Chinese Longsword - Miao Dao

Four Roads Small Form using 136cm Heavy Grain Leaf Sabre (苗刀)

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[@yordy2740]

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Me.

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[@cripside60s55]

Been lookin for this

[@Panzerker658]

Who's here after sun da's release?

[@0SpaceCadet0]

I know he calls this a Miao Dao but this is the newer name/style only recently coming to light after being lost. The true weapon is called the Changdao, adopted by a general after i assume he conquered invading wokou (japanese pirate) wit weapons called the Odachi, The crafting method was found inside a Kage-Ryu manual, then modified them for his troops in replacement of the "horse slaying" weapon the wielded. Ironically the Odachi that the wokou were using is just a modification the very same "horse slaying" weapon Zhan Ma Dao. who knows how many times these accent cultures exchanged knowledge via the battlefield.

[@Blackangelsean]

Todd You are right. This brief form was taught by Liu, and was firstly written by by Adam in Wutan magazine. since it is practical and straight-forward, it is the most popular long saber forms in Taiwan.

[@CloudyB_MT]

You must've spent and eternity with this blade. Very fluent and smooth.

[@MrCocoRobot]

Miao Dao are supposedly have blades around 1.2m in length, and the entire sword around 1.95m. Katana has a blade about 28". A Miao Dao is closer to a Nodachi or Odachi in sizebut the curve is narrower, and the blade profile more characteristic of a dao than a nihonto. Yes, it belongs to Tong Bei.

[@KuKulzA28]

Sort of. Chinese had a sword style exported to Japan in the Tang Dynasty. ZhanMaDao were particularly long and used vs cavalry. By the (mongol) Yuan Dynasty, the old Chinese swords and choppers began to be replaced by steppe cavalry sabers, and became a part of the Chinese arsenal. The Japanese developed the tachi and katana, and Japanese pirates used these on southern Chinese coastal towns, spurring the re-adoption of the design by the Chinese. It became the miao dao, chang dao, and wo dao.

[@stevetheduck1425]

The shifting from one- and two-handed moves with flexibility and and always able to change facing: impressive work. Usually a parry-cut pair into a facing change; minimal flash; looks serious and practical.

[@SuperHongTay]

Where do you learn to use the Miao Dao? I hear it's rare nowadays right?

[@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique]

I bought myself a 1060 high carbon steel 57 inch miao dao. And also a black chinese straw hat with led light. Zhanhu from For Honor. 😏🙄

[@Blackangelsean]

That is a heavy weapon. To move the heavy ones, we need to optimize our body works. That is to move as one, and triggered in your Dantien( core muscle).

[@dirty_sock__9776]

Miao daos are not heavy. They aren't supposed to be. They are light and agile.

[@Blackangelsean]

@@dirty_sock__9776 With sufficient training, everything could be light and agile.

[@dirty_sock__9776]

@@Blackangelsean well yea that's obvious. And working out, or getting physical activity will help with using a weapon but the thing is.... Is weapons are not supposed to be heavy. Now obviously some weighted weapons are usually the larger ones like war hammers or blunt weapons or polearms. But even then they are still light because a heavy weapon will tire you and trying to use it would be difficult. But training with a heavy *practice* weapon is good conditioning for your arms. And also a miao dao is supposed to be very light for it's size.

[@Blackangelsean]

@@dirty_sock__9776 What to be trained are not meant to be arms, but thighs. Actually, it is a whole body coordination. I am not good at that still long way to go.

[@dirty_sock__9776]

@@Blackangelsean well yea it's not just arms. definitely the whole body too but I forgot to mention that but it's still good to condition the arms so they don't get tired yk?

[@sconesandjam41]

Really nice and whats very important here and I see it very clearly you are relaxed and yr mind is relaxed. This is beautiful. Well done. Where in London do you teach. Would love to pop in for a lesson.

[@satnamo]

General Khi chi Quang long army knife Miao Dao is my new toy

[@JochenWolf]

This form you learnt most likely from late Mike Martello, right? He does some seminars in England I know. The form performance is good but you missed out some details I really would like to correct ... ;)

[@BeifengDaoren]

A question, this belongs to Tong Bei ? Thank you.

[@JustClaude13]

I think Pigua has a similar form.

[@neandertodd]

HI I was curious as to what lineage or teacher this form come from. The reason being it is very similar to a Miao Dao form I learned from the Liu Yun Chiao lineage. It is the only similar form I've seen. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks

[@ChineseWrestlingCeKungFu]

Great Miao dao form!!!

[@YamamotoKazuo]

Kenjutsu is more effective than this shit

[@EXHellfire]

It pretty much looks like a Japanese Katana to me. What are the differences apart from the weapon's total lenght? Katanas are usually shorter if I recall correctly.

[@stevetheduck1425]

The shape is curved but does not seem to taper as much as a Katana. - and it's both much larger and heavier than any Katana I've ever seen.

[@lc4076]

i think the shape of miao dao is very beautiful and good looking

[@m.nizarfikri7948]

What's the different between katana and Mia dao

[@woozhi9218]

@@m.nizarfikri7948 the miao dao could i said could have influenced how katana looks since they are neighbouring country like how ancient influenced japanese writing and words korea as well .The katana could also be more sharper since it was design to slice so know blocking with it or with only the side or the back of the sword .The miao dao could be thicker perfect for bashing and the weight grants it more inertia

[@Reciter5613]

I like how it's like a heavy two-handed sword but wielded like a one-handed sword.

[@dirty_sock__9776]

It's not heavy... A miao dao is not heavy, it's very light and agile for the size.

[@tiemuzhenborjikin9206]

Form 4?

[@dragonlancer1909]

do know what the blade length on that sword is ?

[@ChineseWrestlingCeKungFu]

Congrats, great channel!!!

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Next Wu Lin fighter in For Honor

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Kpro_TM I was literally just about to type that until I saw your comment.

[@kingkalidire2386]

How to tell you that zhanhu was released nearly three years ago

[@ZeroFucksLeft]

The book "Go Rin No Sho", would sharpen up your skills nicely. I get that it's a bit of wushu (more a dance than combat system), but my main critique is that you do not return the sword along the path you originally cut (means cutting left/ right, up/down, ECT.)

[@ZeroFucksLeft]

My favorite narration of this book can be found in a playlist called "Mental Tools", on my channel.

[@DaMonStith]

Superb movements!

[@shaolinchihuahua2858]

does that come from the japanese katana style?

[@mr.cebuano2843]

Japan and korea is influence from china, japans and koreans culture is 90% chinese tangdao and miaodao is the parents from katana and odachi ,archetype clothes chopstick weapon .......... all from china Chinese influence of korea en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_influence_on_Korean_culture chinese influence of japan en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_influence_on_Japanese_culture

[@gyin9098]

Chinese sword and Japanese sword, which is better?

[@camrendavis6650]

H2uss G Chinese, just because the way is forged. Japanese swords are partially heated, so they bend very easily. Chinese swords are heated all the way through, so they're very flexible and keep their shape

[@JustClaude13]

Of course, it depends on which swords you're talking about and when they were made. Japanese swords are traditionally differentially hardened, using a technique they learned from China. Most Chinese swords were made the same way, but during some periods the sword was neglected in favor of spear and halberd, so the techniques for manufacturing quality blades was lost and had to be recovered. Most East Asian blades were differentially hardened to create a softer, resilient core with a hardened high carbon edge. Which was a better sword then depended on who was doing a better job of heat treating the swords at a particular time and what mix of alloys they were forge welding together to create the blade. European swords, by contrast, were differentially tempered. The whole sword was quenched to a high degree of hardness, then heated rods were clamped to each side to heat the spine to a high temperature and then cooled more slowly to produce a softer core that resisted breaking on impact. The process was in a sense reversed, but the end product was much the same.

[@austinkoontz2845]

Awesome.

[@tlock2005]

Pigua Quan I believe

[@RVM451]

136 cm-How much is that in Real Units? .....RVM45

[@JustClaude13]

In real units that would be about four shaku, four sun, nine bu.

[@stevetheduck1425]

In inches that's about five inches, perhaps you mean 1,36 Metres?

[@stevetheduck1425]

Sorry read mm, for cm, my fault. 1metre, 36 centimetres it is.

[@stevetheduck1425]

That's in SI units of course. In traditional Chinese units for sword measurement... are they the same as the Japanese traditional units, or is there a difference? Have heard only cho, shaku, bu for the Japanese units of distance / length.

[@eborge9711]

The form was well done, however it looks like your leaning inward when you do a bow stance. Other than that it was done really well.

[@primalpunch]

Good stuff.

[@tlock2005]

Nice

[@xiphiascdxx1511]

@ 0:43 he scrapes the tip of the blade on the floor

[@WoodLeopard]

No I don't.

[@xiphiascdxx1511]

@@WoodLeopard I heard that blade ring on _something_

[@WoodLeopard]

@@xiphiascdxx1511 Good hearing you have! The blade skims my trousers, but doesn't connect with the ground.

[@xiphiascdxx1511]

@@WoodLeopard Ah, sounds like a sharp blade!

[@diegoleo1279]

katana?

[@RVM451]

Friend, It would have been nice if you could have also given the Blade Length in REAL UNITS. Now I have to go find a converter to translate Metric into Real. Everyone in the world would feel much more happy and fulfilled if the Imperial Units was universal. Metric rots the brain. …..RVM45 i HATE the Metric System!

[@Baihu108]

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[@nkuvnkaumvaj9841]

lol this is not a weapon of the Miao people. I am Miao and we have not such a thing. The blade was adopted from Japanese Odachi when wokou pirates raided Southern China....And the Japanese originally adopted it from Chinese horse slaying swords of Tang dynasty.

[@mynameizmaineimis1880]

So basically just what the original commenter said.

[@1Invinc]

+jessepasley The Japanese Longswords were based on Tang Dynasty designs which fell out of favour during the Song and Yuan dynasties. Wokou Raids reintroduced those designs back to China and the Ming military spent quite a bit of time recovering the Longsword.

[@timx9333]

miao means "slim" in Chinese , have nothing to do with MIAO people

[@xc2991]

the other explanation of Miao 苗 is the blade curves like the rice plant 穗 in autumn ready to be harvest

[@蒋亦晨]

You have no idea of word "Miao"

[@Phillykungfufighter]

You guys keep using it like a samurai sword, its a miao weapon from the miao ppl it stays close to the body because its a long blade, and relies on the circle movtion of the human body

[@n9p306]

The reason it is called a Miaodao is because it looks like a Hemiao(rice before maturity). It's not a miao wepon.

[@lileo5811]

提几个小建议。 1.中国武术讲究流畅，你的节奏点不是掌握的特别好 2.发力的动作不太协调，很多时候要么刀劈下去了身体还没完成转体，力量没办法完整达到攻击点 3.最好加一些力量，这样子更方便你体会。

[@calebengland149]

Thats a katana :P

[@pwnyryanbow6667]

not quite, they're a little different in terms of size and strengths

[@calebengland149]

Chinese longswords are shaped differently

[@calebengland149]

BatGuanoStar u guys are right. I apologize for my ignorance

[@calvinblue894]

Caleb England It will look similar to Katana.. because both China and Japan learnt sword making from each other.. Katana itself was learnt from China.. with chinese design in it..and some original japanese designs.. Then later part, China learnt the Katana from Japan, and modified to make the Ming Chang Dao.. The Miao Dao is Republican.. which is the most recent era..