Christi and Melissa’s Tense Relationship //Uncovered S3E18

[@LiterallyVee]

I feel like at times it seemed like Christi said too much and Melissa kept too much hidden. Christi thinks with her heart and Melissa thinks with her head. Melissa acted like a manager and Christi acted like a mom

[@Nayeonlover1111]

Exactly

[@berrisfueller6221]

Agreed

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

Christi thinks with her heart is fine, but Melissa didn't think with her head. She spoke some inapropriate things which led to the blowouts between the 2, most of the times.

[@susangarcia2506]

VanitaKay Wow, very astute, that's actually a great observation!

[@kenziereiss]

this is a really good analogy actually!

[@Cactus12]

I think relationships are complicated. Christi wasn’t always right, and Melissa wasn’t always wrong. They were both under extreme pressure, so it’s no wonder they lashed out in the ways they did. We have never been in their situations so it’s unfair to judge them too harshly. I do side with Christi much more than I side with Melissa, because usually the way Christi acted was in reaction to Melissa (or Melissa and Abby teaming up), so if Melissa had just been honest about things in the first place, some blow ups wouldn’t have occurred. With that being said, Christi would cross the line when she aired details about Melissa’s affairs, but I’m sure Christi would even agree to that now that it’s all said and done.

[@berrisfueller6221]

Well said! It did seem like Christi at times would instigate some things. That, and come across as petty. But I understand Christ’s frustrations with Melissa.

[@sunnylemon5626]

I totally agree with everything you said!

[@starsolos]

@@berrisfueller6221 100% agree

[@danceaudioswapsaldc8116]

Christi knew that if Chloe got 2/10’s of the attention Maddie did, and wasn’t berated by Abby every single day- she would’ve been in the same place as Maddie. What Melissa and Abby did was disgusting. I adore Maddie and she deserves what she’s earned, but Chloe was put down for the sake of Maddie (which was unnecessary). And Melissa thought it was okay. Always.

[@dianamunoz4296]

​@@berrisfueller6221 I feel like Melissa was the petty one, nobody likes liars nor snakes and that's what Melissa was on the show. Keyword: WAS

[@mabellockett4411]

i don't deny that melissa is probably very unstable and untrustworthy but she had her good moments and i think deep down she and christi really cared for the kids and have a special place in their hearts for one another

[@v3nusplanetoflove645]

When watching the show i used to view christi as overly angry, however i’m older now and i completely understand her anger. I feel like the show also tried to paint her as a dramatic and jealous person as well. I now understand that she just wanted better for Chloe :(

[@loushark6722]

I always tought that as well

[@Shortshortsandpizza]

Christ is the same as Melissa a lot of the times worse but nobody wants to talk about that

[@pinkperfectpeach7544]

@@v3nusplanetoflove645 Yes omg! And it always irks me now when I see comments saying ‘the kids are more mature than their parents’ for telling their mothers to not stop Abby treating them badly! They’re not more mature, they’re more terrified 😭

[@sunnylemon5626]

After listening to Because Mom Said So, I’ve really liked Melissa a lot more and I feel like she’s grown a lot since dance moms.

[@themalak.]

melissa and christis relationship was always harsh, but there were a few times they were so close. i do agree that Christi has every right to complain about maddies unfair treatment

[@AubriiisLife]

yesss i agree christi is not wrong for sticking up for her child and complain about maddie being a favorite, but i also feel that christi should not bring up melissa’s private life in arguments sometimes

[@nathalianunez6692]

Christi wasn´t the only one who complained about Maddie´s unfair treatment. All the moms complained about it

[@mackenziedobbie8647]

I think Christis she is mean to Maddie and Melissa

[@AubriiisLife]

@@nathalianunez6692 your right but the video wasnt about them its about christi and melissa

[@susangarcia2506]

@Chardonae Bullard That's true but how many times did Christi ask Melissa to go outside so they could speak alone instead of in front of the kids? But Melissa wouldn't.

[@hv9460]

the scene where christi goes to mackenzie, who was feeling defeated after melissa was mainly rooting for maddie, and says "You go out there and be mackenzie, you dont have to be maddie to win, because mackenzie is just as good" that always stuck with me at how much christi cared.

[@Gabngaff]

I’ve always thought this relationship was complex. And being on a tv show definitely didnt help. But I always gave each the benefit of the doubt. It can be hard trying to mend and heal a relationship on national television. For both.

[@onesweetangel1017]

Christi always confronted Melissa with valid points but whenever she would bring up the affair and her personal life in the argument she lost my support for her. It’s totally irrelevant to dance and was more used to insult her which left a bad taste in my mouth. No one should be shamed for not having perfect marriages or household situations and it’s never okay to bring it up in public without the person’s permission. It got to the point where she had to send all the moms a letter from her attorney to stop talking about it because they kept insisting on bringing it up after being told several times not to.

[@susangarcia2506]

OneSweetAngel101Actually, that isn't even true because the Producers forged those letters and sent them to the Mom's themselves, that's how messed up the Producers are. They were so childish, them even switched costumes sometimes so that one of the girls would ugly costumes or costumes that didn't fit just to start drama!

[@kenziereiss]

true but i don’t think christi was shaming her for failed marriage she was shearing her for being a cheater, which in my opinion is something people should be shamed on.

[@brendenreecegaming284]

@@kenziereiss that's something that shouldn't even be discussed on national tv, whether melissa cheated or not, it is none of Christi's business and should've never been brought up

[@kenziereiss]

@@brendenreecegaming284 never said it was, i was just stating that she was shaming her for cheating not for being a bad mom lmao.

[@brendenreecegaming284]

@@kenziereiss yes, but Christi was wrong for bringing it up, it’s none of her business

[@s.a.3746]

They both had their flaws and issues, and they’re flaws just happen to be polar opposites of each other (Christi lashed out and created too much conflict and Melissa avoiding conflict by being sneaky and lying) leading to a lot of clashing. Despite that I do really think they both cared very deeply about each other’s kids and even about each other

[@sheilarodriguez3852]

P

[@alexmun7391]

i totally understand christi’s frustration with maddie’s treatment and melissa’s behavior (god knows i would be too, cuz melissa is a piece of work sometimes) but she also took things too far sometimes, especially when talking about the zieglers’ personal lives. neither of them are really “in the right” when you think of their relationship as a whole, and obviously tensions are high when you’re on a reality TV show that likes to manipulate you and your children’s words and expressions, so their friendship wouldn’t have been destroyed like this without the show

[@Ducklordjosh]

This is the dance moms uncovered I’ve been waiting for 🤩

[@aliceg4057]

Same omg

[@Wikibeauty]

I think Melissa was just too afraid of Abby in the beginning and it was easier to ignore Abby’s bad behavior when her kids were the favorite. But as time went on it wasn’t so easy for her to ignore. After Kelly and Christie left with their girls, all that nastiest shifted on to Mackenzie and Nia. I think that’s when melisssa starts to fully understand what Abby was doing to everyone else.

[@emmyjo720]

Melissa wishes she did speak out more as she also loathes Abby too, and Mackenzie was very hurt. Abby was disgusting for encouraging Maddie to miss school too.

[@ellingtonfeint13]

They go together like oil and water. Christi is a confrontational, hot headed mess and Melissa is a so cowardly that she resorts to dishonesty in order to avoid discomfort.

[@v3nusplanetoflove645]

this is so true !

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

I just don’t like Melissa remember when Nia and Kendall was doing music videos and Aubrey called Holly to speak to Nia and Holly pulled Nia out of class for a second and Melissa was talking so much shit but when Jess called her out in front of Holly she denied everything she’s a coward and jealous she literally contradicts everything she do

[@nynyslay2071]

@@Jessica.Shawnte Melissa, Jill, & Abby was so rude to holly & Nia in season 5. They had no support from people they knew for years and you would think Melissa would side with her but no she was agreeing with everything Jill & Abby said and even was instigating.

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

@@nynyslay2071 they’re jealous people.. look how Jill treated Brynn I’m sorry but Kendall was never one of the best dancers in my opinion she danced better than Paige and jojo but not Nia and Brynn Jill knew it and took it out all on Brynn she knew Kendall wasn’t better at singing so she took it out all on Nia…. Melissa is an airhead she thought her daughter was gonna be the breakout star but jojo is

[@kayseecoward7571]

I think I remember Christi saying in a KZbin video that she actually hates confrontation

[@joser4573]

Melissa was definitely influenced by Abby 100% in a lot of what she did. I feel like now with how severed Abby and Melissa’s “relationship” is, Melissa is now seeing and truly regrets a lot of what she did just to be on Abby’s good side. Like that’s how much power Abby had, and honestly still has (which is insane to think about). I don’t feel like shes a horrible human being as some people, and the show make her out to be. I just feel like Abby played a huge role in some of the things she’s done while staying on her good side so that her kids can be secured and successful, and is probably now seeing that it just wasn’t worth it.

[@ava-cado3254]

Couldntve said it better 👏

[@amandamandamands]

The problem is that I'm not sure that she has grown from that. Melissa jumped straight from Abbey to Sia and according to Sia she was extremely influential in what projects Maddie did or didn't take as she was growing up.

[@jilliankyla2983]

EXACTLY! You can’t convince me Melissa wasn’t somewhat brainwashed by Abby into treating the other dancers and moms the way she did just to put her family in Abby’s good books (that would probably also explain why she was the alleged team spy),

[@wheniwatchtheworldburn3184]

Melissa isn't sorry, she was glad she did what she did to get her children ahead, even if it meant selling her soul to the devil, which she kinda did. She used abby (yes abby deserved it but(

[@fionaodoherty9502]

@@wheniwatchtheworldburn3184 exactly she only stopped kissing Abby’s ass once she realized she didn’t need her to get ahead and successful - cuz they had sia and where gonna leave already

[@chichi3183]

The fact that even Abby is confirming everything Christie said, it makes Melissa look really bad

[@hannahpollard9297]

But we all knew Melissa took her kids out of school during the day. That's not new information

[@penelopehove115]

But it’s not like Abby didn’t encourage it, Melissa was loyal to Abby till the legal situations.

[@chichi3183]

@@penelopehove115 I know Abby is only exposing it because she and Melissa aren't on speaking terms.

[@chichi3183]

@@hannahpollard9297 Actually on the show Melissa would act like it wasn't true, and would call the moms jealous when they talked about it

[@Kayla-jy6vh]

@@hannahpollard9297but when Christi would bring it up , Melissa and Abby would say she’s jealous of Maddie and etc🙄 Abby herself confirmed that Maddie was her favorite for a reason

[@ciarau12]

I love Christi and Melissa. I think they both made mistakes on the show and I think they both, especially Melissa, have learned and grown from them. It's nice to see all of the moms occasionally interact on social media and seeing that they all, and the kids, all follow eachother on social media now!

[@Blue2950]

Whats an example of Mel learning and growing from her mistakes?

[@ciarau12]

@@Blue2950 she talks about how much she wishes she had acted differently on the show in interviews and on the podcast all the time. People are capable of change.

[@iminurwallspg13]

i think that it's really sweet that Maddie and Christi had a pretty close relationship. Maddie telling Melissa to let Christi get her splinter is so cute😭😭🥰

[@uniquelyvicky6391]

They never did. Please stop the lies. Maddie never did like christi even now she still doesn't. She tolerated her because she was one of the moms on the show.

[@lay8949]

@@uniquelyvicky6391 stop trying to make Maddie seem bad christi said in a video u don't know do u be there Maddie like all the girls she even close with nia

[@uniquelyvicky6391]

@@lay8949 I will never make Maddie look bad. Maddie isn't bad and was never bad unlike a partucular mom who did everything to make her look bad... like I said Maddie doesn't have Christi's time and never had. Maddie never said anything about being close to christi. Of course Maddie is close with Nia and Holly.

[@emmyjo720]

@@uniquelyvicky6391 Nia is close with Chloe and Kenzie too. Holly is friends with Christi, Melissa and Kelly. Nia is the one that brings them together. Maddie also has a close friendship with JoJo. Christi is closer to Brooke and Paige. I think Chloe and Maddie have privately become friends again. Maddie needs friends that aren’t much older than her.

[@reignpinder231]

@@uniquelyvicky6391 you seem like you know a lot about all of their relationships. Are you friends or relatives of one of them or something?

[@heyitmaggie2390]

I love how now that Melissa has benefited from never speaking up for any of the kids on the show is NOW claiming that she would “now say something” That easy to say considering she got exactly what she wanted.

[@amandaveiga908]

My EXACT though

[@saraholivier1349]

Like how Christi benefited from being a bully to Melissa and Maddie

[@sherrynv6671]

I suspect that Maddie and Mackenzie have probably told her that her inaction hurt them deeply.

[@jennaebradshaw1308]

@@saraholivier1349 girl you sound ridiculous

[@heyitmaggie2390]

@@saraholivier1349 Melisa did it to herself but Christi didn’t rlly benefit from her bullying. No one did

[@rachel957]

One thing I always found strange about the show is how Abby acted like the ALDC was some super prestigious dance studio that was super well-known, when in reality it was really struggling financially before the show, and Dance Moms basically saved her business. In her introduction package for the first episode, she said that people around the country 'knew her' because she 'produced stars', but do we actually have any confirmation that any of her dancers that weren't on the show became famous, or at least did well in the dance industry? I also find it odd how she acted like Mackenzie, Kendall, and Nia were famous for their singing careers, and Chloe was recognised because of being the lead in the Lux music video, when we all know they rose to fame through the show. I just think Abby kind of acted like she was responsible for making the cast celebrities, not Dance Moms, which I would love to see an episode on, maybe something like 'what was the ALDC like before the show/during the times Dance Moms wasn't being filmed', or 'how much of reputation did the ALDC actually have', without the obvious answer of being on Dance Moms. I know Abby said she actually lost a lot of business during the show.

[@lovelyrfc]

i think some cast members said that it was because they weren’t allowed to “break the fourth wall” on the show

[@rachel957]

@@lovelyrfc That actually makes a lot of sense. I've also wondered how the ALDC actually ended up on Dance Moms. Did the producers automatically pick Abby, or did they apply for the show?

[@iamhappy679]

OH MY GOD THIS IS EXACTLY MY POINT

[@jahlilsingletary-mask7021]

Christi always made it clear her issue was never with Maddie but with Melissa lying and Abby’s favoritism. The one time Melissa rebelled against Abby in the earlier seasons Abby wouldn’t give Maddie a solo and gave Chloe a punishment solo against Sophia someone she didn’t train and that was much more advanced than Chloe and probably even Maddie. Abby caused most of the issues between Melissa and Christi and it always put Melissa in a difficult spot cause if she argued she risked her business being told and if she was quiet she was a coward and afraid to own up to anything.

[@jessicajamesspeaks]

Deceit, favoritism, prejudice, discrimination, cheating, fraud behavior, and sneakiness are all part of the dance world unfortunately. I experienced it for 12 years and vow to never allow my children to go through the unnecessary drama! I don't miss dance at all because of that.

[@prettypatrece]

Actually production thought Chloe was the top dancer. Abby was afraid to put Maddie against Sophia or anyone who could beat her. Funny thing is Maddie didn’t always place first like the show lead on to believe. Same with some of the group dances and other solos.

[@cc-pg6lh]

I think Christi didn’t understand that Melissa wasn’t doing whatever Abby asked of her to spite the other children, but because she was genuinely scared of the repercussions of saying no and how it would effect her childrens happiness.

[@KathySalmeronVO]

Melissa has even admitted herself on her podcast with Kelly, Holly, and Jill that she promised Kenzie and Maddie that she wouldn’t speak up because they would get in trouble. In season 6 when Melissa stands up to Abby she realized that Kenzie has enough success to maintain herself in the entertainment industry to continue on without Abby.

[@loushark6722]

@@KathySalmeronVO I agree

[@loushark6722]

@@KathySalmeronVO I agree

[@jaydamay6815]

at the end of the show , Christi saying her relationship w/Melissa , as well as Chloe’s relationship w/Maddie was coming together again & it was extremely heartwarming , a perfect ending to the show (or at least the OG’s reign on the show) . I just wish we saw them all interact more w/each other nowadays ..

[@1omarella]

I think during the show there was a lot of shady things going on. I think Melissa was involved in the majority, but can’t be singled out as a villain due to shady production putting everyone against each other. I think now, they probably aren’t “friends” but don’t hold any I’ll will to each other either. When you spend years with a person, in such a unique situation as reality tv, there is going to be a bind there of some kind. There is no one else to relate all of those years too except the people that you were involved with at the time.

[@nathalianunez6692]

Let's not forget that once in Season 6, Melissa stood up for Chloe and Christi from a mother. It was the episode where three sisters went to ALDC and left in the middle of the week. Also, Maddie and Chloe are currently getting along; They were together at Nia's birthday, they went to the Hayla's house. Maddie, like Kenzie, supports Chloe in her new relationship with her girlfriend

[@tylerthomas1015]

Melissa was NOT defending Chloe and Christi, she was defending Abby, and dismissing anything bad happened to the Lukasiaks! Rewatch that scene, and analyze the conversation. The conversation was about Abby being a mean person, and The Quinn kids didnt like Abby. The mom said " I am not the only person who has left this place, what about Chloe? ". Melissa responded with "you dont know the whole story, dont go there " How was that defending CHLOE!? She shut that conversation down immediately, becuase she knew she had a huge hand in Chloe's treatment!

[@brychristian3395]

To me that scene sounded exactly like she was trying to defend and keep heat off of Abby.

[@sam_pie1237]

This is always the Highlight of my week

[@Mar-jq5ck]

Same!!

[@loushark6722]

Ikr!

[@swaggyleemiller00]

They way the moms and girls are still like a big family today says a lot about who was really the problem. It was none of the girls and really none of the moms, it was always abby (and producers ofc) that brought out the worst in them. They are all still close, and where is Abby in this mix? Nowhere❤️😌

[@swaggyleemiller00]

Yea, christi and melissa definetly werent the best of friends, but i think that in the end, and bc of maddie and chloes freindship, will always have a relationship. What makes me so happy is that even tho they were mad at each other a lot, they still love and care for each others kids and love watching them dance together🥺

[@kittyfairy662]

i think it's bc they were too opposite. melissa was an extreme people pleaser, thats why she was doing things behind others backs bc she wanted to please everyone and couldn't say no. but christi was extremely confrontational and not afraid to speak her mind, she also had extremely high standards for others around her. she took the things melissa did too personally, and then she created conflict that melissa would avoid or be shady about.

[@11lululuv]

i have a love hate relationship with melissa. i think deep down she loves and cares about all the kids, but she did a lot of sneaky and mean things.

[@ellywelly156]

its my birthday and i already know this will be the best gift :) edit: Thank you sooo much to everyone who has wished me a happy birthday 🥳

[@cinnaharpo4732]

Happy birthday

[@minvi152]

happy birthday

[@ellywelly156]

@@cinnaharpo4732 ty

[@ellywelly156]

@@minvi152 ty

[@-Taylors.Version-TV]

Happy Birthday! Hope it is great!

[@chloelukasiakcontent]

Even if they are still tense in parts of their relationship, I’m pretty sure they can both agree on a common enemy now: ABBY LEE MILLER

[@jennaebradshaw1308]

They both were mean to children and they both were nice to children so it doesn’t make sense to pin all of the negative things on one another. I think they both should just apologize and move on.

[@kaly_offical166]

Your videos are absolutely incredible

[@heidigutzmer2150]

Watching your videos make me feel good inside with how you make them! You are a very intelligent and good worded person! And thank you for saying everything so tastefully!❤️

[@j-rodthelibrarykid1166]

i feel a change from Melissa from the show to now. she has changed a lot in a good way , i think now would be the time when they are most civil, even if they do not consider each other friends.

[@ghoststan3574]

Thanks for clearing this up. I still felt a tension between Melissa and Christi even after the show. I hope things are okay between them because I think abby was probably one of the biggest sources of contention between the two and I hope they can turn over a new leaf now that their lives aren't being controlled by the directors and producers of a reality TV shows.

[@katina9632]

I live for these videos! For a future vid I’d love a breakdown of what was happening with each cast member before the show began.

[@niccospatrick9368]

I think that the show definitely elevated their feud. Just like people say that the show and the producers made Abby crazy, I think the producers did the same thing to Christi and Melissa. Melissa was definitely not right sometimes, but Christi was also definitely not right sometimes. What I get from it is that they both loved their kid, they both loved the other's kid, but what started out as a healthy competition between the girls turned ugly really fast, especially when instigated by their dance teacher. I'm glad they were able to work through their problems to get to where they are now, but it's sad because I know they could've been way closer if given the chance

[@braxton-z4x]

It’s Abby plus the show and producer’s that made Christ and Melissa relationship so tense

[@ThemedNumber02]

I definitely think their relationship would’ve been neutral or soured without the show. However, the circumstances they were under only worked to heighten the animosity and only worsened their relationship.

[@Titsoak]

I always wondered why Melissa said “undefeated, aren’t ya happy”

[@zephielovet]

I have never been this early omg. I love your videos. Please keep it up.

[@prcelani]

I don't blame christi, her child was being torn apart because of the rivalry between Chloe and Maddie, I honestly think it was good for Chloe and christi to leave, don't get me wrong I absolutely cried when the lukasiaks left, but you could tell that they both were mentally broken from the show and I mean Chloe has gone on to do so much amazing stuff and so has christi which is why I'm so proud of them, And about Melissa, I think in some episodes she was framed as this liar, Christi and Melissa both deep down inside loved each other, like for example at Kellys birthday party when Leslie threw the drink across the room and christi started crying and the first person to comfort her was Melissa, they had cute moments together but I think they needed to distance themselves from each other so yea :)

[@kelsey2333]

This is the best dance moms related content on KZbin

[@Sakkime840]

I honestly did find some moments where Christi was jealous of Melissa, but I also did see some moments where Melissa was jealous as well. Remembering back in season 5 when Mickey mendez was talking about nia’s music video concept and Melissa just shut it down in her interview cause her kids weren’t doing anything at the moment. I just feel that both of the moms had a lot of tension towards eachother and could still have some hidden to this day you just never know

[@lay8949]

Ok what about chirsti u said Melissa side

[@beccafeeney7688]

I feel like in Christi’s video about her favorite non-Chloe solos, when she talks about Maddie and Mackenzie’s solo you can see how much she recognizes their talent. This isn’t in a way a justification for her actions, I just thought it was interesting

[@sunnyk6727]

i hope chloe and maddie are still friends, they had such a sweet friendship!

[@Mollyanholly]

They are

[@LifeOfCandice]

I don't think the girls will ever be as close as they were but they have stated that they have group chats and Brooklyn has mentioned them all hanging out, especially when most of them were in LA. Almost all the girls are adults now, so I'm sure that helps. They don't necessarily need "parents approval" to be friends.

[@izmyra9803]

Honestly I don’t fault either of them as the situation they were in was stressful but I do wish they showed more of their good moments because when they did have good times they seem to really care for each other and their kids. It’s such a sour situation but I hope they’re ok now.

[@dani4975]

i think they’re both good moms just have different ways of going about things. you can tell that christi cared about maddie and mackenzie especially mackenzie. so it definitely wasn’t about jealousy of success but more so about the betrayal

[@boutiquealdc]

Been waiting for this for a while! Tysm for posting and researching!!

[@RomanRulery]

Melissa didn’t like Christi because she was the only one who held her accountable for her actions

[@jessmorgan6732]

I think the rivalry would have been a lot less potent if not for the show. When Maddie and Chloe were just members of the ALDC competition team, all they were really fighting for was some plastic trophies and Abby's attention. Their becoming household names revealed what Melissa really wanted to achieve and how far she'd go to make it happen.

[@rachelbenjamin3984]

love you mackzboss! you put so much effort and i love your videos

[@laurelleaves]

I didn't particularly like Melissa while she was on the show, but it was fairly clear that along with the sneakiness she's a very emotional and sensitive person. I really do believe her when she says she would protect everyone if they could do it again. It's easy to say that, but with how emotional she is, the plenty of times she has and had offered to help other kids, and the fact that she has maintained since they start that they're all a family even with some of the tension she may have with the other moms, I personally believe it's true. Like she was talking about in the last podcast clip, as much as she would get into it with some moms she still was protective of them all because they were family. Also with her relationship with Abby gone, I think she can see it all more clearly and allows herself to be a bit more honest now that she doesn't need to defend Abby constantly because of everything she had over her girls. You can see that, especially at the end of her run on the show.

[@lauchhlol248]

You posting just made my day😍😌

[@ckilbarger01]

I think it speaks well of the other OG moms and of Melissa that they can put it behind them and do a podcast now. I just don't know about Christi.... I mean Melissa says nothing negative or critical about her but Christi still sometimes throws a bit of shade toward Melissa.... I feel like one thing Christie and Abby have in common is neither really hit a real show vs reality balance, for different but to a similar end.

[@Hannah-ck9nn]

I get the impression that Christi to this day is still jealous of Melissa and Maddie. Chloe has had success but not as much as Maddie…

[@londynmurphy8818]

no she doesnt

[@monsepecina1885]

Anxiety, Christy has anxiety for everything her daughter dealt with during the show thanks to the sneaky things Melissa did for Abby to start treating her daughter awfully. She agreed to participate with the other mom's at the podcast but last minute she backed down. she says she's working on her relationship with Melissa. I have a daughter on my own, and it'd be really heartbreaking and infuriating if I see my baby girl get treated like Chloe did.

[@melanierojo2125]

My exact thought! Yes, Meliss did everything for her kids to be on top but she never threw shade at the other moms in a personal way, whily Christi constantly slut-shamed Melissa, fat-shamed Abby and others, and constantly throws low blows at others outside the reality show life only. Edit: Chloe was absolutely one of the biggest Abby victims, but this does not excuse other behaviors. There are no such things as bad or good guys, we're all human who do both bad and good, and Chloe being a victim does not automatically make Christi innocent or inherently good.

[@kennyb1588]

Kristie? As in Kristi Ray? Do you mean on the show or in present day?

[@Gabz98_]

My favorite Mel+Christy moment it's when Christy fight Lesley on Kelly's house and she started crying and Melissa hug her

[@kayseecoward7571]

Please do a video similar to this that focuses on Abby and Kelly’s relationship

[@uni_piggy1237]

anyone else think its genuinely sad that there is so much to touch on for a reality show for KIDS? like amazing job but the fact that its all there and theres still so much more is just so wrong

[@kayseecoward7571]

Dance Moms is not a kid’s show, it may have kids on it but it’s by no means for kids

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

It’s not a kid show why do y’all think that?? The show is literally called DANCE MOMS it’s centered around the moms

[@barbie6378]

it’s not a show FOR KIDS, but the point is, there shouldn’t be this much drama when there are young children involved

[@ampsquadshorts3711]

It’s not a kid show, ok it has kids but it doesn’t mean it’s a kids show or for kids.

[@shimmer4771]

@@ampsquadshorts3711 I watched when I was 13. 😭

[@cheysavlogs]

I still believe that Christi has so much hate towards Melissa and I don’t think that will ever go away which is why she chooses to step away… but that’s just how I see it

[@saraholivier1349]

It's why I don't trust Christi

[@tylerthomas1015]

@@saraholivier1349 after watching someone participate in abusing your kid in national tv for years, I too would have ptsd being in the same room with that person. Especially listening to them pretend they did absolutely no wrong, when MY child is the one who had to endure the trauma behind those actions. I would never trust a person like Melissa. She smiles in your face and shit on you behind your back. Atleast Christi is real about it!

[@haileyparsons3844]

@@tylerthomas1015 They always come here just to spread hate on Christi no matter the situation just ignore her.

[@saraholivier1349]

@@haileyparsons3844 and you always hate on the zieglers.

[@prettyme4387]

@@saraholivier1349 i think we hate on melissa not her kids :)

[@ay1029]

the way I see it, I was a competitive cheerleader so I know what it’s like to see your teammates as competition and sometimes envy them for it, which I imagine was no different for them as dancers. Christi and Melissa both contributed to this competition whether they’d like to admit it or not which formed not just an extremely unhealthy ‘work’ environment, but also made their children nervous wrecks because they were more focused on being the better dancer instead of being an all-around strong dancer to benefit the team. this is where comp dance / cheer can get ugly bc jealousy and insecurity is almost guaranteed.

[@kyliem5335]

I just really like seeing Holly and Melissa making nice comments on Chloe's girlfriends posts. I don't follow Jill because Trumper but she probably does too

[@Gabngaff]

I haven’t been able to watch the last couple videos. Its nice to be back🙏🏾

[@rubyjackson4808]

To the 0.0001% of ppl that are reading thing I hope you have the best day ever

[@loushark6722]

Aww thank you, you too

[@brunapaiva1106]

The way I screamed when I saw this ❤️ I really was hoping for a video of these two

[@princesspaige111]

I Love ur videos so much though. you take such time and detail, and it is very apparent to the viewer. Part 2? or a video about the moms fighting with Melissa

[@princesspaige111]

I find it unfair that they all gang up on melissa, it seemed like a lot of people were on christi’s side but not a lot on melissa’s and I really feel like Christi is much more calculated and competitive than Melissa. The fact that she can never keep Melissa’s name out of her mouth. She still talks about her I’m sure. Christi would talk about Melissa on her podcast and i haven’t heard a peep about Christi on Melissa and the moms podcast.

[@prettypatrece]

I t was obviously that Melissa was a stage mom while she denied it then played victim. Christi had some rough times as well but she was for fairness just like Kelly and Holly were. I’ve seen and heard interviews of Melissa talking about Christi. Just because she doesn’t mention it on the podcast means nothing. At least they are civil and the girls are all cool with each other despite the show.

[@uniquelyvicky6391]

@@prettypatrece 😆 🤣 😂 liess . You wish Melissa talk about Christi. Melissa do not talk about that woman. But christi sure can't keep Melissa's name out of her mouth. She's obsessed with Melissa and her kids.

[@XxBroadwaygonnabexX]

It felt like the rivalry was there even before the show, so I doubt they were ever truly friends. I think as moms you try your best to get along when your children are doing extracurricular as together, which I feel is what their relationship was at best. They were too different to be compatible. Granted they may not have ended things so sourly without the show, but who’s to say they wouldn’t have had the same issues without the cameras on them?

[@jaydamay6815]

I’m not gonna lie , I’m guilty of finding some of their confrontations w/one another funny asf , but I do wish their relationship was better on the show , or at least better portrayed . I know they didn’t hate each other . & Melissa honestly wasn’t all bad to me , even w/how she was portrayed on the show . she cared about the kids just as much as Christi did , but they just had different ways of expressing themselves .

[@Ayden_sandt]

I glad they get along now

[@mimiray7836]

This is random but Melissa wasn’t wrong when she said that producers sabotaged Maddie to forget her dance. Many dancers forgot and ran off stage because of the producers so it was definitely intentional. The producers deserved to be called out on that one!

[@sashaking1115]

Yes I agree!!!

[@cc-pg6lh]

I definitely think Melissa had her shady moments but I also think sometimes Christi was a little too mean spirited and was looking for an argument.

[@asherscoochiestinksasher7542]

Your very true but in the contract mant of the moms stated that if they don’t create a fight then they can’t leave the studio yet at like 8pm

[@danceaudioswapsaldc8116]

Maybe you should watch someone berate your child for the sake of someone else’s 😉 let’s see how your spirit is.

[@ang4588]

@@danceaudioswapsaldc8116 There were times Christi would say things about Melissa when Abby and Maddie weren’t even involved…

[@mimiray7836]

@@danceaudioswapsaldc8116 That’s not an excuse because there were many interviews where Christi talked bad about Maddie and the time she yelled at Paige, Abby wasn’t involved in any of them.

[@madadadaddie]

i have a strong feeling that producers pinned these two moms against each other

[@rissarea23]

I feel like a lot of people are forgetting that the producers staged a lot of stuff. For example Christy said the moms were not allowed to leave the studio at night until they made Drama by picking a fight with one of the other moms. Jill backed her up on it saying that they got home at 12:00 or 1:00 am. And a lot of the cast from the later seasons will also say that the producers would tell them you need to act like this or say this or such and such thing is going to happen. And of course since it's a reality TV show they're not going to put every instance of kindness that the cast showed and that they captured on camera they're not going to put that on TV because they want drama and they want good ratings so of course they're going to go with the things that cause the most drama. There could have been 10 times the amount of good things that were said or good things that happened between Melissa and Christi that we weren't shown because they weren't dramatic enough

[@TeddiCruise-wj6jd]

Why would these intelligent Woman allow all the lies and meanness to happen...Was the money that good..

[@TeddiCruise-wj6jd]

Men coming in bathrooms to take pictures Seriously,that'sick and a red flag to leave

[@gappiekill9156]

Amazing video! Could you do a video covering what the girl did right after season 7? And addressing why camryn and Nia weren’t on the irreplaceable tour?

[@prettypatrece]

Camryn said she wasn’t invited and was most hurt by Nia since they were the closest.

[@javiyepiz]

I think it’s time the dance mom fandom accepts that christi is no better than Melissa and that both of them aren’t the greatest on the show .. I’m not defending Melissa at all because I don’t care for her either, but many times on the show christis behavior was just down right despicable . Her yelling at Paige that her mom is jealous of her and her daughter , her causing senses in front of the children on numerous occasions making them cry , the way she treated any new mom coming in . She honestly is guilty of everything she hates Abby for . I remember that kristie ray says at a reunion that the other moms say christi bullies them and none of them denied it or spoke against it saying that it wasn’t true . Even Melissa has called Kelly out for saying christi is shady at times and fights dirty , Wich is what made christi quickly change the subject and start talking about Melissa’s personal life and marriage issues . She is clearly just not a very nice person and is angry about the way Chloe is treated by Abby Wich is completely understandable , but I think Abby makes a valid argument when she says well if you hate it why do you come back I truly believe christi was living though her child .The scene in the first season where she visits her childhood home she unintentionally admits to living though her daughter wich makes sense and most likely why she acts the way she does because it’s not about Chloe it’s about her , even threatening to punish Chloe just for being nervous before a dance and yelling at her for not trying hard enough or caring enough . I honestly think when she calls Melissa out it’s her projecting her own issues onto her because she does a lot of the same things and has the same motives Melissa does but deals with it in a different way . Christi is just the funny and angry version of Melissa .

[@GMoney528]

0:04 I don’t know why I stopped at the bike screen but I was looking at all the bikes and then I realized that jojo has no basket

[@theselfproclaimedretrogame9383]

neither does nia lol

[@ToPureToBePink]

I love that Christi sent Melissa a shot ski

[@aminalaannn4644]

obviously i loveee love lovee christi and kelly sm and they r probs my fav duo in dm, but i gotta be honest. everytime melissa and christi were friends on the show my heart melted

[@kirstybrown1185]

I always loved Christi but season 1-3 Christi was a huge hypocrite. Chloe got better treatment than everyone but Maddie, and Nia or Paige would have loved to be in Chloe’s shoes. She used to expect Holly and Kelly to defend Chloe when their kids were way worse off. She only really got it when Kalani came and Chloe was properly pushed to the side. Both were just as competitive in my eyes and I loved it. 😂😂😂 They were my favourite part of the show.

[@davidpaolosantosfernandez1526]

Nobody talks about that Christi says that they have a group of chat without Holly 😥

[@jesselopez7196]

At 9:14 the completed the two sapphires duet at jump and Nuvo dance competitions then they competed at sheer talent

[@Thomassteven00]

I side more with Christi because even though Christi did overreact and jump to conclusions sometimes Christi never came off as a liar and sneaky like Melissa did. Melissa was just very sneaky and two faced and the fact that Abby who despises Christi and saying something similar and backing up some of what Christi and the moms have said says a lot. In the end i hope they have left the drama behind and are in a more respectful place since the issues between them and their kids all goes back to Abby who pitted them against each other.

[@Chealnor4life]

I wish we saw Melissa being nice to Chloe on the show we saw her being nice to her

[@Alivzxs]

In season 4, Christi said she has always been friends with Jill since Jill came but not Melissa

[@mjb8513]

MackZboss u r a national treasure!

[@divleendeol2844]

so so so glad there relationship is better nowadays :)) i rly hated there fights on the show

[@loushark6722]

Ikr! They are different but they can be friends

[@Naomi0o_o0]

These Mums would have been absolutely exhausted. And stressed. As an adult my mum tells me things that happened when i was dancing & it was chaos. The effort alone to try to protect me whilst still appearing happy about it would drive anyone to do things they wouldn't usually do or say.

[@Zainahhassan__]

Mellisa confirmed they talk now

[@pounceroreo]

Very good topic and episode

[@catherinemary2098]

Wait so Kendall was on Abby’s ultimate? I don’t remember her being there. I thought it was only Maddie and Mackenzie.

[@Claire-jr8yv]

Can you please do Abby and Kelly’s past before the show?? If you can find anything. I’m super interested

[@aria123345]

Kelly was a student at Aldc when she was like 5 to like 14/15 but then kelly convinced her parents she no longer wanted to dance bc it took all her time and she did not have any time to hang out with friends and what nots. according to both Kelly and Abby, Kelly was like top notch dancer and was one of Abby’s favorite. She always had the best dances and the best choreography and the best classes. but once she quit, Abby held that against her ever since then. and took it out more on Paige than Brooke bc Brooke was a way better dancer than Paige. kelly lowkey was like getting to like rockettes style dancing level. Like baby pushed her and her friends so hard, Kelly wasn’t the only one who left, it was other students who also would say the same thing.

[@Maddie-mt6yb]

And Melissa and Christi enjoyed there daughters dancing together as well.

[@shanewashington6335]

Next discuss MDP

[@AndreeCynthia]

It's disgusting to me that Christi didn't want to apologize to Maddie for screaming in her face. Like are you serious? Screaming at a 7/8 year old for something that was out of her control? It's not like Maddie chose to perform those two solos -- she did what she was told, and so did Chloe. Of course it wasn't fair for Chloe to have a brand new solo versus Maddie having 2 already-known solos. But why take that out on a child? It wasn't the first time Christi got in a child's face like that. I'm pretty sure she made Paige cry, too. That's disgusting. I don't think Christi should always get a pass -- she clearly was in the wrong a lot of times, too.

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

She NEVER yelled in Maddie's face, she was yelling at Melissa. And there's no evidence that she yelled in Paige's face, as well, plus Paige always trusted her and ran to Christi for comfort when Abby threw a chair at her.

[@jessicajamesspeaks]

WTF does Christi need apologize for? The Ziegler's are the family I have the most hatred of!

[@AndreeCynthia]

@@jessicajamesspeaks apologize to the 7 year old for something she had absolutely no control over. When was it ever ok to yell at a child? Maddie did what she was told; she did her solos. The situation of course sucked but again, how was a 7 year old supposed to take responsibility for that?

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

@@AndreeCynthia except that she didn't yell at a 7 year old child, but at her 40 year old mother who was cussing and screaming in the first place.

[@juliaholzschuher]

Maddie came out in support for Chloe when she came out

[@TheNighBeforeGurl]

You should do an episode why they don’t have certain episodes on lifetime and what fights were fake and not

[@Youraverageyoutubeaccount]

When she said ‘I think you can guess who I don’t talk to’i think she was talking about Abby,not Melissa

[@danielaortega7143]

You should see how dance once affected their family lives at home because I know that’s a big issue that I know a lot of the dance moms comment about how hard it was to balance their home life with being on the road every weekend

[@laurah8659]

Just a fan with a suggestion….it’s very hard to hear you at times over the background music ❤️

[@mcm426]

We need an episode on Queen Holly

[@bubbleubble8944]

i don’t like christi thinking she’s above and beyond going on the podcast with the other moms- yet she is still more than willing to gossip about them on her own podcast