Chinese CF-98

Larry gives a first hand look at one of the rarest 9mm pistols in the US. The Chinese service pistol export, CF-98.
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[@xutiancao8028]

Larry very cool video. As a Chinese who lived in USA and also a gun nuts who owned way too many guns. I found a common problem in chinese firearm design is lack of the user feedback. Unlike us civilians own a lot of firearms in China it’s prohibited for civilian to own firearms. So when the designer design the weapon they only have the narrow idea of themselves thinking it’s good for the operators. They don’t get a lot of user feedbacks at all. Such as the windowed mag on 92 in early days which was fixed already in later production. Another example will be the qbz95/97 the mag release is very small and hard to hit same as the selector and safety. The designer think it’s safer for the soldier to use but in their real world it’s a pain in the ass. Well with the new rifle coming out hopefully we can see the improvement these such as optic will become more common in the rifle and the ergo will be more user friendly. Very good video as always Larry!

[@kevincccc6310]

The qbz97’s mag release problem is only for 97. The 95 has the AK style rock & lock system.

[@chinagod1]

我觉得这不是问题的原因，中国有百万的军队和警察部队，他们同样会反馈产品的问题。 中国的问题在于缺乏竞争，而枪械的基本结构已经很成熟了，很难取得创新的成果。这直接影响设计人员的收入。 另外一个原因是，中国的枪械很多是面向军队设计的，要平衡制造成本等多种因素。这就导致中国缺乏西方民用市场那种优化到极致的枪械。

[@eagol]

香港警方不久前就公开宣布经过详细测试与考量后，将会选用 CF-98 替代警队沿用多年的 S&W .38 口径左轮作为巡警用枪。

[@majormassenspektrometer]

If the open magazine design was a problem the Russians would have changed it a loooong time ago. Watch MACs torture test of the Makarov. You can put sand in the mag as much as you want, the pistol won't jam.

[@thirdforantsuccessnaiwala628]

bfgguns

[@boocomban]

makarov was like Colt hammerless designed for Officers since Soviet doctrine didn't issue pistol for normal troops. Only NCO, Tank crew, Pilots and special force and police. The doctrine only changed in Russia in 2003 when Modernization of Russian military force to standard PYa Mp443. The problem was not of lack of power but lack of fire sustaining since it only has 8 rounds. Later version increase up to 10-12 rounds but it still not enough they later replace it with APS pistol, which is 20 round 9x18mm anyway. So it not really weak round, the reason it got chosen simply is cheaper to make the Makarov with lower pressure round like 9x18mm since it do the job and not many fields troops gonna use pistol anyway and armour was not really a thing back then.

[@moizsiddikio4]

Mine didn't have open sides in magazines.

[@voyager8049]

It makes it easier for the chamber to get dirty and will likely mess with long term reliability though. I don’t think it is such a good design considering the only benefit is that the shooter can clearly see how many rounds they have, which can be achieved with many other ways

[@wtb6803]

@@voyager8049 That is because 9mm was designed for the police in the city, not for field combat. Army used 5.00+mm bullets

[@canadianplinker9011]

These are 200-300$$ here in Canada. About as cheap as you can get for 9mm and they’re pretty decent. I bought mine for 230$

[@jehoiakimelidoronila5450]

Well I guess gun control is much more strict up there than USA... And your only option are those Imports. Communist simp.

[@canadianplinker9011]

@@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 you say gun control is much more strict here like Britain or Australia don’t exist. At least we actually have people resisting any new legislations being released. Don’t go calling me a commie when you got your president literally choking on chinas dick

[@canadianplinker9011]

@Master Marc Subliminals you get a firearms license. That card will act as your background check. You can buy a gun at a gun shop, online retailer or from a private sale

[@tam6051]

@@canadianplinker9011 "private sale" does it mean a black market?

[@canadianplinker9011]

@@tam6051 how does private sale mean blackmarket? Black market is where the criminals get their guns. private sale means privately sold outside from the dealer. Selling the gun themselves to another gun owner.

[@gustavoechevarria9369]

Now this is a treat! Been waiting forever for Larry to review these, wish he could review the Original Qsz-92 in its 5.8mm cartridge

[@saadshams6654]

CF-98s are pretty common here in Pakistan, Good budget handguns.

[@FarazKhan-dy5nq]

@Dx Fire no i think you are talking about American teens

[@beijingbacon2389]

@Dx Fire good for self defense they're not white Americans after all ;)

[@beastman.330]

@Michael Srite what do you expect when the British invaded and took over 171countries ,a hand FULL of people in England isn't bad if you are part of the commonwealth family.

[@arsalaniftikhar5920]

@Dx Fire You are an ignorant buffoon Bitch you don't know squat about Pakistan

[@radjadawamindra697]

Of course it would be available in Pakistan, they are pretty much China's dudebro.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

The key difference between the PX4 and PA-15 rotating barrels is that the PA-15 does not have a locked breech, but has it's action delayed by the friction of the bullet travelling down the barrel to keep it "locked." You'll notice on a PA-15, as you pull the slide back, the barrel immediately rotates but does not travel rearward at all, whereas on the PX4, the barrel travels with the slide back a few millimeters before the two unlock. The CF-98 appears to function like the PX4.

[@Greentangle]

CF-98 bolt mechanism looks like AK-47’s.

[@user-lc5fw2hd8q]

Vickers,I think you can try qsz92g,it's an improved qsz 92,the magazine is more reliable,like the other guns.

[@rollrick6220]

92改有出口吗？

[@SpicySummer]

@@rollrick6220 也不是啥高精尖黑科技，应该能搞到。何况加拿大之类进口不少中国各种武器民用版，萝莉控总要先给点样品

[@xnopyt13]

辣味的夏天Sonic 美国九几年就禁止norinco的进口了，这92在美国极其稀有

[@specialtacticalsolutions5878]

I have fired more than 3000 rounds (both 5.8 and 9 mm version) on the 92 version, and there is huge common problem with the 92, which is the non-interchangability of the mags due to the design of the mag-- this means that the 92 works only fine when you use the orginal mags that came with the particular pistol; you can, however, use other 92 mags, but it will cause malfunctions (most commonly every fourth round). So, some SWAT units in China had bought Glock 19 instead... Some other units then went to the Chinese copy of Sig P226. The factory then re-designed the 92 pistol, and there is a newer version of it called 92G now, and it changes many features including the dual position feed. It is now argubly a better weapon, but... anyone in China that has fired Glock or CZ (as they are easier to be imported to China) will never go back to 92 unless they have no choice... P.S The 9mm version, when firing, the recoil makes you wonder if that is a .45 pistol...

[@monkeylee4818]

Fun fact. The actual Chinese service pistol that fires 5.8mm cartridges is different in its mechanism from the 9mm version, which is for police and export, despite the fact that both of them are called type 92 and looks identical from the outside.

[@OnafetsEnovap]

There is one way to differentiate the two - the 9mm version has a star on the grips, while the 5.8mm does not.

[@TheBillyReb]

I bet Ian at Forgotten Weapons would love to look at that pistol.

[@Jesses001]

6 months later, he just did, ha.

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

The wear on this one looks the same as the one Ian took apart

[@luobomu9747]

@@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts Sharp eyes. Judging from the serial number, it is the very same gun.

[@Buzzard-wq1bw]

Very interesting gun! Would love to see more Asian guns like this in the USA (there very interesting and seem very practical!) especially the South Korean rifles and pistols.

[@maximme]

yeah, and some Japs too. They should make pretty nice sniper rifles going by their precision manufacturing...

[@awsstudios]

Best coverage of a pistol, personal favorite And have tested it with a 1911 side by side and this gun can roar in the hands of a expert

[@awsstudios]

Thanks Larry and team! I love this gun and wish you'd show a custom version sometime, yes this may get hate for a comment but I sincerely have seen and raced this pistol and when properly managed this thing can keep up with the best

[@JalalKhan-ul4zq]

I have bought 28000 PKR back in 2006 & still using it. Its very good pistle

[@Musalman.279]

Hy I'm looking to get one soon maybe the tt or cf98,how many rounds did you fired on you cf98 ,did it gave you a problem??

[@alanOHALAN]

Love the super slow motion, watching the bullet in air, like in the Matrix!

[@Anino_Makata]

The sound the round makes as it travels through the air, too. Personally gives me goosebumps.

[@YoungGunsCanada]

In the Canadian Military, the CF-98 is the "Report of Injury, Disease or Illness" form for service personnel... I wanted one of these pistols just for that fact.

[@Hamsteak]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, I'm a CF Veteran and I kept thinking the same thing Canada 🇨🇦

[@generalfoxe]

Looking great, sir...what a beast.

[@saisayasith]

All these bad ass gun reviewers know so much about guns, great video though, I'm more interested in seeing rare or uncommon pistols.

[@Rizwankhan-zi5ec]

A best review so far on CF98.

[@aterry33]

I may be missing something here, but from the data I found the domestic military version (Type 92) has a service life of 3,000 rounds and the export version (CF-98) has a service life of 8,000 rounds. Does anyone have concrete data on this? Because I can't believe someone would manufacture a service pistol with a service life of 3,000 rounds.

[@alexandruianu8432]

Yes, barrels normally last way over the minimum advertised. That said, the 5.8 that the Chinese use is a lot faster and wears out barrels more quickly.

[@aterry33]

By service life, are they referring to the frame as well or just the barrels? Obviously you need to change out springs, etc., over the life of the pistol but generally speaking military service pistols tend to clock in with a 25,000+ round service life. I have a GLOCK that's probably tripled that with only spring changes.

[@seanlastnamehere2836]

I bet this Chinese thing is made in a norinco factory.

[@z1maass727]

Its true, the data come from a report of the Chinese Police, said the whole gun's service life is no more than 3000 rounds and the quality control "sucks"

[@DudeNumberOnePlus]

It is totally possible, either on purpose ("they wont shoot it much anyway, so lets make it as cheap as possible"), or by shit manufacturing/design - cracking frames and slides, poor or none heat treatment...

[@numarkaz]

Those slo mo shots are epic!

[@3ric585]

What's the genre of the background music? I love how tactical-operator it is.

[@Midfit9515]

Can we do a review of the IWI NEGEV

[@AXV22]

Ivanka Kushner this jew thing is outplayed, next.

[@seanlastnamehere2836]

the Jericho is a piece of crap. scratches if you even breath on it. btw the Jew bit never gets old.

[@Impulset0]

Sean Last Name Here my Jericho has seen thousands of rounds without so much as a scuff to the finish .....

[@thomasnguyen3323]

Derollepot kevin You are either very stupid or trolling.

[@MUSTAFA-GowR]

can you make apisod like that on "M82A1 barrett 50 Cal".

[@looooooooot432]

Tons of videos already out there...... they're not that interesting anyhow

[@davidli3582]

It's a damn shame that Chinese imports are banned.

[@Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte]

David Li only weapons..

[@stevemc6010]

*Canada

[@arcaneleaf4074]

No its not I'm thankful. Less crap✨

[@MwRYum]

If it'd make you feel better, actually the Chinese police force doesn't like it either (police use 9mm, military use 5.7mm), quailty and designs issues took time to expose - y'know, SWAT team do a lot shooting practice, impromptu torture test right there.

[@aaron4820]

He says, as he types on a Chinese made product.

[@clap5]

Looks like that slide is already in motion as the bullet is about to exit the barrel. Could be why it's shooting high.

[@BurnTheNuance]

ArmaRes Nice catch.

[@DudeNumberOnePlus]

Its rotation barrel lock, so no tipping of the barrel occurs at all. I shot and field stripped some norinco (not this one, the CZ75 knockoff), and the manufacturing is very crude/rough. It literally felt like chinese junkest tools, dragging and screeching like there was sand in it. Outside looks so-so, with sharp egges etc, but the inside is rough, and the tolerances are gross. I actually had to pry the slide stop (which also holds the barrel in frame) with a floor plate of the magazine, it was impossible to pull out by hand.

[@gyroscope4848]

ArmaRes this gun shooting pretty accurate. you just use your eyes to determine the bullet that was so funny.

[@AK-tn9bv]

Never thought someone like you or hickok45 fpsrussia will review that specific handgun ever. We do get these here some works great some don't very confusing track record this handgun has. Easy to disassemble and nightmare to reassemble. Please do review Viking mp446 and Chinese sig copies. Thanks

[@on2wheels378]

I saw Pakistani Officers with those pistol in South Asia in 08... I thought they were Sigs at a glance until I saw the plastic star on the grip.

[@szgcgelsoft9768]

Only Vickers Tactical can make such cool slow motion shots. Keep on going love your vids! And btw your not fat don't think of that.

[@liliwinnt6]

btw, if you have a chance of making contact with a CS/LP5 aka CF07 or "NP42 mini pistol", please don't let the chance slip thru your grasp

[@Skaramine]

Not only is the slide stop in the same spot as the Beretta, but they took the whole look of the Beretta hammer!

[@muaazalee2773]

cf98 is one of the best pistols for HD and Duty Handgun its safety on frame is coolest feature and also in upward direction i love it

[@JCoActual]

Always found rotating barrel assemblies interesting!

[@stephen9869]

Please get your hands on a BRNO 7.5 !

[@sunshine.4164]

New video from uncle Larry? Sweet

[@teamhex]

Slide screams 1911, safety and slide release scream USP, and the grip makes me think of Tokrev(Probably just the star, since the shape isn't similar).

[@jonmcclane7433]

Fixing to light it up, L. A. V. style. God I love these videos!!! Thanks Larry!

[@shahrozekhurram9836]

Just wanted to let you know they changed the magazine design in the np42 that's like a 2nd gen cf98 with improved textured polymer and added a mil-std-1913 picatinny rail, they added a duel recoil spring in it as well. How would you rate this gun hows the reliability etc

[@kylesundell1554]

Vickers is simply the man.

[@asadhayatwarraich6188]

I read in its manual that safety pin should be used only when pistol's hammer is in cocked position. In interlocked or firing position of hammer, it has been recommended not to use the safety pin as the pin may break. What does it mean? Can you elaborate?

[@mtksbctk]

Shoots good, no malfunction, cant complain

[@davidelkins9894]

Review was a little bit light in the evaluation and comparison department.

[@richardespinoza6243]

Norinco’s are collectors items now since they are no longer allowed in the U.S

[@AlexNijv]

Another great video as usual!

[@b.griffin317]

Looks like a Tokarev and a Beretta had a child.

[@ilovemaplesyrup4828]

of course its the chinese all they do is copy

[@zayedadel8552]

@战争机器 by the way this one is 100% original no copying it was designed by china

[@horiaursulescu8439]

I really enjoy your videos !

[@pfootball6363]

I wish you could pull all of these super rare guns you get your hands on apart so we can see the insides. It's great for the gun function nerds like me

[@EjazZ]

I have baretta 92fs and cf 98. I preffer cf98 specially during in field duty. For most of it will be a strange comment but cf 98 gives me smooth result.

[@Lizardman1997]

I'd really like to see a video of the M1 Grand

[@danielmendieta6522]

Really enjoy watching these videos! Keep em coming

[@lifescience2050]

I just bought two, can't wait to try it. It's so affordable I can arm up my whole family and neighbours.

[@underhorse5367]

LMAO😂

[@noormuhammadkhan3051]

Buy for me then😂

[@waynedaley7048]

I'm thinking of buying one how was the single action trigger? 🇨🇦

[@ShahmeerNaqvi110]

I Am From Pakistan Buy Norinco CF-98 On Our Arm License 3 Times From 2015 To 2020 And Now My Plan Again Buy Used Norinco CF98 Is Reliable Handgun Or Budgeted Handgun My Experiences Was Good With Norinco CF98 I Have Compete In Local IDPA Matches On Compact Carry Pistol Division (CCP) Now In Pakistan Again Some Imports Firearms New CF-98 Changing Like Magazine Was Polymer With Baseplate But Old CF98 Is Trusted

[@hamimannn]

Which cam was used

[@pingqiu7318]

I like the slow motion , it's so cool, like seeing a movie

[@scottli7390]

will you ever get your hands on a norinco type 95 or 98 sir? big fan from Ireland

[@kumakuma3335]

Type 97 is the 556 version of type 95， I heared the ergonomics is bad.

[@MCG55555]

I think you mean the QSZ-92.

[@nocolo123]

THATS THE MILITARY NAME

[@EzraMerr]

Different variants.

[@grenmoyo3968]

QSZ-92 is the military name. Kind of like m9 or the beretta 92fs...its the same thing, with a few small changes.

[@armespassiontir]

Bonjour, merci pour cette présentation un pistolet que je ne connaissais pas.

[@apocalypse1175]

Great stuff.

[@zarakikenpachi122]

I have used it very reliable,smooth and an economical 👌

[@ajayanjaanlama]

Watching from Nepal 🇳🇵

[@AfzaalWardag]

Which cam did u use to record this vid ?

[@ahmadfazaramay9541]

I was watching CF 98 review on Pervaiz Awan channel. He shows 2 CF 98 pistol and there body was damaged badly after 4000 rounds. Does it happen to most of cf98? Inner mechanism got separated from the body.

[@buskuzbass1861]

In its design and construction, it is very much reminiscent of the Russian MP-446 Viking; it even has a magazine of a very similar design, with a double-row neck. Only instead of a short barrel stroke with a skew, as on the Browning, a rotary barrel is used here. Therefore, it would be quite appropriate to think that our Russian pistol was the prototype of this type of weapon. По своим дизайну и конструкции он очень напоминает российский МР-446 «Викинг»; у него даже магазин очень схожей конструкции, с двухрядной горловиной. Только вместо короткого хода ствола с перекосом, как на Браунинге, здесь использован поворотный ствол. Поэтому вполне уместно было бы думать, что прототипом данного вида оружия стал именно наш российский пистолет.

[@tommygun6028]

where are YOU VICKER .......

[@therealone6265]

please make video on INDIAN - JVPC Carbine...

[@oghuzkhan6136]

Can you examine Mpt 76 assault rifle? It's a new weapon builded for Turkish army. And it's a great weapon. Im looking for it

[@michaelgfyau4514]

I think the original version is 5.8mm not 9mm. It means this gun actually designed for 5.8mm.

[@shahrozekhurram9836]

I can't thank you enough for this I have been looking around for this since long Cheers mate

[@basshunterdota625]

Nice camera work

[@wyattsullivan3565]

It looks like it needs a heavier recoil spring in the slow mo.

[@mackjiang8057]

Good point. I had same concerns when I tried to deconstruct one in Canadian. The spring is not like M9 but a much thinner one

[@DesiJugaarDIY]

Vickers analysis are serious, should be taken serious , even Norinco company should take note of his criticism and likeness so they can improve it.

[@user-yi9ls5uf3v]

QSZ-92G-9mm&5.8mm ,This is the best version, the CF-98 is Old version of 1995

[@fahadjassim7469]

I have CF 98 it's very good pistol based on my experience.

[@asdefender7610]

Can you video the T91?

[@j0ser1]

Thank you for bringing another awesome video to a rare/unique pistol! Keep it up!

[@RealMrSoloDolo]

I thought cf 98 was a form you fill out if you got injured during service?

[@MOMOMOMOMOMOMOMOM]

Nice recoil control， coz this pistol is kick

[@tam6051]

It's reliable and works well. Honestly, Jackie Chans make a lot of good weapons, especially their cartridges, which is my favorite 👍🏻

[@vincentbao1695]

Since when we the Chinese being called Jackie Chan instead of Fu Manchu

[@tam6051]

well, then cheers Fu Manchus people 🍻 I learned something today

[@nightwing.3378]

Can you make a video of the Danish army main rifle M/10

[@jpat2493]

Larry didn't the VP70 have similar magazine design?

[@texturk6092]

Are you ever gonna do a video on the MPT 76

[@mohammedalshargabi5543]

Which one is better sir is Sar 9 turkey or np42 norinco

[@CaptainGrief66]

Basically the bastard child of a An italian M92/PX4, a Russian GsH-18 and a Soviet PM Makarov. Apparently the actual military Type 92 has a service life of 3000 rounds, heh.

[@2TomDog]

My CF-98 does not have slots on the side of the magazine, so they must have realized it was a problem and changed it.

[@yq356]

Is this the original version of PLA?

[@amazai84]

I like the slowmo

[@SkWazir-oq9yw]

Çf 98 vs np 22 which one is the best

[@akremramadan3223]

Thanks Pro ...

[@tafino]

How did that make it in to the US??

[@rauchyrustyrails]

Is it any good Larry I can shoot stuff in SLO mo to make anything look cool just on a buying spree and wanna know if it's worth the 280 Canadian in American terms 50 bucks

[@kniter]

Help me Larry! My magazine wont release!

[@IrradiatedLimes]

Laaaaare. Haaaalp. #BeatTHOT

[@hitman3495]

Put wd40

[@Cwhandle]

Can you do a review on the FK BRNO ?!?!?!?!?!

[@johnyricco1220]

Double column feed may make it fairly tolerant of dirt in the magazine.

[@vinzalarms5079]

Pretty cool

[@stephonlee40]

people compare 92 with glock or cz never mensioned the price. one glock or cz cost 3 cf 98

[@chavezchavo]

As an Asian myself, I'd rather use an American or European gun.

[@ChrisPKreme-lj2xq]

Do you think you could check out a Howa Type 89

[@beastman.330]

Your video's are bad ass.

[@antisuicide3032]

hmm not bad if there is night vision sights and rail might be useful

[@gabrieldobrichkov8989]

None for sale in the US currently…

[@chef7658]

Are you surprised?