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@THUNGUNS2 жыл бұрын
For someone who has already invested in saladin and wants to bring 2 cav marches to mass pvp - Is it better to bring saladin William, XY Nevsky or Nevsky William, XY saladin?
@iwj43632 жыл бұрын
I think guan honda is better than guan leo, just because no one is swarming guan at first anymore rn
@deepakdhingra19992 жыл бұрын
As an f2p, i hv already invested into alex and saladin.... So.. Next guide for f2ps and maybe to get easy kills too..
@Chisgule2 жыл бұрын
@@THUNGUNS Xy Nevsky Saladin william
@TheADDik2 жыл бұрын
Ram/ ysg
@redwan2510752 жыл бұрын
Ashamed to bring marches to the field? Dude most of the players are not spenders and bring what they can to the field. It's good enough that they are on the field and contributing/fighting.
@ΜατθαίοςΜαραβέλιας-σ7κ2 жыл бұрын
the smart is bring only good marchers if you have one is ok like Alex/ sun its ok he means ashamed you bring like sun tsu / mehm
@SenjuGod2 жыл бұрын
You are so soft lmfao
@sopaipillasconmostaza75932 жыл бұрын
Go with Cleo and siege then
@redwan2510752 жыл бұрын
@@sopaipillasconmostaza7593 good idea dude!
@njizz21732 жыл бұрын
Lol most of players are spenders
@tibbs99os422 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Good stuff. I’m 208 days in and don’t have a lot of these commanders yet but now I know what to work towards.
@snap_cracklepop5172 жыл бұрын
Just coming back to the game after about 8 months. Glad to have this video as a guide. Good stuff Chisgule!
@ignacioarangurenavila55932 жыл бұрын
Chis, when XY stacks all dmg from his 4th skill, remember that it includes normal att dmg and therefore counterattack dmg... Paired with Nevsky's 40% def+health stats and a bit of anti swarm is actually quite tanky. It will only seem squishy because its over focused, but not because of actually being squishy. As a cav player, for me its 100% worth the gamble to bring him on the field, sometimes it hurts, but most of the time is just slaying everything, cause also need to consider that everyday there are more XYs on the field, which reduces the chance of your own being the one getting focused first. Thanks for the vid bro, hello from kd 1892. Cheers.
@ignacioarangurenavila55932 жыл бұрын
This without mentioning that cavs equipment is the best in the game, for even more health and def
@DontAtMeh2 жыл бұрын
22:13 right when I heard "dethrowned" I yelled no wayyyyy🤣🤣🤣😭😭😱😱😱. Great video Chis.
@PitBull78q2 жыл бұрын
Chisgule please make content about all source all group of commanders like: which commandors have instant skill damage, which commandors do skill damage, which Just normal damage, which heals (good target for Gilgamesh) which Commander do damage over the Time. There is over 70+ commandors now? It will be nice See them put in groups
@ahmadabuali70302 жыл бұрын
That would be great
@BigKaneRok2 жыл бұрын
So, as a mid to low spender and someone who didn't have access to all of the gold heads to max the commanders when I came into SoC, I decided to do my own 5 march with the good commanders I have left over form season 1-3. Right now I have Richard/Joan, Saladin/Mina, 5511 XY/5551 Nevsky (working on max), 5115 Guan/alex, Ethael/YSG. I feel like is a fine starting point, my eventual goal with everything maxed is XY/Saladin (get some tankiness behind the xy), Mina/Nevsky, Nebu/YSG, Trajan/Mulan (Ethel in the meantime), Guan/Alex. For me that's a good middle ground and something I see as attainable since I'm still using quite a lot of the kvk 2/3 commanders that I already have expertised and won't need a trillion more gold heads haha.
@shao58892 жыл бұрын
just saying, don't make Guan Alex the final goal :D it should be Leo, 5511 and later 55x5
@BigKaneRok2 жыл бұрын
@@shao5889 yea, I should have worded it better but after I get to my “goal” I won’t just stop and not upgrade from there haha. But in my eyes it seems to be the most attainable goal for the time being. Once I get to my “ideal” 5 march I will obvious go for commanders like Leo, Amanatore/Art, William, maybe a Honda. Or maybe a new commander! I just feel like the list I picked in a competitive 5 march while still making good use of the commanders I already have. (Unfortunately when I was just starting the game I expertised Khan as my first legendary commander because I thought his double skill was super cool, so that set me back a lot).
@mida05g2 жыл бұрын
I'd say let's wait for the new inf commanders. They'll put everything upside down again faster than you can regain your goldheads
@diegofernandez32302 жыл бұрын
source? I mean, im infantry I would love this to be true
@@mida05g but that’s not reason enough. Think about Attila Takeda when they appeared or when Zenobia appeared
@mida05g2 жыл бұрын
@@diegofernandez3230 Gilgamesh counters Zenobia
@diegofernandez32302 жыл бұрын
@@mida05g but it’s not the same. What I’m trying to say is that new commanders may not be OP enough to change the meta. There has been cases (Nevsky been the latest one) that seem like they are meant to reign for a lot
@guzziiw2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Taketa applies two debuffs, one proc with 50% chance and one flat 30% more normal attack to the target
@alinaalexandra20122 жыл бұрын
just want to tell you that you are amazing 😊 and thank you for all your research and sharing with us your knowledge. If I want to know something about pairings always take your opinion and thankkkk youuuuu so muchhhh ❤
@HeyMrDJPaign2 жыл бұрын
XY loses march speed(10%) from his 4th skill so getting away from battle isn't so easy, especially since it stacks up to 6 times. He's still a threat though with all the damage he does.
@none_o_ur_bidnis2 жыл бұрын
is other skill that boosts march speed when he gets attacked helps a lot with escaping though
@sparkdrive29002 жыл бұрын
He still is in negative percentage
@GaXeL_BLiTZ2 жыл бұрын
Had all the infantry & Cavalry info focused !, but youre archer info opened my eyes chisgule, goin to work on cyrus & pair him with Rammesses, then have as back up = Nebu with YSG for AOE. + ive already invested in Artemesia / Tomyris, makes a good 3rd archer pair maybe for canyon, if the opponent is Mostly infantry 👌😁
@Maxnotcry2 жыл бұрын
Im playing Ramses YSG in an imperium and tbh its obviously not the best but im doing incredibly great with it!
@bigolglock25682 жыл бұрын
You have good gear? I was thinking ramses ysg since I have have ysg maybe nebu?
@Durmomo02 жыл бұрын
I have to believe its better than YSG/Mehmed
@uks.0362 жыл бұрын
Ram Ysg Gang AOUH
@m4do172 жыл бұрын
Let’s gooo been waiting for this
@eduardoaltamirano99832 жыл бұрын
I go with Guan Alex Nebu YSG CM Harald Sala William XY Nevsky
@jjthe2 жыл бұрын
I'd I think Guan leo and Alex Harald would be better
@bardiakian54822 жыл бұрын
I just used my Xy and nevski in our kvk and man… no march stands a chance against them because after one skill cycle the opposing march is so much less effective (when nevski uses active skill he has a 70 percent skill damage bonus that just obliterates everything)
@ghostofrok30632 жыл бұрын
Bert Nev beats Xy Nev. But no aoe and xy nev have to stand still for bert to win lol
@aresrok-pg3d7042 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video
@alial-azzam17612 жыл бұрын
Yess love these vids😁 thx chisgule
@royalmixgaming86032 жыл бұрын
Art and Tom is a lot tankier than most archer marches just mentioning it. Cyrus will pop way sooner. Tom just brings support for the team when others don’t usually use her. I use for that reason but may use amani instead soon.
@calebshaw34852 жыл бұрын
Tell me more about arte tomy bro, any tips for this pair?
@royalmixgaming86032 жыл бұрын
@@calebshaw3485 use it if you want to be a team player. Basically if others aren’t using it can help the team take targets down faster
@StefanMedici2 жыл бұрын
I disagree regarding Attila Takeda. While what you said was technically correct, what you didn't mention and is why I still think they are vital in my murderball. Sev wounds. While others might clear the target quicker ATK are going to load up their hospital, that's going to cost them rss and speedups, might even give them some dead troops. That's all going to make it harder for the enemy to fight.
@kingleonel20982 жыл бұрын
Pakal-harald is imo one of the strongest infantry marches no matter what people think every single time I take them out and they get swarmed the amount of damage they make it's ridiculous and trust me sooner or later they will get swarmed.
@diegofernandez32302 жыл бұрын
thats a fault from those who swarm the unswarmable pair
@yosiaandre24322 жыл бұрын
is it good to do alex-harald or guanyu-harald? i dont have pakal yet
@diegofernandez32302 жыл бұрын
@@yosiaandre2432 Harald Alex is better
@bandar93702 жыл бұрын
Keep it up Chisgule, I loved all the information here. Is XY with a relic Mina a thing?
@eduarddecher87392 жыл бұрын
So the 5 best marches contain Nevsky twice. I would have imagined you give best 5 marches to bring on the field, so you cannot double up Nevsky, imo.
@TJMiton2 жыл бұрын
this is not a best murderball, it's the best 5 individual marches.
@budean882 жыл бұрын
Just replace nev with saladin if u need to bring william if nevs stuck with xy
@DavidBrown-dh3hw2 жыл бұрын
what about artemesia ysg? better than ramses ysg? more tanky than nebu ysg if you don"t have the best gear? so would you prioritze investing in artemesia before nebu and amanitore if you are free to play?
@charon34442 жыл бұрын
any1 did some bertrand open field testing? is he strong? Would you recommend this combinations for 3x cav marches: Alex-William Saladin-XY Bertrand-Chandra?
@hamzaahmad31522 жыл бұрын
I’ve thought about using Bert as a supportive march and having Joan behind him. Joan gives an extra 450 healing and 25 attack boost. Hell last long on the field and buff your troops.
@benjaminjc88892 жыл бұрын
Have a blessed one yall
@zztan44272 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing ❤️❤️❤️
@locksmithsilva11632 жыл бұрын
Cheshule your great. Should I 5555 Saladin or keep him 5552
@miguelangeloteixeira69272 жыл бұрын
incredible video, what do you think RAMSES with YSG lot of damage
@shinchanganitnit81162 жыл бұрын
Hi! How about their equips is it still the same? Or there's another broken set required? Thanks!
@anis26422 жыл бұрын
Some creative marches for f2p or low spender? Using also gold key commander
@Uncle-Ruckus.2 жыл бұрын
martel harald with the relic is very good
@Mila-gx1dg2 жыл бұрын
i know some using leo 5511 with guan and still amazing trades
@solidoustopher2 жыл бұрын
I run all Cavs in the field and I really don’t want to run XY/Nev because I don’t want to instantly lose my best march/best comms immediately. I’m thinking XY/Chan, Nev/Will, Sala/Mina to harass everything around me.
@felixbellemare54942 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you switch Saladin / Takeda + GK mina instead?
@dracosubs61412 жыл бұрын
@@felixbellemare5494 don’t use gk
@justinbruce32822 жыл бұрын
If Tomyris is so overrated, why do you target her first during your murderball testing?
@hannibalgaming25782 жыл бұрын
ALAS THE VID IS HERE
@adingfukuda14272 жыл бұрын
chis, if i don’t have trajan combine with mulan, any suggestions which comm still useful pairing with mulan? i have alex, martel expertise & constantine 5522😁
@dutchmadness5782 жыл бұрын
Maybe a new video? @chisgule??
@douglasdantas21102 жыл бұрын
which commander is the best to get mge heads: bertrand, attila, jadwiga, chandragupta or saladin (already have 5551)?
@fabiogravano21152 жыл бұрын
We want INFANTRY!
@DavidBrown-dh3hw2 жыл бұрын
is there a new role for free to play? Rather than going for max damage and kills maybe a FTP could bring support marches to help the whales get more kills? What would be the top 5 support marches? Eg constantine, Mulan, Joan, Trajan Aethel behind tankier commanders so they do not get focussed. Does that work? Would it only buff your own marches or how much of the time would it buff others too? FTP would never be able to compete with well equiped whales with the newest best commanders so maybe a better role would be as a support? If constantine is great in canyon maybe having him on the field would be game changing for the murderball as a whole?
@Chisgule2 жыл бұрын
It sort of works, the problem is that you need to make sure you’re in the biggest fights to pull that off. Otherwise you’re not actually buffing people who are hitting an enemy. If this is a route you’d want to go I’d still stick with high damage commanders that have utility, such as Guan Alex (AOE Silence and damage taken boost), william (boosts rage and defense if your AOE hits multiple targets), etc.
@IIIC3YLOCO Жыл бұрын
It look like Nebuchadnezzar is staring at chisgule the whole time 👻
@MagaMan.2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if it's worth putting XY behind Saladin? I know you want the rage requirements of XY but is it worth being focused immediately? Should XY get the YSG treatment and try hiding him behind tankier commanders?
@gabriel.rene.2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you want that because a great part of his strength relies on short skill cycles. You want his active skill to blast before everyone else.
@PapaShonee2 жыл бұрын
@@gabriel.rene. yes but Saladin does provide the support skill and 150 rage after the skill cycle. It could be worth looking more into? Especially for a lower spending player and saving on the hospital bill
@ramos_pinho1172 жыл бұрын
Xy does 30% debuff so the secondary deals more damage either xy primarly or don t bother using him
@PapaShonee2 жыл бұрын
@@ramos_pinho117 debuff still helps, the rest of your murder ball
@connorbrawlstars68922 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video for this for kvk 3 and under I think it would be a good idea just a suggestion nice video 👍
@toyyetipratyusha61782 жыл бұрын
Attila Takeda is best in 2022? For open field mainly and rallies too
@knockedtfout53332 жыл бұрын
After this video I think it will be awesome to make the best 5 march murderball so people can understand how we should pair all of these great commanders together to make a nasty murderball.
@greenpeper2 жыл бұрын
- Nabu/YSG - Guan/alex - Trajan/Ethelfled - XY/Mehmed - Nevsky/William Thats THE murderball. For 6th use Amani/Arty For 7th use Honda/Tomy
@aidilfikri37642 жыл бұрын
@@greenpeper wtf xy mehmed are you crazy? Squishy asf
@tjboylan202 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any tips on how to get gold stars fast even buying bundles and doing as many challenges that gives me them I’m still running out of stars upgrading commanders
@레볼루숑-r6c2 жыл бұрын
thanks nice video!!! what do i use if i want 3 cav marches in open field??
@jingerstorm2 жыл бұрын
i have a question regarding xy, my xy is 5511, is it still a good pair with nevsky? or should i use expertised saladin with nevsky instead.
@ilikeknafs95632 жыл бұрын
probably xy, since saladins 4th and expertise doesn’t do much
@vamingxiong43762 жыл бұрын
Cortex is correct on low kill points players. Best march in open field is definitely Dragon Lancer with Lancelot. So OP only noobs would attack it.
@Whandj2 жыл бұрын
New player question: why do you flee instead of just fighting to zero in the open field? Ty
@Chisgule2 жыл бұрын
Your trades get dramatically worse the lower the quantity of troops in your march. This is an approximation but 75% or more of your sev wounds received happen when you’re below 50% troops in your march.
@Whandj2 жыл бұрын
@@Chisgule Awesome. Thanks so much for responding. I have learned so much from your channel.
@DiaBjpogi2 жыл бұрын
With Xy/Nevsky they can easily melt any march. Even infantry
@quwert72 жыл бұрын
Could you make a new guide for beginners, kvk1, kvk2, and kvk3 again, since it’s been a while and the game has changed
@kelvinzchin40332 жыл бұрын
Any news for new infantry. lilith post some poster.. any news for it?
@gainzgaming12 жыл бұрын
I'm excited for the new infantry commanders to come in and absolutely shake the meta again haha
@ilikeknafs95632 жыл бұрын
i hope so,Cavalry should never beat infantry so right now the game is very broken
@hypnos19012 жыл бұрын
what do you think of arty/YSG, used it for a kvk and got some great trades
@shao58892 жыл бұрын
just some input from me: most people think arte ysg has anti synergy due to the silencing. I used that combo and i thought it did pretty well ( not popping the skills can be very problematic tho). Then on another account i switched to Nebu YSG and boy was it better. a rage machine is just better for ysg
@astronautintheocean4202 жыл бұрын
You need make a video for people that is about to enter there first kvk like me. 95%. Most of all these commanders have not come out so far.
@Naqiuddin2 жыл бұрын
pairing for kvk1-3 never really change, so you can just refer old video.
@VeteranRanger2 жыл бұрын
Just a question why is Nevsky a secondary not the primary ?
@LxusORG2 жыл бұрын
He could be both it's Just that people just use him more likely as a secondary, because he has no AOE(Areo of effect damage) and instead they put a cav commander that does has AOE, example:XY
@VeteranRanger2 жыл бұрын
@@LxusORG oh thx for the explanation
@Elromano12 жыл бұрын
Actually it’s for a couple reasons, one of them being XY fires off skills faster than any other comm, and he debuffs, and Nevskys 4th skill boosts secondary comm active skill.😁
@TJMiton2 жыл бұрын
if you have xy, nevsky, saladin, william, what 2 cave pairs you bringing? is it just sala/will, xy/nev?
@jackrisonjoseph2 жыл бұрын
All maxed?
@PitBull78q2 жыл бұрын
Finally, cheers
@genoss51602 жыл бұрын
Question. I'm told that 2nd commanders only give 50% of value for example damage or buffs and debuffs. Is it true?
@Stabi152 жыл бұрын
You think Cyrus with Nebu also good ?
@hustleupfuel2 жыл бұрын
Chis please what should i go with my maxed alex Guan or YSG PS : I'm a very low spender / going to kvk 3
@soul22632 жыл бұрын
Guan
@hustleupfuel2 жыл бұрын
@@ruthhorowitz7522 will be saving for him
@hustleupfuel2 жыл бұрын
@@soul2263 the problem i have with him is that the second skill is not useful not like YSG will start using him with 5511
@hustleupfuel2 жыл бұрын
@@soul2263 but i think if anyways i will max one of them anyways it should eventually work right?
@soul22632 жыл бұрын
I've always locked first skill to 5. Then open all and try your luck. My Guan is 5255 with 0 resets. Might take you a few tho so be prepared
@DuckyDuckDuc2 жыл бұрын
I some equipment for a farming commander that needs to be level 30 who is the best farming commander I am 15- 17 days into the game
@amirreza83082 жыл бұрын
Hi bro I love your videos but also I had questions my kingdom is 50 day old and if I don't play like 4 months can I immigrate to a younger kingdom(I'm f2p and I have only 4 mil power)
@nickpham65262 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for this video but with scipio and boudica version
@theunknowned912 жыл бұрын
I wonder how well saladin nev does with swarming a flag....with delane too....
@santi22702 жыл бұрын
CHIS I need to know what's better though Guan with 5511 Leo or Guan with max Alex???
@Shifter5792 жыл бұрын
would be interesting i think i saw a test somewhere else. alex was better like that. leo was better when he was maxed aswell .. if i remember correctly
@jackrisonjoseph2 жыл бұрын
Guan alex, popular pairing used in OL
@benadamson60722 жыл бұрын
Great list would be better if you did the top 5 and your only allowed to use the commander once but great video
@bleb.29862 жыл бұрын
Letssss gooo hype!
@WOLF-lc9vg2 жыл бұрын
Guys anyone knows when the next inf commanders will come?
@monkeyrun2 жыл бұрын
word on the street is april.
@LinhTran-eh7co2 жыл бұрын
Good video. What do you think about XY with Mina max museum?
@Chisgule2 жыл бұрын
it's a good pair, not the best of the best but still very good
@Willistyebest2 жыл бұрын
Chisgule what is the best way to defend against 2 300 million power whales in kvk2?
@toniv73142 жыл бұрын
3 300 million power whales on your side.
@incognito24452 жыл бұрын
Why do you not place the talents?
@LobsterRavioli2 жыл бұрын
Still bringing the Richard/Alex combo. It’s like Richard/ Charles, but adding the steroids!
@yhomonte18482 жыл бұрын
CHISGULE is 3m powers with T4 Infa is good in kvk1 ??
@Legend-dn7uu2 жыл бұрын
No it’s horrible. For f2p by kvk1, most are at least 10m
@Adammoooooo2 жыл бұрын
Horrible even if ur f2p at least 8M power and every t4 except siege with a decently leveled up Richard (5111) and gems for ysg wheel with tons of sculptures to spare so yes that is horrible progression it’s worth restarting😔
@Summer_loyal2 жыл бұрын
Is it still good to bring A/T on field?
@chuckster1162 жыл бұрын
Can you do an equipment vid and a garrison vid (updated)
@ramos_pinho1172 жыл бұрын
If your commander never gets focused means he deals low damage and can be ignored so not really great
@theunknowned912 жыл бұрын
Best 2 accessories for guan/Leo?
@astronautintheocean4202 жыл бұрын
I need video for game starting commanders
@capo6972 жыл бұрын
I would swap Guan/CJ with Guan/Leo. Other than that good list.
@janihaavisto792 жыл бұрын
When would guan/Leo be useable when have maxed Alex 5154 guan.
@jackrisonjoseph2 жыл бұрын
Guan alex is good too, faster march speed than guan leo
@andrewparish9302 жыл бұрын
best mina pair?
@3vildemon7352 жыл бұрын
Will trajan 3rd skill overlap with Mulan 4th skill?
@krulidn2 жыл бұрын
yes, both passive so stack
@Limassol332 жыл бұрын
People help pls ! When migrating , it is possible to run building and science research and training or how it works ???
@ramzikamarudin28842 жыл бұрын
how is chisgule have all his commander expertise..can anyone tell me?
@thomaswilliamdasilvagomes45242 жыл бұрын
Credit card :)
@RubyInferno2 жыл бұрын
My prediction for Chis' 5 best Marches: 1) Nevsky/William 2) Guan/Leo 3) XY/Nevsky 4) Aman/Artemisia 5) Nebu/YSG
@mazakantc55322 жыл бұрын
No open field is complete without a pair containing harald and for support op trajan plus anyone and but regardless alex and some harald should be there
@dtpexyt8572 жыл бұрын
Nebu worth maxing?
@jackrisonjoseph2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, check your kd sunset canyon commanders. I'll guarantee nebu ysg pairing will be the top pick.
@wunash22192 жыл бұрын
Chisgule.. I believe you missed out bjorn and suntze~
@ljacks102 жыл бұрын
XY/Saladin or XY/Chandra ?
@Notinlive30302 жыл бұрын
You are my favourite youtuber you are tha best
@AlexanderGkamanis2 жыл бұрын
I guess my Aethel bjorn doesnt make it to the top list... lol
@med30562 жыл бұрын
What about saladin takeda
@rona60632 жыл бұрын
Ram YSG if you only bri ng 1 archer is great
@sparkdrive29002 жыл бұрын
Why is bertrand not on the list?
@Chisgule2 жыл бұрын
Because he is not an open field commander
@MrCowboyHenk2 жыл бұрын
Guan + Leo 5511 or Guan + Alex max?
@rezasoltani9622 жыл бұрын
The problem isfor 5 march u dont have teo nevsky! So either nevsky wiliam or xy nevsky
@tuanseattle2 жыл бұрын
If you are talking about the best 1v1 dueling combo in the game, Guan Leo was never the best. It was Richard Alex. It still beats every non-archer march (have not tested with archer and nevsky) even now in HA kvk, as long as you give Richard good gear (legendary gear, even better iwth items). It beats most other season of conquest marches in the game. Saladin counter is not enough. Again, I'm saying 1v1, because obviously this march does not have AoE.
@archlett2 жыл бұрын
If you are in SOC you DO NOT want to use your legendary gear on richard...
@fabiogravano21152 жыл бұрын
One honorable mention should be Guan/Pakal, Pakal bring more tankiness than Leo…
@cicue23782 жыл бұрын
I also think that it's pretty decent but not as good as leo. Leo just boosts guans damage so much and gives faster rage gain while also being tanky. But i agree it's a decent pair.