however the video has mistakes in it. Firstly, Lithuania also send vaccines to Taiwan, this was one of the main reasons the relationship started in the first place. Secondly, the government and the president are NOT thinking the same, the fact that the president said it was a mistake is only of the many things he has said, that were more harmful to the situation. As for the opinion poles, they should be taken by a pinch of salt, since it only asks around 1000 people, and nowadays there are quite a few antivaxxers that are not happy with pandemic policies and they are VERY vocal minority and they pretty much oppose everything that this government does.

[@cesas571]

So you don't know how polls are made. 1000 is a sample which represents all citizens. Ideally, you can have 2000, but mostly it takes 1000 people. Secondly, it's not few antivaxxers. Of all current party's supporters only 13% support Lithuania's foreign policy to China.

[@sinoroman]

@@cesas571 weird over there in eastern europe

[@hgos7211]

Pretty sure a good amount of Lithuanian businesses would prefer China's larger market over Taiwan's. Lithuania is free to have official relations with Taiwan, just can't be surprised if they're no longer welcome in China, lmao.

[@somethinglikethat2176]

@@hgos7211 the Chinese market is a poisoned chalice. Rampant IP theft and trademark infringement goes unpunished. Facing the risk of being caught in the middle of an illegal Chinese government trade war. The terms and conditions are very onerous and can damage the companies brand, like Google getting caught in Chinese government surveillance of the Uighur minority. Or like ARM found out, your Chinese "business partners" can just seize your Chinese part of the business with local authorities doing nothing. At the end of the day, without the rule of law in China it's not worth doing business with.

[@cesas571]

@@hgos7211 I don't think that Lithuania businesses don't want Taiwan's market. It's just that current government acts like a bunch pf hotheads, and they made a lot of mistakes since they are in the parliament and government. And people are just unhappy that politicians act without thinking thoroughly first. For example - we always knew that Lukashenko is a douchebag and a dictator, but all governments didn't do shit to tackle him down, or they didn't took any disidents to protect. But somehow when "conservatives" (and they ain't conservative) won, they started to make political and economical moves towards Belarus which resulted in 4000 illegal immigrants near our border. Immigrants that nobody want:). Vaccine mandates are more sensitive theme for voters. Businesses don't have a very good time right now, and then we get into a conflict with China. Maybe in the long term it's a good thing, I just think that people are tired and instead of concentrating power to sort out inside's problems, we concentrate too much on foreign policy.

[@TheECSH]

i'm Taiwanese, and i must say, i've been in love with most of Central/Eastern Europe for a long time, waaaay before all these talks between our countries started. i have so much admiration and appreciation of their history and great historical figures, their cultures and their resilience. I personally have been to Poland, Czechia, and Slovakia each twice, and Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania each once, and have plans to visit more of them in the near future.

[@petalx3682]

we are warriors, we fight for our land and freedom even against the strongest of enemies ! stay strong Taiwan 🇹🇼

[@masturch99f]

People like you will be always welcome in our countries. We are bound by the history of being bullied by oppressors and know what compromising eventually comes to. Makes me really sad seing what the global bullies are up to and how the west is not even trying to resist it. Whether it's Russia or China, doesn't matter. Just remember truth will always win. We're up for a wild ride soon. Greetings from Latvia

[@LL-ow1qt]

Greetings from Latvia! 🤘

[@justanotherhotguy]

And I want to visit Taiwan at least once!

[@onichan6897]

Wish you luck northern neighbors 🇵🇭 💙 🇹🇼

[@gifigi600]

Go Lithuania! 🇱🇻👍🇱🇹

[@sinoroman]

eh

[@vronxee6873]

Wont work it be just like Australia

[@polytopiahu1015]

I've never been prouder to be of Lithuanian descent

[@druviseglite]

As a Latvian, I support Lithuania on this. China and CCP can go off on their own while Lituania and Taiwan could team up in tech and have mutual benefits as Lithuania is skilled in tech.

[@falcom4ever541]

As EU citizen, feel proud of Lithuania 🇱🇹 and Slovenia 🇸🇮 being part of the same Union and I hope the rest of EU will have the balls to stand against the bully

[@李荣-n7s]

yes. when bully been bully back... they shocked...and say： someone bully me：）

[@falcom4ever541]

@@李荣-n7s Wo bu ming bai la

[@李荣-n7s]

@@falcom4ever541 i mean Lithuania bully china first.. and then China bully back..and then Lithuania shocked: how dare you china...you should not bully back..it is evil..... :)

[@falcom4ever541]

​@@李荣-n7s Lol

[@jaredgomora6506]

@@李荣-n7s China foreign political action to others country kinda act like a childish it's like a kid who always got offended cringed wolf warrior diplomacy 🤣 Lithuania's actions is right Taiwan is country and soon or someday they will be recognize

[@tottalynotmark877]

GO LITHUANIA 🇭🇷❤🇱🇹

[@limtw6822]

Yes, go go go.

[@tottalynotmark877]

@Lawless Naw

[@tottalynotmark877]

@Lawless ok

[@tottalynotmark877]

@Lawless ok

[@tottalynotmark877]

@Lawless gladly

[@Lithnox]

As a Lithuanian I can also share this little fun fact: Lithuania invested about 3 times more in China than China did in the last 30 years while previously being in 17+1 China investing 15.6mil € Lithuania investing about 40-47mil € Also Viva la Taiwanese 🇹🇼 democratic nation!

[@VilleHyytiainenInvesting]

I'd say thats good, you don't want Chinese to own too much of your country assets. I believe the trade volume is much higher than the investment volume.

[@sinoroman]

I guess the country doesn’t need Lithuania

[@JR-vc4gm]

@@tomasbutnorius8477 maybe Lituania was pissed of having too little investment from China and later didn't expect such a reaction from China?

[@REgamesplayer]

Your theory is correct. We have memories of old Soviet oppression and we are not fond of Chinese's communism.

[@compatriot852]

As a Lithuanian living in America, this makes me proud of my country standing up against communism and authoritarian states is a part of our culture.

[@russellcarey2430]

Living in America makes one knowledgeable about authoritarian states.

[@CaptainSmirk]

Labas

[@Lithuanian_NAFO_lad]

Oh, hey compatriot. I knew id see you here. Till we meet again

[@Qunas]

I'm very proud of my country Lithuania and that it is standing up against CCP and I think EU and other countries should stand with Lithuania in this situation.

[@rcbrascan]

The EU did not stand with Lithuania on the torture of Syrians by the US on Lithuanian soil. The EU forced Lithuania to pay compensation to the victims.

[@Emilechen]

to be honest, most Chinese don't even hate or notify Lithuania, or take it as an worthy opponent, they consider Lithuania just as a clown who sacrifices its own interest for the other great power of the West, for vanity, but still takes itself for an hero, if Lithuania has problem with USSR or Russia, it is not the business of China, China doesn't care and has nothing to do with it, and final advice, if your country has such courage, just recognize directly thr independence of Taiwan, that's all,

[@inflex4456]

I wish Czechia does the same as Lithuania did...

[@psq6214]

Absolutely based Lithuania, Love from 🇮🇹❤️🇱🇹

[@psq6214]

@Seth Will do, Salame milanese e napoletano for our homies in Lithuania

[@vanbaguette7368]

EU: (ignores chinese expansionism) Lithuania: Fine, I'll do it myself.

[@ProfessionalBadPerson]

Chinese expansionism is when you don't want to recognise your rival government who brutally purged CPC people and mishandled war with Japan.

[@vanbaguette7368]

@@ProfessionalBadPerson Chinese expansionism is where you buy eastern european states so they veto EU legeslations China doesn't fancy.

[@ProfessionalBadPerson]

@@vanbaguette7368 You'd prefer they be invading them instead? China's diplomacy benefits everyone.

[@vanbaguette7368]

@@ProfessionalBadPerson I prefer them keeping out of other countries politics.

[@andysol.4593]

@@vanbaguette7368 tell that to the US

[@Oivaras]

A few mistakes there. It all started at the beginning of the pandemic, when Lithuania had a serious shortage of medical masks and Taiwan donated a ton of those. Then Lithuania donated vaccines to Taiwan, together with a few other countries.

[@Ginjitzu]

Well done Lithuania! Solidarity with Lithuania and Taiwan from Ireland. 🇱🇹🇹🇼🇮🇪

[@Robespierre-lI]

Isn't Ireland supposed to be neutral. Or have you be guys finally decided to take a stand on international issues you have to secretly believed in for decades?

[@Ginjitzu]

@@Robespierre-lI Ireland is military neutral. This doesn't mean we don't align ourselves with certain political or philosophical factions. Also, my opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of other Irish people.

[@Baco_Bacon584]

As a Lithuanian this video is amaizing and perfectly explain the situation.

[@RisusShorts]

Lietuvis ? ane ?

[@Alex-pj8nz]

Didn’t your government gave up ?

[@JR-vc4gm]

And do you support you government decision?

[@Baco_Bacon584]

@@RisusShorts o kaip gi

[@boopie577]

@@Alex-pj8nz The president, a.k.a. a spineless slug, gave up, the government did not.

[@makedonskiblisk]

As a slovenian, i really hope more countries all over the world start joining the china boycott.

[@buni1934]

What boycott?

[@sinoroman]

I like how all the irrelevant countries are recognizing the island

[@winged9247]

@@sinoroman China's massive reaction shows that they clearly are relevant

[@sinoroman]

@@winged9247 redditors gonna love your comment

[@Kameeho]

Meanwhile Albania: Hey CCP! Remember we were first ones to give you recognition? And stood on your side during the sino-soviet split? China: Who are you again?

[@unbroken5885]

Lithuania continues to be the iron wolf of baltics with integrity, they have known to be throughout the times. As an estonian, I wish that we would be more like Lithuania in many ways.

[@TurkeySmashR]

USA and the rest of Europe could learn a thing or two from brave little Lithuania. As an American, its pretty crazy that Lithuania is showing more guts than my country that's supposed to be leading this fight for western values.

[@karankapoor2701]

Full support to Lithuania

[@limtw6822]

Yes, support Lithuania the lapdog of USA. The master will take care all his pets. No worry.

[@c.augustedupin8860]

@@limtw6822 these Indians think they are very smart, they dint realise that the west will be after them with support for Kashmir independence

[@Newpes]

@@limtw6822 + 15 social credit

[@theanglo-lithuanian1768]

@@limtw6822 "Good job citizen, you have gained 50 social credit points. 1500 more and well let your family out of our 'reeducation' camps after you dared to show a picture of Winnie the Pooh"

[@limtw6822]

@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 show me the money is best!!

[@Rainbow_Task_1A]

I see that the Lithuanians are calling upon the spirit of their Grand Duchy of Lithuania period (time of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth), when they were an important powerhouse in Europe (16 and 17 centuries). They may not be as big as in those times but the fortitude and braveness is still there, intact. Props to Lithuania and their balls of steel. Wish many more countries would do this to see the CCP's desperate and pathetic reactions, I'd love to see that.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

The PRC can’t really do anything to Lithuania with regards to the ROC… they’re just very distant, given they divest away from the PRC and invest in other countries instead.

[@kiradotee]

A lot of people in the baltics do use aliexpress and buy products from China.

[@fod1991]

@@kiradotee And that is why approval rates are so low :D because of aliexpress, sad

[@aleksandersuur9475]

@@kiradotee Irrelevant, China isn't going to restrict their own exports and even if they did circumvention would be trivial. China can restricts imports from Lithuania, but the volumes exported from Lithuania to China are marginal and it doesn't really make any meaningful impact. China has zero leverage so far from home, all they can do is make noise.

[@sinoroman]

the island will be taken eventually, probably far later

[@aleksandersuur9475]

@@sinoroman Not all that likely. First autocratic regimes don't last forever, inevitably they burn and get remade in one crisis or another. Secondly, communist China specifically is not fond of getting in wars even if they in theory have a lot of military might. Even an autocratic regime needs to convince it's supporters in a necessity of a war and for cultural reasons it's particularly difficult in China. Thirdly, Taiwan is incredibly important for the entire rest of the world due to their key position in semiconductor industry, China would get ganged up by absolutely every country in the world if they seriously pissed in that pot and they well know it. They can make noise all day, but their last realistic options to take Taiwan are long past and never coming back.

[@BurnBird1]

As a bit of a European nationalist, I really think that the EU as a whole should be supportive of Lithuania and be more united in questions such as this. China might take a few more moments to consider doing things like this if they knew that they would be hurting their relationship with the entirety of the EU.

[@jaklg7905]

China is a bully. Every other Country needs to stand up to it. Start producing things without them and slowly make them irrelevant.

[@BurnBird1]

@@jaklg7905 Making them irrelevant is impossible considering their size both in terms of population, land and resources, but we should strive towards being less reliant on them.

[@jaklg7905]

@@BurnBird1 Yes, no one should be so reliant on another Country that they can get away with threats like this.

[@BurnBird1]

@@BocaoZ In the sentence itself? Nationalism is the "identification with one's own nation and support for its interests" So what is a nation then? Well: "a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory." So I, as European, see myself as a part of a European nation, with a common descent and culture as the rest of Europe and that it should be united into a single nation. Of course their are differences between all the nations and peoples of Europe, but it's no different from the people of India being able to identify as Indian, as opposed to Bengali or Telugu. They might do that too, but you're able to identify with multiple identities at different scales I can identify as European, Swedish, Norrlander and Hälsing, all at once, without any contradictions.

[@solssun]

So much respect to this coalition of countries, with Lithuania already being a great place for tech and startups and Taiwan being a leader in conductors and chips I can see a great future between them. It’s positive to see smaller countries push back against the coercive political tactics and the narratives of the superpowers

[@fallendown8828]

Lithuania ❤️ never stop stading up for democratic nations and against economic and political pressure of totolaterian dictatorships

[@Vikkin1218]

I'm kinda happy about what happened. A small country showed the middle finger to Winni the pooh. China can embargo Lithuania, but LT is small enough that the western world can mitigate the economic issue and China can be picked on.

[@AnymMusic]

@@uros7426 and? finally people who stand up to pooh bear

[@leviticusemmanuel4421]

They supporting America at the detriment of their economy. America is far away and doing just fine. Well putting the economy of your country in jeopardy does not seem right to me.

[@Carewolf]

Reminds me of the 90s where the Denmark were the first to criticize China's human rights record (possibly urged on by the US who couldn't do it themselves without triggering a much larger international conflict) China embargoed Denmark for a year or two before things normalized.

[@jukahri]

@@flexparachute Just because you're doing a bad, doesn't mean you can't point out when others do a bad too.

[@Carewolf]

@@flexparachute What on earth are you talking about? There are no whales in Denmark. And if you are talking about the Faroese Islands, they do eat them, and only hunt whales that aren't endangered.

[@sinoroman]

denmark is a good US junior

[@Jake-dh9qk]

@@jukahri aka "Just cus you're a thief doesn't mean you can't complain about someone else stealing" Technically you're right, but we have a word for that: Hypocrites

[@jukahri]

@@Jake-dh9qk Being a hypocrite doesn't remove substance to your criticism. It simply makes it harder for you to justify yourself in doing bad things. Also, I hope everybody here accepts that killing animals is on a different level from killing (or even enslaving) human beings.

[@andyusfca]

Taiwanese here. Thanks for Slovakia's and Lithuania's support. Don't let China huge size intimidate you. For one, its so called "huge" consumer market is not that huge after all. It is true that Taiwan runs a 6.7 billion U.S. dollars trade surplus against China, BUT, out of the top ten companies that export good out of China, five of them are Taiwanese companies. Hence, Taiwan is depending on China for its cheap labor and supply chain, not its so called consumer market. That's the so called China's huge consumer market is just a myth.

[@lukask2489]

as an Lithuanian I support my country decision to open an separate Taiwan embassy and I think we all should stand up against China. Lithuania stands up against Russia and Belarus (authoritarian regimes) for many years now and we should be afraid of China as their illegal trade war will only stimulate internal trading. as an person I support Taiwan since it's an democratic county and its nice to see that they also care about us and willing to invest and give jobs and opportunity to possibly develop micro chips for Europe area

[@brianuyungele1583]

Lol, Taiwan doesnt even call taiwan a country. They call themselves republic of China. And mainland calls themselves peoples republic of China. Two different regimes, same land

[@markdin2988]

@lati long Putin annexed Crimea lmao

[@Nourulette]

@@brianuyungele1583 One is a fucking island, how is it the same land?

[@brianuyungele1583]

@@Nourulette that what you don't know about Taiwan. Officially Taiwan claims entire China not just the island, that's the same land Beijing claims. Same land

[@deezeed2817]

Cut off Lithuania completely.

[@Immudzen]

Taiwan is a country. It has its own government, borders, police, military, trade etc. This should not be a big deal to just recognize that. The rest of the world should just recognize Taiwan as a country. China is just being stupid here. They have a lot more to gain by just recognizing Taiwan and having better trade relations. This whole issue seems to exist because China has some weird honor thing going on about Taiwan instead of actually making a rational decision.

[@c.augustedupin8860]

who the hell are you to decide what's common sense and what's correct . you are no one to decide that

[@evoluxman9935]

China explicitely states they will stop all trade with countries that refuse to recognize the one china policy. Our economies being way too dependant on them, we simply can't do shit without going into a recession overnight. It's a demon we created ourselves, and we are now dealing with the consequences.

[@anmolpatel793]

That would mean recognising Taiwan claims on China and beyond that would be sucidal to PRC

[@atari947]

There is a lot more historical context to the issue than you acknowledge here. its not an "honor" thing. Asians are not obsessed with these old outdated ideas."Taiwan" is the Republic of China, a political entity that has existed for almost a hundred years. There is a long history between the two entities, the ROC actually instigated the conflict by cracking down on the communists, thus sparking a civil war. I don't agree with the PRC but from their perspective, it is a challenge to their legitimacy, as the ROC still claims to be the rightful government of China.

[@lucidcatnap]

The PRC is a totalitarian and nationalist state. It will continue to pursue an aggressive irredentist foreign policy until they get a different leadership.

[@bournettanmapping8762]

We share the same story Lithuania 😊 🇱🇹♥️🇦🇺

[@arne2985]

so proud of lithuania, wishing my home country had the courage ...

[@strangenessEPR]

Lithuania is my new favorite country. Taking on Russia and China simultaneously just because it’s the right thing to do, regardless of economic/military retaliation. Sending love to Lithuania from a EU citizen.❤️ 🇱🇹

[@strangenessEPR]

@lati long Whatever.

[@_blank-_]

@lati long It's a confederation, so yes, I do consider myself a European citizen when fellow Europeans are attacked.

[@stunimbus1543]

When the US threatened trade restrictions on Germany, the EU were highly vociferous saying they couldn't, it was illegal, trade agreements were with the EU not just Germany. So why have they been understated with regard to China putting trade restrictions on Lithuania?

[@rcbrascan]

The US actually went and implemented the trade restrictions on Germany and France and it was only last month that some, not all, of the restrictions were lifted. They were only lifted because the US needs its NATO allies to agree to contain China.

[@utkult]

I love Lithuania ❤️

[@homerisLT]

Not sure who did that pole, but being Lithuanian myself I can say that most people agree with thd policy. We arent gonna get bullied by some commies.

[@adamjohnson7093]

China was never communist, what are you talking about

[@baktom]

As a Lithuanian I too fully support our government's policy. Unlike Western countries we became immune to the communist aggression and bullying, we've seen worse than that we're not scared.

[@louiebergendal6409]

@@adamjohnson7093 I don't think whether China are commies or not was not the point. I think the emphasis is on the "not being bullied"-part.

[@azalien4]

@@adamjohnson7093 I dare you to google the ruling party of china

[@pontiuspilates]

Sorry, man, but you're delusional. Get out of your bubble.

[@12kenbutsuri]

How can you support Lithuania economically as an individual?

[@Joaos.video.archive]

government bonds, i’d assume

[@alessandrodonadi1368]

Get drunk with their Rum in Taiwan i guess

[@HowDoYouEatPie]

Go there on a vacation and support the local tourism industry once the pandemic eases.

[@limtw6822]

No worries, USA will do that.

[@vyteniskajackas7579]

Buy lithuanian products

[@modestasurbelis]

I think that was a really risky decision to open a de-facto embassy with the wording 'Taiwan' and no one wanted to annoy China in the first place. However, as a lithuanian, my country Lithuania was first recognised as a real country by Iceland at the time when USSR was breaking(ish) apart. Without recognition of others, countries can't exist it's one of the core principles of an independent state. So I kinda feel Taiwan. I'm happy to say. Yes, Taiwan is a real, independent country, even if it hurts economically. They also say - love people, use things. Economic is a 'thing' in the end. Maybe it's an unpopular opinion but it is an opinion.

[@_blank-_]

@lati long Yet even Vietnam prefers the US to China and China is alienating every single one of its neighbor with territorial disputes.

[@shampoable]

Rarely does doing the right thing pay off so well. The initiative has my full support

[@75echo]

long live Lithuania, you are clearly the Elefant and not the flea. Respect!

[@POCLEE]

Regarding foreign relationship China is basically an oversized kid.

[@antimonycup7066]

..with a glass heart.

[@Rottengoal]

And they accuse Lithuania of antisemitism when Jews in china aren't even allowed to practice Judaism

[@antimonycup7066]

@@Rottengoal See, that's why I don't like the word antisemitism; it conflates two things. Having a bias against a set of ideas, either a religion or an ideology, can be totally fair, based on which ideas within that set you object to and why, but judging someone on their set of genetics is pointless and wrong. Every human life born should have the same rights, but ideas sets should be judged on their merits.

[@purplehaze8557]

5:44 Aren't elephants scared of mice?

[@taureon_]

applies here too china is scared of the lithuanian ability of putting up a wrong word on a sign

[@kaukasvejo]

Geographically, Lithuania is a country of Northern Europe, given this classification under the UN's geographical distribution of world regions and states.

[@Emilechen]

but Lithuania is not a Scandinavian country, neither othrr Baltci states, so it would be better to regroup Lithuania, two Baltic states, Poland, Czechia and Slovakia in the same category: West Slavic and Baltic countries,

[@skuyzy198]

@@Emilechen UK is not a scandinavian country either, yet it is seen as northern europe. Being seen as northern europe is not exclusive to scandinavian countries, ok?

[@crazydragy4233]

@@Emilechen Economic and Geographical categories are separate things

[@jeffpeng1118]

I have occasionally seen this news from the Chinese side (not government outlets), and here are my 2 cents. If China wants every country to name the Taiwan office as Chinese Taipei, then Lithuania naming it as Taiwan is really challenging China to react. and so it did. Otherwise other countries would follow suit if they see Lithuania suffers no consequences doing this. Besides, if Lithuania simply "misnamed" the office, why not just change it back instead of sticking to this policy? It clearly has done it on purpose. While I agree that the wolf warrior speeches are made for Chinese domestic audiences only and seem funny from outside China, it is really no surprise that China reacted this way. Also, I wouldn't count the symbolic support and empty words from America and western countries as "backfire" to China's reaction. The same people and country would criticize China on every other issue regardless. As the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Only Taiwan's aid is substantial and it is expected as Taiwan seeks to gain recognition. What would make it truly a backfire is for these countries to economically aid Lithuania to cover its losses from China's reaction and potentially make it better off than before.

[@pomeranianproductions647]

The entire EU should back Lithuania. Such an action would normalize recognition for Taiwan.

[@pomeranianproductions647]

@Pangaea China won’t go to war with anyone for recognizing Taiwan lmao. At most there will be some economic reprisal but it’s too risky considering Chinas reliance on the other two power blocks in the world. Thos being the US and EU.

[@dracoboomin6511]

@@pomeranianproductions647 Nah China would actually go to war. I know you Europeans love provoking shit but dont do this one.

[@RisusShorts]

As Lithuanian, im sad that not majority supports Taiwan, and I think my president is kinda jerk.

[@Me-ui1zy]

I assume its less that they don't support Taiwan, more that it just not worth angering China whom Lithuania is far more economically reliant on

[@boopie577]

Nauseda is a spineless slug who will say anything to keep his poll numbers up.

[@RisusShorts]

@@boopie577 yep

[@RisusShorts]

@@Me-ui1zy in some case u right

[@reuben524]

@@Me-ui1zy Lithuania is not reliant on China at all,it is more reliant on Russia and US then china China is not even top5

[@neymarjunior5804]

As a Brazilian, I have deep respect to Lithuania since it won independence in 1990. Just hope that China won't use Russia to invade Lithuania though.

[@c.augustedupin8860]

why man??? you're brazilian . it's very unfortunate that you hold such views, I hope I know how the west views you guys

[@alanlight7740]

No worries about China invading Lithuania through Russia. Russia doesn't trust China enough to allow large numbers of Chinese troops to pass through their territory, and then there's all the completely avoidable and pointless diplomatic problems that would result from that. The Russians aren't stupid - they'd have a lot to lose and nothing to gain from such a move. For that matter, China may be able to muster significant military power at home, but they don't have the means to project that power much beyond their borders. There's not much they can do to Lithuania outside the diplomatic and economic realms, though that by itself could be significant.

[@GoDLiKeKakashi]

I didn't know this until recently, but I think the 3rd largest Lithuanian community outside Lithuania is in Brazil, there's even a Little Lithuania somewhere there I remember reading about so it seems like we really like Brazil!

[@sinoroman]

makes 0 sense

[@TylerSolvestri]

@@c.augustedupin8860 The Asians have the same prism towards Latinamericans as the European influenced countries. So stop projecting

[@kosmicheskiprah]

Baltic nation with balls. Admiration and deep respect!

[@andreispurim]

China calls Lithuania a "flea in the feet of an elephant" forgetting it was Lithuania that broke the USSR apart in the first place.

[@will7816]

Full support to Lithunania !

[@ironwolf5453]

What can I say.... big balls energy

[@byron-ih2ge]

ITS LITERALLY A "DAVID VS GOLIATH " MATCH WITHOUT EVEN AN EXAGGERATION!!

[@Triadii]

We support you a small strong European country Lithuania 🇱🇹 , here from Finland 🇫🇮

[@jasiaci1]

Well done Lithuania!

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

China: "Childrens' rights are gravely violated as well. With deplorable human rights records. Lithuania should make deep reflection and give a responsible explanation to the international community." Tibet, Uyghuristan and Hong Kong:

[@Rottengoal]

They also accuse Lithuania of antisemitism when Chinese Jews aren't even allowed to practice their own religion and are under heavy surveillance if they even just read the Torah

[@nescaudrummer]

I support Lithuania and also Taiwan 🇱🇹 🇹🇼 good job 👍🏻

[@Toga-s_Wife]

Lithuania's a legend

[@valdasnetavo8746]

Lithuanian here, about 4h ago was a interview with G. Landsbergis, we not gonna change the Taiwanese office name... And Lithuanian people, strongly support Taiwan.

[@theRealRindberg]

Awesome!

[@tautvydas2019]

Maybe in capital, but in province almost nobody support taiwan.

[@valdasnetavo8746]

@@tautvydas2019 I'm from town, which hosting 30k people everybody in here support Taiwan... Not so far, from my town is province and Klaipeda, also almost everybody in there support Taiwan.

[@TheAnikasis]

We in the EU should stand with Taiwan in solidarity. We should follow in Lithuania's government's footsteps and defend people's right to self-determination and democracy.

[@languist]

Norway should do the same thing really.

[@Domihork]

Stay strong Lithuanians, Czechs stand by you! We're in this together, we cannot let them shit on us.

[@李荣-n7s]

sounds like china will let you shit on china

[@LuizVieiraPintoNeto]

How can a government be such a snowflake? “He name him as not mine! HE IS MINE! I’LL CALL MUM!”

[@arfajob4246]

Real easy. Winnie the pooh & his gang are on thin diplomatic ice as it is, both internal & on the global stage. Whole countries (however large or small) standing up to be counted as friends of Taiwan invite more to do the same & send shivers back to Peking.

[@sinoroman]

@@arfajob4246 cringey

[@deezeed2817]

Taiwan belongs to China, It was stolen by Japanese imperialists who waged a war of aggression and was returned through the blood and sacrifices of Chinese who fought against Japan during WW2. Taiwan independence was invented by Lee Teng Hui a pro-Japan traitor. Taiwan is sacrosanct. Not up for any debate by outside forces. Those who attempt to pry Chinese territory away will become an enemy of all Chinese people.

[@PandaEntertainment1]

Protect Taiwan and Lithuania at all costs

[@bardon1384]

As a Lithuanian I would like to note some things: First of Lithuania also donated covid-19 vaccines to Taiwan, it was the first european country to do so. The public does not support Lithuanian policy towards Taiwan, because we don't see any practical help from the west or neighbours at all, only Taiwan gives practical support by investing in Lithuania 200 million euros, sharing experiences etc, but Taiwan's help won't be enough. While west does say nice things about Lithuania or how they express support to Lithuania or how they express concern, such concern express is worthless. Lithuanian public mostly hears how companies are leaving Lithuania, how Lithuania is becoming less attractive to investment, and how europe can't help Lithuania. The president of Lithuania is known for changing his opinion every week or month. President for example would criticize government for not taking any actions to speed up covid-19 vaccination, when after government did something he would say vaccination program is too strict, and after a few weeks later he would say that government on purpose slowed down vaccination rates. Meanwhile he visits restaurants known for being against vaccines and invites antivaxers to presidency as guests. Then president changed his stance towards Belarus leader, he once in an interview said "EU can't hold talks with Belarus' illegitimate leader", 6 days later to a BBC interview he said we should talk to Belarus leader just like Merkel did. And then came the Taiwan question, first president supported Taiwan office name, but after 5 months of supporting it, he called it a "mistake" and blamed the foreign minister for not discussing Taiwan office opening with him (foreign minister denied this and said Taiwan office name was not only discussed, but also coordinated with the president). It is uncertain on who is lying. While the first 2 moments were mostly internal politics, the Taiwan one was discussed a lot in foreign medias which caused Lithuania a bit of an embarrassment. Some people think president changes his opinion to increase popularity, as all of those mentioned moments caused tension with the Lithuanian government. Lithuanian governments are always unpopular, no matter who runs the country, and presidents are always popular, because in Lithuania presidency institution has high trust. Picking fights with an unpopular government can help increase presidents popularity. (Lithuania had never re-elected the same government in it's existence). Lithuanian TS-LKD, LRLS, LP led coalition is unlikely to pull out of this tension by renaming office, pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned.(not only that but Lithuania would would have a massive embarrassment mark if they pulled out).

[@sinoroman]

can someone fix lithuania. I think it’s broken

[@tytllee]

I am really embarassed about our president, it was better when he did nothing at all.

[@MeidoInHebun]

Sounds like Lithuania is a mess internally.

[@bardon1384]

@@MeidoInHebun it is, would love to see someone make an english video about it.

[@慕容沫子]

THERE IS ONLY ONE CHINA, TAIWAN IS A PROVINCE OF CHINA.

[@wabalaladabdab]

Every country should be like Lithuania 🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹

[@Nikitiitta]

You go Lithuania!

[@k0per1s]

Lithuania sent vaccines too. I am surprised so many Lithuanians don't support this policy though.

[@Aistis1918]

Only dumbass boomers who don't know which way is up don't support it.

[@ulumanshu]

I support it, most people who dont support just see nothing wrong with autoritarian regimes. (my father ghem😅). Or they just really dont care about anything non material.

[@oxcaxx]

Lithuania is based as hell. Disappointed in Estonia’s stance but I completely understand where it’s coming from, as a small nation it is scary as hell to stand up against a global superpower like China. Therefore I will excuse stances like that of small countries like Estonia and praise Lithuania’s brave stance. What I won’t excuse is Germany sucking up to China and Russia in disputes like this. They are a superpower in their own right and shouldn’t have to suck up to undemocratic dictatorships in disputes.

[@wannerknappe0483]

I am German and I hate that we are always cucking towards China. I thought it would be better with the Greens and liberals in the government but in fact its worse. Also we need Russia against China

[@m3c4nyku43]

Germany is doing the right thing by not fueling US Imperialism and avoiding WW3 as much as possible.

[@Friek555]

@@wannerknappe0483 How is the current government worse than before in that regard? That is just not true.

[@fouly1981]

So why not just cut off diplomatic relations with the United States? Americans are dictating the world ;)

[@AnymMusic]

@@m3c4nyku43 mate clearly China is all bark and no bite. maybe the entirety of Europe should for once take a stance against megalomaniacs like China

[@napoleon2564]

It seem to me that China is showing their hand about how insecure their position is. Just an an analogy, if someone steps on your shoe and you start a fight, it's probably because you spent too much of your income on those shoes.

[@crusaderkaiser2000]

Eastern Europe really is showing the world how to deal with dictatorships

[@EdvinasMandravickasABC]

As Lithuanian I think we need to stand by our choice... It does not matter if you support it or not... the move was made and we need to stand by it... of course our president is spinless slug... but he does not have much power so at least we have that... If we will give up or if EU won't support us, China might as well just get into EU and occupy us.... not much difference....

[@Dan19870]

If Lithuania really wanted to upset the CCP they should have named the representative office in Vilnius 'The Republic of China Representative Office', but they didn't. As for Lijian Zhoa calling out Lithuania for Anti-Semitism and Children's right's abuses I'm gobsmacked. The last time that Anti-Semetic crimes were committed in Lithuania, that I know of, it was under occupation and as for Children's right's abuses, I'm pretty sure that Lithuania has outlawed Child labour, unlike China.

[@tonymatic1704]

haha that info outdated as heck

[@Rottengoal]

Also Jews in china aren't even allowed to practice their own religion

[@ermin2248]

Those are confusing times

[@michaelm4550]

As a Pole, you KNOW we have your back on this. The entire EU should stand behind Lithuania on this one

[@XolifreX]

As a Belgian, this move is great and I hope more big EU countries (and mine) will fully support Lithuania in this action!

[@Emilechen]

no, other EU countires just take Lithuania as a dumb pion, it is Lithuania who takes the risk and pay the bill in a useless conflict with China, and other EU countires continue to make profit with China,