2018 GSXR 1000R Slip On Exhaust Vs Full System Brocks Performance Header Dyno Comparison Moore Mafia

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[@BrockDavidson]

Great test Chris! FYI - the Predator has a unique headpipe configuration to boost low/mid HP and torque, which does slightly reduce the peak gains compared to the Penta-Carbon, Alien Head etc... Glad you captured what some changes in bent tubing, hidden under the fairing can do! Excellent work on your flash also. That's why we send people your way for a great flash at a great price ;)

[@bandanamuzic]

Hey Brock, do you make an exhaust for GSX S 1000f?

[@BrockDavidson]

@@bandanamuzic we are working on them now. Please check our site in 3-4 weeks for models and availability.

[@bandanamuzic]

@@BrockDavidson ok... We need major help on top end with these 😀

[@BrockDavidson]

@@DjinnGSXR our systems are designed for any/all applications. As long as your bike isn't slammed in the dirt, you will be fine at any lean angle.

[@Julianmoore699]

Thank you Brock for the excellent service and product!!!

[@user-fr6ry7ic5q]

You and Brock are my favorite 2 to watch period. I bought a brand new 2018 Gsxr 1000r model because of you guys and will be buying upgrades but this my favorite vid from you yet Chris and Brock i love the information you provide as well keep up the great work you'll both be getting my money soon lol

[@TeamMooreMafia]

Thank you! Comments like this keep me wanting to make videos for you guys!

[@cheyenneobregon184]

How much you buy it for? I’m looking at a used 17’ GSX-R 1000 with a yoshi exhaust for 12,500 1500 miles

[@Derekfl19]

@@cheyenneobregon184 I can't find one under 15 I'd jump on it

[@snootchie86]

Great comparison! As always, keep up the good work!!

[@Bisse_Elison]

I got nothing but love 💕 for this channel!!!

[@dunkibabe]

Great vid loving the new room 👌

[@K-carbon]

New dyno room certainty look the part very professional smart looking room but most inportant thing is chris in it

[@myducati748]

The transparency is greatly appreciated!

[@mrsmagik1680]

Awesome video Chris we need one like this for the fire blade

[@Julianmoore699]

We are doing the velocity stacks next!!!💪🏻🚀🔥

[@thereal_FASTA]

Get rid of them.

[@constantinosgaitanis3748]

Congratulations on the shop looks awesome 👏

[@jonasrueda4195]

Loving the new dyno room. I also love the new bike life shirt. Awesome reaults on those 1,000s.

[@DBlizz1991]

I'll definitely be up there again soon. Actually saw y'all in the Dyno room yesterday.

[@matthysharmse4200]

Brilliant Vid. well done Moore Mafia. love the videos

[@Julianmoore699]

I have to say after riding the bike I couldn’t be happier with the results this bike is a monster...if you have any concerns or worries don’t the only thing I wish is that I did it sooner!!! Moore M.A.F.I.A. is the real deal thank you Chris excellent service and amazing results!!!🔥🚀💪🏻

[@suzukitime5537]

Hey, is your bike the blue with the yellow wheels? Do you have an insta? Would love to see more pics or vids of your bike looks amazing!!!

[@jeffdavis9787]

love the new screen...

[@andrewjackson408]

It's the colors on the blue bike. Made to race 😎

[@NickSanto]

New dyno room looks awesome! Should make life a little easier and definitely better for customer to watch.

[@lewisdeclouette6342]

Yes sir loving the dining room

[@morley3810]

I wasn’t expecting the biggest gains to be in the mid range meat like that. Given the lower air density of the day that’s an impressive improvement and would be VERY noticeable on the street, real world riding!

[@Channel-jy1ui]

All of the above! ( Miles, riding condition, and break in method) all plays a major part in dyno numbers. And my guess is that black bike will get faster in time.

[@craigkelly3372]

Hey Chris , Thanx for the great video, wondering if the run on blue bike in 6th gear made a difference in dyno # verses black bike in 5th gear, seams counter intuitive to me, however engine oil and coolant can also hide a couple HP, much love to you and Brock for all you guys do to help us, peace

[@tonytoneton2pac966]

Love the videos,now from your opinion,which brocks exhuast system do you prefer, alien or predator. I'm looking for more low and mid. Street use only

[@steveyork8069]

Great video,was just curious about gearing the blue bike looked like it was faster on top end speed looking at the gauge on the big screen.🏍💯👍

[@darrellhwy1]

Excellent video!!!

[@jamescross2261]

Loving the dynojet 150. We have exactly the same dyno but running the new software. Do you know what brake rotor fits???

[@ursaint9004]

I have a 2020 r1 just did the first service. I’m in Michigan but my buddies and I really wanna make a trip out of coming to see you. The whole exup and servo thing scares me, if I ordered my graves exhaust, could I talk to you about your availability to install it and dyno tune the bike for me?

[@dhackstall1]

Also,,, if you get a chance,,, a video comparison between velocity stacks would be cool. Will short stacks help or hurt power?. ( I'm full of content ideas when I don't have to do the work...lol) Still would be cool to see. I can't find any video or hp comparison online about this as far as modern sport bikes.

[@Coyotte_Rob]

What cat delete mid pipe would you recommend 2006 gsxr 750? If you could provide a link that would be awesome

[@jermaineharrell4306]

Love the channel I want to bring my bike down there for you to put it on the dyno give me some instruction on how to make that happen

[@TeamMooreMafia]

Www.mooremafia.com Book an appointment online though email.

[@bandanamuzic]

Great content

[@davvenmiller1050]

Get a keyboard stand that swings off the wall so u never have to get off the bike..will save u lots of time.. I watch always

[@bobbyblueace]

The transmission whine on the black bike sounds louder than the blue bike to me. Maybe even a variation in chain tension/alignment/lubrication could account for some of the 2% difference?

[@bizzo44ify]

Chris, what's the most HP you've seen the new gsxr1000 produce in the dyno?

[@randylee954]

Hey, can you do flashes for an 02 954RR?

[@badass1g]

Best bang for the buck mod you can get!

[@metakmoto]

Do the spark plugs have anything to do with the HP difference? Or possibly a different weight of oil? Thinner or thicker oil?

[@Cheque1Music]

jeeeez dyno rooms looks sick, thats what i would love to build

[@Cheque1Music]

if somone wanted to learn how to dyno motorcycles, where would the best place to start brother ?

[@Living4hride]

Chris, what do you think of wrapping header with wrap? Is it worth the time and money or what?

[@edstastephenson9386]

Can you do much with gsxr1000 k3 ecu. I already have it dyno tuned on the pcv

[@HemiBurns]

It's amazing how much HP and TQ you extracted out of that Gixer with only a Hot Body slip on.

[@allthathpandnotire3019]

Is that restriction only in 6th gear or is it in all gears rpm based?

[@Rodeshion]

How should I contact you chris to ask a few questions about what you can do for my bike and how much I'm looking to spend.

[@lowlife189]

Does it benefit the gains to have the exhaust valve disconnected with a slip on? Or do you get better torque keeping it?

[@redneckrccrawlers9825]

Was the gearing the same

[@dennistate9951]

Great video

[@itsmeericb]

My bike was flashed by superbike unlimited. Can I get it re-tuned by you? It’s a 2017 GSXR 1000.

[@r1ckyBandit]

Halo chris i want ask something about ecu flash i have 750 gsxr 1999 with injection system but the throthle still use cable conventional without wiring, is the ecu can be flash also ? Thanks before say hello from indonesia to you

[@calvinjames8291]

Chris, I have a Gen 2 Busa 2008 with Megaphone Slipons, Cat Delete, Filter and a ECU flash "bike have not been tuned", but it out runs other Busas and ZX14s that are full Bolton's. Exhaust, Flashed and Tuned. Hate saying it's a freak, but do you think there's anything left in oh girl? Use to be Stationed up there close to you but came back to Florida. BTW, take the rider weight out of it because I'm 225 and the other guys are ranges from 170-200

[@tonylyons1274]

Wen i get my GSXR 600/750 i no where I’m posting my ECU for some work 👍

[@ryderDoO]

Why do they have a dip in the midrange?

[@CrusaderGeneral]

Man I wish I lived near you bro, so I can take all my bikes to you

[@wienusface]

So many factors... who’s gas was fresher, temp of the engine at the time of dyno, like you said miles played a role, hell even the viscosity Of your engine oil could affect power throughout. Great video

[@johnlam7854]

Professional room!

[@playingfor4]

is it possible to adjust the valves like at what rpm they open on N ? I want them closed up to 7000 rpm on N when police make noise test.

[@raymondrogers5999]

The black 1000 looks just like my bike minus the Brock exhaust I have a yoshi alpha slip on and sounds good but I’m still not sure how much horsepower the bike is making

[@Channel-jy1ui]

By the way, thanks for adding the torque values. I think you heard my cries from the Honda Video. 🥰

[@TeamMooreMafia]

I hear you guys! 😆

[@moorepower13]

Great gains for both bikes. That difference makes no difference when the light turns green on the street(drag racing is different i know). Those guys are going to have a blast on the ride home.

[@tammyforbes2101]

Make it spin more unless they got some super sticky hot tires! I know mine wants to either wheelie or smoke that back tire to a 100mph so anymore power Woolf just spin it harder but I do have a set of pirreli’s on the way and 90 degree bike master air valves for the rims! That should put some power down!

[@karlknudson9249]

brock was pulling 199 of his same bike same mods sup with that ?

[@adult1122]

That 7400 RPM is the BMW killer.

[@michaelwilliams8297]

You will walk your buddy with those gains under the curve...

[@1Serious392]

Thats a very good 🍎 to 🍎 comparsion.

[@daveyt4802]

Chris is a busy man! Needs money to fund all those sweet race bikes. 4 hp difference could be caused by friction in the drive train.

[@Twilight110370]

Luv this dude wish i could bring my battlax 2this guy 💪🏻👍🏻💪🏻👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@blade643]

Hey Chris, curious about headers when it comes to Suzuki. Are 600/750/1000’s compatible? Given same year.

[@connor1982]

No. Only 600/750 are compatible in certain pipes. The 1000 just simply is just too large of a diameter to fit on the smaller bikes for example

[@theeverydayworker2237]

Yooo when I bring my bike I want those gains hahahaha definitely saving up

[@stephenchavis1205]

I have a question?? How are you down shifting without using the clutch is it because it has a load on the bike from the dyno?? I know you can shift up without the clutch but was just wondering about not using the clutch to down shift

[@higherlifts420]

Idk about gsxr but when 2wdw flashed my zx10r they added the clutchless downshifting. It came stock with the quick shifter for clutchless upshifting. So this dude may be able to do that too

[@Daf0ck1]

So slip on has more hore power? I plan to buy m4 gp exhaust cut cata and make tune for power and lovely POPs :D for my Gixer 750. My previous 600rr 08 had silent exhaust... so i want something mega loud cuz I love loud 4inline 600cc/1000

[@elonmust7470]

No, the full exhaust has more power lol.

[@iannsr125]

I have been told that the gsxr is a tight engine and only really frees off at 10k miles so the 4 hp is probably down to a tighter engine , my gsxr 600 since owning it from new 2015 has become more free as it comes up the miles it's near 7k now and it certainly feel difrent more power and pics up quicker too . I am in the uk so we aren't subjected to the power restrictions that are in the states .

[@sugarrfree]

Do i need to re map the bike if i only have a slip on can? Thanks for the answers everyone ✌️

[@dbtrackz33]

If you want to unrestrict your bike and have it running much smoother than you already know the answer. Yes.

[@antownemercer7552]

Thanks for sitting on the bike!

[@TeamMooreMafia]

It makes zero difference. 🤣

[@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS]

@@TeamMooreMafia that's gonna have to be your next comparison video 😂😂😂

[@triedproven9908]

Well black bike tire looks like it wasn't balanced, that will steal a few hp. Good stuff.

[@1N2themystic]

So I just bought a 2021Gsxr1000r and I have a question. This stock muffler is really big and ugly, and I won't be able to get an exhaust for a few months. Can I just run a straight pipe for a few months without changing the fuel mapping? I don't want to have to do it twice in 3 months. And this CAT valve will still be on it to control back pressure, no?

[@TeamMooreMafia]

It won't tear it up to remove just the muffler

[@imjus1guy]

What about oil? Are they using the same oil together

[@TeamMooreMafia]

I do not know about oil. Alyson oil is what they need!

[@AMoneyBig]

Hey Chris, 89 octane in both bikes?

[@TeamMooreMafia]

93

[@dhackstall1]

Wonder if this is another example of hard break in versus factory recommended break in?..

[@garydewberry]

Commenting just to see the replies as I'm curious about that as well

[@stavrosrahnos6071]

I think it is, there is 1 reason manufacturers can't recommend hard break in's and that is law suits. New rider + new bike + hard break in = a really bad time. It's just a safety precaution, that's it. I've read forums, articles, comments sections and watches a lot of videos about it and there has never been evidence in favour of soft break in's that you don't also get with a hard break in. From personal experience I don't have a whole lot to add but of the 2 bikes I have owned from new I can say that hard break in's certainly do not hurt an engine as long as you change oil before "recommended" the first few times. I did 4 oil changes in the first 5k just because I could. my current MT-07 has 50,000 miles with NO (mechanical) issues at all, and I do not treat that thing nice by and means, still on my 2nd set of iridium spark plugs and they still look great every time I pull them.

[@TLNUTTER]

Breaking in a 2018 bike??

[@imsatanscott]

based on rider style and mileage I wonder how much of it is clutch wear.

[@TeamMooreMafia]

Clutch slip would show after back to back pulls. If i had to guess i would say spark plugs were the issue.

[@imsatanscott]

@@TeamMooreMafia me and a friend used to have identical bikes, mods and al. I was consistently faster than him (we're similar size and weight too). He was convinced it was something wrong with the bike so I rode it and the clutch felt like it was made of glass. Replaced it and it came to life. We switched it to the same oil too. Are they using the same oil?

[@gsxr88]

Can I flash with a yosh slip on with Cat and exhaust Valves intact? Don't have the money yet for a full system yet.

[@TeamMooreMafia]

Yes sir. I have a slip on tune! Www.mooremafia.com/ecu-flashing-service

[@gsxr88]

@@TeamMooreMafia what Hp would il get around?

[@bluefox12factsbeforefeelin58]

Got so used to Chris standing next to the bike. It now looks weird seeing him sit on it. Hahaa Go back to standing, it freaking me out. 😂

[@hfr8343]

Weird to see you on the bike while dynoing lol. That's a good looking gixxer

[@ravenwood1135]

I bet the guy's in the shop are glad you got a Dyno room .haha

[@TeamMooreMafia]

For sure! 😆

[@Nikdik]

Where are you located?

[@TeamMooreMafia]

Greenville Sc Www.mooremafia.com

[@nelsboatlife6009]

Are these 1000 Rs and is there a difference in HP?

[@TeamMooreMafia]

No difference

[@jojjen09]

Hi. Great video, but you need to sound damping your roof, it's hard to hear you now in the new room, a lot of echo. Cheers

[@TeamMooreMafia]

I think that's just because it's a small room

[@jojjen09]

@@TeamMooreMafia It's because it's no dampening, I know these things 😊 working with it, you know motorcycles for shure🏍️ 😊

[@gispaAPRN]

Wait, are you in Greer/Taylors?

[@TeamMooreMafia]

Yes

[@gispaAPRN]

Moore Mafia-I ended up here somehow because of Friesian horses (short story: I’m about to possibly buy a horse,) and somehow your store/shop is where I think my cousins‘s old motorcycle shop used to be or maybe still is (Cycle Specialties), however, I don’t go by there often, so I’m not sure? Lol. What a small world!!

[@richiegregory9761]

Do either one of these bikes have the pair valve blocked off?

[@daveyt4802]

Yeah I wonder how that effects AF ratios. Lets in air to reduce NOX emissions. Had them on my SV1000S. You can use them for a crank case vent instead.

[@Julianmoore699]

Yes they do Brocks...

[@derick12331]

Julianmoore699 same gas? 87, ect?

[@Julianmoore699]

Both 87 pump gas

[@daveyt4802]

Is 87 octane recommended by the owners manual?

[@ricardomendez4106]

Chain adjustment, lube, tire pressure will play a little part.

[@TeamMooreMafia]

Tire psi was exact same. I set it. Chain looked to be the same on both

[@ricardomendez4106]

@@TeamMooreMafia Wouldn't expect less. For the record how much have you seen gained from these 3. Probably a good video for the people that go around with dry , clapped out chain & sprockets and 12 lbs in their tire. Keep Hustling!

[@dougl4253]

So is full better then slip on?

[@K-carbon]

If you looks at the video you would know 🙄

[@dougl4253]

I wasn’t trying to be a smartass about it just a simple question

[@ricktaylor3748]

I like your old dyno room better. You had "Moore" room in your old room.

[@roderickhouston1435]

Did they get gas at the same place? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@stavrosrahnos6071]

that's a great video idea, dyno the same bike with fuel from different gas stations!

[@steveyork8069]

Chris said they fueled at the same place at the same time early in the video.

[@craigkelly3372]

@@steveyork8069 That's what i heard, both got fuel at same place together

[@bluefox12factsbeforefeelin58]

Seems like 2016-17 were alil bit more powerful than the New 2018-19. 🤔 Gsxr1000s & the Zx636

[@backyrdbully3276]

17:22

[@uchiha_d1334]

Holy Fukin shit!!!! 30 hp?!?!? New bike who this.

[@thiamsnelson2968]

Definitely how they broke them I'm. Different techniques Different results

[@kingtee94]

Man I want to take my Gen3 Zx10r to you! I think I’m only like 2.5 hours away!

[@baruti3405]

Synthetic oil vs conventional

[@zx10power90]

One was built on wednesday and one was built on friday..lol.. bhaha!!

[@tonyjohnson4431]

That's bad to the bone that's a good that is some good horsepower increase

[@jurzyjohner432]

Sounds like you went up $100.00 there buddy.

[@MrSmurfnanne]

There are three things that will make two identical bikes different: tolerances, tolerances, and tolerances...

[@I-Need-Saving]

Black bike guy will win every race though. Weighs way less than the owner of the blue bike lol. Sorry but size matters here. Smaller the better 😉

[@TeamMooreMafia]

I think u might be right. 🤣