Chris Lehto - UAP Eggs - Jake Barber - BLC1

[@ChrisLehtoF16]

Great chat Simon! Thanks for having me on

[@JonnoPlays]

Two of my favorite creators ☺️ 👌 💯 I really enjoy this type of exchange where both people aren't exactly on the same page and get into the details a bit further. Great job getting Chris on the program, he's the real deal!

[@bradharris1062]

Def people o don't feel are bs. As close to on the level as it gets

[@MenschSeinLeben]

Dear Prof Simon, dear Letho - I am pleased to hear and see what you both exchange and share with each other. It is incredibly important to speak openly with each other. Thank you for this public discussion. Greetings from Germany 🤍

[@iainriley617]

I'm more interested in clean energy suppression, Obviously there are weaponizations. But it's the idea of cheep/free/clean energy over petro power and how lives could be improved if it wasn't for big oil and plastics .

[@dextermorgan1]

Same. That's also why we'll never get full disclosure. We've had free energy tech since the 50's. Possibly earlier(Tesla) it pisses me off to no end that we are still using fossil fuels in 2025. We have not had any real advancement in propulsion technology since the 50s or 60s. We're still using Rockets like we were decades ago. The average person has absolutely no idea there are better ways but those ways don't suit the interests of Big Oil.

[@mattfrancis4569]

yea tesla was taken

[@A_Better_Mindset]

The Lost Century… top doco

[@lindabryant4292]

Professor Simon, sometimes you just make too much good sense and take all the fun out of it. LOL. Thank you for telling me about vacuum foam. Suddenly it all became clear. 🧡

[@SimonHollandfilms]

You bet!

[@Yewbzee]

Chris pouring cold water on the aerogel theory.

[@kevinthompson9151]

@@Yewbzee yeah vertical movement but no super fast movement so not David Favors tic tac. Also vacuum at high altitude how would it get from 80k feet in a second as seen on several radar systems ?

[@SirAanonym]

Chris is extremely prejudice to all gels. He won’t even use certain hair products.

[@andrewfulton3435]

Chris has great hair stfu

[@TheThetruthmaster1]

Great aro gel could make a thing float . It won't make it go mach 3.

[@Tobable]

I still think Simon is absolutely on the right track. He's brought great insight into the advanced tech discussion. Just because the aerogel doesn't explain the advanced propulsion part doesn't mean that tech can't be nested inside some of these aerogel casings.

[@jaxonboys3366]

The helicopter on the egg video was a Bell 205. I have looked down the longline and listened to one for thousands of hours. There was a camera on the cargo hook in the "hell hole". I understood he was contracting to retrieve that stuff. Flying for a civilian company.

[@Aevoguitar]

@@jaxonboys3366 so Jake is telling the truth?

[@jaxonboys3366]

@Aevoguitar I would venture to say yes.

[@Aevoguitar]

@@jaxonboys3366 I feel as if he is telling the truth 👍

[@UAP.Ark.2025]

Wow 2 absolute legends and heros in one podcast. Thank you both♥

[@brokens1097]

Respected military figure and a filmmaker, my as well be discussing a script.

[@whitneymacdonald4396]

I've been fascinated by this topic since I was about 10yo (I'm 63 now) and have followed the topic relatively closely ever since. I've loved it as a mental exercise to keep my mind open. That said, I don't know how to deal with this information. When it was speculation/unconfirmed, I found it entertaining. It is getting harder and harder to deny it is real, and that really blows my mind, literally. I thought I was prepared but I'm not. I don't know what to do with this information, it's too far outside my understanding of life and physics. How are others fitting this into their understanding of life?

[@Sir-.-]

Wow! Professor Simon you're interviewing all my favorite guys. Keep up the good work. I'm a huge fan! 😅

[@stevet2968]

We are all learning, and probing for the truth, and that’s what matters. Grown up analytical conversations. Yes there may be mistakes on the way, but that’s all part of the learning process… thanks both , please keep digging no matter what! 🙏🙏

[@sylviegauthier6744]

I agree.

[@KathiOsborn]

Thank you both for this insightful discussion, I watch Chris's channel regularly as well as yours Simon.I can't wait for all the wonderful changes coming to humanity in light of the truth that we are definitely not alone, which I always felt was the case.

[@KarrierBag]

Brilliant conversation, love The Prof and Friends

[@DerBeinmann]

That's Chris Lehto. From the Lehto Files (YT). 😊

[@ehambright]

Yes. This is the power team!! Excellent question and answer about aero gel

[@bradharris1062]

Watch Michael schratts newest post

[@hissatsu4937]

He's obsessed with aero gel lol

[@wulfdanj]

Thank you for contributing info on the UAP subject..my question is have you been sharing from your sources what you know about aerogel to Congress & to Ross Coulthart before commenting about Jake Barber miss identifying the egg shape object..? IF NOT WHY NOT..?

[@DavidGarcia-ey8vq]

Prof Simon we need you Sir 🙏 please don't let the trolls upset you ! You have good content and facts! I recently subscribe to you because me/ and a lot. people need realism! Thank you !

[@stevedriver1476]

Australian special forces never show their faces, or do interviews while still in the service, they never talk about what they done or where they were for years and years. They dont turn up on Anzac day with signs on caps or jackets advertising who they were. Jake was a hero and exceptionally skilled and dangerous and so were the other 4 guys interviewed. ALL HEROS.

[@1shaunryan]

Yeh and there concerned for there lives and are lucky they got out to whistleblow so they can have social protection.

[@LouiseBarnes-pg2yy]

Against the law in Australia.

[@Angus.MacGyver]

The same type of soldiers who were proven to have committed war crimes in the Middle East?

[@padraiggluck2980]

In late Feb 2012 in Bpt, CT (so it could have been taking off from Sikorsky property) I saw what is now being called a tic-tac fairly low, perhaps a few hundred feet altitude, taking off rising on an angle flying toward the northeast but lost sight of it. It was plain white or off-white with rounded ends and featureless, no control surfaces, no ports, no protrusions, no exhaust, no sound. It had an aspect that I described to myself as a flying hot water heater. I didn’t report the sighting but when I checked Mufon I saw that other people did report it.

[@T1000-f8v]

@padraiggluck2980 I seen this same object in Melbourne Australia, around November last year, mid day, blue sky, it looked like a small plane really high then I noticed it had no windows or wings, moving slow and on a angle, that is the first thing I noticed, I've lived near the main airport and another smaller one for 34 years, I watched while having a cigarette then I went to get my phone and some binoculars and it was gone, it was very far and high but I could still see it wasn't normal

[@MacWallaceArbitrationService]

Military: "Look everybody, it's an alien craft but we cant figure it out. Itll take us a hundred years to know how it flies."

[@davidgallahair1206]

Look! Look! You bunch of morons there's a light in the night sky! What could it be??? Panic! Panic!

[@1shaunryan]

A hundred years to open it up

[@rickmoore6291]

Mr Lehto: First Class. Thank you Prof Simon for the discussion and ideas.

[@stefanc205]

thanks for the refresher on how areogel drones work in the last video , I needed it :) and thanks for making these video's for us , the topics you cover are very interesting and I am excited when I see the new video notification pop up ;)

[@raygee2489]

What an awesome conversation. If only we could all be this open with one another.

[@desertboots4666]

Perhaps humanity”s breakthrough evolutionary step towards acceptance into (Star Trek’s) Galactic Federation isn’t the warp drive engine after all, but humans becoming capable of learning the Universal Language - telepathy.

[@phrtao]

I respect the views of both of you and I pretty much went through all these issues in my own head. This is how we will get to the truth, by people like you discussing the pros and cons of competing ideas. Great stuff !

[@TheMovingForest-z5j]

🤗 Goody Goody ... I got a notification 52 seconds in. Great guests and excellent content, Professor Simon👍Thank you for your dedication!

[@choopatroopa4445]

Loved this conversation. Two great takes. We need more speculative talk like this. Open and contemplative. Get into the weeds and really think about possibilities.

[@RossCanpolat]

Yes finally the episode I wanted to see! Thank you Chris and Simon! ❤

[@m.f3815]

Great conversation..nice to have Chris on..i watched his clips from long time ago..great person

[@mpetry912]

I very much enjoyed this discussion

[@Nova_X-13]

I would just like to say Thank You Prof. and apologize if I've ever given you too hard of a time in the comment's. I also have a message for all those who watch and comment on your video's. Hey everyone I'm first to admit that I don't always agree with the Professor's idea's or hypothesis's but that's okay, that's how a proper symposium is supposed to work. Respectful and problem solving debate should be welcomed and I know this is a topic that generates high emotions but we need to stay focused on solving the mystery and not fighting amongst ourselves. We'll get know where like that and that's exactly what those who don't want disclosure want. I remember hearing at one point someone asking the Prof in affect why he's all way's trying to disprove the various UAP video's and evidence that he make's video's on if he's a believer in the phenomenon and that aliens exist, calling him a debunker. People that's exactly what you're supposed to do if you follow and use the scientific method. He's absolutely correct in his methodology. A scientist builds evidence for a hypothesis by attempting to disprove it in every way possible. Only a non-scientist tries prove a hypothesis by ignoring evidence that might point to an alternative solution that doesn't jive with their hypothesis. I don't know how you folk's feel about this but I sure the hell don't want to watch video's or interview's made by someone who doesn't employ the scientific method in their research.

[@ddmich9313]

Totally agree. Only by dissecting the information and evidence available while applying the science you know can you really conclude that an anomaly is an anomaly. 🙏🏻🖖🏻🛸

[@columbo7927]

Interesting chit chat folks Thank you very much Cheers Simon

[@SimonHollandfilms]

Thanks for listening

[@clambersbri5206]

Would be interesting to know if Jake had the weight of the egg. May answer some questions. Keep up the great work simon

[@michaelmcdonald8767]

While Chris listened carefully to Prof Simon’s aerogel theory of the egg, he was extremely tactful in his responses not to outright trash the Prof. But, it was quite obvious that Chris wasn’t buying it all, especially the Prof’s contention that aerogel explains Calvine as well as David Fravor’s Tic Tac encounter.

[@RedSphericalUFO]

The aegis radar evidence alone would discount the aerogel theory.

[@John-wd5cb]

There's more than meets the eye

[@Biketunerfy]

@@RedSphericalUFOYes, I think the Prof was trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Whilst others were eagerly accepting of this theory I was never convinced of it. It makes no sense at all. I also had a problem with the video of those UAP that surrounded MH370 that went missing over the ocean for the simple fact crash debris washed up on beaches that were identified by Boeing as coming from flight MH370 wings and even though he acknowledged this in a reply to me he failed to bring it up with the guy pushing this theory in his interview video which made me slightly suspicious as it completely destroys his theory.

[@traumflug]

Simply look at it from the engineer's point of view: the lightest Aerogel I could find on Wikipedia is 160g/m³. Hydrogen is 89g/m³ at sea level and even lighter at altitude. This is enough to conclude that an Aerogel "ballon" can't be lighter than a hydrogen ballon.

[@John-wd5cb]

@@traumflug there might be other tricks too with the aerogel meshes

[@StephenCoda]

A 20ft chicken egg shaped envelope full of hydrogen could lift approximately 132lbs (to what height would depend on a lot of other variables). the lift coefficient of hydrogen vs vacuum is negligible adding only another 10lbs of lift (assuming the envelope didn't eat that up with extra complexity).

[@UAP.Ark.2025]

so it could carry a small woman pilot, but with no propulsion

[@StephenCoda]

@@UAP.Ark.2025 At those altitudes, maybe a gerbil and life support with no propulsion. Most likely payload for something like that would be autonomous/RC, then you'd have room for some propulsion too.

[@leenewcome85]

Great episode Prof Simon & having Chris on the show was amazing, will we see Richard Dolan next I do hope so, thanks Simon for sharing great content 😊

[@drumstick74]

Subscribed! Thanks for all the info. 👍 / A Dane

[@PeterWhite-jz6np]

Excellent compare and contrast dialogue by both. Great work both of you. Professor Simon’s analysis is very convincing.

[@SimonHollandfilms]

Many thanks! i might be wrong but its worth eliminating

[@cylon5741]

@@SimonHollandfilms Buy a helium party balloon and release it noting if it ascends at Mach speed. Drop a heavier than air balloon from the roof of a twenty story building. Do the same with a solid steel ball bearing. Will either reach the ground in less than one second? How could a tic tac vacuum balloon drop from 60,000' to sea level in less than one second? Venting atmospheric air into a tic tac vacuum balloon could not possibly create a propulsive force which would accelerate it to Mach speed. The Cd of a 40' long propane tank shaped tic tac aerogel balloon is but one obstacle.

[@bigtop1967]

Was hoping you'd speak with Chris again - very interesting when you two get together! Thank you!

[@ShellHeinze]

I appreciate your work, so so so MUCH 🎉

[@SimonHollandfilms]

I appreciate that!

[@hazeljordan6612]

Brilliant! 🎉 Two of my favourite people 😊

[@JonnoPlays]

It's funny watching them attempt to dance around classified information they know but can't reveal 😅 like the low earth orbit speed hehe

[@duncandonitz4874]

The aerogel/aeroloy explanation is by far the most plausible. But I do have one question, Professor Simon. If these drones are currently being used as high altitude surveillance platforms over such places as Gaza and Ukraine, why have amateur astronomers not photographed them? Better yet, why haven't they been outed by our adversaries? Or have they?

[@sonofthesea-h7m]

I watched this on Patreon. It’s a great discussion by two of the best communicators on this subject. So glad you did an in-depth discussion with Chris Lehto. Excellent analysis by both 👍

[@BegudMaximan-zp2tc]

Yeap, let's hear the thoughts and more.

[@SimonHollandfilms]

Much appreciated!

[@brokens1097]

I watched this for free, gotta love communicators. Especially when there's a credible source entertaining a youtube's opinion.

[@Scoob.The.Wight.Adder.]

Another fabulous video. Thank you Simon. I can't help wondering ? When he lifted the egg shaped object, was it heavy? I mean , if it was the size of a S.U.V. , surely it would have taken a fair bit of power too lift, like a army Land rover for instance. Or would it have taken him by surprise at how little or nothing at all it weighed ? If he poured on the power expecting it to be heavy, it must have been quite a shock if it wasn't?? Don't know if any of this was referred too in the original interview? I haven't had chance to see it yet? Thank you Simon 👏👏👍🥰🐍

[@paulc2019]

Top stuff. Thank you

[@ocker2000]

What a relief to listen to your conversation. The truth is grey, not black and white.

[@MaddoxxFD]

And reality is weirder than fiction

[@tsstroud]

Great talk. Engineer chiming in. All those loads, electric thrusters, built in sensors, pumps to remove air... equal weight, even if the unit was at sub milli torr vacuum, it still weighs a pound or so

[@SimonHollandfilms]

good points....these vacuum drones have been built but its hard to pinpoint what engineering advantage they have.

[@joshuagraham9217]

Thanks prof

[@AegisOnlinePublishing]

U2 max altitude is 73k ft, the old UK Canberra had 70k official max altitude but went higher. Take a look, at its wings. An aerogel or vacuum device even with air in it on the ground would still be very light by necessity of its structure and wheel having to be so light that the aerogel would be able to make it bouyant.

[@Andy_Byrne]

Really enjoyed this video Simon

[@AndyMunden]

How does the aerogel egg get up there without blowing away? I understand that there may be no wind once you get to 60,000 ft, but surely there will be before it gets there. It would have to have some form of propulsion to get it to the position above the earth where you want to observe.

[@ShellHeinze]

Amazing. Thank you so much

[@SimonHollandfilms]

Welcome 😊

[@wildbillcody9052]

Two of my favorite KZbinrs finally together😊

[@AlexofOctagon]

We should end the discussion of vacuum/ aerogel crafts. I can’t see this of importance. Interesting science yes. Apply mathematics. 1 cubic meter of H2 can lift roughly 1.2/ 1.3 kg of weight. The Hindenburg had 200,000 cubic meter H2. It carried about 200 tons cargo . The „egg“ has perhaps 10 cubic meter volume. If H2 this could carry about 10 to 12 kg cargo. Vacuum could be a bit more. Say 15/16 kg. So forget this „egg“ is a vacuum craft of major importance .

[@SimonHollandfilms]

the egg is 20ft long the tictac over 40ft. HAPS systems use buoyant craft today. Vacuum buoyancy is better than Helium

[@AlexofOctagon]

@@SimonHollandfilms Ok, the TicTac then has very roughly 150 cubic meter volume if my calculations are correct without my coffee. The skin and interior will have some weight. Filled with H2 it could carry 100 kg. As a vacuum craft a bit more. That is some decent cargo size for surveillance gear . The propulsion is then a bit of mystery. These things seem to fly fast. Nothing fast is at the same time light. I will build a downscaled version!

[@wildbillcody9052]

Wow, two different takes of logic together is rare to see these days. What a great treat.!

[@driedmang0es]

Awesome conversation ❤

[@climb37775]

I’m not fully understanding why it’s so difficult for people to believe that any life that could exist on trillions of potential planets are incapable of sending probes or biologically engineered robots to Earth, whether through regular propulsion or space time manipulation. It’s not hard to fathom a civilization that puts all of their resources in exploration, instead of war, could do this.

[@joefraracci6748]

fantastic conversation!

[@RecycledBikes-jj]

We still don't know enough But this channel helps...

[@vayasaberlo8]

I'm puzzled by the photo under People mentioned. Who is Christopher Leto? Not Chris Lehto? Great conversation, anyway 😊

[@LucidityEngine]

I like your content, thank you. 😊

[@Kreepykrafts]

Amazing guest 👌 ❤

[@darrenscriven3963]

That was an extremely interesting and productive discussion, gentlemen. 👍

[@RepomanPro]

External propulsion scalar wave signal from two positions line of sight not required.

[@DerBeinmann]

Yeah 🎉🎉🎉🎉 wow!! How beautiful that you two work together 😊🥰🥰👍👍🐈🐾🐾

[@gabrielt6570]

The answers to all this are not too hard to find. Salvatore Pais has some interviews explaining the basics. They use rotation to contain a plasma and then run extremely high voltage through the plasma to make/adjust gravity. It works as a shielding from inertia inside and can "warp" essentially.

[@1shaunryan]

And folk mistake the gravitational lensing as lights.

[@dustinswatsons9150]

Let's plow straight into Jake Barber 😮 wow this topic is really drilling my brain right now

[@magicruss1]

Great conversation

[@padraiggluck2980]

So now we need an alien chicken.

[@thumpersquid]

@padraiggluck2980 Which came first? lol, apparently, the egg.

[@Shotkangaroo]

The Clangers who lived on the moon had a Chicken back in the 70s 😂

[@tech5298]

Look up “chicken ufo” comedy sketch in UK

[@AgelessPhoton]

Great One! Great Two's! :))

[@RepomanPro]

All that is required are three metal balls capable of producing a magnetic field when spun. That is enough dynamic force to create a dipole in motion. The mass of the metal and rotation speed would determine the strength of the pull

[@1shaunryan]

Is that what pulled mh370 into another dimension.

[@RepomanPro]

@ maybe instantaneous teleportation to the entangled signal location. Think of a scalar wave as a signal with potential to influence the electrons in the quantum field Around MH370

[@RepomanPro]

@@1shaunryan this egg is probably wrecked fuselage control electronic package/cockpit of lighter than air TR 3B with implosion plasma Drive or surveillance dirigible.

[@cybervigilante]

How would the aerogel eggs alter their density? They don't throw sandbags overboard.

[@Murgatroyd999]

They use air as ballast; for the same volume of space it has a higher density than vacuum.

[@thombell3311]

DoggO! Great episode! Well interesting ideas 👍🐕☃️❄️❄️❄️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@tastyfrzz1]

A 20 foot diameter aeralloy egg can only lift around 200 lbs. I've used helium filled weather balloons with cameras. They can't lift very much. Aerogel is very brittle and requires very rigorous chemistry to create. Not likely to be that. A 1/2 inch thick shell would still weigh over 50 lbs.

[@joeimbesi99]

Thanks for enlightening us.

[@steveroonie37]

You've got it all figured out, huh

[@tastyfrzz1]

@@steveroonie37 takes about five minutes to do the calculations. Do the math

[@DaFinkingOrk]

The Hubble uses magnetorquers to be able to orient itself without using fuel. They are presumably very weak though, there is no known technology that would allow these to keep any useful payload aloft. Same thing with those foil things you can make that work from ionic wind. They are too light to be useful so it has to be something else.

[@JonnoPlays]

I found this exchange to be eggstremely interesting. It takes two top-quality creators to eggsecute content of this caliber. The UFO/UAP scene is starting to get very eggciting! I'm eggspecially hopeful that we will get more videos released soon! It's going to be very eggravating if we never see the egg actually flying! We need more solid eggvidence released now to keep up the momentum! Hopefully the eggxecutive branch will step in and declassify some of this information so we can know the truth! If we are being visited by eggstraterrestrial life then we deserve to know about it!

[@davidgallahair1206]

that comment is eggstrordinary! really

[@JonnoPlays]

​@davidgallahair1206 thank you very much, I have Shel Silverstein to thank. Look up the egg poem, it is a piece of master work.

[@JonnoPlays]

​@davidgallahair1206 thanks David, I have Shel Silverstein to thanks. Check out the egg poem, it is a master work.

[@1shaunryan]

You know your bacon

[@ThePhilippines]

I rewatched back to the future and noticed the flux capacitor looks eerily close to the triangle uaps we see. The movie mentioned it was created in the 1950s.

[@NayaL-u8z]

Great chat 💬

[@gjingodjango]

If one believes in the Ether which I know Chris does there is no need of photons. Light does not manifest in Ether- light is the Ether and is a non materialist view of what light and ultimately illumination is because one does not see light according to Tesla I believe. Nice show guys.

[@bugtusslealien3931]

Dog looked like Simon.😂😂

[@SimonHollandfilms]

i usually don't appreciate comments like these but....you are correct. Chris's dog looked like me..ha

[@coulj6917]

That's why experienced pilots make great witnesses for UAPs because they understand how modern aircrafts behave and fly. My mind changed on the UAP subject once these experienced pilots starting reporting these events, not only that we have infrared videos, multiple witnesses. Please stop gaslighting us, all these people aren't liars or idiots.

[@usdlus]

the saw the tic tac zooming around and heading to 50K feet in a minute, that cant be buoyance

[@UAP.Ark.2025]

exactly.. even if it was bouyant it would need propulsion which would make it to heavy to float.

[@alankeeling2946]

PROF I hope you heard what Hal Putoff said about UAP doing right angle turns etc.... interesting :)

[@dazw3884]

What or where is this please mucka?

[@alankeeling2946]

@@dazw3884 links are not allowed but it was on a very recent podcast & UAP TV series that he said it.

[@dazw3884]

@alankeeling2946 thanks I'll have a search

[@chriswolfe403]

the prosaic suggestions ignore the second Barber experience of an octagonal saucer and a psychic connection to it. We got lost in the weeds of the what-ifs of a nuts and bolts explanation which, due to its dominance in this video, overawe the whole picture

[@SimonHollandfilms]

you might be right.....but what is the EGG?

[@chriswolfe403]

@@SimonHollandfilms maybe a high altitude human made device :)

[@stevenmawer2421]

Excellent

[@Cypher815]

Simon, the other 4chan photo of the egg total goes against your assessment.

[@terryandcarollewis1556]

Simon what are your thoughts on the newest egg video and images from Antarctica?

[@mppace]

Hi, I'm a UK eggthusiast!

[@Verfassers]

😂

[@Whoozurdaddy]

Yeah multiple current and former Huey pilots have ruled out that this was an aerogel drone. Not saying it was an NHI craft but it was definitely not a drone in that video.

[@mrbobo86]

The full Jake barber interview is amazing

[@SimonHollandfilms]

look forward to hear more details

[@Jarmezrocks]

I'm here to post early. Will finish watching when i wake up. Look forward to it

[@dextermorgan1]

What? Why does it matter to you about being "first" or whatever? That's literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of.

[@YellowKing1986]

@@dextermorgan1 I suppose it's supposed to help the video to be seen more, make the algorithm notice. To support the channel. In this light it makes sense and its kinda nice huh?

[@MartinD9999]

@dextermorgan1 Agreed. It’s just a silly badge thing for that one video. Kinda childish actually.

[@williamdudleybass9302]

Got my neurons all worked up, LOL! Q: can telepaths communicate long distances between star systems via quantum tunneling? Or, is telepathy itself quantum action? Makes sense multiple biological species that are interstellar or even intergalactic would evolve past the limitations of biologically generating speech plus the tech necessary to transmit & receive such EM signals. Fascinating! Yes? Woo Hoo! Love learning this stuff. What actions to practice such strategies. Look forward to learning more from you two over there.

[@corkygoss7403]

Great to see that these two are in dialogue/dialectic. I remain a huge fan of both. But......Ross C. has interviewed another researcher/experimentalist in all of this, way back in 2021: Bob Greenyer. Bob's work continues, open sourced on YT, at the MFMP Channel. No pressure at all, but I have made sure, for obvious reasons you will see, to mention BG to both presenters here. The goal is to compare notes on the UFO mechanisms and make the insights and understandings more or less ubiquitous. So, please accept my thanks for your kind attention. Peace.

[@iainriley617]

Why have SETI doing CH5, when you have had Russel Targ and Hal working on it for SRI from 1968 onwards .

[@FlintStone-c3s]

On Gutenberg Project is book by Mack Reynolds "Off course", Egg shaped craft, 1954?

[@toddwatson4019]

Thank you for flying Janet Airlines, have a great day! 😎

[@adamb8575]

good stuff

[@ChrisTietjen_00]

They're moving on "frictionless equipotentials" in the Ether. Non-inertial motion.

[@Biketunerfy]

Yes, I was never convinced of the aerogel theory. Square peg round hole.

[@SimonHollandfilms]

they exist but was the EGG a drone? who knows

[@Biketunerfy]

@@SimonHollandfilms According to Jake these egg craft are brought down with the power of thought which I doubt aerogel can be effected by the power of thought also aerogel drones are under a vacuum (if they exist) and have to still over come their own weight plus if they are used for surveillance purposes they are going to need heavy telephoto lenses and a camera possible with infrared capability and those require cooling to subzero temps of the infrared CCD chip and plenty of power since they all use the peltier system plus some sort of fans or thrusters to move it. I cannot see how aerogel drones are functional without some sort of gas to give them more weight lift capability in which case a balloon would be a far more cheaper and cost effective option and they could crank them out very cheaply.

[@imfloridano5448]

Think outside the box when it comes too 🛸. The materials they are made from are fused elements that the physical sciences would state it isn't possible to be. The metals and other elements built into a specific shape causes the crafts to levitate and move at incredible speeds

[@1shaunryan]

And morph