How To Ride an ELECTRIC UNICYCLE FAST! Advice and Tips! (Inmotion v13)

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chooch tech

chooch tech

Күн бұрын

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@GlitchChaos
@GlitchChaos Жыл бұрын
Friendly reminder to Colorado Riders... Lane Splitting is still Illegal here. Most cops have better things to do, but don't risk a ticket if you see a patrol car on your ride . 😉
@pasky7777
@pasky7777 Жыл бұрын
13:44 “you should be like a ghost riding this thing” best advice. It is so stealthy and silent many don’t see it coming. Find a way around people. Let them notice only when you are gone.
@pacochawa2746
@pacochawa2746 Жыл бұрын
Drivers only look for cars, you are invisible to them. Ride like everybody is trying to kill you but you cant kill them...
@Shamreactions
@Shamreactions 2 ай бұрын
Facts
@harryparris8926
@harryparris8926 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for addressing the braking wobble issue. My third ride on the V 13 resulted in an uncontrollable speed wobble which ended in a yard sale on the pavement which kind of made me wary of riding this wheel until I figured out what happened. I have about 3000 miles on my V12 ht and it actually happened last week on that wheel and I figured out that if you are going down a steep incline on pavement the contact surface of the road moves way back on the wheel so any uneven braking inputs actually push the wheel sideways instead of downward at least relative to the angle of the pavement axis of the machine.
@SHCAGO
@SHCAGO Жыл бұрын
That ski move works for sure
@bobbarnes3328
@bobbarnes3328 Жыл бұрын
Chooch, Excellent advice for urban riders. I worked for UPS for one winter and their training was spot on to your advice regarding anticipating traffic patterns in front of you to avoid stopping and traffic flow. Was great training I thought I'd never use again until I started riding an EUC.Great vid! How's the cat?
@abrash43
@abrash43 Жыл бұрын
Best advices for a crowded city. I have learned the hard way what Mr.Chooch is sharing here. Urban trafic could sound like nothing serious to some and that's because they didn't got run over by drivers that simply don't pay attention to nothing else but what is in front of them.
@CrocodileWhispers
@CrocodileWhispers 3 ай бұрын
12:20 "i'll jump into oncoming traffic"
@cocoabiscuits
@cocoabiscuits 8 күн бұрын
Don't want to startle the doggy now 😅
@byron1435
@byron1435 11 ай бұрын
Im getting my v13 this summer,i appreciate all the knowledge and tips,safe travels my dude ✌️
@cocoabiscuits
@cocoabiscuits 8 күн бұрын
How are you liking your v13?? Any issues??
@reitze01
@reitze01 Жыл бұрын
Well said Cooch! Your comparisons to motorcycle traffic invisibility and hazzards of driveways, businesses, etc is spot on. Non-motorcycle/noobs play again from 18:00!
@tonymejias8171
@tonymejias8171 Жыл бұрын
I use all your tips on my V12 HS combined with some skating techniques and some disco music and I do enjoy the riding even better.
@alexarkhangelskiy6302
@alexarkhangelskiy6302 Жыл бұрын
Awesome tips my dude! That twist as you're stopping really helped! When you told me to do that it pretty much eliminated that braking wobble for me. Awesome tip in looking ahead. That's so true. Coming from the motorcycle world, I've always heard you go where you're looking. Target fixation is real. Look where you want to go not at the thing you're trying to avoid is a tip I'd give there. Sweet riding Chooch! You're my hero. ❤
@jackvictorm
@jackvictorm 9 ай бұрын
14:30 "that would be considered a dangerous move by... people" 🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥
@tintindb
@tintindb 4 ай бұрын
Came for the ride but stayed for the camerawork... Impressed all round. Stay safe.
@BruceWayne15325
@BruceWayne15325 Жыл бұрын
Great advice! I especially appreciated your comment to always over analyze other drivers. I think this is the number one key to safe urban riding. As a truck driver I was trained to always assume that everyone else on the road is a complete moron, and to believe that they all want to do the stupidest thing imaginable at any moment. Sadly, more often than not, that ends up being exactly what they do. Learning to make an escape plan in real-time for every stupid thing you can imagine cars around you doing will go a long ways towards keeping you safe. Keeping your distance from other vehicles is also key. The idiots can't kill you if they aren't near you.
@TrueEarth369
@TrueEarth369 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video for us new riders. Your tips really helped!
@cdbrown30
@cdbrown30 Жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of things cars in traffic worry about. EUC is not one of them. Act accordingly. A ghost is a good way to think of it lol
@ruchili8194
@ruchili8194 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree w/ the carving before break thing! My Onewheel sometimes gets wobbling as the road condition got bad and I figured by carving actively would eliminate the wobbling
@GalacticalAmbassador
@GalacticalAmbassador 12 күн бұрын
One of the easiest ways to remove nearly all wobbles is reducing the PSI to 10-15. It will risk damaging the innertube and rims but at least you won't have to worry about wobbles
@DonovanWert
@DonovanWert 5 ай бұрын
Mad skills!! Been watching you for three years now! You’ve been a huge inspiration. I still don’t off-road, but I love riding in the small city I live in..❤
@danew637
@danew637 6 ай бұрын
riding EUC at that speed is basically at the mercy of other drivers... good luck my friend
@-JohnSmith-
@-JohnSmith- Жыл бұрын
One of the hardest things to avoid or anticipate is cars parked on the side of the street doing a u-turn
@choochtech
@choochtech Жыл бұрын
yes it is, same on my motorcycle. I have learned when I see brake lights or a car on on the side of the road just slow up and give them room. Hard to do it sometimes though. Drivers are absolutely horrible these days. It blows my mind every time I leave the house. Stay safe dude, cheers!
@manuelz2305
@manuelz2305 6 ай бұрын
Dude, that's such great advice. Thank you
@IkeepsItReal32
@IkeepsItReal32 3 ай бұрын
shoutout to chooch. the OG of colorado unicycles. got me into into it. wish i could ride my v13 with him. gotta flat. :( gotta get fixed
@7even285
@7even285 Жыл бұрын
Great description of carving to tame wobbles, great advice on courtesy and reading the situation (traffic parkour), and I definitely vouch for not moving your pads. Put in 1,000 klicks on my SS, then accidently moved the pads too far forward. Now I'm back to square-one trying to reconnect to the wheel. Nothing feels familiar so I just have to keep adjusting and putting in the miles until it starts to feel tight again. I won't do anything at speed until I know for sure I'm back on my game.
@Vesataeuc
@Vesataeuc Жыл бұрын
Everything that you said in the video is totally legit. I faced majority of the wobbles speed/stop etc. Thank you also for the additional tips much appreciate it!
@LexTomKy
@LexTomKy Жыл бұрын
Carving... You'd mentioned in a previous video about that sensation and compared it to snowboarding and it was that suggestion that made it click for me. When I realized you were a lightweight rider I realized that I can be pretty aggressive on my EXN and honestly need to be to make it work under me like I needed. You've been the best teacher I found online to learn how to ride this thing. There is barely any kind of PEV community here where I live and no one that rides an EUC. I feel self taught, but you have a lot to do with my riding style and confidence... Thank you for your videos and suggestions. I'm a great rider bcz of it
@arevee9429
@arevee9429 Жыл бұрын
Yup, giving yourself time to get used to a new wheel is important. I hated my Master when I got it. My other wheels are non-suspension. But once I got it out on dirt roads and Jeep trails, I could never go back to non-suspension wheels. My knees hurt for a week after a rough dirt ride on the Sherman, but even much longer, harder rides don't hurt on the suspended wheel.
@kingworthy935
@kingworthy935 Жыл бұрын
CHOOCH! Keep it up bro. I had my EUC for about six months. The wobbles are no joke lol.
@renelr12
@renelr12 Жыл бұрын
Chooch thorough as ever as always - Another super valuable video for EUC riders looking to buy a V13! Thanks for the quality and in depth info man! 👍👍
@jackzhan4933
@jackzhan4933 Жыл бұрын
so valuable, especially the mindset, thank you!
@LUSFNA48
@LUSFNA48 11 ай бұрын
Dude you go maximum breaking and maximum acceleration because you're a pro!!!!
@luischalasnyc9657
@luischalasnyc9657 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I would to see more riders of all devices to take notes. Stay safe riders!
@DaRealPeterpan69
@DaRealPeterpan69 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for makin this video, I recently bought a v13 and have bio Clark power pads because I saw you use them and like them, and I have loved everything about the wheel except havin issues with 45-55mph high speed wobbles. I message you on a couple of video ago about it, and then you dropped this video answer my questions, thank you 👊 You rock! I have a whole new respect for your riding capabilities, you make it looks so easy but you can tell how extremely experience you are by how easy you make it look, especially after riding to work (40miles) everyday myself. Keep on shredding & posting & thanks again for all the solid advice 🤙
@MistaPringles
@MistaPringles Жыл бұрын
Great advice bro! I got a V12HT and only been on a EUC for like 3 weeks. I've learned real quick that you need to have your head on a swivel, keen anticipation, be ready to make split decisions and ride with confidence. Just wish someone warned me about getting whipped by the peddles. Happened twice and wow I wrap my legs up! lol
@pacochawa2746
@pacochawa2746 Жыл бұрын
So much motorcycle stuff applies to eucs.
@fastnightlastnight
@fastnightlastnight Жыл бұрын
Seriously.
@malikonia
@malikonia Жыл бұрын
Chooch: giving old people heart attacks since 2017
@crazyeyepev9456
@crazyeyepev9456 Жыл бұрын
Great vid/advice. Its funny.....I tell the many people that talk to me and ask if it's hard to ride. Its like skiing and ridding a bike at the same time. I own a Master. It's only a little over 80lbs with my current set up and my idea of high speed on it is 35-38 mph. I have yet to break 40mph haha. Your breaking advice is spot on. It's about the only time I really get wobbles. I get them from time to time when I'm tired and have been ridding all day....that's true of us all tho haha I ride in Boston from time to time. Normally I am on a group ride so traffic is less of worry. At home (I work second shift) I mostly ride at night. At 2am the roads are DEAD around here so I can have a little fun. I try and hit the trails but the good ones are .5 - 2+ hour drive away. You hit the trails a lot......any advice for dirt track racing? I'm going to have my first taste of it in a couple of weeks. It's a clinic kind of event....practice/training....qualifying....race. Ill be happy if I can qualify HAHAHAHA
@pacochawa2746
@pacochawa2746 Жыл бұрын
Your ahead of me. Im barely getting up to 30 now.
@rhoadsnroses82
@rhoadsnroses82 Жыл бұрын
genuinely great tips here no fluff. amazing content as always sir
@garretblair94
@garretblair94 Жыл бұрын
I know you talked about breaking and acceleration percentages… What is your pedal softness/hardness at? how does it affect your acceleration and braking?
@JohnWilkieJr
@JohnWilkieJr Жыл бұрын
He was using 100% on both. On the V13 the braking at 100% will tilt you back 15 degrees and helps a lot with the weight of the Wheel but takes some getting use to. Wish all the heavier wheels had that. Be great on the ss but only minimum tilt back is built in.
@MisterGames
@MisterGames Ай бұрын
18:15 other road users have an Expectation of what speeds others should be doing
@CoLD.SToRAGE
@CoLD.SToRAGE Жыл бұрын
You briefly mentioned issues with insurance claims from drivers hitting you… my question is this. What about you hitting them? Where are you insured and who with? I’m thinking not cars per se, but hitting a pedestrian, child, dog, whatever.
@flowsolo
@flowsolo Жыл бұрын
Used to walk down the 16th street mall everyday to get to work. Woulda loved running into ya!
@knoworiginality
@knoworiginality Жыл бұрын
Same 😎
@jaefrmbk2k
@jaefrmbk2k Жыл бұрын
i knew the (lucky) 13 was gonna be a hit 🔥
@ostana5837
@ostana5837 9 ай бұрын
There are 2 elementary rules in trafic. Rule n1: Predict what the others might do - you are pretty good at that Rule n2: Be predictable yourself - not respecting this might get you killed one day
@AndresLozada-oh7ch
@AndresLozada-oh7ch 7 ай бұрын
Also, would you recommend to learn riding unicycles on the V-13?
@MisterGames
@MisterGames Ай бұрын
Guy in Queensland, Australia on an escoot (EUC governed by same laws) is on a footpath cause he is not allowed on the road as it does not meet the criteria for the type of road he is allowed on. Going past a school. Group of maybe a dozen kids blocking the path. He does a quick on the road and back on the path. Cop got him. Pedestrians have right of way. Road did not have a bike lane and had dividing lanes so he not allowed on it. Got a fine. He Should have dismounted and walked past them. Such are the rules in that state. So peeps, while Choch can do it, Know your own state and city laws.
@SchneckenTrinkenFanta
@SchneckenTrinkenFanta 3 ай бұрын
Very good info for pros and beginner 😮
@SchneckenTrinkenFanta
@SchneckenTrinkenFanta 3 ай бұрын
Please do a tutorial playlist. I like that teaching 👍
@Countryboy316
@Countryboy316 5 ай бұрын
why not follow the speed limit? they are going to ban these if people don't follow the law of the road
@TheSkyHive
@TheSkyHive Жыл бұрын
I need to find out about the traffic laws regarding EUCs in my state of WV...people can ride ATVs on the streets and roads around here, so I doubt EUCs would be an issue.
@Euchouston
@Euchouston Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chooch!
@kevinbradley3306
@kevinbradley3306 Жыл бұрын
Dude, you’re so fucking smooth and fluid on that wheel. I’m trying to get there
@mozzwigan88
@mozzwigan88 9 ай бұрын
What was your camera guy riding. Respect to him for keeping up with you
@LexTomKy
@LexTomKy Жыл бұрын
Carving while stopping is my best solution to reduce braking wobbles. They are bad on the EXN.
@roshansandhu480
@roshansandhu480 Жыл бұрын
Yeah same on the v12 hs. 2 weeks with the wheel and carving while breaking is the only way
@WillofNewZealand
@WillofNewZealand Жыл бұрын
Ive also moved feet back an inch. Feet to forward makes wheel swish like a fishes tail behind you. Yes ski stop is best description of carve stop. Downhill longboard riders also carve, they make it look easy but its not. Euc is easyer.
@JohnWilkieJr
@JohnWilkieJr Жыл бұрын
Difficult to carve while braking its better to fade left or right if you have the room when braking hard.
@WillofNewZealand
@WillofNewZealand Жыл бұрын
@@JohnWilkieJr i find it no problem at all and i ski stop usually. Unless at walking speed. I test foot placement by breaking hard in straight line. If i wobble i move feet back a cm or inch. When feet in right place i return to usual ski stop. Im practicing last second front handle bar grap and pull stop.
@pacochawa2746
@pacochawa2746 Жыл бұрын
Look where you want to go look up. You will go where you look look down you go down... Thanks Chooch very good points, but how do you carve lol. I try it then it wobbles even more?
@rrt_roller
@rrt_roller Ай бұрын
When you’re full send ripping how much range do you get?
@TreyFurlow
@TreyFurlow Жыл бұрын
Friggin Nice riding. Been on a Meepo AWD Pro for two years now and the leveling up is long overdue. I love footage where the passion and enjoyment is infectious and every move you make riding is tutorial. Fucken Thanks .
@kylecampbell2501
@kylecampbell2501 6 ай бұрын
Have you ever braked so hard that the wheel cut out on you? My v13 just did that but maybe i over torqued it grabbing on to that orange guard ?
@Ekoukson
@Ekoukson Жыл бұрын
What is this drone that you're using? I love it. Nice video btw❤
@Algader-
@Algader- Жыл бұрын
Starting with respect for the law.
@LS-jk3fk
@LS-jk3fk Жыл бұрын
ur my favorite to watch bc you go all out, no fear 🔥😎🔥 good shit bro. bout to get the v13 soon, upgrade from 2020 sherman. I want suspension and more speed.
@shibadoesntcare
@shibadoesntcare 5 ай бұрын
great video and excellent skills
@KP_Snaxx
@KP_Snaxx Жыл бұрын
Brother.....does your gloves have wrist protection....if so, can i have a link to them please.....just recovered from two fractured wrists and I'm in the market for a new pair ?
@maxvolts126
@maxvolts126 Жыл бұрын
Hey Chooch thanks for your videos! can you push for a 65mph option for next V13 iteration with INMOTION!! doesn’t mean I want to cruise at that speed but more so have effortless acceleration up to 60mph and ability to hold 50-55mph for a couple miles… I can’t be the only person who wants more speed from this wheel.?! Have you unlocked wheel -any real difference, if so?
@harryparris8926
@harryparris8926 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Vmaxfodder
@Vmaxfodder Жыл бұрын
Can a EUC launch you like a power scooter?
@Nr8k
@Nr8k Жыл бұрын
I love this video chooch could we pls get more city rides
@madenssq
@madenssq Жыл бұрын
very good tire, nice wheel, but this suspension noise... oil sus only
@A-AA-AAA-AAAA-AAAAA-b4u
@A-AA-AAA-AAAA-AAAAA-b4u 4 ай бұрын
If you cant turn left, you can always turn right 3 times :D :D
@Randyphx
@Randyphx Жыл бұрын
10:55 facts!
@atsswing8256
@atsswing8256 Жыл бұрын
thx for share to test high performance EUC V13 , What is your weight man?
@Nr8k
@Nr8k Жыл бұрын
Hey chooch do you think this could be a good beginner wheel or even the v12?
@skandinaf8748
@skandinaf8748 Жыл бұрын
Безусловно, очень круто гоняет))))👍🤘
@SacredFoods-z8d
@SacredFoods-z8d Жыл бұрын
Choooche, Brew, what drone ya using?
@AndresLozada-oh7ch
@AndresLozada-oh7ch 7 ай бұрын
Can you set the speed to go over 20-30 mph?
@emerymako4063
@emerymako4063 Жыл бұрын
As I always say to myself, is to ride it out when it gets hairy.
@wadejones9613
@wadejones9613 Жыл бұрын
That's crazy man !!
@triplex5651
@triplex5651 Жыл бұрын
What kind of camera do you use?
@pro100gamer_la2
@pro100gamer_la2 Жыл бұрын
good stuff man.
@StezzSquad
@StezzSquad Жыл бұрын
My first real unicycle!(first one was a cheap plastic one as a kid kzbin.infoUgkx4e2fa6x27dF7shCelntq0ZIKt4N0jELI I never learned to ride)So, this is a true learner, and for a C note, exactly what was needed. After a few weeks, I'm able to easily ride up and down the street. The Good: Solid frame. Has absorbed numerous spills through learning and still solid. Look - great looks, after 6 weeks of bashing Weight - it's really all tire, but as I fall I can easily grab the seat so it doesn't slam the ground. Size - Very adjustable. I'm 6', 33" inseam. I put it mostly up, but could go a bit higher if I needed to. The Bad: Not sure if it's out of the norm, but seat got scraped up quickly. Pedals - they are a bit uncomfortable and I can't get the right feel on my feet. But, they are solid and haven't been damaged at all as I've seen in reviews on other cycle's.- To address one comment about the seat connection not straight. Huh? Seat is on a round pole, you just turn it and it's straight. Either of the bad I expected to replace once I improved. I'd recommend to anyone else in the learning phase.
@revolvingrider2146
@revolvingrider2146 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chooch ❤ Living your videos, long time subscriber😊 Is it me, or did I see you, " Running a red light"?
@JohnWilkieJr
@JohnWilkieJr Жыл бұрын
Still using the same settings on the V13. 100% braking and 100% power assist?
@MathieuTechMoto
@MathieuTechMoto Жыл бұрын
That wind noise make it hard to understand the dialog
@dustinhankins2153
@dustinhankins2153 Жыл бұрын
I wanna you you rip on the EX30.
@Rojas32
@Rojas32 Жыл бұрын
The amount of red lights he passed is crazy.
@AleGalaxyEUC
@AleGalaxyEUC Жыл бұрын
My v12 ht have no range :( i want take v13 or sherman s ,im scared for range on v13 ,i hope its not as v12 ht ,its an amazing wheel but not for range and top speed .....i hope that you'll try an sherman s and begode extreme so i can understand what its better for me ,big up Chooch
@bobbarnes3328
@bobbarnes3328 Жыл бұрын
For distance...Sheeman S!
@mikelo9006
@mikelo9006 Жыл бұрын
u know u want range and u put V13 on list? Choose all the wheels with 3600Wh+ and u will be good to go
@bobbarnes3328
@bobbarnes3328 Жыл бұрын
@@mikelo9006 Hey Mike, I've been able to ride the Sherman S for over 61 miles at 28+ average speed. Still had over 25% battery left at end of ride. Notably, I weigh 133 pounds.
@JohnWilkieJr
@JohnWilkieJr Жыл бұрын
I own both so range is the question. If you ride conservatively I can get 90 miles out of the ss and 70 miles on the V13. If I ride all out at faster average speed of 35 to 40 both wheels get 45 mile range. 100 volt with less power on the ss and 126 volt and more power on V13 is about even. So riding style has a lot to do with it. It's hard to compare wheels side by side because the specs are so different.
@AleGalaxyEUC
@AleGalaxyEUC Жыл бұрын
@@mikelo9006 i know but v13 its so fxxxing hot *-* even if there are two amazing wheels
@SkeptikosUTube
@SkeptikosUTube Жыл бұрын
good advice 👍
@raptorswire7212
@raptorswire7212 Жыл бұрын
these videos are why EUCs are having hard time getting legalized
@Peeingstickymilk
@Peeingstickymilk 4 ай бұрын
You don’t buy something like this to follow traffic laws. Legal or not this is how these WILL be ridden. What would legalization even look like? 25mph speed limit? Registration and insurance? Turn signals?! Yea sounds like a blast and everyone will def follow those rules.
@jaysons8050
@jaysons8050 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what the road laws are where you're located at, but is it normal to just ride through the intersection on a red light?
@fastnightlastnight
@fastnightlastnight Жыл бұрын
A common perception is that we are treated as bicycles and typically stops aren't required by law.
@sebgro
@sebgro Жыл бұрын
Very ballsy to ride EUC in car traffic at those speeds. I’d never risk it with your body as the first impact zone
@coolhandhick
@coolhandhick 4 ай бұрын
Spoken like a supersport mc rider. Everything you said perfevtly applies to riding a motorcycle fast
@jurriaan3533
@jurriaan3533 Жыл бұрын
Got an agressive braking wobble on my v12. Impossible to manage, threw me off at 40 kph. Dont really understand what happend. I think gusty wind?? I will try the carve braking (when i have fully recovered)😢
@Raph333
@Raph333 Жыл бұрын
1- lower the PSI (28 is good) 2- dont brake with your legs straight, you have to squat ( like sitting down) 3- dont squeeze the wheel with your legs Hope this helps
@magnussorensen2565
@magnussorensen2565 Жыл бұрын
What is your take on the V13 vs Sherman-s?
@JohnWilkieJr
@JohnWilkieJr Жыл бұрын
I own both and like the stability of the V13. I get feet and knee pain on long rides on the ss. The extra range does no good if you can't use it unless you ride multiple days between charges. Also to be fair I have the street tire on the ss which makes it very responsive but gives up some stability. Both wheels are great. Can't go wrong with either one.
@magnussorensen2565
@magnussorensen2565 Жыл бұрын
​@@JohnWilkieJr I'm thinking of buying a new EUC and use it to go on a long tour in the end of the summer. So I value range a bit more but as you say both seams to be awesome. Thanks for your answer.
@JohnBoyJoy
@JohnBoyJoy 6 ай бұрын
I would never trust driving offroad in a city. You only got one tire 😂
@AdyBid
@AdyBid Жыл бұрын
And that's why they banned EUCs in Europe. :( Imagine 1,000 riders like you in Denver. Statistically 5-6 will make a lethal mistake each day. It would be mayhem. Your video should be labeled how NOT to ride in the city. I loved the advice though about breaking and how to progressively get used to a high speed EUC. Thanks!
@GzoGuitarWz
@GzoGuitarWz Жыл бұрын
That wind noise is intense. Edit the sound out! ❤
@SoulBrotherB
@SoulBrotherB 7 ай бұрын
You sound just like a young Woody Harrelson.
@Taliban-sn4rb
@Taliban-sn4rb Жыл бұрын
I dont know what it is but dogs almost always bark when i pass them
@fred-san
@fred-san Жыл бұрын
COOL !!!
@georgH
@georgH 4 ай бұрын
I really admire you for your riding skills, it's amazing! However, anything you're doing, and you would get an instant ticket where I live :/
@JohnWilkieJr
@JohnWilkieJr Жыл бұрын
EUCO has terrible customer service and don't respond to emails or phone calls. Warranty issues is a dead end also.
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