✝️ Christian Pastor Stunned by Muslim's Questions About the Bible!

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[@jasonsingh8950]

why you kiss black stone this is idol worship??

[@chrisoakey9841]

You guys should tell the truth. Nicean council did not add stuff in. The brought together the collection we call the bible

[@jasonsingh8950]

@@chrisoakey9841 hahahaha no if you actually read the bible, the trinity is in Genesis, in every book of the Old Testament. The Jews are too smart to let Nicea ruin God's word look at how they are destroying hezbollah

[@chrisoakey9841]

@@jasonsingh8950 sorry, the nicean council was Christians brought together by Constantine to define clearly what Christ taught and we believe. The trinity is in genesis with the "we" statements. It is not in every book. But it is absolutely brought out of the texts.

[@jasonsingh8950]

@@chrisoakey9841 it is in every book bro Chrsit is on every page but yes islam is false

[@YGSTAN06]

How casual he is saying to remove something you don't like....😂

[@raidaradham4625]

"all that nonsense" he is a very rude Pastor with that language, Allah exposed his arrogance

[@MyGamePlays786]

lol shows their true colors at 11:41 when his wife didnt want him giving his info when he was the one who wanted to contact. Disrespectful to think he would have malicious intent smh

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@MyGamePlays786 They never contacted me anyways ^^

[@Malchiar010695]

@@OneFaithFoundationthat’s because ar-rab al 3alameen has seat a seal over their hearts.

[@moonnrise1596]

Nice works brother! May Allah rewards you greatly ameen😊

[@fozhuq5341]

The Christian guy got so upset that at the end he says “some nonsense” in the quran about muddy waters, he knows the facts but cant handle it

[@blancojay1698]

You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.

[@drissf393]

​@@blancojay1698 Readings is change in accent to conserve the same meaning in deffirent dialectes . Arabic is an context language ,you cant ignore the context and try to understand .if someone arab read this ,he will understand that Wonder refer to prophet Mohamed , man its verry clear .i think you dont understand arabic . All The 36 readings have one common explanation. Did you think each reading had its own explanation? The translation you see is wrong, but why? Because it's a literal translation, letter by letter. This is the worst kind of translation, because it does not respect the context of the sentence and does not respect the aesthetics of the language. Imagine that the phrase "emerges from darkness into light" would be translated into the phrase "rises morning" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 educate yourself about the Ahruf (dialects) of the Qur’an and the Qirayaat (recitations) which resulted from them. It is reported that when Muhammad, peace be upon him, relayed the Qur’an, he did so in the 7 different (but overlapping) dialects of the Arabs. The narration chains support this and are able to trace their narration chain to the prophet. They are all part of the one Qur’an and are yet another reason why a human could not have produced it. imagine a person who can’t even speak English showing up to tell you that “one O one” and “one zero one” can’t be the same, and acting like they know. They’d be like “oh they also say OJ for orange juice” so it really means “one orange one”. 😂 or “O’ is used to call someone in classic English” so it really means “one hey one”. 😂😂 I’d just laugh in their face and keep walking.

[@blancojay1698]

@@drissf393 there one says Mohammed one says allah , how is that “accents”🤣

[@drissf393]

@@blancojay1698 you don't seem to understand what I said... The two of them refer to the prophet...

[@blancojay1698]

@@drissf393 you should read it again, one is referring to Allah and another is referring to Mohammed

[@odeebob7826]

"Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart." َ Quran 17 : 81

[@chrisoakey9841]

The trouble with Islam is that you wouldn't know truth. As in the statements about early manuscripts. No. Try 120ish AD. So less than a century. The different dialects. No actual different chapters. Quran's have different numbers of chapters. Different information. Different words. And let's compare sources shall we? When is your earliest Quran? And hadiths? Centuries later.

[@odeebob7826]

@@chrisoakey9841 The real trouble for you when confronting the truth, as mentioned in this verse of the Quran. " They will not believe in it until they see the painful punishment. " Quran 26 : 201

[@blancojay1698]

@@odeebob7826 You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.

[@Eddiea2024]

Christian guy: "I don't have it on top of my head" Me: "Yea, because you don't have any" 🤣

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@Eddiea2024 😅

[@forumef9997]

@@OneFaithFoundation Well, that is a nice civil discussion.. I wonder why the co-existence between the two big religions is so difficult.

[@blancojay1698]

You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.

[@yasminsarwar9629]

Brother Hassan sounds and acts like the Muslim Lantern same mannerism mashallah ❤ may Allah bless you

[@yasminsarwar9629]

@@gnx71 no one can destroy them mashallah, but Shamoun destroyed himself by opening his mouth 😂

[@poppop-fi1bc]

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[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@poppop-fi1bc Insahllah Brother!

[@adamsdabre1619]

Insha Allah

[@FortisFortunaAdiuvat-97]

InsyaAlllah.. Aamiin

[@chrisoakey9841]

Why would you publically support genocide? Is extermination just you, or a general part of islam?

[@statuslevel100x4]

Insha-allah, if creator want

[@arsenictastesprettygood9844]

they say underhanded insults and then pretend like they are having a civil conversation. absolute cowards.

[@HMJKS2000]

11:44 Take his info but give ours 😂😂😂 what a cop out

[@elsaint7657]

love how the muslim is teaching the pastor. 😂

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@elsaint7657 😄

[@Bemark100]

He is not changing his mind. When you know him, there is no way you will follow another. When you have been joined married to him, there is no other. Have you become 1, or do you just follow a book?

[@blancojay1698]

Let me teach u , You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.

[@gnx71]

I love how Christian Prince teaches and shows all the foolish stories in the Quran and Hadiths. They're hilarious.

[@zarabees2123]

@@gnx71did he ever talk about his loving god that ordered to kill babies ruthlessly, he did ever mention incest in the Bible .?

[@sirajhassan1746]

Very truthful conversation.

[@CondorLennox]

Hahahahaha!. Christian preacher clearly said I dont care about church Fathers I only read the "other preachers' that tell me what I want to hear to justify what I feel about jesus. Hahaha! Anyway "Gary Habermas" is a theologian not a historian.

[@mshaheed2495]

😂 that didn't go the way he thought it was going to go. And once our brother started hitting him with facts, he tried to go to the Islamic lying websites to prove a point

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@mshaheed2495 He never reached out to me either ^^

[@gnx71]

@@OneFaithFoundation WHy don't you reach out to Sam Shamoun, Rob Christian or Christian Prince?

[@Theyellowbosss]

@@gnx71Because they do listen .people try to teach them.but they are just hateful enough not to listens. They are more concerned about check.

[@Cut-thieves-hand-new-law]

How can anyone claim following jesus while wearing the Pagan Roman symbol of torture and murder used against him ?

[@odeebob7826]

" So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. " Quran 2 : 79

[@CondorLennox]

Nothing new with this Christians preachers and their mental gymnastics.

[@Hannestv4607]

*What your imams don't tell you* Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *this is a mistake in the Qur'an!*

[@Hannestv4607]

*What your imams don't tell you* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*

[@CondorLennox]

@@Hannestv4607 SURE! Chicken prince!

[@Hannestv4607]

My friend. Are you saying that the Word of Allah does not exist according to the Quran? The Word of Allah is the Son of God! Son of God does not mean that God has a child!

[@Hannestv4607]

Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *this is a mistake in the Qur'an!*

[@YGSTAN06]

"I read and forget,,,,😂" broo what's the point of reading text if you dont gain knowledge from it?!

[@AbdelhamidAbdales]

Both people talkijg high level of communication!

[@pillarsofdoom4891]

Gods work done well my brother.

[@SamSam-bt9fn]

1 john 5.7 and the story of the adulterous woman are very famous to even a lay Christian,,, yet this pastor played dumb,,, The trick of the pastors to run away from the clear corruption is to say" I have to look it up "

[@blancojay1698]

You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.

[@muslimboyyy-v4d]

Comment for support the channel

[@kswishh3387]

This guy said the doctrine of the trinity is not in the bible? 🤔

[@mostdope4781]

ALLAHUMMA Baarik Brother May Allah Increase you in knowledge

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@mostdope4781 Ameen Akhi

[@yoursportsnow9729]

He pulled out the Bible with the contradictions marked like Uthman 💪🏾

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@yoursportsnow9729 Jazkallah Khairan Akhi

[@chrisoakey9841]

The hilarious thing is there are more than 20 different textual qurans. Not pronunciation, actual different words etc. And unreliable book😂 maybe Muslims should look at the Quran. 5:30-50 the bible we have is accurate. And we have manuscripts from 1st century to now. No significant changes.

[@yoursportsnow9729]

@@chrisoakey9841 Laughing emojis don't hide your desperation, your wrong. Bart Ehrman an Atheist who has studied the Bible and Quran probably longer than you've been alive says The Quran is the exactly the same as it was passed down from the prophet(saw). You think anyone is going to listen to "chrisoakey" and take you and your laughing emojis seriously?

[@ummulbanaat365]

​@@chrisoakey9841 The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “No house of brick, nor fur, will remain upon the face of the earth but that Allah will cause the message of Islam to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored and the disgraceful will be disgraced.” ALL OF YOU CHRISTIANS WILL SEE ATLEAST ONE MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY BECOME A MUSLIM AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT😂😂😂😂

[@ummulbanaat365]

​@@yoursportsnow9729GREAT RESPONSE BROTHER👍 JAZAKALLAHU KHAIR

[@momomouh115]

بارك الله فيكم

[@Haqqseeker40]

He says Quran in nonsense. They can never not insult. While countless errors in the bible.

[@muslimboyyy-v4d]

SubhanAllah

[@forumef9997]

"I don't know - I need to check and come back to you". - True, you never see or hear a confession like this from a Muslim. This is perhaps the main difference between the two cultures. There isn't a single person who can memorize all the details of the history of one's religion - it is just a matter of admitting it or trying to go around. But yes, the Cristian guy was a bit of a jerk trying to attack Islam in quite an awkward way. However, being upset is human too.

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@forumef9997 The Issue is he never got back to me, Most of them don’t.

[@forumef9997]

@@OneFaithFoundation That's a pity, because throwing at somebody highly detailed historical data in a general ad hoc conversation is surely not the ideal way of having a conversation.

[@noumi1971]

"I AM BEING ATTACKED BY A WASPE"....READY RUN AWAY 😂😂😂😂

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@noumi1971 😄

[@arra5369]

keep going..

[@iqbalm67]

Matthew 21:10 when Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “who is this?” 21:11 The crowds answered “This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee”

[@ahsa4393]

Good discussion

[@moafro6524]

Surah Mary (19:88-91), states: "And they say, 'The Most Merciful has taken a son.' You have done an atrocious thing. The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation." Quran 19:88-91 This passage emphasizes the severity of attributing a son to God, which is a major transgression in Islam. In connection to this, reflect on the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, where the doctrine of the Trinity was formalized. Interestingly, Nicaea was destroyed by a massive earthquake 33 years later(age of Jesus ascension), a divine sign of the profound displeasure with the theological decisions made there, and a sign/warning of the catastrophic consequences of such beliefs

[@herbertjohn2774]

Alhamdulillah learnt alot from this. Would you recommend any books: The two books I have currently are: 1) Jesus, Man, Messenger, Messiah. 2) Misquoting Jesus.

[@gnx71]

I recommend any books by Christian Prince available on Amazon. Seeking Allah finding Jesus, by Nabeel Qureshi. Anything by Norman Geisler, Josh McDowell, Gleason Archer.

[@herbertjohn2774]

@gnx71 Interesting you are recommending me such books. Honestly, if you study the Bible, you will find it has many contradictions, which is not even a controversial point, even the Trinity is not explicitly mentioned as well. There actually was a development of the doctrine upon stydying church history, and so on.

[@gnx71]

@@herbertjohn2774 The Quran says that if the qrn was not from al lah , you would find in it many contradictions. People like sam shamoun have done the hard task for you and compiled a list of over 100 contradictions in the qrn. This is beside the historical and scientific errors in it. Also, Tawheed is not mentioned in the qrn. Andfor a single entity, its funny how al lah keeps referring to itself as We, Us, and Ours. Also al lah seems to pray upon mhmd, to who does al lah pray to? And al lah is called the best of creators. How many others are there? Well we know that Isa created birds from clay, so Isa must be one of the best creators too . And many of the so called contradictions of the Bible have been answered in books like John W Haley, Alleged Discrepancies of the Bible Lastly the Quran affirms the Torah and Injeel, nowhere does the Quran say that they are corrupted.

[@herbertjohn2774]

@@gnx71 Please pick a point and finish it, im not here to make your own argument. Be confident in what you say.

[@gnx71]

@@herbertjohn2774 Ok, I will ignore the fact that you werent confident enough to cite examples of contradictions in the Bible, or how you arrived at the conclusion that God is more than one Person in the Torah. Here are some examples of internal contradictions in the Quran. Who Was the First Muslim? Muhammad [6:14, 163], Moses [7:143], some Egyptians [26:51], or Abraham [2:127-133, 3:67] or Adam, the first man who also received inspiration from Allah [2:37]? Can Allah be seen and did Muhammad see his Lord? Yes [S. 53:1-18, 81:15-29], No [6:102-103, 42:51]. How many angels were talking to Mary? When the Qur'an speaks about the annunciation of the birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary, Sura 3:42,45 speaks about (several) angels while it is only one in Sura 19:17-21. Sheikh Uthman in a recent video raised this as a contradiction in the Gospels, at the resurrection of Jesus' empty tomb, so it works both ways. I could list many more but that should be sufficient.

[@user-mc8fy6sg2z]

As a point of clarification, did the Muslim state that none of the patristic authors adhered to a Trinitarian belief in the first three hundred years?

[@Theyellowbosss]

Yes and he is write. None of them believe Jesus is a trinitarian like you do today.

[@user-mc8fy6sg2z]

@Theyellowbosss Thank you for clarifying. As for your allegation, I would caution against such a broad statement. Third century CE writers who believed the same Trinitarian model as modern Christians are Gregory 'the wonder worker', Dionysius of Rome, Dionysius of Alexandria, and Cyprian of Carthage. Second century Christians who believed in the Trinity are Clement of Alexandria, Athenagoras of Athens, Ignatius of Antioch, Melito of Sardis, and Irenaeus of Lyons. A first century writer would be Papias of Heriopolis. Thus, we have evidence of writers who believed the Trinity as current day Christians. God bless.

[@abdeljaliljouhrani9429]

If you don’t like the ending of Mark, take it out !!! 3:40 This is how they treat their book claiming it’s from God!!

[@Nickpurty]

1)In Quran Jesus made a bird out of clay and breathes life, God also made Adam of clay and breathed life. How Jesus has power like God to breathe life, unlike any other prophets? 2)Your prophet had high respect for Torah. Torah mentions that Abraham went to sacrifice Isaac, but Quran says Abraham went to sacrifice Ishmael. Wasn't Hagar just a maid servant of Abraham and not the rightful mistress of Abraham? 3)How is it that your prophet came under the influence of black magic from a jew, while no prophets in the Bible became Bewitched? Is it befitting for the final prophet sent by God?

[@zarabees2123]

Ignorant Christians are swift to point out that Jesus has the power of God in the Quran because he made a bird out of clay , but does christians ever read the following sentences where it is BOLDY STATED that Jesus did it only by the permission of God. Secondly All Prophets are human beings & they all,tasted death for the exception of Jesus , but he too, will taste death as he was born . Thirdly John the Baptist was a Bible prophet , so why was he murdered ? Was Bible god not powerful enough to save him or he died because he was a human being ?

[@fxorigins6624]

LOL he quote mike licona. he is not a new testament scholar. he is a preacher

[@Twfiq8]

Brother, Jazaka Allahu khayran.. You're not there to challenge people, but to invite them.. And don't tell them, If there are contradictions in the Quran, I will leave Islam, but come with it, because only an ignorant person leaves Islam, and with all confidence there is no contradiction in the Quran because it is the word of God the Lord of the Worlds.

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@Twfiq8 Thanks For the Advice Akhi, Wayikum

[@MahmudLatiff]

Cos it will never happen. When Allah itself afirm there no contradiction.

[@danielanthony8373]

The Quran is full of contradictions and errors What are you talking about ? The Quran talks about crucifixion in the time of Moses in Egypt 700 years before crucifixion was invented and was not practiced in Egypt The Quran talks about chain mail armor in the time of David 500 years before chain mail was invented The story of Jesus breathing life into clay birds and talking in the crib is from fake Gnostic Gospels from the 2nd and 3rd centuries The Quran contains a Jewish bedtime fable for children that uses Biblical names who the Quran authors thought was a genuine story The poetry in the Quran was plagiarized from 4th 5th and 6th century Christian hymns discovered by German Professor Gunther Lulling in 1970 His thesis and subsequent book is called A challenge to Islam for Reformation The unreadable passages in the Quran have been discovered to contain Christian hymns lectionaries homilies and commentaries on Jesus Christ discovered by German Academic Christoph Luxenberg his book is called (who has had to go into hiding because of death threats to him and his family you know because of your Religion of Peace)

[@danielanthony8373]

Muhammad enough an Angel of Darkness and that Darkness still covers the Islamic world blinding Muslims from seeing the Light of Christ

[@danielanthony8373]

If the Quran is the word of God then you would expect to see the Middle East a beacon of Love Compassion Wisdom Mercy Education Scientific Advancement Peace Prosperity Progress Equality and Tolerance instead you see the opposite and Millions of Muslims fleeing to the West so they would rather be where the Laws values and beliefs are based on the Bible Jesus the Church and Secular Liberalism rather than the Quran the Hadiths and Muhammad Your Religion is from Medieval times and the rest of the world has left you behind We are laughing at you We are disappointed in you We are worried about you We feel sorry for you Christianity is about Love Compassion Wisdom and Forgiveness Islam is about Power Domination Will and Violence and in the end Islam will fall it's crumbling right now because Love will conquer all ❤🙏✝️🙏❤️

[@arakibhosen434]

ALHAMDULILLAH ❤️ JAJAKALLA KHIRAN ❤️🙂❤️

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@arakibhosen434 Waiykum

[@theoinsightful]

Good work bluring women shows that you are not here for money

[@Resepdrea12]

Smart Muslim

[@orthodoxmuslim]

The brother is talking about the early church fathers while the pastor is referring to Mike Licona, the punching bag of Bart Ehrman hahaha

[@chrisoakey9841]

The brother is lying his ass off. These stories by Muslims about the early church miss a few small things. Reality and evidence being the start. The bible was collated by Constantine's command, but the books already existed. Just like the Torah and Septuagint. He probably needs to reread John as it very much defines Jesus as with God and god in the beginning.

[@orthodoxmuslim]

@@chrisoakey9841 there were hundreds of books/letters floating around that time, who gave Constantine authority to choose which letters/books to be considered as the word of God? Nonsense christian argument ✌️

[@chrisoakey9841]

@@orthodoxmuslim constantine didnt choose the books. he got the church leaders to choose the books the criteria they chose for the NT was direct link to Jesus. like paul on the road to amaius, luke interviewing witnesses matthew the disciple, peter the disciple, john the disciple, and mark a friend. so that does not deny or accept other gospels, but what it says is that the ones were chosen for their perceived accuracy. something that allah says is true in sura 5:30ish. if they are wrong, for some reason they have been accepted as correct and inkeeping with the previous scripture for 2000 years. God might have a hand in that.

[@orthodoxmuslim]

@@chrisoakey9841 dude, you're born just yesterday and you're living in a delusion. The decision of what books/letters would be included in the canon was done after the debate whether Jesus is equal to the father, and later, the holy spirit is included, hence, the decision as to which books/letter will be included are those that somehow agree with the approved christian doctrine of Constantine. Jesus and his disciples were poor and uneducated Aramaic-speaking Galileans yet the new testament canon are all in koine Greek. Those names you mentioned are all delusions - the earliest gospels were anonymous, they were only given names later by some church fathers 🙀

[@Theyellowbosss]

@@chrisoakey9841Neither the Torah nor the septuagenarian believed God was three in one. The early church fathers believed in subordination trinity. Christians now believe in equality trinity. Not the same.

[@alamskmustafin4544]

Alhamdulillah 🇮🇳 ❤

[@think-islam-channel]

Who cares? Let them continue to insist on the trinity if they want. Their loss. Just deliver the message. They'll answer to God...

[@MahmudLatiff]

Word of god, can be taken out. Put it in by human. But no contracdiction. Right! Dream on. Only gullible bite.

[@LaminGassama-gg7wl]

What's the name of this brother? Anyone know am new to this channel

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@LaminGassama-gg7wl My name is Hasan Akhi

[@frankgilbert361]

Lol this pastor look more like club owner

[@YGSTAN06]

I wonder if being a pastor is just a title... if the church show this discussion to the Christians, I wonder if they would listen to him ever again. You might think a pastor has more knowledge about their faith than a outsider😂. Truly dumbfounding.

[@iqbalm67]

Modern day Bible scholars? I listen to Bart Erhman. Bart says a lot of what Deedat said 50 years ago

[@nathanielrory4273]

It appears to that person that the sun is setting in murky water and the messenger believe it to be so ,in a Hadith he’s quoted as telling another that this is the case.What is the purpose of the creator relaying such nonsense for what reason waste of words with no purpose and this would have been believed to be truth for centuries if someone were to say otherwise it would have been blasphemy to deny the Quran they would have been put to death so don’t dismiss it as just a nonsense statement for no reason

[@Bemark100]

You have to understand John 17. That Father and I are 1. Jesus desire that the church be 1 in them , not as them, not God but unified like them . Here in John Jesus is stating his deity . He is the HEAD of the church his body. He is God , yes, a man on the earth, but now he say he's 1 with the Father. His equal. He is saying he is God

[@osuclassof88]

The father is greater than I, the father is greater than all ..... Jesus. I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one ........Jesus.

[@OK75]

As always they say YOU dont understand something about it... and you are making this verse more importsnt than it is... if i offer you water with just a drop of waste water would you drink it? Theres no opinion needed if it just tastes bad for me or good for you... you just dont drink it.

[@badonlikoy5571]

We Christians believed in One God that exist in three Divine Essence, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. They are one in essence.

[@Real_truthful_Raja]

Plz remember this life is nothing but test😢 also recognising your true creator before death maybe allah forbid me but if you endup like that you will be in hell may allah mercy on you

[@badonlikoy5571]

Jesus is the first who was "with" God in the beginning before the creation of the world (read John 17 :5, John 17 :24 & John 1:2) and the last who came to the world to testify to the truth (John 18 :37). This is why Jesus said, I Am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end (Revelation 22:13). The LORD said, I Am He. I Am the first and I Am the last (Isaiah 48 :12). Jesus said very truly I tell you, surely you would die in your sins if you don't believe that I Am He (John 8 :24). So no other prophets comes after Our Lord Jesus Christ. This is why Jesus warned the people to be careful of false prophet to come to deceive many (Matthew 24:4-5). I am a Protestant Christian. And I don't believe any books other than the Bible. Jesus said that the ONLY true God is the Father (Abba) and "Jesus Christ", whom you have sent (John 17 :3). So no other God worthy to worship other than called the Father (Abba), In The Name of Jesus. Because Jesus said, whatever you ask the Father anything IN MY NAME, The Father will give you (read John 14:13-14, John 15 :16 & Ephesians 5 :20). That is why do not worship to any other God other than called the Father.

[@ZeroCelsius777]

John 20:17...YHWH has a YHWH 🤔😲

[@Real_truthful_Raja]

@@badonlikoy5571 yes even i have 32 teeth but in one essence mouth 🤣🤣

[@JILGM]

​@@ZeroCelsius777Gods ways is better than your ways, Christians with Holy Spirit understands scripture better than yours

[@Bemark100]

You said Jesus didn't commit any major sins. Really . Would a major sin be .I AM

[@mohamedbinishaq3169]

And to that we say, we don’t believe in the Bible.

[@HS-l5k]

Pastors know that there is no true faith but Islam, They still don’t accept the truth because they still want to sweep peoples money. Churches earning good from Donations.

[@gnx71]

I posted many replies on several videos refuting this abdul's claims on John 7:51 and 1 John but he deleted them. Ask yourself why would this content creator delete answers to his deceptive dawah tactics? Why cant your religion stand scrutiny when I posted several contradictions in the Quran which the content creator said if I could find one that he will renounce islam? So what did the content creator do? He deleted my comment. so why does this abdul censor christians who post answers to his challenges in his videos that have been answered many times over 2,000 years.?

[@HS-l5k]

@@gnx71 you guys are dirty minded, don’t want to accept what makes since and just stick to nonsense human made book and still even don’t care what the book says. EX: ur babla says don’t eat pork but you do, It says ladies need to cover heads but u don’t.

[@TheFireman2585]

why do all muslims always approach the Bible as corrupt without real justificiation? the same arguments for contradictions in the bible also exist in the quran eg the sun setting in a murky pool....anyway...but i would like to hear agruments using the actual verses and their translation and not "church fathers"

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@TheFireman2585 Did you even watch the video? I gave evidence from the Bible itself. I also refuted the very claim of “sun setting in a murky pool” he brought the same thing up. It’s almost like you guys are taught these as a script, watch the full video before making arguments.

[@myxos]

He addresses this is 13:45 in the video. Are you that simple?

[@blancojay1698]

@@OneFaithFoundation You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.

[@think-islam-channel]

False Equivalence Fallacy To be perfectly honest, the Bible is a train wreck compared to the Qur'an. But if you, in your ignorance, disagree, then it's your loss.

[@vincentwitt7919]

Find any Contradiction in the Quran and i will get Baptized

[@hwd7]

Hasan said that he will renounce islam if we could find one contradiction. Well, here you go Hasan. Internal Contradictions of The Quran: Who suffers loss if Muhammad was wrong? Sura 34:50 commands Muhammad to say, "If I go astray, I go astray only to my own loss," which is a severe factual error in the Qur'an as well as contradicting the teaching of the Qur'an in a number of other verses. Allah, Adam, and the Angels. There are a great number of problems and inconsistencies between the several accounts of Adam's creation, Allah's command to prostrate before Adam, Satans refusal, etc. Who Was the First Muslim? Muhammad [6:14, 163], Moses [7:143], some Egyptians [26:51], or Abraham [2:127-133, 3:67] or Adam, the first man who also received inspiration from Allah [2:37]? Can Allah be seen and did Muhammad see his Lord? Yes [S. 53:1-18, 81:15-29], No [6:102-103, 42:51]. Please upload the video of you renouncing al lah and the quran and mhmd as fake. Since I am a Person of the Book, the Quran says to ask me if the Quran is true. as a person of the book I declare that mhmd is afake prft, al lah is a false g-d, and the qrn is not gods word. Amen.

[@fortunesproverbs]

Already in the beginning you're throwing stuff out of bounds. The early date of P52 helps to confirm that the Gospel of John was in circulation in the early 2nd century. it's not the earliest dating of the new testament. Everything is from the first century, it was all included as a Bible in the late 300 A.D. and we know this because Christian faith precedes that very manuscript

[@Filistiin1]

" Everything is from the 1st century " 2) what or where is your evidence? Any carbon dated manuscripts from the 1st century? Hmm? No? So where is your Evidence that " everything is from the 1st century " ????????????????????????????? Plus: P52 is a FRAGMENT the SIZE of a CREDIT CARD. So how do you deduce from that, That the credit CARD size Fragment was part of a Collection of Books ( The 27 Books of the New Testament )?? Answer: You Can Not Simple Unless you are content with being a Blind Follower with a Cognitive Dissonance

[@shanefrance5071]

I'm just curious about the Koran what makes it the word of God?

[@sethsuleiman4419]

1. It says so, repeated many times in the quran. 2. It is flawless; contains no errors nor contradictions. BTW Quran is guidance from god to mankind and thus, it is authored by god or word of god. That guidance is revealed in a piecemeal basis over 23 years (some 6600 verses; ie. averaging 1 verse per day).

[@think-islam-channel]

Proof of the Qur'an The Quran is a divine book that is impossible for humans to have produced. It has many easily verifiable superlative features. The sum probability of having these features in one phenomenon leads to an extremely small probability. There are many features. These have to be verifiable superlative and unusual features. 1. The greatest work of literature in a language. If anyone wants to contest this claim I'll simplify this for the sake of argument and say it is at least one of the greatest works in the Arabic language. 2. Memorisable from front to back. Christians try hard but can't do it. Even though they make it easier for themselves but ignoring what they think is the original Bible, and use the English translation instead (look up Bible Bee) 3. Mathematical symmetries. There are tonnes of these eg the Qur'an checksum miracle the fact that words like day appear 365 times, midmost is a word in the middle verse of chapter 2, the symmetries of 19, and hundreds of other examples I can detail. 4. Preservation. Massive topic. The Quran, in terms of the original skeletal text (without vowel points as it was originally) is perfectly preserved. The preservation method is itself spectacular. The Quran was preserved primarily by memorisation. The prophet had the verses recited to him by the angel Gabriel and he memorised those verses. He would then got to his companions and scribes and get them to make a written record and get them to memorise those verses. He would also specify where those verses would go in the Quran. The scribes would write on bones, stones and palm branches. This proves that normal writing materials were rare. Those that memorised it would pass out on to others. This process continues today. The Quran is memorised perfectly by millions. It's an amazing phenomenon. 5. One hit wonder. No earlier works? A literary masterpiece from the get go? How? In a desert with no access to paper! 5. The amazing jigsaw. This is very interesting. The Quran was not revealed in a linear manner from start to finish. It was totally random with chapters and parts of chapters revealed at different times and places over 23 years. Verses would often be revealed referring to many things that happened at that time. Yet it all for together perfectly at the end. How do you create something over 23 years with random parts relating to events in those 23 years then these all fitting together perfectly at the end? One additional point here: Imagine if he died before completing it? That would have destroyed the whole reliability of it. He died on the year it was completed. Coincidence? 6. Specific prophecies There are a few prophecies eg one about a specific war with the Romans. It talks about the Romans being defeated but predicts they will be victorious in 3-9 years (there is a specific word for that period of time). The verse also mentions where the defeat would take place : it says in the LOWEST part of the earth. This happened as predicted in the RED SEA which with modern knowledge, we now know to be the LOWEST POINT ON EARTH ! That's an amazing miraculous fact. 7. Scientific references to things impossible for a random person in the 7th century desert to know: The Quran makes allusions to: big bang, expanding universe, mountains have roots, non mixing of waters with different salinity, embryological stages etc. Those statements do not make sense in the context of 7th century Arabia which was very undeveloped as a civilisation. Not by someone who wasn't educated. We have lots of his sayings recorded which prove he was not educated. It was a harsh desert life. This was not a developed civilisation. 8. a masterpiece by someone who was illiterate. How do you create a masterpiece in a jigsaw pattern at a time with no paper, or computers? How do you track it all? How do you track all those mathematical symmetries? Especially when you are illiterate. 9. Inimitability The Quran makes the challenge for people to bring something like it. If that challenge was met, we would have known that by now. The other work would have been world famous and championed by Christians and atheists everywhere. It would have been known by every critic of Islam and every online keyboard warrior . It would be used in debates against Muslims as it would be the biggest argument against Islam and one that would cause huge numbers of people to leave Islam. Why would I or others want to follow a restrictive religion if it was demonstrably false? 1400 years. Still no contender. The best we have are silly offerings which just copy the quran but change key words in the sentence. Eg if you challenge me to write something equivalent to Shakespeare and I write 'To read or not to read, that is the conundrum'. Does that make me as skilled and original as Shakespeare? It's just a cheap copy of a clever line without any originality. Those who try to meet the challenge being silliness like that. The Quran invented a new style of literature. There was poetry and prose before that. It invented a new powerful mix of the two. It used words in multiple new ways and invented new extension of words that were ground breaking yet perfectly understandable. Arabs were masters of poetry at the time. It's the only thing they had. Imagine living a harsh existence as a nomad through the desert. What hobbies or art could you possibly develop: poetry was the most natural. Competitions were held annually. Great poets were highly regarded. At the age of 40 the prophet brings something that totally surpasses everything that came before. 10. Beautiful recitation It's a sound that moves people. Look at the millions of views various recitation videos get on KZbin. And this recitation is inherent to the Quran and wasn't invented later. 11. Maintaining consistency Artists evolve over time. Their style changes and matures. The Quran doesn't show that. The first chapter revealed was chapter 96. Many surahs are long and different parts revealed in different times. Yet it all fits together. You don't see an early style and later style in terms of literary skill. Summary: the cumulative probability. There are many more features. So we have to consider that some random human, who couldn't read or write, brought a book that blew away the excellent poetry of the time (that was the one of the few things the Bedouin Arabs were skilled at) and it just happened to have this multitude of amazing features? All the while this was produced in a stage of life where he had a tumultuous 23 years which would not have been conducive to concentrating on such are masterpiece: wars, exile into the desert with starvation, personally taking part in multiple battles, multiple marriages, setting up an entirely new city and state etc. Which other artist produced 1 masterpiece over a long period like that whilst going through tumultuous changes. Each of those factors above are low probability phenomena. The cumulative probability of all of those existing in one book is something like 1 in 10^60 as a very rough probability. The proof for the quran is based on verifiable facts anyone can check for themselves.

[@nathanielrory4273]

No contradiction but it has verses saying why did the messenger prohibit himself from having sexual relations with his servants when the creator said it’s ok for him this is a verse in the guidance for all mankind for ever to know that the creator wants us to know that the messenger may have relationships with his servants when ever he wants it’s necessary for all Muslims throughout all history to recite this for what. I can only think of one lesson that would be for all to know that the creator want his servants to fulfill their desires and that all your sexual desires will be allowed for all males to enjoy as having 70 virgins in heaven although this contradicts yeshua words that yea shall be like unto angels in heaven neither marrying or be given into marriage and his other words that if you look upon a woman your guilty of adultery when the benefits of the messenger is that if his gaze falls upon a married woman her husband must divorce her so he (the messenger)can nika with her when Yeshua said that if you divorce your wife for any reason other that adultery your in sin, contrary to any of Yeshua teachings in any way .

[@annettebryant5188]

Christian Prince can explain

[@think-islam-channel]

😂😂😂

[@omaryunes1769]

@@annettebryant5188 He can’t even explain the Trinity lol… it’s a mystery 😂

[@LifeLyne2099]

First lets correct a few things. All of pauld letters date to the 1st century. All these letters reference the gospel of jesus. Paul even meets the apostles and they agree with him. First, muslims cant argue time matters in regards to the historicity of an account. Bc 600> 100. Second, p52, covers john 18:33. Which is in the modern Bibles. The kjv has it closes to its greek dialects. Even the ASV has it. So corruption isnt present. 3/ noticed i said historicity, nothing about the quaran being the spoken word. Were dealing with history. 4/ in short the muslim lied. John isnt the ealriest NT manuscript. The verse is similar. I doubt he even read it. Pauls letters all reference the written gospels and are dated well before the manuscript. How did he know about Matthew texts? If Mathew was written then how could it be written before the letters. Even the most pessimistic scholars date Mathew the first gospel to 80-90Ad. 5/First century church Father mention the gospels. John the apostle tutored papias. Who starts his tutorship in 100ad. Way before the Muslim attempting to date the gospel to 150ad. 6/ the attempted argument from silence isnt historical. Early papyrus and animal skins wore down very easy. This there are very few 1st century texts. Trying to say the earliest manuscript is the first writing of john, is idiotic for reason above. But also given that the provided manuscript, takes place in the middle of the book! You wouldn't say chapter 18 comes before 1 would you? Saying well the orgins of the gospels are in 120ad bc its earliest weve found, is an argument from silence, and is dumb bc paper breaks down, and we have earlier records that verify the Gospels existing before(c above reasons.) 7/ i hope you enjoyed my ted talk. Without lies.

[@LifeLyne2099]

Also the Greek dialect in the manuscripts ended at early 1st century. In favor of new vocabulary.

[@LifeLyne2099]

@OneFaithFoundation. Peep your lies being exposed.

[@silkydude]

Where is the gospel of Jesus? Is it the new testament? Was Jesus preaching his own biography? Was it in Greek?

[@masana_]

What nonsense is he talking about ? you should have asked him what he thinks about the unverse expanding from one point.

[@baalbuster9294]

False . There are manuscripts that predate Muhammad that prove what our Scripture taught then, they still teach today . Secondly, the Scriptures teach Jesus WAS crucified and historian’s and scholars confirm Jesus WAS crucified, proving Muhammad is a false prophet because the Quran denies the Scriptural and historical FACT of the crucifixion of Jesus (Sura 4:157).

[@drissf393]

From when are the earliest complete manuscript of the new testament?!

[@baalbuster9294]

@@drissf393 we have manuscripts from 3-4th century which confirm what our Scriptures taught then, they teach today. Meaning the same Scriptures during the time of Muhammad, we still have . For example, the Codex Sinaticus contains our entire New Testament and was written in the 4th century. It confirms what our Scriptures teach today.

[@drissf393]

@@baalbuster9294 that means more than 3 centuries after Jesus peace and blessings be upon him and wrote by anonymous authors. How can you confirm that it was the original teachings of Jesus peace and blessings be upon him?!

[@baalbuster9294]

@@drissf393 your Quran affirms the Scriptures the disciples of Jesus had with them , in their hands . We have abundant manuscripts, the Codex Sinaticus for example, which predates Muhammad, proving what our Scriptures taught then, they teach today . Secondly, it amazes me how Muslims reject the Scriptures BUT are quick to quote abs accept them without reservation, when they claim they teach the coming of Muhammad or Islamic teachings . Thirdly, you reject the writings of those that were WITH Jesus but accept the words of a man who wasn’t even born until HUNDREDS of years later. Ask any historian and they will tell you the best forms of historical evidence are those written CLOSER to the times of the events and even better , written by those that were eyewitnesses. Our Scriptures have both. The Quran lacks both.

[@drissf393]

@@baalbuster9294 where the Quran affirms the scriptures the disciples of Jesus peace and blessings be upon him had with them?! In fact he affirms that they were currupted... Secondly, the earliest complete manuscript of the new testament is dated to the fourth century by anonymous authors. How do you claim that it is close to the time of Jesus peace and blessings be upon him and also written by eyewitnesses?!

[@roelageas2047]

Everything point to Jesus but never follow Jesus action of praying to his God but, rather follow the pauline teaching of trinitarian doctrine which is totally polar opposite from Jesus, see how he bring the name of Jesus as if Jesus endorse trinitarian doctrine..

[@johnnk3256]

Why not debate actual subject matter experts? Like Christian Prince or Shamoun? Afraid that you'll get your assess kicked??? 😂😂😂 Instead, you argue with people who know nothing about I$lam, with an idea of Jesus that was written 600 years after his life and death and resurrection. Kinda sus... Good luck with that... 😂😂😂

[@ep171]

Justin Martyr, one of the greatest church fathers, is an obvious polytheist: And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter.

[@NoeticMuse]

This pastor is not very well read

[@harrismohammad5009]

Sorry to say, typical Paul follower. Talking based of unreliable sources.

[@shahiddullahbinalias3728]

So bible not words of god

[@James-t9h4d]

You all know, you are basing your arguments on something that cannot be proven unless you believe the source material to begin with. I see a couple of losers

[@monkeypolice3048]

Astuafrillah. I think I know why we are always conflicting one another when discussing the Christians. We keep saying the Bible is corrupted. We should say the Bible is changed throughout the history. I hope the brothers realize this. The word corrupt is too heavy.

[@sethsuleiman4419]

Corrupted book means texts or words (a). added or taken out and (b) changed. And/or, it contains errors or contradictions.

[@HMJKS2000]

It’s not that it’s just been changed…it’s been deliberately changed and misconstrued to fit the narrative of those who want to show something else…that is pure corruption. No need to sugar coat the facts

[@scorpionsavage5660]

It’s corrupted don’t sugar coat shit bruh! that’s why i left it 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@mcegypt20]

Our manuscripts don’t even have scribal errors

[@estellagillett]

What kind of pastor are u son try go home and reflect on ur religion

[@GodlovingGodfearing]

I guarantee this muslim never read the bible but he decide what the chapters means with one verse he reas

[@azwan12]

Why don't you go and debate him then?

[@GodlovingGodfearing]

@azwan12 because he's liar.. just like the the false prophet muhammad

[@GodlovingGodfearing]

@@azwan12 because I don't live there

[@Eddiea2024]

​@GodlovingGodfearing Go ahead then, lets debate.

[@GodlovingGodfearing]

@@Eddiea2024 did allah ever speak to muhammed

[@MahayarMuttaqin-fn9ko]

The holy spirit inspired people to write contradictions in the bible. Lol

[@lotilavaka6489]

It heaps of contractions in the Quran stoping lying Muslim and don't twist the Bible

[@omarhourani8424]

What you got?

[@mutiara75]

We have been waiting for 14 centuries for those contradictions. No one has produced them so far.

[@myxos]

Citr your sources.

[@Eddiea2024]

Provide the contradictions in the Quran. Back up your claim.

[@blancojay1698]

@@mutiara75 You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.

[@Real_truthful_Raja]

I am you new subscriber may allah bless you ❤❤

[@OneFaithFoundation]

@@Real_truthful_Raja Waikyum

[@Walter-vk1jz]

Without lies Islam dies.

[@myxos]

Ok bud

[@Eddiea2024]

Give me one thing from the Quran that is wrong, we can debate the bible vs Quran.

[@blancojay1698]

@@Eddiea2024 You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.

[@edwinbartolome7529]

The Standard Narrative in the quran has Holes

[@mutiara75]

Sure. 😂

[@edwinbartolome7529]

@@mutiara75 The Standard Narrative in the quran has Holes

[@myxos]

Evidence? Source? Anyone can make claims. Cite your proof.

[@edwinbartolome7529]

@@myxos yes u want he is a well-known great schooler remarkable person but u disagree or dislike the person all sorts of accusations See ur Taqiya Without Taqiya Islam dies

[@Eddiea2024]

Provide one contradiction from the Quran, we're waiting.

[@arsenictastesprettygood9844]

he so easily said "take what you don't like out of the bible", and believes that its not corrupt. typical 3 in 1 shampoo god believer.

[@blancojay1698]

You’re reading one qirat ,hafs edition . You have mistakes and contradictions in the hafs version q.2:140 and warsh version q.2:140, there on ONE Quran . In the hafs version and Khalaf version q37:13 one says “but you wonder” and another says “but I wonder” , and majority of your qurans where burnt , and during revelation Mohammed did not have one sent down he had seven versions sent down the other 6 was burnt , and it was not ordained by Mohammed , it was ordained by uthman who came 20 years after Mohammed died. Imagine if Paul had 7 different bibles and burnt 6 of them and kept one ., bin más’Ud master reciter of the Quran had a DIFFERENT Quran and DID NOT want to give it up to be destroyed ask your self why.