Chinese E-Bikes are Exploding like Crazy - Self Destructing Spectacularly

[@serpentza]

The damage done to the environment in the name of China's lust for being a "Green Technology" leader is astounding! Thank you so much to all of you for watching my videos, we're actually making a change! Stay Awesome and a massive thank you to Ekster for sponsoring this video, grabb the most badass wallet in the world: shop.ekster.com/serpentza

[@lordzed83]

well this video is shitty time to unsub.

[@MuffHam]

Are lithium based solar generators also a problem. ?

[@gegwen7440]

Since you left China you should change your channel name to reflect your hatred of the place that is clear in all your vids.

[@praetorian3902]

What I don't understand is why is the Chinese government trying to look green or trying to change how the world perceives it ? As soon as they go to war with Taiwan the entire world is gonna hate them, just like with Russia. So why bother with all the "See ? China is great" propaganda they put out.

[@LuigianoMariano]

What do China and Russia have in common? Cheaping out and giving someone else the bill on a defective product.

[@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704]

I work at an institute that is one of the UK's leading Li battery research departments. There is an isolated Battery Abuse lab and twice in the past three months I've been glad for its thick walls and fume-venting baffles and hoods when the batteries explode.

[@ljiljanajovic7581]

​@jin-outdo not buy them, so you will have no problems.

[@jayhill2193]

he was asking the lab guy or do you suggest they stop researching these things?@@ljiljanajovic7581

[@blackmanta96]

​@ljiljanajovic7581 do you own a smartphone ?

[@vasiliyt8600]

And Europe wants from 2035 to sell only Electric vehicles... ☠

[@FungeHucker]

​​@@blackmanta96 while lithium batteries are more prone to exploding than others, it's the size and power-draw of these larger batteries than increases the risk. Especially when cheaply made.

[@johnxina987]

The Chinese manufacturer's motto is, "As long as it looks good."

[@2st_duallist]

well said john china

[@Peter-cm8vi]

aka 差不多

[@Nameonly67]

Basically

[@gangzhang3901]

as long as I can make money:):) Sad

[@ThreeBeingOne]

Love the name

[@roguespartan345]

The saying : “This thing breaks down like a Chinese motorcycle” Has a new meaning now 😂

[@kimmer6]

At least it doesn't shake like a Mexican Space Shuttle.

[@KL-xj5vz]

@@kimmer6 Or Like an American airplane that flies straight into the ground.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

​@@KL-xj5vzhow's the air pollution in Beijing?

[@lukabaratashvili9538]

Winnie the pooh​@@KL-xj5vz

[@fishypaw]

My landlord added a clause to the lease recently banning electric bikes from his apartments. When I see the footage of them going on fire, I understand why. Those are some crazy battery fires. I fly remote helicopters. I've always stored the lithium batteries in a metal container, just to be safe.

[@langhamp8912]

I just store my electric scooters in my car as the car is insured.

[@manoz6194]

Where are you if I may ask?

[@JessicaMarinaRushie]

You can get proper fire bags... Good ones do work better than a tin.

[@haifutter4166]

In Germany we had many hoverboard-fires because during the hoverboard hype everyone bought these cheap chinese things. Now the public awareness catched up and import of poorly produced chinese eMobility-devices is strongly -overlooked- overseen and regulated.

[@bobbah676]

Get the bags that made for the battery.

[@JohnPaul-rf2wr]

I've been an electrical engineer for 30+ years and have worked in the design of Li-ion chargers and battery packs. There is significant cost and effort required to make Li-ion batteries safer, but they are still a tank of gas in a battery pack. The safety advice at the end of this video is excellent. Thanks Winston, you're awesome.

[@jamesmedina2062]

Can it be done? I just purchased a Li Ion starter battery that has a protection circuit supposedly. It's half the size of a lead acid. The brand name is Braille.

[@JohnPaul-rf2wr]

@@jamesmedina2062 Braille batteries use a lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) chemistry which is different from the lithium ion batteries that everyone is familiar with. LiFePO4 batteries are much more stable (safer). Having said that, the battery still contains a large amount of energy and you should follow all the manufacturers recommendations.

[@edwinov]

Now make sure to *stay* awesome.

[@TheSnowLeopard]

Why do manufacturers almost always choose the most flammable Li-ion technologies (cathodes containing cobalt and or manganese along with flammable electrolytes) when safer alternatives exist (LiFePO4)?

[@westelaudio943]

​@@TheSnowLeopard Because of higher capacity (less weight/more range), etc.

[@khukri_wielderxxx1962]

When I was a kid all we had to worry about on our bikes was falling off. How times have changed

[@talisupremacy7176]

You still still experience that. Just buy a normal bike, fueled by human food. 😉

[@manoz6194]

​@@talisupremacy7176some of us are old and injured lol

[@paulsto6516]

And keeping the playing card properly aligned with the spokes.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

Now you can be worried about being burned alive...on a bike... Indeed, where has this world come to...

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

@@talisupremacy7176 Are you nuts? expend my own energy? You must be joking.

[@Guildofarcanelore]

I lived in China in 2017. My favourite student bought a little electronic car. It was little more than a glorified golf cart. It cost her 7000 rmb, about a months salary. She loved that little car. It had twice the range of the old ebike she had and could drive from Huishan to Binhu and back in a single charge. She drove it like a tank, even though it was just fibreglass and plastic. One day the local government showed up and loaded her car on a flatbed, with all the other similar cars and just stole it. The police decided they were illegal, confiscated it and left. No paperwork, no process just I have a badge and I’m taking your stuff. She went back to riding her old ebike which was unsafe. For her birthday I bought her a brand new ebike, about 4000rmb IIRC the only condition I had was that she could not use her old bike, as in “don’t give it to your son to use”. I don’t think people understand China. There is no regulations, that you can’t buy your way around. There is no due process, the law is whatever the police decide to enforce. The only saving grace is they generally are only concerned with harmony. Not safety, not legality.. just harmony and face.

[@jacobh9487]

Harmony = no troubles or troublemakers.

[@MissionaryForMexico]

Mostly stupidity not harmony!

[@Guildofarcanelore]

@@jacobh9487 exactly. What’s the phrase they like? Picking quarrels.

[@matthewgibbs6886]

mmm still a communist country that hasn't changed

[@robinwells8879]

The old communist Soviet Union never published its criminal code for people to see what was actually legal and what wasn’t. I think that it helps provide a state of paranoia and uncertainty amongst the citizens. It’s a for of crushing oppression that tramples the soul.

[@popodood]

I am surprised 2 guys found working extinguishers in one of those clips. Main problem with battery fires is you can't turn off a battery and it has a ton of energy stored in it. Imagine a fuel fire and fuel keeps pouring in, you can't stop the fuel source... same with a battery, you can't stop the fuel source of that energy

[@Mark-op7hd]

EVEN IF YOU COULD TUN IT OFF IT MAKES NO DIFFERANCE

[@TheWctman]

I was in Myanmar during covid in 2020, and went to a shop to rent a motorbike for a day. The vendor had lots of bikes to offer, since there was virtually no business. He led me directly to a gas powered Honda, expressing that he had made a huge mistake by buying "Chinese shyte" that were downright dangerous to drive in reference to the chinese ebikes. No regrets, that honda was a terrific little bike.

[@Hexighost]

yep, since the nanny country australia decided all quad bikes need roll bars, all the good makers pulled out, wasn;t worth it to them as we're only 5 percent of their market and now we can only get these cheap chinese shyte bikes that break in 5 seconds

[@WinWin-oo4uk]

​@@Hexighost Australia is a hell hole. You guys have no freedom.

[@Keepone974]

Same comments in Indonesia (Nusa Lembongan). "Chinese bikes just break, Japanese bikes are much higher quality".

[@jonathanbaron-crangle5093]

Honda make some awesome bikes: Best to rent in South-east Asia would be the Honda Bros 400 V-twin

[@welshpete12]

Quad bikes should be banned, a famous comedy actor in the UK . Broke his back in a accident with one of these . We had two for pulling gliders . We stopped using them they were so dangerous ! @@Hexighost

[@jayjaynella4539]

I worked at a family entertainment business that used Li battery for the laser power. The owner put that display up for sale. A real estate agent showed a customer the place and left the battery charger circuit on, where the owner shut off power every night. Later that night, the shop caught fire. Totally wiped out, few stuff left salvageable. 22 years of his family's life wiped out due to a faulty Ever ready Li battery.

[@NoName-dd5vq]

22 years and he didnt have insurance to cover the damages and lost?

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@NoName-dd5vq It’s the only way that the story works.

[@SoY_7]

​@@neilkurzman4907story needs to work for us poor people unless you help with insurance?

[@RandomDudeOne]

Chinese E-Bikes aren't exploding, they are rocket powered.

[@ronelconci817]

yap lots of bombs inside

[@kikodang393]

Lol😅😂😮

[@KarışıkTost1905]

💀

[@AMabud-lv7hy]

Stupid westerners don't realize the effectiveness of rocket bikes, their ability to reduce traffic jams by letting the rider fly above the road or towards heaven

[@mr787takium9]

It was meant to be a Trojan horse for the west.

[@thechosenone2587]

I love this segment. And true in fact. I almost bought an ebike for my kid for his school transport but I noticed little videos of ebikes on fire including escooters. Watched more during the days and finally decided to just buy my kid a foldable bicycle. And then I ended up on this video. Great work. The honest hidden truth. They are keeping it a secret. Lithium-ion batteries are very dangerous. Fantastic episode.

[@8_x_9.]

Those escooters were not UL CERTIFIED like in the USA or Canada.

[@gijoe6529]

Right... I don't buy Tesla too cause I also heard a lot of news about those Tesla or explode too.

[@KrisISDoinYourMOM]

@@gijoe6529 i see planes crash all the time on the news, am i gonna stop flying? i see cars get into nasty high speed wreaks all the time online, am i gonna stop driving my car? i see cheap Chinese ebikes explode all the time, am i gonna stop riding my sick 50mph+ ebike i got off aliexpress?

[@tn18977]

Mine has lead acid batteries, much better for peace of mind.

[@DanielEvans-z4l]

I domt go outside incase it rains

[@rogerfilerable]

A word of advice: NEVER get into the lift with someone else holding an ebike. Zero chance to escape.

[@ashchaya7676]

This should be pinned.

[@JaSon-wc4pn]

Always charge during the day too. To keep an eye on it. Don't do it overnight. Less time to react

[@Bass_attack7755]

​@@phillipbanes5484we have enough laws thank you.

[@Rutherford_Inchworm_III]

In fairness, they don't usually explode just being carried around. A more effective safety plan would be to not stay at an apartment complex that allows the residents to charge their e-bikes outside the entrances. That is a recipe for disaster. I have seen some with every entrance having multiple charging E-bikes outside (right in the escape path, of course).

[@Greg-m6v]

More word of advice more people die in a lift than a lift with an ebike in it this chap is a class act wanker.

[@davidmachemer1015]

"If those batteries are not properly controlled...if they're not properly maintained and looked after..." That quote perfectly describes what China is abysmal at. Anything to do with professional documentation or maintenance is hopeless in China.

[@nwerd7584]

even still user error is the basis of many cases across the board. Most these things other than chips come from china and are put in to other products, like those samsung phones, they were chinese cells. And stories of vapes exploding were often using cords not approved, those batteries get hot from charging regardless.

[@andrewcoulter525]

I guess they just steal the manufacturing plans but not the service manuals. 🙂

[@johnhoward5954]

Never buy anything Made in China. Hell, most stuff are Made in China.

[@MAGGOT_VOMIT]

If you see a Chinese Coke......RUN!! For decades Chinese put pee-pee in your Coke. {-_-}

[@mr.fission2238]

China = Jawas (Star Wars)

[@zachbecklake2303]

glad to see electric technology is saving the environment

[@smefour]

If only they were built and used well, they might

[@wojtekstach78]

Hahahaha goodone

[@novacolonel5287]

It can. Most technologies pose risks if engineering and quality control are lacking. The famous german TÜV was founded to properly control steam containers for locomotives. Up to that point, they kept blowing up due to lack of regulation and poor quality. These days they don't. Electric is vastly superior in terms of effiency and the way to, it just needs to be prone to proper legislation.

[@jogennotsuki]

@@novacolonel5287 get lost... there's no place on youtube for people like you, with your rational, sensible and factually correct responses.

[@deangregoric4735]

what are you trying to say that because some exploding bike that just happen to be exploding is all of sudden worse than machine that was created in 1800s that emits poisonous gases whenever it runs?

[@kool361x]

This is a great video. As an ebike rider I can see where this could become a problem in the U.S.. Fortunately there are very reputable manufacturers here. Powerful Lithium comes to mind.

[@aquickfoo4256]

Do you think the Ridstar q20 pro ebike is reliable?

[@thorlancaster5641]

All it takes is a speck of conductive dust to pierce the micron-thin separator in these batteries. Once that happens, the positive and negative electrodes weld themselves together, and the cell shorts. Current from other cells in the pack also rushes into the failed cell. It's like having a bottle of oxygen inside your gas tank.

[@AndyDrake-FOOKYT]

Water also reacts violently with lithium causing it to explode...so applications where a cheap, poorly sealed battery may be exposed to a damp/humid environment are risky. Not to mention seeing people drive them through rain storms and standing water.

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

@@AndyDrake-FOOKYT - Which is precisely why when they leave these fields of e-Bikes outside exposed to rain and humidity, you get these massive fires shown in the video. Water obviously contains a large amount of Oxygen.

[@ChristabellaH]

Sounds fun.

[@SevgilimTurkiyem]

​@@ChristabellaHyeah it's very funny

[@ksd593]

fan fact. chinese ebike parts, including batteries, have saved me maybe 20k over the past decade in commute costs. though i do agree, buy a battery with quality cells and proper bms'.

[@FeeNixBeech]

The problem is "lithium creep". Improperly built lithium batteries short themselves out over time. It was a brief issue in the US, but we started building carbon blocks in lithium batteries to prevent this. Makes the batteries slightly more expensive though, which is probably why cheap ones go boom.

[@trentonking8054]

ok basketball men

[@bj6469]

Sure but what if even these well built batteries starts to barbecue you 15 years down the road?

[@lusa3002]

Lithium batteries always end burning that's their curse.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

We are still seeing cases of parked electric vehicles spontaneously combusting in the West, even despite not being Chinese brands. The larger LI batteries for cars are still not safe.

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

@@bj6469by the time it's 15 years old, it'll have 0% remaining capacity anyway. hell... it'll probably have lost a big chunk of its capacity by the time it reaches 5 years already, to the point of being useless... (phone that doesn't even last half a day, scooter that covers no useful distance anymore, etc.)

[@alfredocornelio4329]

I always remember this quote by Jackie Chan I once read in an article from a 2009 Variety magazine: "Chan also attacked Chinese goods, saying they had too many quality problems. Last year, contaminated milk powder killed a number of children and made thousands sick in China. “If I need to buy a TV, I'll definitely buy a Japanese TV. A Chinese TV might explode,”

[@conniead5206]

Did they do that again? Or did they never stop? At least 300,000 Chinese babies were permanently damage by milk producers putting the stuff used to make melamine dishes in baby formula. And in grain they sold overseas. That got into our pet food and some of our food products. Since then they have people in other countries, especially Australia, who make big money buy up all the non-Chinese brands of baby formula they can get their hands on and selling it in China. Australian moms found they often couldn’t get formula. The government put limits on how many containers that could be bought at one time. That didn’t work at all. I do not know if Australia came up with something that worked. Oh, those “people” also buy branded goods in small enough quantities to ship and avoid tariffs. They also bought up lots of masks and hand sanitizer at the beginning of Covid. Lots. There is a word they call these people, but I forget.

[@smatchimo55]

jackie chan hates everyone pretty equally..

[@ffs6158]

That explains why you don't see him anymore

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@smatchimo55 I can't blame him. The older you get the more of humanity's nasty side you see.

[@runnergo1398]

@yvonq.9346 Becoming rich changed him. I know because I was a fan before he became popular and watched his personality change.

[@MAX96MENDES]

Your news are always an eye-opener and interesting. Thank you

[@loganstroganoff1284]

Ive never been afraid of flying but ever since the advent of so many electronic devices that may have chinese batteries in them i actually worry about fires breaking out in the luggage crates.

[@artomarto679]

Thanks for sharing 😮now I'm worried about flying

[@the_mowron]

@@SageLynxx The point is that lithium ion batteries are present in a multitude of devices that might be found in the checked baggage, not just scooters and hoverboards.

[@AniviaS]

That's why you are only allowed to bring 100wh or smaller batteries on a plane. And the airlines actually enforce that pretty strictly

[@manoz6194]

Remember the Note 7 lol

[@cogit8able]

@@the_mowronyou aren’t allowed to have them in your carry on.

[@johnlibonati7807]

“I’m not trying to be a fearmonger, but you might burst into flames at any second.” This is definitely my new favorite channel. 😂

[@pbase36]

Out of context, it's an awesome phrase to say to someone!

[@icsg7287]

I'm keeping it 😂

[@EyeSeeThruYou]

😂😂😂😂

[@nickforsythe6379]

This man would be great for reading 1984 aloud.

[@-Devy-]

I can't be bothered to go back and look it up but I'm pretty sure that's not even what he said. It's also not fearmongering if the risk is real. But I wouldn't want to ruin your attempt at being funny.

[@Toggymok]

This brings 'planned obsolescence' to a whole new level.

[@F8Tributo]

This proves that constructive criticism isn't synonymous with hate speech. Good job, Winston! 👍

[@EyeSeeThruYou]

💯

[@tonysofla]

america - What they don't show you - TRUE STORY |

[@HimmelsDaemon]

Negatives are extremely difficult to begin with, let alone to prove a negative for a vague, arbitrary, and undefinable term/notion. It'd be better to not accept or validate such a false premise, (an arbitrary diktat not a well-defined concept) though even the concept being self contradictory is not enough for people to understand -- with belief that words/sounds are inherently hate, that you can intuitively intent and that intent is inherent, and even not understanding that love/hate are explicitly the same emotion of different context not opposites or inverse as they can be mixed up and intermingled because of such context and circumstance, etc. Or take the example that bares repeating; the ruling state is not the people, the CCP is not Chinese individuals nor ethnic approximate, and so on...

[@lordautist759]

You needed that proved?

[@cosettapessa6417]

@@HimmelsDaemonstop doing drugs

[@Tommo020788]

I think the most common issue with these would be that they are adding a circuit that allows for "super fast charging", but they are not adding anything to counteract the heat that comes with that "super fast charging". Lithium Ion batteries can get really hot. Especially the ones they would have used in scooters (higher amperage ones). The batteries get damaged over time from the lack of thermal protection, and then one day they go boom. They might appear to work fine at first, but eventually, without proper thermal protection, its not gonna be good.

[@kn-qz7by]

I would not want an ebike that did not come with an automatic shut-off to prevent overcharging. I find it significant that very very few of the ebikes I've browsed on Amazon say anything about their having overcharging protection to prevent fires.

[@peterkiss1204]

It's not just the lack of battery protection, but the fact they use lithium ion cells instead of lithium iron phosphate that is industry standard in electric vehicles long ago.

[@ArtisChronicles]

​​@@kn-qz7by yeah that's something that also scares me. Strange that they don't have overcharge protection. It's been a known issue for ages.

[@TheDkb427]

A inline fuse would go a long way but I imagine those bikes are blowing up from the batteries being built wrong or connecting internally and boom.

[@TheDkb427]

@@peterkiss1204 think I read iron battery doesn't heat up like lithium ion as it's more stable

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

Im actually an Industrial Quality Analyst by trade, I love these videos and studying what's going on in China. I cannot find one single example of an authoritarian state that doesn't have a problem with quality. It's ultimately more like a religious problem than an economic or political problem. What I mean is when the state is treated like some kind of god on earth, people stop caring and do the bare minimum, serving others is not a priority in the slightest. They define quality as conformance to specifications, and they cheat and take shortcuts to achieve those specifications, which get warped and altered as well. While in Japan for example, quality is defined as how well something serves and increases the well-being of the customer or recipient.

[@ComentaristaComún3414]

you hit the nail there!

[@alandavies55]

True, over the years, I have have had several Ural motorcycles. The communist era ones were cheap, but quality control was non existent, I bought one cheap from a UK dealer that turned out to have some ones lunch wrappers in the crankcase. After the collapse of communism quality improved by leaps and bounds, unfortunately so did the price.

[@jayjaynella4539]

And the chinese do not hesitate to lie about safety. I saw that numerous times as an industrial chemist working with the chinese.

[@AntiMullahs]

Exactly problem in Iran is religious thieves mullahs who are also murderers

[@MrSmegfish]

Ever read Zen and the art of Motorcycle maintenance ?

[@shimizukebin]

When you address the problem of countries especially a country like China everybody starts to hate you. But at least it’s great that your channel is helping to improve people’s daily life in China!

[@Comm0ut]

"Everybody" is really mostly CCP shills who are either nationalists or paid troll farms.

[@joeword7304]

That’s not happening dude - 😂

[@joeword7304]

“Daily lives” are not being improved by this channel; you’re just finding out. Action must be taken…..

[@shimizukebin]

That is up to the Chinese People against their Winnie the pooh regime :/@@joeword7304

[@PubRunner]

Considering Tesla’s are banned in many parts of China because of concern that they are spying, you should do an episode on the data that is collected and stored and shared by the various EV manufacturers. Apparently the Chinese EV manufacturers collect a lot more data than others.

[@shadowjewel]

Ah, classic CCP projection.

[@JohnHudert1]

@@shadowjewel- that’s why we’d like to see some real reporting

[@PubRunner]

@@shadowjewel if they are concerned that teslas are spying then in my books there is a better than average chance the CCP are doing exactly that with some Chinese built EVs. Also there have been reports of Chinese manufactured EVs sending back way more data than they need too. Plus I have personally tested GPS trackers that send tracking data to two servers our servers and a server in China. I got ghosted by the manufacturer when I asked why. We didn’t buy them and sent them straight to e-waste.

[@DVaz-v6k]

Thats not why...its so they can sell their own product. Its like how Canada controls its milk. By using a mafia.

[@waNErBOY]

China does not spy on you more than the NSA does.

[@MrMacavity]

I remember once buying a rechargeable cheap toy helicopter from a company over the internet, it was apparently made in China. Everything was fine the first hours, then I plugged it into a wall socket to recharge it. One hour later I heard a big BANG 💥 from the other room, ran over to see the thing had EXPLODED and started a fire next to the socket + into the wall. I ran back to grab a fire-extinguisher, and put out the fire with only minor burn damage and a bruised ego as a result. Lesson to the learned; do NOT trust anything from China that uses recharge/power. It's not worth it. Now imagine if this had been a larger thing like an E-Bike or whatever... or if I had not been at home at the time, or asleep. 😲

[@Kevin-v2v2h]

Don't blame China but the western company who forced Chinese manufacturer to respect their specs for the product. Most of the time it is western company fault bc they want the goods to be produced for 10c piece, and forced the manufacturer to choose lower quality material.

[@cesarehipthenhopthenhip8377]

​@@Kevin-v2v2hhe wanted to buy no bomb c'mon idiot 😂

[@AKATenn]

@@Kevin-v2v2h and a moral, responsible china, would say no, and not make the products, instead of blame it on someone else when they sell dangerous products they produced. if they can't make the product quality good enough, then they can't make the product, and should tell the western companies no, that would be the responsible thing to do.

[@Kevin-v2v2h]

​@@AKATenn It is funny when western or anti china people use also the morale card. You are the first to say you need to do anything to be able to feed your family. Period. Chinese manufacturer can make the safest and best product, sometimes it only requires a few cents more. But western company forced them to not do It as they want the lowest cost possible.

[@Kevin-v2v2h]

​@@AKATenn And last. the end of this chain is the consumer, so with your logic, it is not the Western Company who ordered and force the criteria for the item, not the manufacture who need to respect the criteria, in the end it is the consumer fault, to buy a 2$ item instead of paying 10$. Consumer moral and intelligence should made them not buy a good that cost 2$ which should normally cost 10$. But it is easier to blame Asian and not go to the western company who send the specs.

[@DoomsdayMayBeOkay]

BYD cars are now being sold in my country, the commercials are so disgusting. People have no idea of the ticking time bombs they are buying. Very sad to see...

[@fara.r.8181]

How about Geely?

[@frankreynolds9930]

BYD are one of the biggest ev makers in the world.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@frankreynolds9930 Doesnt make it better. Do you still remember toyota airbag disaster?

[@travelguy78]

Blade batteries are LFP based. This is not the same kind of batteries that explodes. Thermal runaway is not a problem

[@frankreynolds9930]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Its infinitely better than no name company. Lots of negative PR if issue comes for big companies so they will work hard to fix it if pressured.

[@zsewqthewolf1194]

china: "lets not look poor by banning bikes!" meanwhile finland: "we have bikes and make it bike fridly and we are rich as fuck!"

[@stephenconnors7380]

Chinese ebikes are bursting onto the scene.

[@stephenphillips6245]

Invest now !...before they are all gone. .LoL

[@tablab165]

I loved my e-bikes in Chengdu - favorite mode of transportation in my whole life. One of the biggest disappointments for me toward the end of China’s foreigner tolerance period (I left China in 2019) was the arbitrary crackdown on e-bikes and basically being interviewed by gate guards at the apartment complexes of the students I was tutoring. Whatever independent charm that life once had was gone.

[@anb2456]

Foreigner Tolerance Period (FTP) - love it! I think the FTP ended in 2016 when Americans started waking up to the China threat, and Trump began the trade war. I believe China's ridiculous wolf warrior policy emerged from this time

[@nullbubble791]

Chinese craftsmanship is lit

[@L3_FR]

Up

[@lusa3002]

this happens even on the good quality batteries the only difference is that good batteries are long lasting but at the end those always fail and burn... it's like a curse for this things.

[@LloydsofRochester]

😂😂😂

[@chrishenniker5944]

That’s a good one, thanks for your sarcastic response. It’s the best laugh I’ve had this morning.

[@vanplague13]

That smoke does wonders for the climate

[@juan833blue]

And not in a good way unfortunately.

[@glenorpheus]

I work for a company in China that sell and produce e-bikes worldwide. However we only use high quality battery cells, either branded Samsung or LG. Our customers often complain about the price of the batteries. Which then leads some of them to seek out cheaper alternatives. We try to tell people of the dangers, but saving £200 or more on a battery seems to be their priority. Thankfully I've not heard of a single fire from our batteries, but if the user somehow damages the battery, then it has a much greater risk of catching fire. To be honest I find that around 80% of people that buy E-Bikes have no idea about how to care for their bike, let alone want to learn of have an understanding of the electrics, and I feel this is the greater problem.

[@stevemcgowen]

China is more than capable of producing high quality goods, but it comes down to how much the company is willing to spend and their price point. There's often quite a difference in quality between goods made for export and goods made for the domestic Chinese market...

[@Phiyedough]

This is the thing about having this technology in vehicles. Nobody plans to crash their bike / car or whatever but accidents happen and components get damaged.

[@Mattsta2010]

Never had any problems with my Xiao Niu e-bike, but then again it cost 9000 RMB and a new battery is 4000 RMB.

[@glenorpheus]

@@Phiyedough Agreed, but people need to be aware of what to do if they suspect its been damaged. Knowledge is key to having a safer life.

[@germansnowman]

I fly radio-controlled models. They use Li-Ion batteries as well. I have a specialized box (BatSafe) in which I store and charge the batteries, and I use a smart charger at 1x charging speed. Takes more time but is much safer. Also, never discharge these batteries all the way; if you have to store them long term, it is best done at 50 % capacity.

[@maasicas]

Nothing beats an ACTUAL wallet. Cash is king.

[@TJCID22]

Fuck yeah!

[@carpelunam]

I disagree Id rather have an appreciating asset then a wallet full of cash being diminished by inflation

[@AMabud-lv7hy]

​@@carpelunamAnother unwashed illiterate who doesn’t under the difference between current asset and long-term asset

[@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA943]

@@AMabud-lv7hy ''under'' what difference? Care to explain?

[@Moshimulations]

well, these bikes do seem to be eating both cash and your assets if not properly cared for. Ebikes are actually very expensive and I would state that they are good for what you might be using it for. Personally it is really sad seeing these videos since I have an Ebike myself and it hurts to see that these expensive devices are really exploding.

[@stankygeorge]

The old Chines adage: "if you can cheat, then cheat"! So, so have the Chinese been cheating with ingredients of the batteries, or, is it Big Oil.

[@TheColinputer]

I think in general people need to do an audit of all the forgotten lithium batteries in their homes. Old phones, cameras, game controllers, powerbanks, wireless mice, random crappy IOT things etc. SO MANY things have lithium batteries in them. And even a tiny battery in something can burn your house down if it goes up. Will easily burn for long enough to catch plastic or whatever is around it on fire.

[@katherineirving7189]

👍👍👍🥰

[@jean-clauderost7610]

toutes les batteries sont instables, qu'elles soient au lithium ou autres matière ne change rien. Les batteries salines explosaient aussi.

[@theRPGmaster]

True, Li-ion is scary. Bring me back to the days of NiCD cells. They require special care, but they don't randomly create an inextinguishable inferno.

[@TheColinputer]

@@theRPGmaster Yeah memory effect wasnt fun! And infact i blame the way a lot of older people treat their modern batteries on nicd. Many people still fully discharge their phone etc thinking its better for the battery when its one of the things you want to avoid. Just do a full discharge here and there to keep the battery meter calibrated.

[@StefanCreates]

@@jean-clauderost7610 a french person will always refuse to speak english, even under an english video with english comments 🙂

[@NoOneToNoOne89]

You guys should plug your independent channels more in The China Show

[@ldawg7117]

Agreed, I actually just found this channel maybe 5 months ago. Immediately became addicted and was binging videos. Had absolutely no idea either of them had their own channel until it just showed up in my feed one day..maybe a month back. I'm sure many of their viewers have been viewers for a long time, here, and on their sperate channels.. but as a newcomer, I had no idea.. would have been subscribed to both the same time I did this channel, if I had known.. I'm sure there's plenty more people out there like me.

[@rockyroad7345]

Don't forget CHINA FACT CHASERS for a quick topic related video by both Winston and Matt!!!

[@michaelhaney4314]

China has them blocked ,just before he and cmilk left China ...

[@Lapsontheboy]

@@ldawg7117 China observer and china insight, are really good channels

[@Upsideround]

I miss their old car channel.

[@MrJarrod]

As someone who flies Drones . Battery care is extremely important . I saw this coming hot or stressed batteries = TNT.

[@larrymoffitt2386]

I've been to China several times since 1986, but I don't speak Mandarin and I have not been back for 20 years. But I have enough knowledge to know your reporting is spot-on. I subscribed with a bell and I look forward to all your stories. And you know, he really does have an amazing and uncanny resemblance to Winnie the Poo. Twins separated at birth.

[@kragf1802]

I live on the east coast of the United States. About a month ago my wonderful girlfriend took me on a cruise to the Bahamas. I’ve known for a long time that we’ve got it good in the United States. We visited Nassau on one of the stops. That was the first time that I have been out of the US. We did an excursion that wasn’t sanctioned by Carnival Cruiselines. I was legit concerned on making it back to port safely. Your videos and actually visiting another country in person has really brought things to light for me. I wish everyone could know the discomfort and fear that I felt. My lovely girlfriend didn’t understand the risk that we had put ourselves to. That life is something that an untold number of people cannot escape from. We are complacent in our blessings. God bless you all. Thanks for your work, SerpentZA.

[@peteroliver-ml1so]

What on earth are you babbling on about??

[@InimitaPaul]

We had a mother and her two children die in their home here in the UK a month or so back because one of these Chinese e-bikes was left on charge overnight, the bike was in the hallway so they wouldn’t have been able to get out but they didn’t even get the chance to try due to smoke inhalation. If you have to charge these things overnight just don’t buy it.

[@owenpancoast1163]

Don’t worry y’all, this is just them demonstrating the state of their economy for us👌👌

[@PumpkinHoard]

Their economy is in a much better state than ours. Zero debt, manufacturing half or more of the Wests goods, massive reserves of foreign currencies.... They are in MUCH better shape than us.

[@xephael3485]

Coming to a town near you...

[@loadingnewads]

lol just a new way for some people to cheat to themselves

[@EyeSeeThruYou]

😂 💯 😅 💯

[@iggyharl5780]

I'm pretty sure the Chinese economy is booming right now. Their influence is absolutely spreading and they probably have more swing these days than the US.

[@clarebutterfield6927]

Thank you for letting us know about how China is destroying themselves!

[@howardmaryon]

A few christmases ago, the top selling kids toy were “hoverboards”, the two wheeled skateboard but sideways contraptions that caused so many show-off adults to turn up at hospital with head and back injuries between christmas and the new year. These all had lithium batteries, and the social media channels were full of videos of kids screaming and running away from the two-wheeled inferno they had just been standing on.

[@bentullett6068]

I remember there was a recall regarding those hover boards setting fire when they first came out here in the UK.

[@stephensackreiter8269]

It’s awesome how much your channel is growing! Nobody is talking about the issues you cover. Keep it up! Cheers from 🇺🇸

[@hartley1207]

saying anything bad about china will grow in the west. remember it was the catholics that started propaganda. 🤣

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

The scariest thing about Lithium battery fire is: It can´t be put out easily. You literally need to bury it in sand or dirt, completely severing any access to air. Possible to do with your phone, harder to do with an e-bike and almost impossible to do with cars/busses/whatever else big.

[@Zircon10]

With reactive metals like lithium, sodium, magnesium, titanium, once they are on fire water or CO2 are dissociated by the intense 5000F heat. In the case of water that means more oxygen available to oxidize the metal fuel and hydrogen liberated to react with surrounding air and explode. The only way water works is if you can dump so much of it on a small fire that it immediately cools everything below the ignition temperature…basically quench the flames. Hence, the best route is to smother the fire with an inert substance such as salt (NaCl), sand, or from special MetalX type extinguishers.

[@pebblepod30]

Lithium battery fire doesnt need air does it?

[@Zircon10]

@@pebblepod30 like any fire it needs oxygen to burn. From the air, from water, or from CO2.

[@fitzwilliamdarcy3328]

@@pebblepod30 Li-ion fires make their own oxygen by ripping the oxygen from materials used in the battery. Cathodes are made from multi-metal oxides such as nickel, manganese and cobalt oxides. The electrolyte also has oxygen. That's why they are so hard to put out. If you use CO2 and/or water to smother the fire, you might actually supply more oxygen as a really hot fire will rip oxygen from CO2 or H2O. There is a possibility that enough water and CO2 might cool the thermic reaction down to a sufficiently low point to slow the fire, but you will need alot of that.

[@Roboprogs]

@@pebblepod30 - lithium is a “column 1” (in the periodic table) metal. It will strip the oxygen from water, releasing hydrogen for a secondary fire as well as the hydrogen bubbles out and burns in the air. The dissolved oxide is alkaline, like drain cleaner. Sodium and potassium (etc, through the heavier column 1 elements) are even more reactive, but heavier, so even less suitable for battery packs.

[@andres.e.]

I've seen videos with electric cars catching fire as well... even Teslas. And I heard of a specialist that says lithium batteries are dangerous and that it's crazy to use them the way we do.

[@thomasace2547]

In my U.K. town, an old building (solid stone) caught fire and damaged the two attacked flats because someone’s E-bike battery exploded while charging 🔥

[@sigh9032]

In India, batteries and control units that were imported from China are causing havocs in EV Scooter markets. So much so that most of the companies that use those batteries are mostly cease to exist. There are quite a few reputed brands (Ather, TVS etc) which are still going strong, but their sales went down, even after being very reliable.

[@sigh9032]

@jacksmith6015 i dont think they do but if they do, that biodegradable, so its a win

[@patriotenfield3276]

TVS , Bajaj and Hero all three of them are bests. They should be given chance

[@carocarp5]

I was hiking once in Florida and came across a large barren area in the woods. All I saw in it were thousands of what looked like plastic bottle caps. I examined some and realized they were car battery caps. It was an old battery dump, used to save money from forced recycling. The batteries had dissolved and only the stronger caps were left. Absolutely nothing was growing there. This was only a hundred yards from the Hillsborough River, the source of Tampa Bay Florida's drinking water. I've also seen many old car tires floating down the HR. People dumped them for the same reason, to save on the recycling fees.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Ugh. People are such asses. Surprised it's not a superfund site. You might want to raise the issue with the local and state governments.

[@Guitarman7133]

YES, BUT DID YOU REPORT IT?

[@carocarp5]

@@Guitarman7133 Of course. I was near a park and the rangers were there.

[@bbigjohnson069]

When pa pile of tires catches fire - forget it. They don't even try to put it out. It can't be done. They just let it burn.

[@anb2456]

If this is a serious issue in the US, can you imagine what the issue must be like in poorer highly populated countries? India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, China? However what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Our bodies have probably evolved to deal with mass pollution in our food and water, particularly from pesticides and other chemicals etc. People in Bangladesh must have unbelievable tolerance to toxicants

[@anthonyjackson280]

Hi from Canada. Last year the fellow I work with had the attached garage of his house catch fire caused by a plugged in charger and LiOn battery for a weed trimmer. smoke and water damage to the house meant his family were out of their house for a year as it was rebuilt - all the drywall and soft surfaces in the entire house had to be replaced. since then I do not leave any chargers plugged in after the battery has charged. Not even an e-bike; a weed trimmer!

[@TheIndCurmudgeon]

The beauty of storing a e-bike outside, preferably on top of cement, is that if something happens you at least have a decent chance that the whole chemical reaction can run it's full course isolated. In case of an unavoidable lithium battery reaction you want it to occur over cement which can take the abuse and stay structurally sound. This should be common sense.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

Even better to put it in a metal box. Extra protection from elements and whatever + isolation from nearby items that can catch fire (at least temporary). This stuff is used for outlets and other electrical devises that are prone to catch fire usually, but just a random metal crate will do as long as it couldnt be connected to battery by any chance.

[@epytaffskitchenstink]

I guess you haven't seen cement start to explode with high heat.

[@dampnickers]

Concrete is not good to have a fire on... it is prone to cracking at relatively low temps.

[@nwerd7584]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 you just dont want that box sitting in the sun all day, or have some way so it cant overheat. Hell you could just detach the batter in many instances and isolate that.. easy.

[@zeroneutral]

I could be persuaded to bet that the Li reaction will burn through an ammo can.

[@hgodfrey]

We’ve had two big house fires in my city that were caused by charging e bikes. One person was killed. The problem is exacerbated by Deliveroo who incentivise poor migrants to acquire cheap home made e-bikes to deliver takeaway food. Most don’t even have working brakes!

[@sergeant5848]

Or a vehicle licence.

[@dadyjoe9721]

So what is related brakes to explode.

[@billymanilli]

@@dadyjoe9721 sure thing!

[@hgodfrey]

@@dadyjoe9721 I mean they’re dangerous in every way. The people who own them often don’t have the money to maintain them safely .

[@surlyogre1476]

"If it moves, tax it; if it keeps moving, regulate it; if it stops moving, subsidize it." - Every government, everywhere.

[@closeencountersoftheweirdkind]

I’m glad you’re doing so well with your channel. Great job 😁

[@TheGrifCannon00]

This recently came up again in the media here in Australia. It's estimated that at least one E-Bike a week explodes every week in Melbourne. There are serious calls for new laws regarding them, especially quality control standards.

[@johnarmenta2199]

Isn't it also estimated that in Melbourne, at least one E-Bike a week explodes in Melbourne? . . . . . . .

[@twrecks6279]

Isn't that what he said?

[@behnamsaeedi]

A buddy of mine is a firefighter in Greater Toronto Area and he was explaining that in their trainings they submerge an EVs in a pool and that is still not enough to extinguish the fire, just barely enough to prevent everything around it to burn with it. High standards and quality control is very important.

[@ffwast]

Metal fires are like that. When metal burns,it's trouble.

[@bentullett6068]

If you have been watching the unloading videos of the Freemantle Highway ship that had the fire recently. The damaged EV's they are pulling off are going straight into large metal containers filled with water to kill the batteries as they are still live and unstable.

[@middlesiderrider]

​@@bentullett6068there is now a media campaign to try and convince people electric vehicles weren't the cause. "Sorry EV haters, big ship fire probably wasn’t caused by electric cars" is the title of an actual article. They can't have anything making their green savior vehicles look bad

[@M1903a4]

It's not just Chinese and it's not just e-bikes. Modern western electric vehicles catch fire all too often. Sometimes it just sitting on a charger in a garage, but sometimes they're just parked. And in a couple of high visibility incidents ships carrying cars from premium EU manufacturers have caught fire while at sea. The terror part is these fires cannot be extinguished with any normal firefighting techniques.

[@Queltamas]

Remember when the Samsung phones started catching fire and everybody freaked out over it? We need those same reactions for these much more dangerous bikes.

[@squashcustom]

As a engineer in USA lots of companies in China don't use BMS system that's why they catch fire

[@tylerdurden7869]

Yea na . Nobody in America is calling themselves a “engineer from USA “ 😂

[@Phelec59]

Yes, that 2% saving is money in their pocket. Bugger the reputation. Just start up again under another name.

[@alicia.3740]

That's good news about the cars. It's unbelievable what's going on there. Thank you also for sharing all that is happening in China. A lot of people don't have a clue what is going on out there.

[@lordzed83]

its going on everywhere not just china...

[@amberg4131]

Hopefully with the amount of pressure now, instead of the Chinese govt just relocating these,I hope they actually take the appropriate health safety care. Keep up the great investigative journalism. Many brave civilians out there living in china while they document these situations,knowing they could be taken and nothing can be done, brave people who are pushing for the truth.

[@ChansuRagedashi]

what's simultaneously entertaining and frustrating if you understand what causes Li-ion battery fires, you know it only takes 2 things to stop these fires completely: quality cells and a battery regulator/protector circuit. of course both of those things rely on the creator having morals and losing out on pennies of profit on each bike

[@InternetStudiesGuy]

A couple years ago I was in a housefire caused by an e-bike myself, in switzerland. Heavy rainfalls had slightly flooded the basement where somebody had stored an electric scooter and it started a fire. It was contained to the basement though.

[@anb2456]

thankfully, you were rescued by Swiss building quality. Imagine if you lived in a large apartment block in SE Asia, where all the vehicles were crammed in the basement garage...

[@kriswingert1662]

I watched this video and then an ad for E-bikes played. Just fantastic timing.

[@TheSlegi]

It's pretty amazing that your videos have such impact!

[@morganjonasson2947]

As a swede, my father used to repair cars and tought me alot about everything about how cars worked, including their batteries. It's only thanks to him that I learned how to switch battery myself and switch wheels. Obviously car batteries are not as explosive as lithium batteries, but they can still be explosive and very dangerous if not handeled properly. Car batteries are especially sensitive to short circuit. If you accidentally mistaken plus for minus or there is a malconfiguration in the cars circuit, these batteries can very much blow up right in your face. Instead of catching fire, expect to be sprayed with battery acid, which in car batteries are some of the strongest acids. The range of such a battery explosion can reach up to 10 meters and within that range you may expect to get corrosion damage from raining acid. Lithium batteries are obviously way more dangerous. Tbh I would probably rather build my own electric bike where I mount the battery as far away from the saddle as possible and mount a shield in between, so that if the battery would ever explode, I at least have some protection against fire damage. It's more likely to catch fire probably, but with that extra protection I am also less likely to take damage from it.

[@sunnyscott4876]

Didn't the same thing happen a few years ago with those "hover boards" that everyone wanted for Christmas ??? ($75 -115 for a tiny wallet????!!!???) 😮😮😮😮😮

[@lamwen03]

And you notice it is not holding what the thick, old fashioned wallet was. Which was $200 in cash, 3 utility bills, and 2 love letters. 🤣

[@poopymaster_kingXxninjaXX69420]

always pay in cash to avoid tax, keep your money on you and own a gun the government is watching private mode just stops you're history being recorded on "your device" sometimes, chrome still sees and records everything you do. be confident and end your sentences on a low tone rather than a high pitch or else it will sound more like a question than a statement We all spent a week making it? We all spent a week making it. THE GOVERNMENT IS BEES why is coding so hard hell is full i hope when you die you get reincarnated or reborn cause if its just nothing then thats sad, i dont want to spend the last 30 years of my life barely moving, in pain, having trouble talking and alone. and if i do i want to be reborn later so i can be young again. i wish porn didnt exist i hate bullies, and the teachers/bosses are used to it and dont care, but when i leave the class i get 20 questions. walter white how do you make meth? let me test it on other people first so i know you didnt poison me. explosion. When the universe eventually heat dies and becomes nothing it better big bang again, but it takes more force/effort to create than to destroy i remember this video about if you put an apple in a glass box and the box will last forever, its like a magic force field diamond box, anyway they said after infinite years the apple will exist in many states and eventually become the apple again. but it will take more molecules? to make the apple again, so you'll end up with less each time. and if the universe does infinitely restart i hope life isnt a loop like in futurama because that means nothing will change, nothing is unique, its happened before the same way every time and we will repeat the same actions forever, which means we have no true freedom, we're just going to repeat what happened the first time FOREVER. when is the rabies cure being released? the vaccine patch helped against the virus update but the developers still haven't added a counter for rabies. are vampire real? if they are we're screwed, because if they are and nobody knows then that can mean infinite things, but for me the main 3 things are, 1, they have super stealth powers or just live in desolate forests and jungles, 2 they were but died, or they eventually just evolved to be identical to humans or 3, vampires are real but are all in high positions of power and government, fbi etc, they control the world and will control the world forever, which is sad. unless zombies or werewolves help. Living forever would make you go insane "IF" you remember everything because after so many relationships you'd be empty and after doing everything, everything would be nothing, and you would want to die, so i'd live forever but forget unless something reminds me, like how it works for everyone, though i would really rather just be reborn/reincarnated/isekaid forever maybe when i die i remember and eventually become the most powerful, but after being at the top for so long it would be boring so i'd wipe my memories, have something i cant actually fully die ever and isekai or be reborn again, maybe trick myself or change reality so that i was a great mage who was betrayed or something so it interesting every time. when i die im going to be put in cryo incase humankind ever does learn how to bring cells back to life or fuse with the hydra/ axolotl cells or something to live forever. i wouldnt want to be a cyborg because then i would lose pleasure pain joy and all other emotions, and if not it would be replicated/recreated, but not the real thing. if life is a dream then give me god mode and elt me stay for a while and learn a bunch of stuff so when i wake up im alot smarter. also i like your comment :)

[@skullfucker3381]

China ruined that market

[@trackdusty]

@@lamwen03 ...and a couple of frangers to boot!

[@brian_sipe]

@@trackdusty both with expiration dates from the 90's

[@annihilationHaven]

I actually didn't hear anything at all about the EV garbage pile. A bigger question for the CCP would be, if you're paying for the most expensive garbage pile possible to improve the image of the country in the face of the Kyoto Protocol and other pollution agreements, what does that say about your own intelligence level? It takes a special kind of stupid to make cars for a junkyard.

[@tomsewell2462]

Winston. I bought a $3500. Dual 1000w, dual battery, 2 wheel drive, super cool, top if the line 52v Ariel Rider Grizzly X2 last year. This June while rising gently uphill in the nevada mountains, the "contollers" shorted our, exploded, and caught fire, between my legs! Though still under warranty, with under 600 miles on it, Ariel Rider in Oregon, refuses to pay to fix it! More Xi-nese garbage!😢

[@Peter-cm8vi]

I hope your "daszaks" are still viable. 🤣🤣🤣

[@je7647]

If it's not damaged elsewhere a fried controller is an easy fix, in future make sure you get an ebike with molicell 42a or Samsung (40t,50s)batteries I wouldn't trust the AG battery at all

[@GrumpyUnkMillions]

I think a close examination of the warranty would be a good idea. If owners manual instructions were followed, a good lawyer letter might get them to reconsider. If not results, talk to the state environmental group, the DMV and any auto/vehicle safety organization. Check with NHTSA to see if there are similar reports, and make a post on their 'problem' web site so it is on record. As an aside, I would consider doing a negative word-of-mouth among friends, family, and riding groups reporting the failure and the dealers avoidance of responsibiloity. The dealer, if authorized, and under warranty, should have taken care of the problem without a hint of hesitation. The importer may need to be notified also of their dealer lack of concern. My 20 copper-clads worth.

[@pootispiker2866]

Now that's a crotch rocket

[@4nlimited3dition_4n3d]

That sounds like an easy lawsuit.

[@Nitrous-ej5zy]

That's why after every use of any of my e scooters I never plug em in right away. I always let em cool down a few hrs, or just let em go till the next day. Also I do not ride directly after a charge. Always wait an hour or two after, to make sure battery isn't over stressed while riding. And finally I store em in their own room, and never leave a charger on longer than required. I have a fire extinguisher and blanket ready, 5' from them. I will periodically feel around the bottom of the deck to see if I feel any warmth, and listen with my ear pressed against it to hear any popping and hissing. Do not beat up your scoot and won't burn down your house. Plus ditch the double charger. Single charge is way safer.....

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

I appreciate the use of the word "janky". It's one of my favorite words 😂

[@yvonnesun641]

Lol me too and “jank”

[@jilbertb]

😂 my pets names are Velma, Fred and Daphne!

[@adrianred236]

Li Ion batteries can explode if overcharged. Back in the 90s when they first started being used in phones the chargers had to be designed so as not to overcharge the phone, this was a safety critical part of the design. It wasn't long before Li Ion batteries started being manufactured with their own in built protection so the charging algorithm wasn't as critical. I suspect these fires are being caused by cheap batteries that have no overcharging protection.

[@organicoceans4459]

This is true. I burned my house down charging one of the Chinese lithium batteries. That was 6 years ago. I finally got over the PTSD and was charging a bike this summer and it started to explode but we caught it in time. All charger was properly being used.🤯

[@higon99]

A story of the massive amount of abandoned EVs was getting news coverage in United Stated, Japan, Europe and elsewhere just a few days after serpentza covered it. Yeah, I feel like you helped changing the problem a bit.

[@Kevin-v2v2h]

No it didn't help at all, the world doesn't turn around a fake propaganda youtuber

[@johnjackson9751]

@@Kevin-v2v2hLooks like you made 50 cents today. Don’t spend it in one place!

[@tropicalstorm339]

@@Kevin-v2v2h Here comes the 50 cent Army.... or should I say Wumao troll...

[@anb2456]

I hope the Net Zero zealots are listening to this. unfortunately they are so obstinate, they don't care about the potential devastating consequences of net zero policy

[@axelrose9383]

​​​@@Kevin-v2v2hsure buddy whatever you say.

[@ErikGsson]

Thank you Serpentza for making these videos! I watch all of them and you are really good at what you do

[@vincenttay2812]

Yawn

[@realone4341]

I am impressed and very pleased that you personally made a significant contribution to our environment. Someone should give an award because considering the potential impact? Wow!

[@kirikei]

I have been watching your videos before, while and after living in China. And I cannot express how educational they have been. An authentic and unfiltered vision of this beautiful country from a foreigner pov which helps to understand so many cultural practices. Thank you

[@Yellow1964]

If you visited China, you should know this dude lie to the teeth. He was kicked out and he hate Chinese to his core. He cannot get over. A country doubles its GDP last 10 years according to US data source. Just google it. From $8 trillion to $18.1 trillions last year. No government last 100 years ever did that. I just visited China in May. many US cities looks like developing nations compared to China major city. Half of the in street are electric cars. Over 300 electric car manufactures, and they made over 3 million electric cars last year. The high-speed rail (HSR) network in the People's Republic of China (PRC) is the world's longest and most extensively used - with a total length of 42,000 kilometres (26,000 mi) by the end of 2022.[1][2][3] The HSR network encompasses newly built rail lines with a design speed of 200-350 km/h (120-220 mph).[4] China's HSR accounts for two-thirds of the world's total high-speed railway networks.[5][6] Almost all HSR trains, track and service are owned and operated by the China Railway Corporation under the brand China Railway High-speed (CRH). High-speed rail developed rapidly in China since the mid-2000s. CRH was introduced in April 2007 and the Beijing-Tianjin intercity rail, which opened in August 2008, was the first passenger dedicated HSR line. Currently, the HSR extends to all provincial-level administrative divisions and Hong Kong SAR,[note 1][note 2] with the exception of Macau SAR.[note 3] The HSR network reached just under 38,000 km (24,000 mi) in total length by the end of 2020.[8] The HSR building boom continues with the HSR network set to reach 70,000 km (43,000 mi) in 2035.[9]

[@thorben-elgerpinior]

One thing's for certain: Whenever i think i have seen it all, China comes around the corner and wants me to hold their beer.

[@CliffB5A4]

The safest way to store lithium batteries when they aren't being used is in an explosion and fireproof bag which can be purchased online and don't cost a lot.

[@BobboNaught-YT]

Those lithium-ion batteries cheaped out and didn't have BMS's (battery management systems) that devices like Laptops have had for decades now, and/or theyre cheaped out on construction of packing the cells together. That being said, LiFePo4 (aka LFP) batteries are beginning to replace Li-ion batteries altogether because they cannot explode.

[@freerangefool3121]

Good advice! Don't leave devicres plugged in - it's a real fire hazard!

[@larryscarr3897]

I use a timer, a high amp timer. I used for indoor growing of weed back when it was worth the effort. (Its basically worthless now its legal)

[@lawlcake8788]

@@larryscarr3897 you can always just cook meth

[@larryscarr3897]

@@lawlcake8788 yea, cuz weed amd meth are the same.. did you go to school in Florida?

[@josephlitteral]

I worked for a company that sold returned items from Amazon... The big bin of reclaimed rechargeable batteries from flashlights, toys, electronics....the bin of batteries caught on fire 🔥🔥🔥 🚒🚒🚒 of course to be fair it was a giant chain of neg. & pos. connections haphazardly thrown together in a bin. It almost burned the business down.

[@qwertyzxcv123]

Here in the Philippines, there was an incident wherein e-bike caught fire inside a gated garage while the the whole family was asleep. The entire family succumbed to the fire. Importing countries should put in place a regulatory board that will monitor products from China to see if they are good for consumption.

[@kentlu4781]

Of course there is regulatory board in every country, otherwise no international trade of goods would ever happen.

[@Mr.Robert1]

THE QUALITY GOES IN BEFORE THE NAME GOES ON! "MADE IN CHINA" !

[@jilbertb]

Thanks Winston for the info and great advise. An elder relative always left her phone charging when not in use. The battery had expanded in the case, but she continued to use it and charge it. We took her to the phone co. store for a free, new one. Oy yoi yoi.

[@ruthanneseven]

Thanks Winston! I was thrilled to hear you'd been able to effect the news! You and Matt have been the best primary news source about all things China for many years now. "I have a friend who lived in China..." prefaces a few of my conversations. I'm just so glad you all made it out safely. After so many years, you've become my "friends".

[@i-am-your-conscience]

"Friend" - so you lie as blatantly as Winstons does. His channel is about scandals, and if there are none, he makes some up. His target are americans who want to feel superior in anything, when there is nothing to feel superior about, but such fairy tales give them back the illusion of being the greatest country in the world :D

[@pweissinger1846]

Thank you for making these videos. The media simply refuses to cover any of this. You are doing a great public service for the world and I cannot overstate that enough. I seldom comment on anything but your videos are all so informative. The Chinese government needs to be seen for what it is and its not a good look.

[@middlesiderrider]

Yep, anything that makes electric vehicles look bad is suppressed. That recent container ship fire that killed one person is a good example. As soon as it came out that it was started by an electric car, many media outlets came out with stories such as(and I'm quoting the actual title) "Sorry EV haters, big ship fire probably wasn’t caused by electric cars."That certainly sounds like it was written by an unbiased source haha

[@stevenieves6011]

Thank you for all your honest video reports on China. I have always been fascinated with the inner workings of Chinese business, culture, and people. Your in depth reporting has shed a new light on China. Please keep up the excellent work and stay awesome.

[@chrisanderson5317]

The internal combustion engine is a thing of beauty. EVs cannot replace them.

[@rongreen8962]

An EV replaced my ICE 7 years ago; I’d never go back.

[@AlkaVirus]

​@@rongreen8962he's not wrong though, if it wasn't for regulation then there is no reason whatsoever to get an EV right now.

[@anb2456]

what's utterly remarkable is how little the basic design has changed over a century. it is surely among the top 10 inventions of all time

[@smatchimo55]

​@@rongreen8962 because you don't use it like everyone else uses a vehicle. an EV from that era has a range of 200 miles MAYBE, and had no fast charging solutions that we have now, and still today have an abhorrent charging station infrastructure outside of 100k+ cities... not everyone lives in san francisco lol. and you wont be getting them up to 200k miles+ id wager you havent even hit 60k on it yet; good luck replacing battery packs and drive motors on EV as part of your high mileage service. Hope you got warranty extensions.

[@ColdPotato]

China is an example of what happens when the government really gets into the heads of the people. The US gov is insanely jealous of this and about half way there...

[@canadianreserve]

Except this problem is from lack of regulation. More regulation, left spontaneous fireballs.

[@drewgrows7765]

Socialism is the Biden mission

[@bvs1q]

Its so great that they had safe and responsible methods for storing all those lithium batteries. As they foresaw the consequences of all of it going up in flames, and the amount of pollutants produced. China is great

[@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid]

😂😂😂😂

[@mylesgray3470]

It’s pretty insane considering how easy it is to remove a battery from an E-scooter. Could easily just pull the battery’s before they junk them but apparently that’s too much to ask in China.

[@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid]

@@mylesgray3470 - and that’s why China is greeeat!

[@khangpiano549]

Might as well make all of them explode so you don’t have to deal with them individually 😂. China is great 🤗

[@scotthayes9751]

I have a 3 wheeled electric bicycle and I have it in my garage. Thanks for the heads up I think I'll move it.

[@DJNeiloSF]

Congratulations on raising awareness on these important issues!

[@robertmoffett3486]

I recognized that shop right away. They were found to be "refurbishing" batteries. It's a thing here now. The city passed a law against tampering with them last March. Some appear to be sold as new. There have been other fatal e-bike fires here in the past couple of years.The FDNY is "cracking down" on shops like this, but crackdowns have a way of failing. I won't hold my breath

[@HobbyOrganist]

THANK YOU for bringing that up! the shady non factory, unauthorized "repair" shops run by idiots who open and tamper with these batteries which should never be opened or repairs attempted on them! they then solder in replacement cells or parts and sell the thing for half price, what do people expect for half price but GARBAGE? My foreman thought he was saving money with replacing the Makita 9.6v $50 Ni-Cad batteries we used to use in drills and drivers- with another brand that was $29. I unpacked them and noticed immediately they felt like they weighed HALF what the Makita brand batteries did, they also had absolutely NO identification at all on them! just a plain black plastic case. They lasted about half as long as the real Makita batteries did- charge and lifespan.

[@carl8568]

Here in Australia, 98 odd % of lead acid batteries are recycled. For lithium-ion battery waste it's under 10%. And yeah, when they get going, very hard to put out. I power my cabin with AGM lead acid batteries

[@richy69ify]

In Europe a German company is buying lithium batteries as they serve as a second use in power storage. After that, maybe after a total of 20 years in the car and in storage, the lithium can be removed then used in several manufacturing processes.