Christ's Sonship in Time and Divine

[@cal6741]

Humility often leads to more profound truths, than details and speculations would.

[@dailytheology1689]

Thanks Dr. Blanco

[@4570sharps]

Can anyone help me find one of the video clips of Dr. White refuting William Lane Craig's idea that philosophy is superior to, and an authority over Scripture?

[@gabrielkinzel3389]

Sure, I just watched something like that recently.

[@gabrielkinzel3389]

sorry man, i didn’t find it. I shouldn’t make promises that I don’t keep. Sorry :[

[@4570sharps]

@@gabrielkinzel3389 thank you for trying. It's the worst thing about the Dividing Line, we have an encyclopedia of apologetics and theology of years of this stuff but can't lookup much of it at all.

[@gabrielkinzel3389]

@Mark OnTheBlueRidge I see. Thank you friend for bringing that to my attention. I shouldn't have said that. Good day, if the Lord wills

[@dantejager9296]

To be honest the Monarchy of the Father seems like the correct view.

[@silversurfer2703]

Wouldn't incarnation sonship make more sense?

[@silversurfer2703]

@Mark OnTheBlueRidge doesn't that imply eternal subordination of the Son to the Father ?

[@silversurfer2703]

@Mark OnTheBlueRidge thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'll have to think about that , interesting.

[@silversurfer2703]

@Mark OnTheBlueRidge just curious at that time will Christ still continue to have a physical body or will that also cease to be?

[@rsk5660]

luke 1v35 the holy spirit shall come upon you therefore that holy thing shall be called the son of God. This is a definition of why Jesus is called the son of God. Do you have one for eternal sonship. No. Just theorising but no scripture. See what Martha believed in John 11v21 - 27. She did not think Jesus was God but the son of God. Simple if you think things out for yourself. It is revealed to babes.

[@reallifelegend4781]

what is alté théos

[@AidenRKrone]

The three divine Persons of the ontological Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Ghost - are coequal and coeternal, meaning that they are of the same substance, essence, attributes, nature, being, and existence. The Son has always been functionally and relationally subordinate to the Father, and the Holy Ghost is functionally and relationally subordinate to the Son and the Father. The Son's subordination to the Father is sempiternal, not only incarnational. If the Son has not always been subordinate to the Father, then that effectively destroys the economic Trinity, because then the Son would not _be_ the Son in the first place.

[@yasaaley]

It is a pity that so called Christian leaders will not uphold the gospel in its simplicity. How do you suppose the laity can be helped to draw closer to the Lord and his Father with this complex and confused speculations which have no solid basis in scripture.

[@ThruTheUnknown]

So basically Calvin said Jesus was autotheos because he didn't really like the idea of the Son being begotten in any sense.

[@Dragontron20]

That word in the Greek can also be translated “unique” (Referring to monogones which has historically been translated as “only begotten”).

[@faithfultheology]

​@Dragontron20 how's he unique if hes.same as father. They be same

[@ReformedMike]

@@faithfultheologythat’s not true, there is one God, Calvin still recognizes The Father as the fountain. The fact there is one God yet this One God has a Son who is equally God, yet different in person whom the Father loves and the Son love back, yet not two Gods, is in fact.. unique

[@seanchaney3086]

You guys give Calvin too much prominence

[@thebiblerefutesheretics2054]

The Trinity doctrine is heresy. Please repent. Acts 2:38

[@billyr9162]

The Trinity is not heresy. It's in The Bible from beginning to end.

[@4570sharps]

God has attributes that require interpersonal relationship. These are uncreated eternal attributes like love, "God is Love". This is a nonsensical statement in a unitarian worldview outside the biblical understanding of the Trinity. "The bible Refutes Heretics" if God is love, and in eternity past before God created anything, how was God being patient, not self seeking and kind? (1 Cor. 13)

[@Silver-ts6wg]

What does act 2:38 have to do with trinity? It’s talking about baptism

[@silversurfer2703]

@@Silver-ts6wg it seems the guy is a modalist. ( I think he is trying to say since Jesus said to baptize in the name of the Father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit, and then peter by supposedly baptizing in Jesus name that's supposed to mean Jesus is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, 3 modes of God not 3 persons hence modalism). Hope that helps.

[@Silver-ts6wg]

@@silversurfer2703 I see, thanx