Chris Kaba revealed as 'core member' of one of London's most dangerous gangs | LBC

[@lynnelowery8435]

Kabas family wanted transparency about the police, but wanted her sons criminal activities kept hidden.

[@traceyrhoden9808]

Spot on

[@daveotter7942]

@@traceyrhoden9808 Agree! And I am a do-gooding liberal!

[@susanplatt5331]

The law would have kept it hidden for the court case because that's how no bias work's.

[@2nhalfpints]

@@daveotter7942your a melt then Socialism doesn't and never has worked. It's a fantasy

[@poppypap596]

They are talking about after the court case

[@mamafreaky]

The family knew about his history. I'm sorry but coming from a black family my mum won't show her face knowing her son was a criminal.

[@elainekerslake6865]

And your mum is normal honest lady.😊😊😊 Be proud of her

[@Waseem_Amin]

i dont think being a crmnal means the police have the right to shoot uou of somethting they did not know at the time of the shooting hence making it irlevent.

[@CB-hv2dg]

@@Waseem_Aminhowever if drive a 2 tonne car that has a police marker on it linking to a firearms incident, and then use it as a battering ram to evade arrest whilst surrounded by armed police telling you to stop, you may end up being shot.

[@BabyJellyfish]

@@Waseem_Amincan’t even spell, why would anyone listen?

[@ericreckless541]

@@Waseem_Amin I have explained above why he was shot. His behaviour at the time of the incident was endangering the lives of the officers in attendance. He was shot to stop him killing or maiming police officers not for any other reason. The police had no idea who he was or what he had done at the time of the shooting.

[@arturobandini4078]

From the moment he was killed, the family and BLM tried to paint Kaba as a sort of Steven Lawrence, all the while knowing he was just another Mark Duggan.

[@htcsensationxl8956]

That comment may be slanderous where B L M is concerned. I'm not condoning Gang Crime but commentator's have mentioned that one of the duties of the Police is to remove Gun's from the Street's. It has been added further that the Metropolitan Police should have found another way to bring Mark Duggan to justice rather than the entrapment method used by encouraging an informant to set up Mark Duggan by allowing Mark Duggan to obtain the Gun.

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

Who are BLM? His family, people who knew him and police/court system were the only ones who would have known about his criminal history before the information was made public a few days ago.

[@Sha-Ayo]

True, the family likely mislead the supporters, I know many wouldn't be campaigning for it if it was knon​@@Pining_for_the_fjords

[@paulc1553]

Kabas family wanted police transparency, but wanted her sons criminality withheld.

[@Waseem_Amin]

yes beacuse its relevent was the police officer did not know this whne shooting a black man

[@lancefletcher6553]

That police officer should be able to sue the CPS for forcing this trial on race grounds .

[@ScruffyTubbles]

No there was still some evidence that he was killed because of his colour. Like that or not. The idea was to get away from the feeling that this was a police execution based on PNC intelligence.

[@killerkally7080]

So you think the police should just be allowed to shoot criminals? What about arrest and put on trial?

[@alastairwallace6153]

no - nothing to do with race, stop trying to incite more violence - yes he should be able to sue - for the fact that he has been put in danger from his name being released - it is normal for court cases to happen when someone shots a suspect.. its due diligence and needed to say yes it was lawful.

[@ScruffyTubbles]

@@alastairwallace6153 It isn't malicious prosecution.

[@simonread3140]

His mum wanted the truth hidden…I wonder why 🤔

[@anotherhurayra2024]

his mum must be devastated her lil devil cant let off gun in clubs and around the streets of east london

[@anthonytaylor7590]

She won't get her racism grift payment

[@lynnelowery8435]

@@simonread3140 I think the families finance need looking into. Their unemployed son ,was driving around in an expensive car. How much did they benefit, from their son being involved with one of the biggest drug gangs in London.

[@wilko-e4j]

His mum is an embarrassment

[@Waseem_Amin]

how?

[@CB-hv2dg]

@@Waseem_Aminhis family want full transparency from the police but asked the judge to extend the restriction on reporting his criminal activity. Why? Presumably because it undermines their attempts to portray him as a victim of police violence and racism. His mum should go and grieve in private. There was no part of his death that had anything to do with the colour of his skin and attempting to make it seem otherwise is an insult to black people who do suffer unfairly at the hands of the police.

[@crossx695]

His family is demanding justice but it seems NOT for the victims of THIS criminal gangster!

[@Twisteverything]

If his family are listening to the media, the should see that justice had been served. Maybe mum should have taught him right and wrong.

[@Patronisingpaddy101]

We knew all this because it was all over twitter. An aspiring architect my as s . The guy was a monster. . Perhaps interview his ex who has a restraining order against him for DV

[@htcsensationxl8956]

That's mass generalisation, as I never knew that

[@DukeDanseMacambre]

@@htcsensationxl8956what’s being generalised or being considered a generalisation? Guy was horrible, shot and stabbed people, even as a child.

[@user-he2uf6tf3y]

Architect of his own demise !

[@alfaV6boy1]

If the police officer was white and the 'victim' white, would anyone even be talking about this? Answer, no.

[@jonnyboy8000]

Yes,!

[@franklingoodwin]

They would, yes. Don't race bait

[@Mike-rp6sb]

Yes

[@terrypoole6138]

No they wouldn’t it’s only because he was black that everyone is crying about it

[@simongray2533]

We absolutely would not be talking about it. The media would've either reported it minimally or not at all. Just look at the difference in coverage between Stephen Lawrence and Kriss Donald for an example.

[@fabiennemitchell2371]

The police could not merely immobilise the car. An unknown person was driving a car that was used as a get-away vehicle in a shooting the day before, and previously. The driver's behaviour, when asked to pull over, made police afraid that the same shooter, of the day before, was the one behind the wheel, and probably armed. The ramming of police vehicles could have led to the knocking down and killing of police officers. A NG verdict was the correct verdict - although very sad.

[@scottycrayon]

He was a dangerous criminal.

[@AKHill-gj2uy]

And?

[@vincentblack7467]

Family after compensation... Always the case....

[@napoleonbonaparte-o2m]

gibs me dat!

[@Jennyeq]

You're surprised - they have been fleecing us brits state since the moment they stepped foot on our land....

[@CB-hv2dg]

I think they’ll struggle with this one…

[@wr9209]

Mum knew he was a bad lad but…victim mentality. I’m sure the parents of the kid her son was shooting at also feel ‘injustice’.

[@Adamag745]

And the kid who was shot at older brother died 10 years ago

[@david1731048]

Parents of gang member who shot people (including probably other black men) complain that their "lives don't matter" 🙄

[@BelleSebb]

Probably many black men 🤦🏾‍♀️. I only watched the attempted arrest video yesterday and when he started ramming the cars around him I rolled my eyes. What did he expect to happen 🙄. What a waste of public funds.

[@jamessomers8955]

Looks like he really was an architect...........of violence.

[@Callofdootie]

He used a car as a deadly weapon. It’s a case of f around and find out. The boy found out.

[@josephinepalfreyman6665]

Kaba's mother should have put more effort into raising a decent human being rather than trying to protect his non existent reputation. I understand that he was asked (shouted at) 16 times to get out of the car, what else would any reasonable person conclude except that he would have done anything to get away, including running over a police officer,

[@RandomVideosFirst]

More information has been released that says he was a core member of the 67 gang in South London and that he was involved in a club shooting days before, my question is why did the met police hand the officer out to dry for two years neglecting this significant information being published. THE TRIAL WAS SUCH A WASTE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY !!!!

[@brianferguson7840]

Don't be silly ! Nobody withheld anything. But to make evidence public would be a huge miscarriage of justice and would have led to an undoubted misstrial. Justice has been seen to be done.

[@j7ech402]

Corbyn has suddenly gone very quiet after all his pathetic involvement in those gross "Justice for Kaba" protests

[@s6edge706]

The investigation was correct.. Checks and balances are needed in a democracy.

[@kevinsimpson-dw6vu]

yep, as was the verdict by the jury.

[@poppypap596]

Politically led

[@andybeans5790]

It's done more to get to the truth than a simple police investigation or a long-winded public enquiry

[@Dadsterful]

So he wasn't a loving father and pillar of the community after all? Poor O'Brien will be most upset

[@DavidBrock-e8l]

He didn’t say he was 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@quaverboy63]

@@DavidBrock-e8lbut we know he will be

[@johnledington6242]

If Mr Kaba had led a normal law abiding life not a life of criminality he'd be alive today, if you choose to live by the gun then dont be surprised if you die by the gun

[@ak_athariyyah]

Although to me it seems his death was unjustified and incorrect. Your words are spot on. If he did not partake in a life of crime he would not have end up in a police chase and getting shot.

[@paulc1553]

I wonder why the Mum wanted the truth covered...

[@stuc3195]

He turned out to be a usual suspect after all

[@chrisspencer6502]

Doesn’t matter, the police are supposed to bring the guy in. They smoked him without seeing a weapon, imagine you’re pulled over with the same intelligence but wrongfully ID

[@stuc3195]

@chrisspencer6502 he wasn't wrongfully I'Dd. The car was identified in a shooting. He himself had shot someone just a few days before, in a nightclub! and was a core member of a violent gang. That's probably why he was not worried if he'd killed any of the officers whilst escaping.... You make it sound like he was driving back from choir practice when the police wrongfully stopped him. Until people start calling out violent gang members for what they are. Instead of trotting out excuse after excuse, they will always be a danger on our streets

[@alfaV6boy1]

@@chrisspencer6502 He drove at them in a car, used a car as a weapon.

[@IMBlakeley]

@@chrisspencer6502 He had a car and was trying to ram his way out, it is the closest thing to suicide by cop we've seen for a while.

[@Ramblingpete]

Thats why he has gone he was destined not to live long

[@Biter1975]

Disgusting the officer ended up in court. The shooting should absolutely have been investigated but this is woke madness.

[@DRobbo7798]

It's awful to say, but the area he 'operated' in is a bit safer to be now he's not there...

[@originalArchie]

Stormzy has gone rather quiet now 😮

[@carolineclarke6490]

Does anybody still believe the media? I certainly don't.

[@deanjones6149]

Play silly games and you'll win silly prizes.

[@kb4903]

What a wrong un.

[@michaelsimpson4400]

If stopped and you then decide rather than staying stopped decide to drive your car at a police officer who has his gun drawn then I dont see why they got anywhere near trial. This is ignoring who was driving or their history. Add in the police intel on the car. Its a joke.

[@dailystriver2727]

Who he was and what he done had nothing to do with in that moment with that encounter with the armed police. They only knew the car was involved in stuff they did NOT know of Chris Kaba and who he was in the car or what he did. So they would have done this to anyone else. Even if it was a law abiding civilian who tried to get away by driving off. RIP Itch ❤ Real Squeezer

[@scottrogers7917]

Now arrest the other members of the 67 gang

[@davidsayer3325]

Violent career criminal looses his life committing a violent act. What about his victims and the police officer . All about the criminal why?

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

Why does he have thousands of fans?

[@MarkitaOliver]

They criminals too😮

[@kevinsimpson-dw6vu]

The left love a wrong-un

[@1gerard47]

Colour.

[@dg-wb4xg]

What about an investigation into peter lynch to see what happened to him

[@JAMESLOONEY-kd1nu]

He committed suicide

[@MaryKate-qh4iv]

Does sound like a decent contributing member of society.

[@SandeepMann-d1v]

He was literally in a gang. We all know what you do when in a gang

[@HALFTONE44]

The Bash Street Kids never got up to any of these shenanigans , they were too busy committing merry japes and harmless jests.

[@joebloggs8422]

A real pillar of the community 😮

[@kevinjames632]

I seen a 13 year old boy get done for rioting and his mother had the blame for not bringing him up right ??? Are we all going to do the same and point at mans perants and poin fingers to his parents for bringing him up to be a violent criminal

[@IMBlakeley]

I've been stopped both by armed police and armed military which is way more worrying when you're relying on a nervous teenage squaddie not to panic.

[@graemebuchan8142]

😂was that teenage squaddie!! always hard card A.

[@philipthomas3629]

with half of South London knowing Kaba's history of gang membership and violence what is the justification for withholding this from a jury.

[@richardkerry6552]

Shelagh,hold your head in shame..... the guy was a crim.... simple.

[@DS76204]

It's really really simple. If you break the law, you run the risk of consequences that may include getting shot in certain circumstances. He was attempting to ram a police car with zero thought for the policemen's lives, so there you go.

[@Billy-p6x2w]

This is like somone thats been a victim of a voilent crime ' but the victim being put on trial rather than the offender ' glad its been sorted out ' now give that policman a knighthood🤷‍♂️

[@jamiewilliams829]

Bringing up a dead persons criminal past is like rubbing salt into a wound

[@robertaskew3677]

I bet espthe victims but they don’t matter do they?!

[@ericreckless541]

@jamiewilliams829: Necessary to bring up his past in order to stop fools rioting to demand justice for an innocent tainee architect. Now people realize what kind of person he was, they will be less inclined to take to the streets. Simples

[@pauloakes5718]

Just goes to show we all need to wait for the facts. Admittedly I was guilty in my judgements. Life goes on if your lucky👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@anngant6034]

You never need to be in contact with the police unless you are a victim Don't invite trouble

[@chatham43]

He was just a misunderstood kid who went off the rails. I smell an appeal.

[@brianferguson7840]

You can't appeal a unanimous Not Guilty verdict in crown court !

[@asmith6647]

My LBC have changed their tune. They were behind his case until it was revealed he was a dangerous man with a record of gangster history!

[@kakrock5568]

The Family have been happy to live off Kaba's 67 gangland money for years. Even tried to milk his death for money. Despicable.

[@Valhalla-or8mx]

This business of no go areas and certain groups ruling different areas has to stop..Policing and sentencing has to be completely equal across the board with no exceptions..Look where making allowances has got us..a completely divided society..

[@eziozomparelli2079]

Similar story happened in italy now the policeman has to pay for his own lawyer, not only was been attacked by someone inlligal with a knife but had an history of crimes.

[@badgerbane]

Sometimes justice moves slowly. Sometimes it travels at muzzle velocity. This is the latter. The true injustice is dragging the officer who stopped a violent lunatic through the courts. I'd say this no matter his race by the way, before the baiters move in.

[@kamelkamel4952]

Educate your kids. I see them on the street then parents say he was an angel, cal…no he was a mess to the society

[@goldenboots507]

He was honest as the day is long.

[@Antonia-t3p]

I dont think the non disclosure of past criminal offences can stand up. The police officers would have known and their actions would have been influenced by that information. That would therefore effect whether those actions were reasonable or percieved as reasonable by the jury

[@martinackbar7876]

true facts

[@Mark-zb6oh]

@@martinackbar7876 They didn’t know who was driving

[@lat123x]

Mr Little said: 'At the heart of this case is the decision making of one man and whether that is legally justifiable or not. 'In this case, a life is, in an instance snuffed out with a supersonic weapon, a shot to the forehead, not the central body mass when the driver was stationary. 'The footage is often shaky or difficult to view. The eye, you may conclude, would see better than that. 'What don't you see? Well you don't see the Audi being driven directly towards the defendant, nor a consequential move to the right had he sought to avoid being killed as he was to claim in the first statement just hours after the incident.

[@Frankie3-q1d]

Simple Really if Armed Police Officers ask you to comply you comply. Choosing not to as consequences He was Warned he chose not to listen.

[@akbar657]

shelagh fogarty is the type of person who would say hamas are the people that killed him.

[@EjnrTV]

He was wedged inbetween a parked up Tesla and a BMW X5. If you know about cars you know trying to get past those two cars blocking your way is a challenge in itself. Chris couldn’t force his way past the cars which is clear from the video. He was struggling to getaway. All the other officers on foot positioned themselves on the sidewalk out of the way of danger. The only officer who may be at risk was the officer in the passenger seat of the BMW X5 and he didn’t suffer any injuries. So Blake could have given two warning shots through the windscreen to show he’s not messing around. Even 1 warning shot through the glass would have been enough! Before deciding to shoot the driver IN THE HEAD! not even his shoulder or something. Right in the head. On top of that they only had information on the car at the time and not the driver. It could have been anyone driving inside!

[@kristinrutherford8779]

the audacity of these idiots is not surprising actually

[@Sneggers]

Chris kaba cheerleaders are all very quiet today 🤔

[@martinrooms3084]

Why did it take 2 years?

[@amy21106]

There is no more shame in some people. All so selfish

[@sandraowens4821]

I feel sorry that they have lost their son, but read his parents are Congolese. How and why are his parents living in the uk?

[@1gerard47]

The mother has lost income.

[@johnd6913]

Free derek chauvin next please

[@ianpalfrey8744]

Sadiq Khan must come out in support of Chris Kaba and his family.

[@hamonryechinaski180]

Comparing shooting Kaba and firearm officers to the 4 guys who've been exposed as wrong uns with women? Really?? Fogarty is a coward when it comes to Israel but so very hard when it cones to kicking easy targets... Gimme a break. Get that lady Sargeev (?) back!

[@paulblack8887]

Can they send the family to Rwanda?

[@Ukboss1]

Why is the officer faceing misconduct charges then 🤔

[@AustinPowers704]

Like the old saying, you can get them out of the jungle, but you can’t get the jungle out of them.

[@lordfarquaad7896]

Every mother should love their child unconditionally…. And some children are nasty, very nasty. Both those statements can co exit and they don’t cancel each other out. All my sympathy for the police officers; and vehicles are weapons. Transparency should be complete, not just one sided. His mother wanted transparency from the police but didn’t wish to be transparent about her son’s past? A past that is very relevant and gives testimony and insight into the person’s values and behaviour.

[@ivaylodaskalov7054]

Of course it shouldn't have!! If you ain't part of a gang aka group of cowards, you ain't going to end up dead while young, simple!!! My full support goes to the police officer!! No to gangs and knife crime!!! Cowards

[@Ramblingpete]

Yes just another African Englishman gangster gone 👍🏿

[@heytigers3104]

SAD!

[@longshanks90]

I think it was justified and he was clearly a gangster but I can't take anything as fact by lbc as they are possibly the worst media outlet in Europe so he could be everything that was just said but I need to confirm with reliable outlet

[@ScruffyTubbles]

Thos evidence was so prejudical it couldn't be adduced tbh (rightly or wrongly). Though it shows why the Judge put a case to the jury. There's no way as some on here were saying that there was 'no evidence' of his previous bad character.

[@Michael-yz4mc]

He was linked to 5 shootings prior to his demise. 5!!!!

[@peterjones596]

Hmm.. He was a wrong'un and he died trying to amke an escape which could have harmed police officers. I'd like to see footage of it to really know, but it seems like this time the police officer called it correctly. Should ther have been a trial? Yes, every time anyone dies at the hands of the police, or anyone else, of course their should. I'm not so sure as to whether the officer should have been named, though.

[@dannyboi472]

Imagine. My. Shock

[@ak_athariyyah]

From what I understand the officer shot him when he had taken his hands of the steering wheel and stopped driving. If this was the case his death was unjustified regardless of his criminal background.

[@keicbell]

The jury, who saw all the video and audio evidence, as well as the testimony from witnesses and officers, decided differently.

[@htcsensationxl8956]

That might be an argument, but unfortunately I think as soon as someone put's an Armed Officer's life in danger, that Police Officer has the right to neutralise that threat. Who's to say that Chris Kaba would not have returned to use the vehicle as a deadly weapon

[@harrymail7]

Also the car is being stopped for firearms. The last thing they would want you to do is take you hands off the steering wheel where they can't see them

[@RRC905]

Why does this man have a females voice.

[@Nightstalker321]

The kaba family epitomise what is wrong with this country

[@max-nm6qx]

Fella you supporting murderers 😢

[@craphead9842]

Who cares.... Tony cuenca

[@elainekerslake6865]

Arcitect drawing lines. County lines. Nice little earner for the family😊

[@poppypap596]

You reap what you sow

[@TrippyPepe]

This comment section really shows you want a two tier system. Imagine being angry that a trail happened when someone got shot. Shouldn’t go to trial, anyone who sees online videos know everything?

[@susanplatt5331]

People think they're know it all armchair detective's since they engulfed themselves in social media. It's pathetic.

[@Bigspins21]

Nobody’s saying two tier policing now are they 🤔

[@davidwestwater2219]

I cant believe what eat that terribly weak police commissioner said

[@julianaoyewole3251]

I thought the police mans job is to arrest, detain, and prosecute, since when do they become judge, jury, and executioner.

[@brianferguson7840]

They haven't. They don't. And they didn't.

[@djones-np8ik]

CPS prosecutes once the suspect has been detained and subsequently arrested. If the suspect causes Firearms Officers to be involved the suspects actions become responsible for their fate. Armed and violent people are a risk to themselves and the public.

[@harrymail7]

When armed police deem you a immediate lethal threat to members of the public or other officers. They will take lethal actions themselves.

[@sarryuken8786]

They're not police!! They're Armed Response Unit (ARU)

[@harrymail7]

@sarryuken8786 Armed response unit. Who are apart of the police force.

[@richardkerry6552]

How did the go fund go?......

[@Englishman4412]

Gang gang.

[@magmcmahon9038]

Typical black answer 😮

[@senanshortt5521]

Wats that supposed to mean?

[@magmcmahon9038]

@@senanshortt5521 everyone else is in the wrong

[@jonnyboy8000]

Could somebody explain to me why an officer would stand in front of a moving car does putting himself in danger I see this on American videos police videos and I always think it's strange by putting yourself in front of vehicle you are risking your life

[@justinconnolly66]

It's called bravery, putting his own life in danger to stop the criminals endangering others.

[@pedrodormer6059]

@@justinconnolly66😂 don’t be daft.

[@brianferguson7840]

​@justinconnolly66 It's also called doing his job. That's what police officers do. If you can't grasp that concept, then it's just as well you aren't in a job which requires courage and judgement.

[@jonnyboy8000]

@@brianferguson7840 I may not be a police officer. I haven’t had firearms training. I am I’m not superhuman but I’m smart enough to know if an engine is running and I’m trying to stop a car. I don’t stand in front of the car because I know it will run me over tell me I’m wrong.

[@DanielWynn-v7b]

@@jonnyboy8000 you’re definitely about 12 years old.

[@nokking1108]

He did not drive the car at the police, he was trying to get away, there is a difference. The reality is, it is hard to find justification for killing a black man.

[@Mark-zb6oh]

The police were in front of him

[@backupaccount2394]

@@Mark-zb6ohhave u watched the clip in full- initially the police weren’t in his path, they were at the sides. They decide to jump directly into his path (whilst he’s trying to drive off), and shoot him literally a second later. Police are definitely not trained to do this

[@nokking1108]

@@Mark-zb6oh They jumped in front of the moving, car, like I said, you can always find justification, for killing a black person. If Chris was white, I am 99% sure he would still be alive.

[@VictorVictory-ht2cp]

Sheila blaming Hamas?

[@jasonsweeney5133]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 no luck

[@fats3973]

This is a family grieving for a son, not a family out for compensation, and please try to remember parents rarely know the full sordid details of their loved ones actions outside the home, so try to understand what they are going through, the law will do what the law allows.

[@ericreckless541]

@fats3973: So his family did not know he had been in prison for four years for threatening people with an imitation fire arm. Did his family not know he had been in trouble for knife crime from the age of 13? Did his family not know there was a restraining order against him because he beat up his pregnant girl friend? Do you seriously believe this?

[@brianferguson7840]

I know you're being ironic but please don't inadvertently give credit to lunatic conspiracy theories and those justifying the actions of a horrible criminal best removed from society.