“ I don’t support bullying HOWEVER “ basically sums up all of the 40 year long saga that is chris
@Kingcobra669911 ай бұрын
I consider myself an independet observer - I would never interact with any lolcow. I would not want to aquire that bad karma 😂. But watching from afar can be entertaining.
@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace11 ай бұрын
That's how I feel. Chris isn't a good person, but bullying and harrassing him just makes you an asshole. But so many of the weens out there don't get that. You can observe Chris, but trying to harass him is just dumb.
@BergmitetheBlueandPointy071211 ай бұрын
“You should support bullying Chris ?” Perhaps soon the trolls are really going to be seen as heroes ?
@alunrees513011 ай бұрын
@@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace When I first started watching Chris Chan, I felt sorry for him, but I've been researching and watching his documentary's, he's the bully, rapist and an evil peace of shit, watch how he uses people and destroys them once he's finished with them. There's no excuse to what he did to his mother no matter how manipulative she was
@sammko453411 ай бұрын
Chris Chan needed a true friend when he was in his adolescence, say about when he was like 15-22 years old. I think one could help Chris, when he was high school-college aged. But that was 20-30 years ago. Now he needs proffesional care, and needs to be isolated from the world for the saftey of him and others.
@OathKeeperRiku0711 ай бұрын
And yet he doesn't want help, he just wants to do what he wants and not listen to anyone. When people his friends told him to not sell his dad's stuff, get a job, leave the internet, he didn't listen. To anyone who won't feed his delusions
@keegobricks973411 ай бұрын
I do think it's possible to bring chris back to reality, unless he has legitimately developed schizophrenia or something. The trouble is whenever someone tries to talk some sense to him, he can just retreat to the internet where trolls and assorted idiots will just feed into his delusion so he never has to give it up. Chris will never change unless he is physically forced to. He needs to be removed from anywhere that has internet access because it's just too destructive to him.
@sammko453411 ай бұрын
@@OathKeeperRiku07 I was talking about the adolescent Chris, when he was in his teens & early twenties.
@ANDREALEONE9511 ай бұрын
Chris needed professional help since ever.
@BahhBahhBrownSheep11 ай бұрын
@@OathKeeperRiku07people who need help often don’t want it. It doesn’t mean they’re beyond help, but it does mean they need it pushed on them in the right ways. I’m not against having no agency, but Chris is way, wayyyy beyond having freedom in this case. I really wonder what Chris could be like if they had psychiatric care, genuine medical guidance and not just time in a room.
@chelledoggo11 ай бұрын
Otaku King can be described in four words: "Oh, sweet summer child."
@TuesdaySFD11 ай бұрын
Toxic feminine phrase
@thereisa6inthename11 ай бұрын
How to spot a redditor
@SpiralPoli11 ай бұрын
@@TuesdaySFDI don't even know what that means. And I've heard men say this 90% of the time.
@atreus232511 ай бұрын
@@TuesdaySFD toxic how?
@BehuraStudio11 ай бұрын
@@SpiralPoliit comes from game of thrones where seasons can last multiple years, so a child born during summer is seen as naive/lucky since they weren’t born in a harsh 40 year winter Basically non toxic at all, I don’t know where tf Tuesday is getting it from lmfao
@rollo_linwood11 ай бұрын
"He thinks he's God and God doesn't have a big brother" such an apt way to explain so much of Christory
@Mad3bunny11 ай бұрын
I feel kind of sad for Okatu king because he did genuinely wanted to help and reliazing his mistake that there is no helping Chris. If Okatu king still has it in him to help someone else; I hope he still tries to do good though with a grain of salt because I think he is capable of doing good for others instead of chris.
@UndeadSlayer511 ай бұрын
Maybe he should use that determination to help other low cows or other potential low cows
@Basiest11 ай бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if people who try to help out Chris know that he has a whole documentary. Chris is one of the easiest people to learn about, I wonder if there is an angle of “denial” To me this really came full force with the Keffals situation. No research, no attempt to understand how Chris got to where he is now, and no acknowledgment of just how series his delusions are. I mean to me, the best way to help someone is to learn about them. If anything, these last few months are going to strengthen the “no interaction” protocol.
@Ruadhan133411 ай бұрын
I really do wish Chris was able to be helped. I wish Daniel Larson could be helped. It feels almost unfortunate, but accepting that the disabled have agency in their own lives means accepting that some will make the worst choices available, and reject any help in getting their shit together. Otaku King clearly has a very sweet soul, and seems generally optimistic, perhaps to a fault. Even if he does come around to accepting that Chris is someone who doesn't want to be helped, he'll still probably hold onto a shred of hope that, eventually, Chris's mind will change, even though in the here-and-now, it's not worth the effort to actively try and help out.
@gayforbrae569311 ай бұрын
i mean yes chris was not legally convicted of anything oj simpson was also not legally convicted does that mean hes innocent
@landonrivers11 ай бұрын
Is chris going to write his own version of that “I didn’t do it, but here’s how I would have done it” book that oj wrote?
@wolfclaw71911 ай бұрын
If the medallion doesn't fit you must acquit. ... Wait does that still track in this situation?
@gayforbrae569311 ай бұрын
no chris isnt going to talk about how he would do it if he did do it because he has already talked about how he has done it
@landonrivers11 ай бұрын
@@wolfclaw719 well it sure fit up his ass, soo…
@godmagnus11 ай бұрын
@@landonrivers "If I did it, I would have taken her to another dimension so there would be no evidence here"
@gutturalemesis11 ай бұрын
Wait til he finds out about Chris and "Niggos"
@OathKeeperRiku0711 ай бұрын
Chris doesn't like black people outside of who he sees on TV
@keegobricks973411 ай бұрын
I mean he never did anything that bad. And that was like 20 years ago, are you never allowed to change? I mean give chris some credit, he did realize white people aren't allowed to be racist, that might be the very last bit of self improvement Chris ever did, but still.
@TuesdaySFD11 ай бұрын
That’s super outdated lol
@meatbagspaai637011 ай бұрын
Oh boy wait until he finds out about JULAY, then he'll really have egg on his face.
@JogVodka10 ай бұрын
@@keegobricks9734Chris is definitely still racist especially if you endure the current issues
@BohdanKaiba11 ай бұрын
>Death Note Reference >I remember being big into Death Note in college God I am old...
@physetermacrocephalus220911 ай бұрын
The Wall comes for us all. The Anime Wall in our case.
@y-yw1ico10 ай бұрын
Not only is using anime references to try to get through to Chris okay, but comparing things to media is probably one of the only ways Chris would understand anything.
@physetermacrocephalus220911 ай бұрын
Imagine getting upset at a guy named Otaku King for referencing anime while discussing something, especially something that is on the border of discussing philosophy as it is. Otaku King is litteraly just being himself and doing his job.
@DevineInnovations11 ай бұрын
Otaku King is too mentally stable to deal with Chris Chan.
@bluetwinkiesaregood11 ай бұрын
“It was in the past” how insensitive to real victims of SA.
@redbanana684111 ай бұрын
It'll be in the future because he didn't regret it and only learned not to get caught. Someone mentioned that now he has a girlfriend, he could end up with the daughter he always wanted. What's an unrepentant incestuous sex fiend gonna do to her?
@Kingcobra669911 ай бұрын
I guess this Realisation had everybody who actually took a close look. I hate how quick these internet lynch mobs form around false allegations. Otaku King probably got a lot of flak for just being ignorant. It's sad😢
@godmagnus11 ай бұрын
That's a good reason to give someone flak. nothing stopped him from looking into Chris before associating with him.
@ghoulwhip9611 ай бұрын
I respect The Otaku King but he's putting himself in a situation
@brandensimmons65311 ай бұрын
Chris chan needs to be in an adult home because for the sake of people who's lives he has ruined I think it best for everyone he stayed there for good
@au9parsec11 ай бұрын
GiBi is a cowboy since he makes videos about lolcows on a regular basis. Anyone who makes videos about lolcows on a regular basis is a cowboy or cowgirl 🤠
@JonFawkes11 ай бұрын
I feel like Otaku King is just a little misguided with a bit of savior complex. Another thing to consider is that his Chris Chan videos are the most viewed videos on his channel, and while I don't believe he is doing this just for clicks, it is a considerable factor I'd love to see a collab between you two, I think the discussion could be interesting even if it wouldn't necessarily be productive
@Misty2593911 ай бұрын
The fact that every Chris Chan video Otaku King made got the most views on his channel should definitely NOT be overlooked. That's why I personally don't believe that he'll actually do anything. Otaku King is a KZbinr with a struggling channel, and any publicity would help him get noticed by more people. A good amount of KZbinrs who vaguely covered Chris for a little while got more subscribers the same way.
@happyjesus12311 ай бұрын
The hedgehog formerly known as ChrisChan is now Mrs. Jesus Christ. How is she not God?
@KrimsonKattYT11 ай бұрын
Chris is still legally known as Christine Weston Chandler. There are rumors/rumblings that Chris is going to try to change it again to "Christ Chan Sonichu Jesus Weston Chanler Prime" but considering how silly that new legal name is and how Chris already changed their name twice I doubt the courts will allow it. Virginia has pretty strict laws for legal names like not being allowed to name yourself slurs, swear words, or something profane, provocative, or politically motivated.
@Stoltzy9210 ай бұрын
Oh I have been waiting to find some kind of update on how this guy is doing. Oh please dear Lord get him the HELL away from Chris for his own safety and mental well-being. Chris is far beyond anything that a charity might be able to do for him. Chris does not need charity, he needs consequences and correction given to him by proper authorities.
@OathKeeperRiku0711 ай бұрын
3:14 yeah you know how annoying Chris only reference of life is shows, yeah, this is that but to anime.
@keegobricks973411 ай бұрын
If he's doing it specifically so chris can wrap his warped brain around the issues that's fine. If he's doing this because he's that obsessed with anime, it's pretty cringey.
@thecamelchannel146711 ай бұрын
@@keegobricks9734 it feels like he did it because it's something Chris would understand
@OathKeeperRiku0711 ай бұрын
@@thecamelchannel1467 I barely call Chris a fan of Neptunia or Pokemon than a anime fan
@cwf08116611 ай бұрын
I don't think Bob could pull CWC out of Jesus complex. Complex might not be CWC is dealing with, and probably is a combination of things.
@redbanana684111 ай бұрын
The past IS NOT in the past. Barb now isn't the Barb who manipulated Chris. The connotations of that are horrendous: what if she didn't recognise Chris and went along with it out of fear? What would he have done to another vulnerable family member who couldn't consent, say... Crystal? What if he now knows not to blab? Chris can't be helped because he can convince himself of anything.
@SophieStoneXII11 ай бұрын
02:50 it is when I hear this and understand the reference, it is clear that I know too much. ffs chris
@mangofarmer1510 ай бұрын
I think Otaku King is a good person with genuine good intentions. He was committed to helping Chris. But once hearing about barb it looks to me that he doesnt mean to excuse SA. But was repulsed by the idea that he was helping someone that commited SA against their mother, and was trying to maintain psychological consistency. It goes along with him having doubts about Chris's innocence. Hes barganning with himself, before accepting that Chris is not innocent and he needs to reevaluate the situation.
@Benoitt77611 ай бұрын
Do not interact with Chris. He's a dangerous person, to himself and others. At this point the only people who should be talking to him are those with phycology degrees. Take the advice of smokeymcc, and just "Don't touch the poop"
@dedmajor11 ай бұрын
Notice how OtakuKing calls Chris he/him lmao im sure Chris wont like that either. OtakuKing is almost definitely gonna get ignored now
@perhapsmoose9 ай бұрын
I'm really starting to get into your content, I agree with a lot of your views on these subjects heavily and it's nice to find a content creator making videos on topics like this that I find to be just, idk bro, based? Literally don't know how else to express it, tryna sound a bit more formal but really best way to put it is just I really vibe with your content, good stuff man
@gayforbrae569311 ай бұрын
i mean yea im not saying hes wrong but hes calling out chris and criticising him so chris isnt going to listen to him is the thing saying that i support you but that the dimensional merge is a delusion and you need to change the people who surround you is pointless because chris would have tuned out as soon as he said but
@rickymayberry999811 ай бұрын
The good ending for me is that he becomes boring again. People stop watching and donating. Of course Chris will keep uploading but no one will listen to his rambling. With no audience the people taking advantage of him move on. Chris will eventually run out of money and will have to join a facility that can watch over him. Barb will peacefully slip into oblivion. The bad ending is that this keeps going on, Chris keeps thinking he's God. People new to him keep giving him views and money. Only for him to waste it on games, toys and trips to Cons. The people taking advantage of him will keep milking him for money. Eventually Chris will do something or say something that will get him cancelled. He'll end up in the streets and Barb will peacefully slip into oblivion.
@SpaceInvader300311 ай бұрын
Chris already seems a step or two away from being out on the streets. Watch Chris get on the bad side of the praetors, like he does with everyone and you realize, it could happen very easily.
@JogVodka10 ай бұрын
Chris already got 'cancelled' I'm like the only person in my dozens of friend circles that still keep up with Chris chan news cause everyone else was so disturbed by what he did to Barb
@paulnash985111 ай бұрын
He’s a good guy (from what I can see) + he’s got a big heart that’s definitely in the right place. BUT, this is a s**cidal battle to take on. I respect him + where he’s coming from, but he’s going to get maimed + slaughtered on that hill, mainly by the slime that is Chris himself. I hope it turns out ok for Otaku-K, I really do. (For a small creator, he actually makes interesting/knowledgeable videos on anime for the layman too)
@Misty2593911 ай бұрын
Chris is just going to repel Otaku right off. He's not feeding into Chris' delusions and Otaku king is therefor: a troll. That's all that would come of it. (assuming Otaku King is serious)
@shinzetsusen720010 ай бұрын
Over/under until Otaku King gets relegated to being a "Toxic Darkest Sinner"?
@Dubious_George11 ай бұрын
Responsible Chronicler would be a great name for an album
@danthemanspear11 ай бұрын
3:14 Yagami lol more like Buu from DBZ
@keegobricks973411 ай бұрын
LCR (or gibby), you need to do a video on the consequences people who've tried to help chris have faced. To tell you the truth, as a minor christorian myself, I'm actually unaware of people who've been damaged by contacting chris. (My interest in christory has diminished ever since he started pretending to be a girl)
@KrimsonKattYT11 ай бұрын
Honestly the worst that happens is that KiwiFarms goes after you but they'll back off once they realize that you're not an easy target/potential lolcow. Extra points if you're not trans or autistic.
@godmagnus11 ай бұрын
You foreknow about criticisms about his anime comparisons.
@cbabe111 ай бұрын
Is Kiwi Farms still up? I cannot find it! 😊
@someguynamedtrevor608111 ай бұрын
Idk if it was temporarily down when you typed this, but uh, after a quick google search, nope, Kiwi farms still exist
@Leviathan39911 ай бұрын
His car is hideous lol
@Mimblesthefan11 ай бұрын
Dude gibs I got this goober showing up in my recommended he was calling you out. I have actually already forgotten their name
@LXRDKVRAMA11 ай бұрын
You mean that CCDN guy?
@knarf1111 ай бұрын
"This dementional merge: I don't agree with that."
@scoutscoodles11 ай бұрын
OtakuKing learning this shit way too late lol
@realcrunchyfrog11 ай бұрын
I felt bad for Chris and wanted to help him get his feet back on the ground... he just blocked me.
@yolo_xenophone10 ай бұрын
Im calling it now, behold we’re all members of the Sonichurch 😂
@robertprice524311 ай бұрын
This guy may be the worst judge of character I've seen on the internet in long time... Which in turn makes him a sucker... Which I believe he is more of
@606Pixels11 ай бұрын
Is he really saying that we should forget about what Chris did to his mom? Dude wtf. Just because it was a while ago doesn't mean we should think it's okay
@gayforbrae569311 ай бұрын
no please do not make chris content with an anime theme bro i dont want to have chris end up believing hes the protagonist of one of my favourite shows or some shit as well as everything else
@ShinKamaitachi11 ай бұрын
Chris' god arc is going to end in one way and one way only....
@ClownCar6668 ай бұрын
Crucified?
@BergmitetheBlueandPointy071211 ай бұрын
Redemption arc ? Don’t get so hopeful yet.
@LEMONedOblaat11 ай бұрын
Call me whatever, but I still think that Barb was more on board than what people think. Doesn't make it right because it was clearly abuse, but I think it's been abuse on both ends for a looooong time.
@mightymulatto300011 ай бұрын
If the Otaku King was truly a friend trying to help Chris, then this would have been done discreetly and quietly. He's just some Dollar Tree low budget Gibi; some guy that randomly bumped into Chris one time; who the hell is he to tell Chris what to and what not to do? You might not like it Gibi but Chris faced the consequences of his actions by sitting in jail longer than he statutorily should have. Apparently you are of the opinion that Chris needs more punishment beyond that. At the very least you should specify how for the sake of preventing some delusional person from "giving Chris the punishment he deserves'. Say how you want him to be punished and be done with it. Socially Chris is even more of a pariah and is persona non grata in the few group hobbies that he wants to enjoy.
@LoreCattleRanch11 ай бұрын
Ive stated before that I think he should be on the sex offender list, and that he should be demonetized on KZbin.
@mightymulatto300011 ай бұрын
KZbin is a privilege and it has taken tougher stances for way less; it is certainly not consistent. They should not only de-monetize but de-platforn Chris for his own benefit to end potential exploitation. Chris' name going into the registry might not be to his benefit. He's going to be an indigent pauper for the remainder of his life and no doubt will need to rely on subsidized housing; those public services may exclude people on certain lists. Listing a person probably isn't used purely as a punitive measure in every case. Besides Barb probably still loves Chris and should live the rest of her days knowing her son will be OK; there is a certain justice to that. One would hope with all the evaluations the mental health professionals concluded Chris' chances of hurting anyone else was nil with the correct support system. If some kid is found pinned under Chris in the future something got missed.
@antonydrossos571911 ай бұрын
Do people really have that much of a problem with trolls bullying Chris? What about the “buddy trolls” that egg Chris on to make a further ass of himself, or even giving $$ for his stupid cause/cult. Not to mention “Cabbage Patch”, and whoever else is behind the scenes exploiting Chris’ delusions for content?!?
@TheAnalatheist11 ай бұрын
A Light Yagami comparison was not what I expected
@bassgasmask11 ай бұрын
but isn't there a difference between bullying, trolling, harassment, and pranking?
@garethmoores4168Ай бұрын
Since Chris thinks he's Jesus/a God I feel there are some points made in the bible that contradict otaku king just trying to help. There's a line in the bible that says 'never let your left hand know what the right is doing' which I've always taken to mean do things because you can and not to draw attention to how giving and kind you are being. If he just wants to help Chris why does he have to post videos about it? He could have done good stuff for Chris without ever letting the internet populace know a thing about it. I'm not saying otaku is a bad guy I'm just a bit suspicious of his motives at the end of the day. Maybe he was just being naive since the rest of us knew the second he said anything against the merge etc Chris would be done with him.
@notoriousslick644111 ай бұрын
I'm 99% sure this guy has been on Chris' side for clout. You're telling me he ignorantly backed Chris up for around over a year without doing ANY research or being told ANYTHING about Chris' past? His lack of knowledge/awareness regarding Chris' history is not plausible at this point. P.S.: Hey GiBi, good video and content, but could you turn the input volume up?
@TuesdaySFD11 ай бұрын
He seems tism enough that I disagree
@SpiralPoli11 ай бұрын
Bullying Chris is at this point one of the least problematic things to do. I don't encourage weening, but whatever trolling and harassment Chris gets now is well deserved. And it's been well deserved ever since the racism, homophobia, shecameforcwc, running over Michael Snyder, etc. When people say Chris "needed a friend" they forget that he had actual friends. And he alienated and hurt them all.
@coinboy8611 ай бұрын
I have a question: Why do people advise against trolling Chris Chan, but people also believe that EDP is free reign when it comes to trolling? They’re both lolcows that need mental help.
@KrimsonKattYT11 ай бұрын
Yeah especially since EDP was permabanned from every social media while Chris still has all their accounts. Chris is still extremely active. EDP is pretty much a dead channel because of his cancellation and the reveal that he's a p-word.
@wolfetteplays889411 ай бұрын
Racism and nostalgia. that is why.
@JogVodka10 ай бұрын
Cause Chris's situation is a bit more nuanced where trolling him can just further feed into his delusions and a lot of trolls will donate money to him and that's like not a good thing to do a guy who recently SA'd his mom
@swiftwolfcoyotesalt11 ай бұрын
We don't know for sure what happened and to say anything otherwise is counter productive
@StarFyodperor9 ай бұрын
Dear GiBi... Just because You failed to help Chris does not mean that everyone will fail to help Chris. And He really needs Help. Null helped as much as He could, but his patience and temptations got the best of Him. There are better people in this world who genuinely help those in need.
@LoreCattleRanch9 ай бұрын
K
@nelbraudo-44111 ай бұрын
WTF?!
@smitefulaxe134411 ай бұрын
What are you WTF-ing about?
@mr.generico38611 ай бұрын
Welcome to Finngolia
@CallMeFreakFujiko11 ай бұрын
I kind of hate people who defends rapists.
@KugelBlitz011 ай бұрын
Only kind of?
@Misty2593911 ай бұрын
If Otaku King thought that he could genuinely save Chris, he would've tried already. This just screams: "Notice, me, Senpai!!" And it'll give him the 15 minutes he wants but in the grand scheme of things, he's not going to get anywhere. No one is going to drag Chris into an asylum and the more Otaku tries to "help" Chris, the less Chris will even want to interact with him.
@perplexedprincess11 ай бұрын
how is chris’s transition “trans blackface”???
@KaiDecadence11 ай бұрын
It all is to be honest. There's no such thing as "true trans", it's all fake and it's misogynistic because there's nothing more hateful to womankind then saying that anyone can be a woman if they just "identify" as such. Chris is not anymore different than the other men who think they are women for the most shallow and arbitrary of reasoning. It's just that compared to the others, he's more socially unhinged about it lol.
@Leviathan39911 ай бұрын
@@KaiDecadence agree but, I think it's kind of hypocritical coming from you.
@randomkriegsman844411 ай бұрын
What I think GIBI is trying to say is that because he believes Chris transitioned to have a chance of dating lesbians and not out of an earnest desire to be a woman this is quite mocking to the trans community much like how blackface is mocking the black community.
@perplexedprincess11 ай бұрын
@@KaiDecadence actually, there is a lot of medical reasoning for transgenderism. google is free
@KaiDecadence11 ай бұрын
@@Leviathan399 Why? Because I like to look feminine? Sorry but no, if anything, it should make sense why someone like me sees right through the trans lie. I like to look feminine but I know that femininity =/= woman, being an adult human female is what makes one a woman. I'm not the one calling myself a woman of any kind just because of how I like to present. That's the difference.
@afalsegod502211 ай бұрын
He's wearing a shirt with a highschool girl in provactive clothing this man is not morally good
@KrimsonKattYT11 ай бұрын
It's a fictional anime girl who cares. If she looks like an adult she's legal, at least in anime world. And due to Moe the ages of high schoolers in their late teens and young adults gets blurred HEAVILY. If it was an IRL highschool girl there would be a problem but it's literally just an anime character with big boobs and other assets. Canonical age is irrelevant when it comes to the legality of drawings, only their physical appearance matters.
@wolfetteplays889411 ай бұрын
Who cares? Freedom of expression. it is just anime.
@wolfclaw71911 ай бұрын
Chris is like the Demon core; a scientific oddity that could be fascinating when studied from afar but incredibly detrimental to the health of anyone in a 100 meter radius if even the slightest thing happens in his presence and I doubt the Otaku King is packing that much Radaway so he needs to gtfo for his own safety
@Hammerhead54711 ай бұрын
I'd say that he's more like a black hole. Anything and anyone that has the misfortune of getting within his purview instantly gets sucked into the event horizon with no chance to ever escape.
@avadoksorem285411 ай бұрын
Gibi. You are the last person in the CWC sphere who has any business downplaying the reality of abuse between Barb and Chris. Barb groomed Chris into desiring her his entire life and abused him in various ways during those 40 years. What Chris did you her for a few weeks, through decades of manipulation on Barb’s end, does not compare to the literal lifetime of abuse Barb put him through. I really thought you would be able to understand that. I suppose I was wrong and I pity you for that. Fight the real enemy.
@LoreCattleRanch11 ай бұрын
I think youre confused. I didn't downplay anything, I criticized otaku for downplaying the incident and said doing so is bad for sexual assault survivors. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
@avadoksorem285411 ай бұрын
@@LoreCattleRanch perhaps I misunderstood. Although you really should start shining some light on how Chris ended up desiring Barb in the end. I get Chris is the more interesting person to talk about, but Barb’s influence on Christory should not be overlooked or understated. What Barb went through was ultimately the result of her actions, not Chris.