How to pre slope a shower pan on slab - Bathroom Remodel Day 13

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How to install a shower pan, bathroom remodel day 13 I install the pre slope on the shower pan, then liner and mortar bed. Also get all the plumbing for the shower head installed. Let me know what you think by leaving a comment for me and as always subscribe and like my videos.
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[@grahamtaylor4922]

Ty for the laymans explanation to this process. Very detailed, in a way diy can understand. Thanks!

[@rocksaltmetalworks6350]

This was really informative without being bloated with information. Great video! Thank you for making it.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching

[@mikeshivvers5461]

Dude didn't use a pan liner, it's not a informative video.

[@rocksaltmetalworks6350]

@@mikeshivvers5461 You mean that grey plastic membrane thing he laid down after the pre-slope? 9:04

[@Felipebustamante510]

@@rocksaltmetalworks6350 hahahaha,I think that is not a pan liner for some people.

[@adventjrtime8370]

Best explanation video so far. Thank you for this.🙏🏾

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching.

[@kimberlyshupe3519]

I love you CP!

[@eliasmachic6766]

Great video man thanks I just buy my first house and this helps me a lot blessings blessings 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇬🇹🇬🇹

[@jerzeedivr]

Nice to see 2 Layers of Wet Bed Mix!

[@tedmay4617]

Great demo, thank you

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching

[@carloslagunas859]

Nice work 👏 👌 👍 I learned from you a few steps. Thank you

[@chrisbuildsitall]

That’s awesome. Thanks for watching!

[@JuanGomez-do7jf]

Excellent video, thank you 🙏

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching

[@Felipebustamante510]

Very well explained,thanks a lot.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching

[@haroldped]

Good video! Thanks.

[@nataliesfunworld8677]

Thank you. You video is well explain. Awesome.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching!

[@JoseGonzalez-lk7vp]

you do good work, bro. I never seen a shower done that neat with the right slope.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for the positive response

[@macsaints10]

@@chrisbuildsitall impressed!

[@calabub456]

Great job my brother thank you thank you thank you God bless

[@JH-un1vt]

That step on that titan tho!

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Short and old people problems ..lol

[@juanarroyo5517]

Great video was a bit hesitant but watching this video you have made it much more informative and easier thank you

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching

[@blackietorres6024]

I’m going to be starting my shower soon doing it my self. So your video are easy explain step by step wish me luck

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Good luck, don’t cover the whole pan with redgard like I did, Just do the curb and edges inside the pan.

[@MizButtafli]

Thank you. I'm glad I found yall. New Sub..

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Heck ya. Glad to have ya. We do all kinds of DIY here! New Slogan... Dream It / Build It!

[@chinaskibukowski7747]

1. You NEVER use mastic around water. Actual thinset mortar should be used to create your skim coat underneath the deck mud. 2. You need to chemically weld the seam you created when you cut the shower pan liner to wrap around the curb. 3. You should use deck mud for pan work. 4. You need to create screed points around the entire parameter of the pan and use them to create the correct slope for both floats. 5. You need pebbles in place on weep holes during both floats. 6. You failed to put a bead of silicone caulk around the drain under the shower pan membrane. 7. When using wood for the curb it needs to be pressure treated for a couple reasons. First, wood absorbs moisture even if there's a barrier, pressure treated wont adsorb as much. Second, pressure treated lumber doesn't expand and contract as much as non pressure treated wood. Build the curb out of concrete or use a prefabricated curb. You can even use bricks as a safe alternative. 8. You need shower pan corner dams. 9. You need to do a 24 hour water test. This is a fundamentally flawed installation that will fail.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@chinaskibukowski7747]

Hire an actual tile setter next time before making a video using incorrect techniques. People will see this flawed installation and think it's acceptable.

[@chrisreynolds2410]

What’s a Bukowski when they all skeet on a chicks face? TampaBukowski

[@badass452a]

@Chinaski Bukowski Chinaski Bukowski Can you please give me some information on dry pack and the green state it will go into if not tiled quickly after it is laid? My contractor waited 3 days and I fear there might be a problem now, but I'm finding it hard to find info about "green state" . Thanks in advance!

[@losrancheritosdelasierra3492]

Ok everything is fine and dandy but what ever happened to doing a shower pan test you missed that aswell.. we’re human we all make mistakes. Overall you do know what your talking about though.

[@cardincardini8391]

Great video

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Hey thanks!

[@hermindersidhu161]

Excellent

[@HobbitHomes263]

I LOVE this kind of DIY video! jUST MEANS A LOT OF BILLABLE HOURS FOR ME TO REPAIR!! LMAO

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Haha. Only reason I got into this is because of having to fix the work of the “professionals” that built my house. Go get your though!

[@bbarns6431]

Some people talk about the game some people play it. CustomDIY = Tom Brady. Hobbit Homes = Tim Boyle

[@BonBon770]

Awesome job using a pre slope a vinyl liner a post slope and a plastic weep hole protector!

[@jessgoodmanshowto7292]

Helpful. Thx.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yep. Thanks for watching

[@philipmagill]

Super clean work thanks for posting

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching

[@aminabellakhdar9761]

Thank you so that was helpful

[@chrisbuildsitall]

No problem, thanks for watching

[@hilariomendez9111]

I really like your technique to prefloat and then the shower liner and then float again with some good slope. Congratulations. You really did it correctly 👍👍. Where is the second video. I will like to see it

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks. I’ve got the whole bathroom build in a playlist to make it easy to see the whole process. Here the link for the next video though… How to install hardy backer in a shower - Bathroom Remodel Day 14 kzbin.info/www/bejne/faXFnGCVbJpnbbs

[@SPIKESLAYER1]

The Oatey directions shows the preslope, then pan liner,then the water proof board on wall so that the mortar pan will embed and cover the edge of the wallboard at the base

[@BulyKid]

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks for making this video! Also as a side note, often times you can flip the cartridge in the diverter assembly. Would have saved you from having to flip the hot/cold lines.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Good tip. Thank you.

[@milo6373]

Took the words right 👍 out my mouth, Moen and Delta for sure 🤔✌️🙏☯️😸

[@joevogliardo3131]

You mean the mixer valve

[@martykroenecke4273]

I guess I would do a few things different, but thanks for taking the time to do this video. Where I live building code does not allow for electric boxes behind a tub or shower wall. I've never seen thinset or anything under the first mud layer. Using wood for the step is really asking for trouble, any little leak will rot it out and cause a failure. Many many folks have had to redo shower bases because of using wood. And if you ever have a problem with the shower valve, your going to have to destroy the wall to access it. I always lay out showers and tubs so an access door or panel can be on the backside for repairs. But hey you seem like a good guy with great intentions! Hope it all works for many years.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thank for the feedback and thanks for watching.

[@stevelibner5309]

Marty, what would you use to create the curb?

[@AdonusDaDon]

@@stevelibner5309 he gave no response to actually help. He Just wanted to criticize.

[@DavidKlausa]

@@stevelibner5309 I'm thinking brick.

[@tonynguyen5362]

I went with KBRS shower slope, best decision I made with my bathroom remodeling.

[@natsirim499]

I like it

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks

[@artemlive]

Thank you for this video. Want to find out if its ok to use the same Sand Mix on both sides of the shower pan liner? Or do I absolutely have to buy Brick Mortar or Concrete for the top layer ( on top of liner ) ?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yes, you really need to use mortar on the top layer. It’s easier to set/manipulate than dry pack.

[@paulness8352]

A simpler way would be to lay the pan liner down, use dry pack for the preslope(which is porous so it will weep/drain), then waterproof it with either a adhesive membrane or a roll on membranr. Did twice the work for the same reault. But thats the game, i guess.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Probably gonna tear this one out and do that soon!

[@centenarios22k21.6k]

Read the instructions then comment

[@BonBon770]

I wouldn't say that's a simpler way that is a different way what he's doing there is a traditional in and out system what you're talkin about as a bonding flange for a newer sealed system

[@VideoNash]

thanks

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching

[@YogisGarage]

Me thinks I need a shower in Yogi’s Garage 😂 🚿

[@richardwright4112]

I always use small rocks around the drain to protect the weep holes

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yes sir, that’s what I did also. Thought about using the plastic ring that came with the drain but the pebbles made more sense to me. Lol

[@diamond-mr9pn]

Why do 2 layers of concrete? And if you make the mortar flush with the drain the will sit higher then the drain

[@chelseahrdlichka7010]

Great video! Where I live we are required to float the walls in the basement and I have a really weird shaped shower. So I want to do a poured pan. But How do I do it with the walls floated? I have the gap between 2x4's so I dont know how I can frame it for the concrete.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching. I don’t know a lot about it floating walls as it’s not something I’ve had to deal with. First thing to find out is how much of a gap is required per code for your floating wall? Next, is how big is you shower? The hope would be that you can double up your footer for your walls and still meet code for your floating wall.

[@bignis88]

Could you not put down a proper sub floor to raise your floor and build the shower on the subfloor rather than the cement floor.

[@MS-rs8le]

Great Video CP, How is the shower floor holding up right now? Thanks again for your help

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Everything is great. No issues with anything, not really expecting any but if there is there will for sure be a video out about it. 😂

[@raykaye]

Found your video at the perfect time!!!!!! Fixing to tear out and redo my shower and need your expertise please. Whats the thin set you put down on the concrete before the pre-slope called? Is it a special kind? The idiots that installed my shower years ago just put the rubber membrane on the flat concrete and water was sitting in it and caused major damage to the tiles, wood, everything 🤦‍♂️. I’m going to rebuild it to your specs. You done an awesome Job!! Thank you for any info on the thin set you used.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for watching. I just used mastic for the floor to bond the dry pack to the floor. Can get it in a small tub at Lowe’s, but don’t use mastic for any tile work in the shower.

[@raykaye]

@@chrisbuildsitall thank you very much. So it’s just called mastic? Probably in the flooring section at Lowe’s?

[@miker8687]

I am not a professional, but from what I understand, and from the installation instructions that come with the Oatey shower pan liner, the wall (cement board or whatever you use) should be installed before the the drypack?

[@thomascarter5838]

Why do you prefer mortar mix for the bed mix? Does it dry pack easier. I tend to add play sand so I can get a next day scrape.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Honestly I did it that way because that’s how I saw the few guys I watch on KZbin do it, StarTile and Deblasi Tile both do it that way.

[@itsJoshW]

@@chrisbuildsitall I didn't notice that they used just straight mortar mix. Was it like using the drypack mix you used?

[@weltonrs1]

Awesome video, you gave me the confidence to tackle this myself, thank you. One question, how did you take care of that one open seam in the corner of the pan liner?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Pan liner glue and there are special corner pieces you need to grab from the store, depending on whether it’s an inside or outside corner.

[@qualityflooringmanitousprings]

Pan mud should always be dry. If there is water pouring out of your mud than you put way to much water in the mix of pan mud! And I use block to form my curb not wood.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yep. Thanks for watching.

[@EvermontKing]

Use flat heat nails to put the membrane in

[@thechadbullock]

If I'm demoing an existing pan for a remodel, and I'm getting a new shower pan, do I have to bust up the existing thinset under the pan?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I’d say yes, you will want a clean surface to start with then thin set again and install new pan

[@thechadbullock]

@@chrisbuildsitall thank you!!

[@enriquep.fuentes8545]

Thanks for your video. can I use construction paper over the plywood? In th preslope floating what should be the side wall thick if my shower is 6'x4' finish inside? and what should be the thick for the drain? thank u.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Not 100% sure on the construction paper, some People use it and some put down Duraroc. I’d try for 1/4” preslope at the drain, then go up 1/4 inch per foot. So if your drain is in the center of your shower it would be 3’ , so 3/4” of preslope, so at your walls it would be 1” and drain would be 1/4.

[@enriquep.fuentes8545]

@@chrisbuildsitall Very helpful. thanks.

[@davidelwin5323]

The moment I saw the title to this video, all I could think was, awe man 🤞 and 🙏 there will be a man walking a little white dog.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Lol - i know right. Oh the good ole days of video editing…

[@abiesolis7489]

Fuck you people, can't watch a video without you interfering every five seconds

[@playtimewitholivia1877]

Got to use Portland cement and sand. Your shower floor is going to get soft over time....

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Appreciate the comment thanks for watching

[@shafi10a]

The sand topping mix he used is Portland and sand mixture

[@ElenaBarron-ym6df]

On shower drain, what is the light blue fan (below drain), did you glue down drain or just insert.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

The light blue is the glue for the shower drain, I glued the white pvc to black abs pipe and it takes a different type of glue.

[@losrancheritosdelasierra3492]

Future reference install your Hardiboqrd first then do your mortar bed.gives you more sturdiness

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for the tip. I’ll try that on the next one

[@Mezmar165]

Very informative--thanks for making the video. I am curious--what is the brand or type of drain assembly? Is it something Lowes or Home Depot carry? (I did my own shower pan about 25 years ago and didn't put the pvc liner over a sloped surface. I put it directly on the plywood and then used quickcrete to put a sloped floor in. From what I've seen, I am one of the lucky ones who haven't had any leaks). This time I am doing it for a neighbor and will follow the steps you cover in your video. Don't want to leave anything to chance.....

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I got the drain from Lowe’s, here’s a link for it. www.lowes.com/pd/Oatey-130-Series-5-75-in-L-Square-Holes-Square-Stainless-Steel-Snap-in-Drain/1000730484 Thanks for watching! Let me know if you have any questions.

[@ThankyouJesus81]

How did that bathroom remodel for your neighbor turn out Bud. Thanks in advance. Just curious

[@chrisbuildsitall]

How did that remodel come out?

[@skeetorkiftwon]

You CAN put the liner on the floor, better if glued, and this was how it was done with lead liners. But pre slope under the liner prevents standing water, and delays deterioration. Further, a careful removal can result in reusing the pre slope.

[@Jonathan-hq8od]

For the preslope mortar bed. You said you needed to do 1.5” on the sides to achieve your slope because your drain was high. Couldn’t you have lowered the drain? Also I understand a preslope is 1/4” per foot. But what should the thickness start at from the drain. A 1/4” or thicker? Thanks.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Your correct, I could of and should of lowered the drain more, I messed up the measurement and the concrete was set so I just went with it. I’d say you want it about 1/4 inch off the floor would be ideal imo.

[@MS-rs8le]

You really should have mortar that is no less than 1.5 inches in depth because you want strength here!!! You dont want to apply , lets say 1/2 inch of concrete right? Not gonna be to strong right? You want to maximize strength here. I just did a concrete mortar bed the other day for a shower and I would NEVER go any thinner than 1.5 inches Good Luck

[@Jonathan-hq8od]

@@MS-rs8le so start with 1.5” at the drain and slope up from there?

[@abyssalsoul6216]

@@Jonathan-hq8od I want to know too!! Coz my drain will be about 4 feet from the furthest side and if that is so then at that side .the height will be 2 1/2 inches thick?

[@Jack-russell103]

I never mud first because ive got to work on top of that area putting walls up

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yeah I should of out the walls up first for sure.

[@meanhog1]

Please explain why you did to layers of concrete for the pan? I've never seen that before. Thanks

[@chrisbuildsitall]

First layer is a dry pack, used to set the correct slope of the pan, second layer is a mortar mix that goes on top of the pan liner to get you up to the correct height for tiling and fixing any issues you had with your original pre slope. Many builders 2 layers, but also many only 2 one. I assume it’s builder experience/preference for the most part.

[@meanhog1]

@@chrisbuildsitall thanks for the response. Yea I have never seen 2 layers so I was wondering why...does it do something special for water wick up or something from the ground since it's on concrete? I'm just trying to understand why the reason for the 2 layers thats all. I just like to learn as much as I can, thank you .

[@dcrock8978]

meanhog1 it’s plumbing code to pre slope, prevents stagnant water in corners of rubber pan.

[@RobertWhitfield]

No Pan Liner first - I dont get it? If you put the Oaty pan liner on top of the pre slope, will thin set and tile stick to the pan liner?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yes it does because there is a layer of “concrete” on top of the liner also.

[@samdaniel5703]

What is the putty you put down before putting the preslope topping mix down?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

It was mastic.

[@kmattar]

Because it’s on concrete you didn’t need the vinyl membrane? What are your thoughts on weeping stone around the drain?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I like the stone better, although I screwed it up by redgarding over the drain area. A lot of things I’ll do differently next time.

[@zacharybrown9165]

What was your reasoning for going with stones instead of the plastic weep cover?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

No particular reason, I had the plastic weep cover, but decided to use the stones instead at the last minute. Felt more comfortable

[@citionriver]

Did you end up using weep whole protector I see you used in video or just rocks? Or you used both?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I used the pebbles instead of the weep protector. Just felt more comfortable

[@951700983]

Hi, it's possible use Sakrete Mortar/Stucco Mix Type S for the pre slop and Liquid Nails under the Rubber Liner Shower Pan. Also not forget put the Shower Pan Liner Corner Dam. Nice!!! Video. Thanks

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I’d say no, it’s gonna be too hard to keep a slope with it. You need something that is dryer that will hold its shape when wet.

[@reginaldhenderson9534]

I have a slab floor already in my shower the shower i want is 3 by 10 and iam adding in a cement bench set so my question is how do i suppoet my liner against the cement blocks

[@chrisbuildsitall]

That’s a good question. I’ve never dealt with that before. I’m assuming your gonna use some type of form to pour your bench. So I’d think you would build your pre slope then put down a liner, then your forms for concrete?? I could be 100% wrong on that though. Maybe someone with more experience will chime in.

[@recordzent4519]

Can you do mortar for pre slope instead of the sand mix?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I’d say no, the issue is that the mortar will be to wet and will start to level out. The sand mix is really dry and holds its shape.

[@omardelaluz3268]

Great vid!! How much water do you add on one bag?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I just followed the directions on the bag. Sorry I don’t remember the exact amount.

[@ExelleVision]

Is 5 inches on the outer part of the shower floor too thick for second floor? We couldn't sink the drain lower because of the trusses.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I’m not sure what code is but I think your still ok at 5. That’s how tall mine is on the outside

[@ExelleVision]

@@chrisbuildsitall the highest part of the quikrete is 5 inches on yours?

[@jessematheny3636]

What I do is use a scrap piece of poplar and cut the depth of your shower pan tile and use that to suck to the top of your drain and scrape the exact amount of dry pack away. If your stuck in smaller areas for a level even though poplar is expensive it’s typically flat.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Ahh, thanks. That’s a good tip. Thanks for watching.

[@jessematheny3636]

Good job. Looks good

[@marcodeluca4068]

what was the stuff you put down thats under the membrane ?? looked very loose.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

It’s called a dry pack, looks dry when your installing it but drys hard like concrete

[@joshjenkins7075]

Pretty good job i just dont think ya should have cut your liner. You can do all that around curb with foldin but looks 👍

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thank you

[@rebeccarobison9754]

My husband already put up the cement board on the walls. Do we need to take that down and then do this for our shower pan?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Always to the pan first, this includes when you do your tiling. Always want to ensure the walls overlap onto the pan so water will drain into the pan if water ever happens to get behind the tiles. If all the walls are up he can get away with just removing the bottom 12” or so to install whatever pan your doing

[@aydenmoss2472]

Do not listen to this bozo, you always always always put your preslope and liner in, then concrete board then a band of tile around THEN you do the mud pan, the mud pan should NEVER and I mean NEVER touch the cement board

[@Conacastes]

I’m trying to do this in a mobilehome I don’t know if there is any problem

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Should be, I’d for sure do a little checking around. I think you’ll need to put down some cement board on the floor, but def double check me on that.

[@cingularities]

Why do you use Sand/Topping mix for the slab then once you add the pvc lining, you use just mortar mix?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Sand/topping is used to make a “dry pack”, you use that layer to set your slope and drain height, then after the liner you’ve got to put down a layer that the tile attaches too, which is just a high quality mortar mix.

[@cingularities]

Can you use sand/topping instead of mortar mix after the lining and create the perfect slope on top of the lining instead of under? Or will that cause problems

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Your only issue would be if water got under your liner then it would just sit on a flat surface and create problems. That’s why you want a slope under the liner, if anything gets under the liner it still gets directed to the drain. Not to say many people do build them that way!

[@scpalmlife7671]

So you have to make 2 separate sloping mortar beds?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

If your using a pan liner yes. You can do just the first layer, your deck mud and then do a water proof membrane and a flange drain like the Flo FX drain.

[@chispirito856]

Customdyi...Sorry, I must have missed it....Which barrier did you use between subfloor and first layer of concrete?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I used mastic thin set. Just need something to bond the first layer to the concrete.

[@DifficultPeak]

So it goes 1) form slope of pan 2) install liner 3) pan mud/mortar mix/thinset on top of liner 4) allow that to dry What about cement board? And what do you ultimately tile over

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Correct. After your mortar mix on top of liner, install your cement board, leave about 3/4 gas between pan and cement board on the wall. I used Redgard as an added layer of water proofing, then tile.

[@DifficultPeak]

@@chrisbuildsitall so does the liner adhere to the floor with the mortar or does it need to be glued or does it just float and the tile and Thinset hold it in place?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Liner floats on the preslope then the mortar mix goes on top that holds it down.

[@DifficultPeak]

@@chrisbuildsitall 2 more questions: 1) What's your preferred method for tiling corners? 2) How do you set your drain properly?

[@mohomami9684]

What type of thin set you used ? Brand please, thank you.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Versabond LFT (large format tile) from Home Depot.

[@seanharding5481]

Was that thinset on a backer board bottom or wood floor?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Nope, it was on concrete. That’s how it’s done.

[@pbdubz]

a year later any issues? i have the exact same situation in my master bedroom concrete lab putting pressure treated wood as my curb

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Year later and still no issues!

[@pbdubz]

@@chrisbuildsitall awesome thank you! im doing this

[@pbdubz]

@@chrisbuildsitall quick question already raised it half an inch with the morter and put the liner and red seal paint but now im just wondering is this method ok for putting glass all around because thats what im doing to mine (frameless glass) with a glass door Thank you

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yes, I have frameless glass on mine

[@johnkornowski4853]

Did you mix the sand/topping mix with anything?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

No, just water.

[@johnkornowski4853]

Thank you, lol I’m following this step by step so hope she held up good

[@haroldfroehlich656]

NOT FOR LONG TERM ,ALWAYS USE A CAST IRON SHOWER DRAIN ,DOES NOT CRACK, BUT GOOD JOB FOR EFFORT.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thank you

[@mohomami9684]

What did you use to hold the first 2by4s to the concrete?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I drilled holes for concrete screws, then I coated the bottom of the 2x4 with liquid nails to act as a moisture barrier, then used a Ramset gun to nail down the boards, then inserted the concrete screws. Them babies aren’t going anywhere. Lol

[@brianelsner4175]

I would like to see how many building inspectors would let a shower fixture be in the same cavity as electrical boxes.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I’m guessing your trying to say I did that, which a didn’t. The niche is in the next set of studs to the right of that electrical box. Appreciate you watching though!

[@budwilson6177]

How much work time do you gave with thst mix

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Gave both 24 hours

[@DumbCarGuy]

As a professional installer I am not ripping on your install job but 8 out of 10 wood shower curbs FAIL. They are wood. Even if you bought the best 2x4's out there they fail. Why, because they shrink so when you stack three 2x4's and they only shrink 1/16" thats 3/16" total in about 6 months time. While that bottom 2x4 resting on the slab is expanding where it touches the concrete it is shrinking on the top surface where it mates to the next 2x4. This is why you get the washboard effect when laying laminate flooring over concrete floors. 1st sign is flaking grout followed by horizontal cracks in sidewall grout. Stand on it in a year and bounce and have someone watch the curb, it will move up and down. now water will start traveling horizontal and it only gets worse. We always do solid curbs, failure rate is ZERO.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Thanks for the info. By solid you mean brick or concrete? I’ll try that in the master bathroom.

[@jerzeedivr]

Never considered the wood Shrinks.

[@DumbCarGuy]

@@chrisbuildsitall solid, no bricks. Just put in your 1x6 then do your slope up to the 1x6 face. Lay in your membrane cut it at the 1x6 then when you put your top mud base in, you curl the membrane upwards by packing some mud under the membrane sandwiching the membrane in the curb area.

[@anewlife5977]

Can u show me

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I’m not totally understanding your instructions, I’ll see if I can find it online. Thoughts of having a moisture barrier between the wood and the concrete? That’s what I did, then used both ram set nails and 6” concrete screws spaced 12” and offset from center of the board to hopefully keep it from twisting. Hopefully it holds up? Appreciates your advice and will def look into a 100% no fail rate of doing things!

[@petercardenas319]

What size of cement boards did you use

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Standard size, believe it’s 3x5

[@saleeswilliams5712]

Hey guys I have a question so I can check my contractor!!!.... ok "Is it ever OK to use the old shower pan as the base for a new custom shower.? HE CUT THE SHOWER PAN AND IS TRYING MORTOR OVER IT WITH THE EXISTING DRAIN!!!

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Um, I’d say no, but it kinda depends on the pan that you have. The biggest concern would be if the mortar is gonna set up and hold without cracking. I can understand why he’s doing that but if it was me I’d start from scratch.

[@charliemolina9239]

@@chrisbuildsitall pop

[@davidmccormick9022]

What is the best way to do a pre-slope in a 4 x 4 shower with plywood floor any advice would be helpful thank you again and love your videos

[@dennismartinez4921]

Tarp for pre Sloap

[@dennismartinez4921]

Then the same processes with the pan liner

[@Maxspeed7Dab]

Do you have to put in a liner if your in a basement on a concrete slab?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Depends on the type of pan your builing. If your using a 3 piece drain like I did, then yes you have to use a liner. Or you can build one with a flange type drain, then use a waterproof membrane.

[@Maxspeed7Dab]

@@chrisbuildsitall okay. Im using a 3 piece drain and doing a mud pan.

[@lobsterstrange]

Them kerdi/ schluter boyz won't like this lol

[@chrisbuildsitall]

No they wouldn’t. Want to try Kerdi on the master bath..

[@lobsterstrange]

@@chrisbuildsitall but your way is up to code right? So why are they so upset?

[@williamhaywood4497]

What kind of thin set did you use

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Just used some mastic between the concrete and the dry pack.

[@EvermontKing]

Supposed to have pea gravel around drain at weep holes to allow water in if it makes it to the membrane.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

There is pea gravel around the weep holes.

[@dougmoore7424]

If putting base on plywood, is thin set still the recommended layer underneath?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yes

[@dougmoore7424]

@@chrisbuildsitall thanks for the response!

[@davidmccormick9022]

So you have to use the water membering you can’t use just a red guard

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Have to have a pan liner under the pan, then redgard on top for the best protection

[@davidmccormick9022]

Thanks for all your help it came out nice I can’t wait to see what you come up with next

[@dougswanson2563]

What drain are you using?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

www.lowes.com/pd/Oatey-130-Series-5-75-in-L-Square-Holes-Square-Stainless-Steel-Snap-in-Drain/1000730484

[@strokerace4765]

You said “inset” around the wall??? Do you mean sand topping mix?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

It’s been a while since I made the video. I used thinset as a bond between the concrete and the dry pack. If that’s not what you mean, let me know the time of the video and I’ll go back and check it and explain.

[@matts5771]

For the amount of time it takes to build the pan, why not use prefabricated pan?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

I used a prefab bed pan in my last shower build, main reason is the cost. This pan cost about $30 to build vs having to have a custom pan made cuz the shower was an odd size, also we wanted a marble tile floor and curb and you can’t get that in a pre fanned pan.

[@matts5771]

@@chrisbuildsitall depending on what make of pan u get u can use marble. I know its alot cheaper but I look at my time in the cost. Takes about 30 mins to set a prefab pan apposed to how long it takes to do that. Also most days I make between 5-700 $ (canadian) so that time is valuable.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

That’s true, def save a lot of time. If I was out doing this for a living I’d used a pre-fab pan every time!

[@alfredoGarcia-lq3qq]

I am just confused on that membranethat you install on top of a concrete mix...is that membrane,plastic or rubber?do you think the grout and tiles will stick on that membrane?bet you in the future all tiles will going to puff up.because the adhession on mix and tiles to that membrane will not going to work.

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Please watch the video before you comment.

[@chrislemuz67]

The question is that there is already cement because you have to pour another cement on top?

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Yes that’s the correct way to build a curb if your using a 3 piece drain like I did.

[@johnperalta3515]

Alot of videos I've watched I noticed some people don't put gravel in the concrete. Am I supposed to use gravel

[@chrisbuildsitall]

Concrete has gravel in it, there are other mixes though that don’t have gravel. Just depends on what your doing. If I recall both the mixes I used didn’t have gravel in them.

[@johnperalta3515]

Ok thank you. I'm doing the pan liner method you used. Except I got Portland cement and sand. I was telling someone about it and they told me how come I didn't get gravel cuz if I didn't use it that it would not hold together and crumble over time. But I told them that for shower pan slope I don't think you use it cuz every video I've seen nobody uses it so which kind of had me unsure

[@tbone4075]

What is the sun floor he is laying this on???

[@chrisbuildsitall]

It’s on concrete slab.