Double Burner VS Single Burner Gas Forge (Mr. Volcano)

[@thatoneguy454c]

I have the double burner Mr.Volcano and I love it. I upgraded the regulator and the gas lines but other that that it is fantastic. It gets insanely hot and heats the steel very evenly. It is big enough to make some good size projects.

[@shadowcastre]

The double burner is a good forge and is functional for what it is. A couple of things.. 1) Many thin coats of Satanite will reduce cracking. It's a process. 2) I also remove the burners when finished for longer burner life and no chimney effect. 3) I agree.. the burners are in the wrong location. They should be mounted in the top center spaced appropriately for more even heating. I'll be modifying mine. 4) The swirl ( a pet peeve of mine) is a fallacy that is passed around and makes no difference.... Unless, you have a vertical forge. Any swirl you might achieve gets interrupted by the work being placed inside in a horizontal forge. Thanks for the video...

[@KnifemakerMike]

Thanks for comparing the two. I’ll keep using the single burner for now. Great for making small objects.

[@nerfherder4284]

Some hardibacker board with a couple holes drilled in them would do a lot to help that chimney effect as well as protect the plastic lines. Just bought a 2 burner and glad I watched this and read all the comments b4 assembly. Thx

[@mountainwolf1]

I just finished this forge Today i crafted a japanese nata for sumi kiri and wood chopping. I will be using the two burner and my japanese forge so i have the option to use my home made pine charcoal or propane. I still have yet to attempt to build a tatara for making tamahagane thank you for sharing your wisdom with us all.

[@stevecaptin007]

I would love you to put a ribbon burner in one of them, or maybe do another one on ribbon burners, to see pro's and and cons, and your take on what can be done in what size ect. Once again, another great video roy

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Just might be a good video idea in the future 🙂 thanks for sharing

[@mikeroach8476]

As a beginner looking at all the tools needed to start up. You seem to be on track for me. Thanks.

[@erikcourtney1834]

Your point about work size is exactly why I have a small Venturi forge, a big ribbon burner and a coal/ charcoal forge.

[@GWIRailroad]

Thank You Roy, another great video. Having a problem getting coal, I wanted to try a gas forge and this seemed to be a reasonable way to start. The information as always with you has been great , looking forward to following along as you do more videos on the Volcano forge. Wayne

[@stevenparson0]

See I was going to get one of these I don't know I'm still debating on whether to get one or not but making videos about it definitely helps to decide whether people want one or not good video

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

I'll have at least 6 More videos on these coming soon 😊 so stay tuned And thank you for watching

[@stevecaptin007]

Been waiting for this video, thanks

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Glad you enjoyed it 🙂 thank you for wait And watching

[@hoghearse6316]

Thanks for the video Roy. To answer your question regarding what we'd like to see, I personally would like to see more of a POV on how you run\maintain\what to look out for on your coal forge. I'm fairly new to this art and watched a ton of your videos but I seem to be burning through bituminous coal like it's going out of style. Thanks again for everything you do. I hope that made sense

[@milkytoast6245]

great video, i just fired up my single burner mr volcano today, and it also cracking for me but thankfully it came with extra satanite refractory to repare the cracks.

[@wayneheitz8390]

Good honest comparison. Looking forward to further reviews. 🤞🙏👏👏

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Thank you Wayne

[@HisWayHomestead]

Hey Roy! Troy got me hooked... my anvil will arrive friday... now I need a forge

[@stevemoore5053]

Thanks Roy, I was looking at getting a 2 burner.

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Glad it was helpful 😊

[@mikeroach8476]

Also being located in calif. people tend to think their anvils, coal or gas forges are made of gold. But I’ll keep looking as I’m also a prospector who is patient.

[@TAS1303]

Well thought out and informative. Thanks Roy, God bless

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Thank you Sully 🙂

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Very nice job Roy. Very informational and helpful video. Thanks so much for exampleing it very well Roy. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge on. Fab on. Weld on. Keep making. God bless.

[@Carterironworks]

Great video once again sir. Only thing I can think of as a video recommendation involving a great forge would be the economics of using one for production runs of items pros, cons... I really like my solid fuel forges so far but it sounds like you use the gas forge for those kinds of things. Excited to see what you put out next.

[@roliver7773]

Love your channel, learned a lot. My question is what refractory cement would you use instead of the one supplied with the forge? I have a forge ordered and would like to get a better cement. Thanks in adance.

[@tricorter1]

I gotta wonder, if you depress the firebrick into the bottom of the forge before/during application of the refractory, will you get a better heating vortex because the firebrick is lower? You don't even have to refractory the brick into position, just make an indent in the wool/refractory coating to make a spot for the brick.... any thoughts?

[@ohiovalleyforge5383]

Seems like a good idea, I just bought one e of these to play with and for the kids I may try that when I put it together

[@nerfherder4284]

Might give that a try and possibly a fire brick pad to place it on.

[@stevemoore5053]

I saw that on a different video, and if worked our fine.

[@marcferretti]

The insulation insulates better than the firebrick. The lack of insulation on the bottom would lower the temp more than the advantage of better airflow

[@jerrodlopes186]

A suggestion: It's not difficult to cut and shape firebrick to suit your needs. Use a bandsaw with an older blade or a hacksaw blade, etc. They make thinner profile firebrick for wood burning stoves. You can also custom cast your own firebrick quite easily that will fit perfectly in your forge. What about running a fan to cool down the burners on the outside?

[@skilletborne]

Cooling down the forge with a fan would reduce energy efficiency and slow down heating times, and could potentially interfere with the burners. A better option would be to add more insulation to the outside

[@nerfherder4284]

A piece of hardiboard would work well, cutable.

[@sooooooo8]

Hi, great content, thanks. I have a single burner Mr. volcano, seems fine so far for my limited use. I agree with your design critiques, the location and angle of the burners would be better. Wondering if you have tried to use 2 (maybe reducing the width) bricks creating a “V” to better direct the flame?

[@tezztheseeker]

Have you considered rolling the whole forge one turn so that it sits on its side? The burners would then be on the top half of the side and angled more closely to horizontal.. the base would be taller than the other wall but it should still be able to have a stand made that holds it that way.. then place the fire brick on the new bottom.. just a thought

[@patrickharmon9459]

Just a thought, since the forg flair's out from the bottom, then form's the roof of the forg!!! Why not squeeze the widest part of the forg to the same width of the floor and make the burners come more centered to the forg? You'd may have to tweak it to get what you want, but it's an option. Let me know what you think. Keep up the good work and God bless.

[@Alfredbustamante]

Hi there, awesome video. I built a small forge with those white bricks, still need to try a few things, but my question is, is the burner right on top bad to get good welding temp? Thank you beforehand...

[@paulorchard7960]

Be interested in a good look at your artist forge there Roy!

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Did one about three years ago but it would be a good time to do a second take...

[@melgross]

Very good review. I would love to know what forge you prefer to this. These seem to have more negatives than positives, though they are cheap.

[@ericwentworth7533]

Awesome, would love to see you review a cast master propane forge.

[@keithbragg]

Hey Roy how about a video showing how to go about moving the burner location on the mr volcano forges to improve the efficiency of the forges Regards Keith

[@rman713]

Thanks for the video!

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

You're welcome!

[@Sol-Orion]

I have the double burner in this video- I was wondering if there'd be any downside to just getting the braided steel regulator/hose combo you have on the single burner forge and running it as a single burner? I bought it because the single burner was out of stock, and it was only ~$20 more at the time(iirc), but at the moment I don't really need the double burner aspect- I'm mostly working on small beginner projects. Keychains, small knives, that kind of thing.

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

This particular model can be used double or single just remove one burner and Make sure it's shut off.. but it most definitely could be converted with a additional line like you mentioned 🙂

[@MadMFox]

You sure can. That's exactly the way I run mine.

[@iwdavey]

Really enjoy your videos.

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Thank you good Sir 👍☺️

[@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740]

Ahhhh. See that was my thought. The burners angle is off with a brick installed. Perhaps the company can take a look at this w a real blacksmith input. As a side note I'm curious if a coating over the refractory cement along the lines of ht100 or the likes would ease the cracks? Blessings brother Crawford out 🙏⚒️🔥🧙🏼‍♂️

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

It might do ok will have to give it a shot as I have some on hand 😊 Thank you Mr Crawford Sir for watching

[@kennruckey]

I’m looking at purchasing a forge, specifically a propane forge. I’ve done some research and some people suggest purchasing a gauge to put at the tank so the I know what pressures I’m using, but I can’t seem to find one with actual numbered levels, just color codes Any suggestions?

[@jessikafeathers3009]

Hey I have these 2 burner mr volcano.. mine is cracked up and I thought I couldn't use it anymore🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ thanks for the video.. can u let me know what a good brand of refractor to use when I replace the insulation??:)

[@ajninten]

You speak of the chimney effect as well as the brick getting in the way of the heat flow. What about rotating the forge so the burners are coming out of he opposite side and angled up?

[@joygiesa4486]

I am using a single home made burner. I want to be able to molten metals to Cupel them. The forge is still not getting hot enough. Precious metals and collector metal (lead or bismuth ) can you help advise me. Please and thank you Joy

[@GregsAutomotive]

im wondering if i am able to melt metal, preferably steel with this. does it get hot enough?

[@rockingeforge]

Will both/either of these get to welding heats? Considering the price, I'm willing to forgive the issues, but I want to be able to do small welded pieces like flux spoons, tongs, etc. My Majestic is falling apart, and I move frequently, so I want something cheap so I don't have to worry about it so much, but I want it to be able to do just about any small thing I need to do with it.

[@tiger_modern6534]

interesting, just got my hero 2 today and the burners were already moved further up on the roof

[@randallhackworth421]

Couple things. First is it workable to only use 1 of the burners in the 2 burner? Or would it be a waste of fuel and heat? And maybe mr volcano watched this. I just bought a single burner and the burner is almost dead center and heats really well in all directions. They also included a better designed shut off valve angled at 90* from the burner, it doesn’t get hot, but the air restriction does. My refractory has small cracks but nothing to be concerned about.

[@lynnwier9739]

If you have a dbl burner do you have to fire both at the same time. Or can you just run 1at a time. I'm setting up my 1st forge .

[@blackwolf3837]

Love the videos it helps a lot 😎🐺

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Glad it was helpful 😊

[@philippequinton8722]

bonjour! whitch one for making damacus ? or other one . thanks and bonne continuation

[@jerrygraves5956]

Do you think blocking the ends with bricks might have something to do with the chimney effect?

[@derrickrepko1670]

I have to double burner but mine only has a shut off valve on one of the burners?

[@bobgore1962]

Hey Brother, great video! Thanks for sharing! 🙏🏻😎👍🏻🔨🔥🔪 Also... What do you think about using a metal pipe, inside the forge, to get a more even heat? I'm guessing that the firebrick would not be necessary, either. 🤔

[@shadetreeforge]

It looks like the firebrick they supply is the type you get at a big box hardware store for wood burners? Either a ceramic tile or a soft fire brick slit length wise with a handsaw. I'm sure 2 burners will get hotter than 1 as for the refractory those of us in the club that have gas forges, we all experience cracking! It's because of the thermal cycling of heat up and cool down it's going to do this

[@PB8man]

I ordered the single burner and it didnt come with the 90 degree valve. Where did you get yours?

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

It came with It.... My guess is that they have some supply chain issues and that's the reason for the difference

[@PB8man]

@@ChristCenteredIronworks all good. Thanks a ton!

[@Mccormickdylan11497]

To anyone reading comments for the single burner regulator what ball valve is being used?

[@jamesbrandon8520]

I’ve been using satanite on my forge and the instructions say only apply 1/8” at a time and let set for 24 hours then another 1/8” then after another 24 hours you have to cure it, you start the forge on low until it lets some steam out or for only like 15 minutes, then let cool completely the the next time a little longer and so on until there is no longer any steam coming out of it, probably 3 or 4 cycles then it’s cured and ready to use

[@kuchtatoni5650]

Wich one Burns hotter?

[@stome3416]

I'm trying to think of something that could go on the bottom that's thiner then a fire brick. Can't really come up with anything other then a brick cut in half the long way. Doesn't really seem easy to pull off.

[@paulorchard7960]

You could try a ceramic tile!

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

Look into kiln ceramic stand... Thank you for watching

[@stome3416]

@@ChristCenteredIronworks interesting. Thanks for the idea. I'm with you I think it world be an improvement not to that the burner blasting the fire brick edge.

[@stome3416]

@@ChristCenteredIronworks got my hands on kiln shelf from a local pottery and ceramic place. Have only used it briefly so far but it absolutely changes the flame behavior to do swirling they seem to be aiming for

[@Noone4207I0]

They don't come with a cut off valve on the single burner anymore

[@bradmaas6875]

A multi burner forge gives you the ability to do longer objects, it looks like you can run as a single burner for smaller projects.

[@horehoundbasedcandy8736]

Just remember guys, don’t screw up the refractory cement, finding a suitable replacement is a nightmare.

[@markschoenberger7825]

Now we will talk about gas use ... I have not tested how much gas it uses ... Goes on to guess how much it uses ... (Not helpful unless you actually test that unit ...)

[@robertwhitney2232]

Hi Roy, you scare me with that Bic lighter, lighting the Forge. Setting around the campfire telling stories, every now and then the story comes up of Bic lighters cheching fire or exploding. These are people in the welding industry. I play with propane and oil field engines, fabrication and welding. All it takes is a leak and a spark. 🔥 I always say, "this is done by a professional, please don't try this at home"⚒

[@ChristCenteredIronworks]

I scare myself sometimes 😜 but Yes your right for videos I should do things the safest way possible.

[@shadetreeforge]

I light mine in 2 different ways,(no Mr volcano) #1 light small wad of paper and pop it in the forge and turn on gas, or #2 propane torch lit and pop it in and turn on gas, due to angle of the torch my hand is no where near mouth of forge.