We were betrayed (again) [also Ffraegar Wheel] Call of Dragons

[@Chisgule]

Betrayals are complicated, so in the coming days I'll be releasing a longform video explaining our entire season's progression. At the end of the day, this kind of betrayal is the most disgusting form imaginable. There's truly no excuse for it, IMO. subscribe so you don't miss the next video. discord.gg/chisgule

[@chilzy7863]

you can't have leaders who are immature and don't do what's best for the group but instead are selfish.

[@stevenwarmsbecker9284]

Had a similar circumstance last season two weeks prior to the final days. We did a merger at the end with another alliance that we beat in wars for the dragon territory. All is good, have a nice strong team. Fast-forward a bit, leader takes a few days off to get married. Leadership transfers to a long time member of our alliance and trusted R4. Come to find out that she then handed leadership over to a high powered member from the alliance we merged with and our alliance was essentially held hostage for the remainder of the season. Removed all of our R4s who were responsible for our success and put a bunch of their friends in charge. Nothing was to be gained from it since we already captured the dragon, but it divided our alliance pretty much in three parts, so heading Into season two was a mess and we lost a lot of members. So now our main competition in season 2 is all those who betrayed us and took the sides of the ones who coordinated the Coupe De' Tat. Quite an interesting couple weeks it was. They essentially took it over and hid away till reset. 😂

[@pmin5554]

“We’re traitors but now we’re winners” the hollowest of hollow victories. I would leave that kingdom asap with leadership/fellow players like that. A stark lesson for the name caller who strangely besmirched his allies he must be very embarrassed.

[@chills097]

Betrayal is a fun part of the game. Idk what u all are whining. Wars get more exciting and fun with an alliance that betrays

[@GreenSniper_YT]

Season 2 has been the season of betrayals it seems 😂

[@Chisgule]

My experience is that all seasons have been the season of betrayal. I'd like to see changes to the game design to safeguard against this and will be proposing them in a future video.

[@DrWackySanchez]

@@Chisgule What you're saying in this video is the exact reason my alliance took control over ANY alliance no matter how small in our starting zone or get burned It's extreme but this happened to us last season so to protect ourselves we had to be

[@arvinrelles8542]

Are they a bunch of elementary kids to even be hurt for just name calling.... You also cured my OCD for getting those Fraegar Sculps perfectly

[@Kilravockk]

It sucks being caught in the middle of it. I’m with Ancs, and I’m sure this was baking in the oven for awhile for them to flip so quickly and so terribly.

[@candykryzkryz8974]

Betrayal has become the new norm now.

[@savagesnadgaming7252]

This is disgusting. I had this happen in another game and the way I finally got through to them was showing them all the people who quit after being zeroed with no involvement. I said "This is my last message to you since obviously you can't see or hear reason...you killed the kingdom and people like you are killing the game. Making dozens and dozens of people quit over one person's grievance against one other person is the most egotistical thing I have ever seen. Enjoy ruling over the ashes." The next day the leaders alliance booted him in his sleep and zeroed him. We went on to have a great run as a kingdom. Bottom line, it is not only disgusting it is extremely narcissistic and egotistic. One person got called a name so zero anyone who is loosely associated with the "wrong-doer". What a shame.

[@TheNightMayr]

So if anyone wants to know the namecalling that happened, keep in mind this was the leader of an ally alliance not a member within our alliance, it was "Luhpenis"... which is funny cuz the guy it was targeted at was the "one guy" in leadership that didnt want to fight us but got "out voted".

[@coryedwards1133]

I love the video. Keep the content up Chisgule.

[@terran0860]

Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Come on its taught to us as 3 year olds.

[@Chisgule]

That's right. Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me... unless we're SEALS, in which case we will tear down thousands of hours of effort and betray hundreds of players until our sense of justice is fulfilled. GG

[@Dan-nr3om]

What about being a pos? Because that's what's happening in server 32

[@rangerandrogue]

It happens to the best of us, man.

[@MentalLogicDiff]

I mean BD sent help to SEALS for their Hydra and Necro so that SEALS had behemoths to help BLOOD in the zone 4. Forgot to mention that BD couldnt capture their Elite Necro without them. Then there is also the fact that BD wouldnt have won the contested zone 3 since SEALS heavily covered BD downtime to hold off DS and NK. I understand thoughts are jumbled, but at least be honest about it. Betrayal sucks for sure, but you gotta be honest.

[@Chisgule]

What they helped us do is irrelevant to the betrayal. We didn’t betray them, they betrayed us. If we betrayed them, they could express frustrations over how they’d helped with things.

[@MentalLogicDiff]

@Chisgule It could be seen as irrelevant to you, but for people to fully understand something alot of context has to be given right? You mentioned BD sent SEALS help for hydra and necro right? You brought that up, which ONLY happened cause SEALS held the zone 3 for BD during their worst downtime. Context is great. Betrayal never feels good, and emotions can run high. I hope your long form video explains more clearly.

[@mewacenub]

@@MentalLogicDiff cringe take, not even on the server. To take the safety away from the starting zone isnt ok, not for the health of the game.

[@MentalLogicDiff]

@mewacenub The funny part is I am on the server. I've been watching this go down all season. I'm a 50mil+ player who has been with BD since it's very beginning. Before Chisgule was even involved. I've been with BD since the beta server 5 where we won. Seeing what it has become hurts, and seeing a video of this quality being put out without collecting your thoughts properly speaks volumes to how desperate the reaching for straws has become. I mean hell, Chisgule even briefly mentioned he is all for actual punishments in the game for betrayal?! Dude, if that is the state of the mindset here is instead of taking any accountability anymore and you want an in-game punishment implemented for a lack of diplomatic skill, that's wild. These games are built off player interaction and connection. This isn't to blame anyone at all, but there NEEDS to be accountability. Without it, it's always going to end the same way. Learn to adapt, improvise, and overcome instead of constantly crying you were betrayed. How many times will it take before there's finally a "We lost fair and square" video? The season was a loss the moment Chisgule and Striker prioritized a flag below the ramp to the right instead of taking the top of the ramp. INSTANTLY over. No dragon = lose. Stalemate isn't a win, that's actual copium. Actually, funny enough BD showed up in more numbers and presence against MILF than against DS/NK. THAT goes to show how jaded the entire alliance is, show up against an alliance half your power but when fighting an actual enemy you barely show up. GG's on season 2, BD's 3rd loss in a row. I hope they do better next time.

[@theirishman7792]

@@MentalLogicDiffspoken like a seal. Same can be said of them to. Their z4 presence was pitiful and they folded after like the first 24 hours. If you had fought how you are fighting against blood things might have been even more different in z4

[@Dan-nr3om]

This has by far been the most drama filled season I think of any game I have played.

[@wdbland0820]

Funny this video comes up because my alliance/ guild was betrayed yesterday. It is truly a long story but what happened was a person pretended to be one leaders of our alliance guilds and made a account in our guild to "help". Our guild was in a war with a guild that had a lot of whales from Asia so we fought hard but got our asses handed to us. As we were trying rebuild this person asked our guild leader to pass lead for a second to change guild message to recruit help. Once he had leadership he started deleting everything. At first roads disappeared so we thought it might be loading issues. Then towers got deleted and everything else he could. After that he kicked everyone from the guild one at a time. It was traumatic, LOL I watched in disbelief. People started to just drop guild but I was like he gonna have to delete me. We were in the top 10 on our server, sometimes as high as 5th. We are pissed!!! Lesson learned. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@rexstrife143]

same here started season 2 and boom so much drama...betrayals and shiftings ...GAAWD

[@MRSPONGEBOB471]

I dont like COD but I like drama 😂

[@Koreanreads]

Call of drama 😂😂😂

[@justkidding6482]

Ppl like rok but not cod are fucked up in my humble opinion

[@janihaavisto79]

Wins Houwifes and The bald and the beat 💓. 😅

[@potatohands4368]

Why don't you like cod?

[@notmrscollins7554]

Call of Dragons will always have betrayals like this, because the game is designed that way. Just look at the Augurstone objectives. There's absolutely no reason for alliances to work together or to cooperate, because the Devs have not made any reason to do so. There's no common goal, no common enemy that alliances should work together to defeat. The whole game is designed for one alliance to rule, and to crush everyone else. Even the money hungry, cash grabbing Devs of State of Survival realised that in the end people would need a common enemy that would take the whole state to defeat, in order for people to stay invested and a game (or at least a season) to be successful. Because in this game everybody loses, even the winners of the dragon, because ultimately, they will end up ruling an empty state.

[@alexandertan6285]

I recived the mail that SEAL, or MILF sent out. Pretty much they got confused by/lied to by ANCS and demanded an apology, which was not given. So they declared war on ANCS.

[@TrucNguyen-ug9el]

well, our alliance were betrayed too, just only few hours :)))

[@stevie3243]

so sad to hear. i mean you can win or you can lose in the game. it‘s ok. but you should retain kind of honor and stick to your agreements. may i ask in terms or heroes combination if kinnara would be a better option for pvp? have seen videos where ppl show use cases with kinnara+hosk or syndrion+kinnara while dealing tons of counter attack damage in the field. is that correct or can you achieve comparable result with syndrion+fraegar?

[@Chisgule]

Hosk Kinnara has amazing counterattack. Syndrion Ffraegar has amazing normal attack. Both very good.

[@MariaNuñezGarcía-k7v]

There are people who don't know what honor is

[@jampoh3909]

Rome got betrayed Rome has fallen Rome missed 2 dragons 😅

[@la_blodreina]

This reminds of when my ex and I would get into an argument over something he felt was not a big deal but for me it was just the cherry on top of the poo sundae. I'm not involved in this in any way (S132 doesn't have this kind of drama lol), but I'm just gonna say like, these folks wrote that these issues started LAST season, and they were interesting in migrating out already. So predictable even under the smallest amount of pressure. A failure of diplomacy, as you say astonishingly preventable on all sides lol

[@littlericeboy6187]

You hit the nail on the head. Here

[@DekaSurges]

Chisgule calling out meower

[@arthidon1466]

Yass more COD videos

[@KingJamie2229]

You need to direct your full attention to that one Kingdom alone! Attack them, hopefully it'll cost them so much it will negate any rewards.

[@furkanduran3787]

Have to trust someone to betrayed I never did

[@-ANT-69]

my server we just got betrayed too because they recruited some t5s from another zone and now they inflated their ego.

[@saatwiksharma3963]

4:35 min they say Word my favorite word "MILF" ❤❤❤❤

[@Cheech-420]

Sounds like a bunch of kids running that alliance.

[@AnhLe-qg8pg]

just a quick question, when does the first strongest lord start in ss2. Thk

[@colesaunders8120]

Opportunity to cut out the cancer early, onwards to bigger and better things!

[@DarkSiegeROK]

Betrayal is part of war. It always has been and always will be. No one is above it.

[@normalguy5583]

it's part of war yes, but not the good part or beatiful part. it's an ugly part that everyone dispise.

[@bropro9894]

War cant be beautiful bro

[@normalguy5583]

​@@bropro9894part of it can. That why three kingdom is so well know

[@MrPainOG]

Kinda the same happened to ours not as bad tho

[@bcash2457]

Betrayal/Drama is what keeps this game running

[@Chisgule]

I disagree. It's what makes people quit.

[@normalguy5583]

drama, maybe, not the betrayal. this is why my alliance decide no ally policy. you either my family or you are my enemy. for sure we will never ally in starting zone 1.

[@LegendRaYu]

@@normalguy5583 which server you are

[@theirishman7792]

When people start losing they try to flip. Plain and simple. Which is wild since they will still get zero rewards anyway lol

[@devious9446]

It’s a war game I think the betraying aspect is fine at the end of the day it’s just a game get your revenge next season keeps thing interesting honestly if I was in that situation I would look forward to playing even more next season to dominate

[@Gary-n9d]

No. Devs need to lock starting zones and stop merits form people in a starting zone or allied zones which you would have to pick at the start of the season. I do not like it either but people are the reason rules get crated, stop abusing games systems.

[@AB-fv4tr]

I don’t even chat/speak, trash talk & here only for the experience of the game and all I know is the last 2 betrayal makes me think I wonder what kind of decisions they made in real life to get where their at lol. I woke up & they are SO WEAK MINDED that they cannot even handle a trash talk lol. **If you can’t handle World chat STAY OUT OF WORLD CHAT haha** They wanted ANCS yet made the decision to delete flags that made all of BAM & BDO open to the main opposition for zeroing and expected BD to not respond to what they did. Playing the victim game but we know what happened haha.

[@Blank-tb8lf]

hrt and family are good guys

[@Tootler]

It’s not surprising when your dealing with people with limited life experience

[@Darkill6441]

me as a mage main i have to say Im not scared of archers...very easy to just stay out of range of them in a big open field fight

[@DemonKing0411]

They were looking to make us quit by not letting us have a safe zone, but as usual, they underestimated our heart and our strength as a family.

[@BrutalFelix82]

its a war game, never overextend yourself to the point where a betrayal can hurt you this much

[@mohammadmuslizulkifly1700]

im a free to play, cant match you guys with pay to win... im in LoCY... Enjoy to be in server with you guys...

[@faizalmahfudh6545]

OMG got betrayal again

[@deepasri1546]

Don’t worrychisgule I will come with a great alliance to Allie with you. ‘Remember my name’ but this time I am not messi😂😊

[@Darkill6441]

thats why I dont ally people with voting systems..lol

[@RoastedDonut77]

Lol everyone's getting betrayed in s2..thought were the only one😂😂😂

[@bitcoinbull6564]

I wanna know what was said to the leader 😂

[@Chisgule]

The funny thing is that I don't actually know. I think he'd accused them of being traitors. Which I mean... they are. So technically if that's what was said, he was in fact correct lol.

[@PotatoFarmer69]

I said:” NK/D&S should give Luhginus (r5 of the betraying alliance) a spot for the dragonframe since he helped them win this season “

[@yewho8382]

Even without the seal incident, your blood family is destined to be unable to defeat ds, mf, and nk in zone 5 This is a fact. You have to admit it.

[@Basco24]

​@@PotatoFarmer69LMAO

[@dafaer8712]

The way chisgule stuter😢

[@scoopdaniels]

GoS! forever

[@PotatoFarmer69]

GoS!

[@abhiroopghoshdastidar2337]

Why did this happen in our server too?

[@grantchen2324]

you obviously didnt grow up with rich kids...that's how they be like when you cross them

[@sixtyfivewatts65]

where betray video at ?

[@VNTRLittleRomeo]

i watched your recent betrayal vid before this one.... you asked people to like and subscribe to rehash the same drama xD unlucky bro truely gl next season

[@C-Los.93]

Please do a longer explanation including the members responsible. Not for hate but i sure as hell dont want them in our server or atleast to keep an eye out for them. This would absolutely suck if it happened to more people..

[@janihaavisto79]

Chisgule I'll write you an PM in game. Have some ideas maybe. Zo a rumor I've heard.

[@mooks5498]

Alls fair in love and war 😂 and ganes apparently

[@Coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Leaders are ego players, what do you expect? We got betray at the start of the season for the same problem ego.

[@Ganooch]

Congrats on Ffraegar. Server 32 is ruined though. If everyone wanted to play together Server 32 could have been great. Unfortunately, over the last two seasons groups have made the decision they didn't want to play together. That's all it really is. Betrayal is a strong word to use in a mobile app where the worst you can do to someone is drag your circle over their circle. Server 27 and 53 are low pop. A migration plan should be discussed and agreed upon between BD/Dragon/Seals and people should keep their word. Then everyone can go on to grow and be successful, and people can play with who they want to.

[@theirishman7792]

Blood tried since season 1 to bring all of 32 together but there’s a lot of big egos. Chinese players don’t like working with other big groups and whales think they’re entitled because they spend a bunch and throw tantrums when they don’t get their way.

[@KNNY61]

Doh! Hey Chisgule. You ever hear "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"? In light of real world events between certain groups and real betrayals... ...good thing here is just a silly game. 🙄

[@mcmackmuckm8180]

It seems like the betrayal had it's roots hidden from you prior to your 7 hour sleep and you have been given the Global chat as an excuse. Either that or the betrayers were absolute kids. The problem with betrayal is that the betrayer can never be trusted again. Once you show that you have no moral decency, there's no reason to believe that you would suddenly obtain it.

[@littlericeboy6187]

There's no moral decency to begin with if the Allies misled them, disliked them and never wanted to work with them to begin with. Might as well tell them outright so they went with the opposition instead of giving their all for people who didn't want them.

[@UNGODLYBEAST]

My S2 is preeti good 3 server is against us with them having 6t5 players and none on us 😂

[@AsterPhoenix-w8x]

HEADACHES 🙃

[@EdwinTX]

it is indeed a terrible thing BUT your viewers enjoy this kind of content let there be WAAARRRRR

[@beamerandmercedesthebully3111]

Lmao… this is why we play

[@kanimokun1658]

Bro zero those mofos 😐👿👿

[@LICH-48]

I hope we get you guys in the merge next season dragon would be toast

[@DarthJayR]

many have tried , many have failed !

[@LICH-48]

We have 2 almost 5 bil alliances over here and we are good friends with blood we would be fine

[@levzhang]

I still scratch my head and couldn’t understand why is this happening 😂😂. Maybe because potato keep humiliating seal leader and blood seem to care more about ancs than seal?

[@theone-tf8ds]

streem sniped

[@zhaoqijie]

冰冻三尺非一日之寒，bruh~

[@normalguy5583]

why you ally ppl in your starting zone? i thought every one clear out their starting zone for sure.

[@Shaudius]

Server merge this season was 6 servers and there's only 4 starting zones. It's possible to not have an ally kingdom in your starting zone but it's also possible you don't. 2 of the starting zones have 2 statues and 2 have 1 so its likely chisgules kingdom is big enough to share a 2 statue zone.

[@normalguy5583]

​@@Shaudiusnot about how big it is. It's about trust. How can you trust them

[@Shaudius]

​@@normalguy5583it's not about trust. It's about not having a choice. There are not enough starting zones for every server to have their own, so you're always going to have some servers that have another server in their starting zone.

[@koli_v]

This is what happens where there are 12 yr olds in leadership 🤦

[@num9899]

Leave the server and start new , take over a new server for the English speakers out there…

[@odenshiddentreasure2717]

WGM ALLIANCE KING ODDY AMD K&Q LEADER SQY WALKER DID JUST WHAT U SAY AMD WE STAND WITH FREE TO PLAY IT JUST SHOWS HOW QUICKLY WHALES CAN VE OVER THRONED WHEN POWERFUL LORDS COME TOGETHER! To over throw you bahahahah!!! SERVER 37 KING ODDY LEADER OF THE MERCENARIES!!!

[@PuyawaPun]

I still confused what happen lol

[@genaian]

What i got from it: weak-minded children/childish folks being able to show their true character as its online and "just a game, bro".

[@PuyawaPun]

I just see them from the blood enemies side so idk what happen in blood side i just see the name change and some argue in world chat

[@GIRlulz]

There are no live streams for COD anymore. So I don't really care.

[@abhiroopghoshdastidar2337]

COD is less of an game and more of a soap opera.

[@05eight08]

Could have been eeeaaasily solve if only you threw some potato out of your house.

[@Chisgule]

If only I could lead an alliance while I'm sleeping. I'd be the most OP human ever.

[@TheSenseiSwift]

Potato wasnt even in BAM at the time. He had left BAM (The people Seals attacked) like 12 hours before the comment was even made lol Thats the most insane part about all of this.

[@PotatoFarmer69]

Well we had a chat but Luhginus demanded an apology from me in the Belleron chat which I wasn’t going to do. Therefore he started attacking his own allies and turned to the enemy

[@hamad9769]

u were sleeping u sure about that ! so u were not in dm with some r4 of milf aka seals !!!!!@@Chisgule

[@nanamarfo1808]

Seriously though.......when u keep getting betrayed by allies you should probably look inside your own alliance. May be u aint doing something right??? BD by all indications should be winning and not losing due to constant betrayals

[@tbagnurmom]

cant trust anyone these days

[@llanqxi2188]

Bro it's just a game

[@richardhoffman7572]

Just stop investing in Allies, it’s a waste of time. People who spend money (for the most part) will do anything to win, as if taking the dragon is some major accomplishment. Next season just come out swinging and other T5 will join you.

[@Jetts182]

Unfortunately the more content made over this subject, the more you will be targeted it seems. Dont back down, strong foundations will always outlast weak foundations.

[@Chisgule]

I'd choose integrity over video game victory any day of the week. This is not a difficult choice.

[@JosephKelly-co1zh]

Funked everyone,s season insane dragon rider

[@madpanda6862]

well betraying is part of the game thou.

[@Chisgule]

I have literally never betrayed in a city-building war game. Just because it can be done, does not make it ethical.

[@drewg1028]

We are on the same server and I'm from MF. With politics, there has to be accountability and consiquences. We had kinda the same situation back in server 43 where a leader of an alliances was being racist towards the chinese player whichs is MF. The leader was zeroed out to spare all the other innocent players. Thats taking it like a true man and own up. Maybe if the guy was handed over. This could have been all avoided. 😅😅😅

[@Chisgule]

Racism isn’t acceptable. From what I’ve seen of what was said in global chat, the comment was not racist. So equating the two events is not remotely appropriate. Also idk what you guys expected to happen when leadership was sleeping. I’m shocked MF wanted to win in this way.

[@Bruhnwhat]

bruh they are mad because they spent so much haha

[@bgmchico7388]

Play more rok 😆😆

[@MyMarius87]

It seems the game is boring and betrayals make it less boring.

[@stellanhughes2549]

The game is not boring at all, there was always a lot going on. You don’t play this game, do you

[@MyMarius87]

well not anymore, cuz it was boring. @@stellanhughes2549

[@Itsrich238]

Lol

[@gaiblexx1919]

If chisgule says what someone does is gross then...

[@su2c393]

Sad that this turned in to drama chanel

[@delarin6960]

Chis. TFS has a spot for u. 🎉

[@sircumference2742]

I would never betray you Chisgule

[@valley3343]

Mf...aka WA. Played them last season...bunch of snakes. But...BDO was dumb enough to ally with another Chinese alliance...you are at fault.

[@COOKEDxSNOW]

We definitely did not play any from this server last season

[@Chisgule]

We didn’t ally them? What are you talking about

[@c4rsten]

Mf ... aka WA ... aka FAA whose Leader - Timmmeeyy threw RL death threats at us and getting a week mute for it? that alliance? yeah they have no backbone xD

[@ViiLE94]

😂😂😂

[@dimitrykalinin9513]

​@@c4rstenMF has never been defeated yet