Christopher Lee SCHOOLS Peter Jackson on realistic death sounds

[@Andrewsatkowski]

Best story ever. Jackson figured out this was not the time and place to challenge a retired 007.

[@user-mistereye]

Retired 007 VILLAIN, more like

[@RMJerich0]

yes

[@tylerpuszczewicz2535]

Lee didn't played Bond. He played Francisco Scaramanga, the main villain in The Man with the Golden Gun.

[@SammEater]

@@tylerpuszczewicz2535 I think he meant the fact Ian Fleming based James Bond on a few men which includes Christopher Lee.

[@Sly88Frye]

The British spy organization is called MI6. Not 007

[@Abhay0505]

I'd never doubt Christopher Lee, since he witnessed the last gulliotine in history.

[@PeterTeal77]

the latest* guillotine

[@lukethepotatoking]

He also hunted Nazis

[@drd675]

@@lukethepotatoking And commies. Joined the Finnish during the Winter War

[@ninakrishnamurthy6674]

Seriously, the man’s Wikipedia page reads like a comic book!

[@thefiresworddragon927]

Well, maybe not "the" last, but the "last one" I know of was made to cut random things in slow motion for KZbin cents so they could buy a pack of beer.

[@qnteban]

"you've ever seen a man perish, Peter? I have"

[@jchea1764]

"you've ever made a man perish, Peter? I have"

[@TimmyJay02]

"That's not how a man sounds when you take his life away Peter. "This" is what it sounds like when you take his life away."

[@boxbox0000]

"Do you want to know what it's like to have your breath taken away, Peter?"

[@raggedclawstarcraft6562]

@@TimmyJay02 \*proceeds to stab Peter in the back\*

[@mikeg4691]

Hey Peter, remember the time

[@Btester2]

Im convinced Christopher Lee was the main character in real life.

[@dolphingoreeaccount7395]

Ye This chaos is the setup for the next game

[@cymikgaming1266]

he had seen alot

[@PrincipeCharro]

Dude was incredible, one can only do so much in one life

[@snaifhassnan6348]

501

[@GBS4893]

We're just the long epilogue shot when everything collapses in a dystopic way after his death

[@obi-juantacobi8552]

Sir Christopher Lee really was the most interesting man in the world. Directly descended from Charlemagne and directly related to Lighthorse Henry Lee, witnessed the last public execution in France, lived among "exiled princely families," served in WWII, survived malaria 6 times in one year, tracked down Nazi war criminals, actually MET Tolkien, was a wartime spy, was a founding member of the "Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare." and hiked Mt. Vesuvius THREE DAYS before it erupted (1944 obviously). Most of this happened BEFORE his acting career. Recieved a knighthood Released a heavy metal album in his 80's Holds a Guinness world record Was engaged to a royal's daughter for a while Was a world champion fencer (hence the portrayal of Count Dooku as a fencer) Was a master opera singer Spoke 6 languages fluently and was conversational in 2 more.

[@sammyf0x]

I already know i can't never get even 1 thing in that list.

[@obi-juantacobi8552]

@@sammyf0x same, same

[@planescaped]

@@sammyf0x I dunno... ya might invent a time machine and hike Vesuvius before him.

[@Cklert]

​@sammyf0x Yes you can. Almost everyone with European blood is a direct descendant of Charlemagne.

[@adb888]

@@Cklert ...or Genghis Khan apparently.

[@hazbaska1]

I actually didn’t know they added the spinning wheel death scene after that because they wanted more of a death lol

[@mevb]

And it's a symbolism of Saruman landing on the spike of the wheel, like he dies from the very thing he created.

[@feroxfreak209]

Lee: What about my deathscene? PJ: You already had it. Lee: I had one yes...

[@mevb]

@hazbaska1 It also was done as a prank to Christopher Lee as he played Count Dracula in Hammer's Dracula, as Peter Jackson got the chance to put a stake through his heart like his character does in that movie. George Lucas pulled a similar prank during the shooting of Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones, where he had his guys put fangs on a Yoda dummy, which was used for lightning reference during the Yoda vs Count Dooku duel. Lucas even jokingly said to Lee that he could "do your business on his [Yoda's] neck" meaning biting him to suck his blood like Dracula did, which he got the point, saying "I have no comment on that, George." to which Lucas laughed at.

[@steffenbendel6031]

@@feroxfreak209 But to be fair, as a Maiar, he only loses his form and might come back some day.

[@boomstick7506]

​@steffenbendel6031 didn't he get punished by being forced to be a mortal man, and he tried to start an oppresive tobacco plantation in the Shire? Edit: The Shire militia led by the remaining hobbits drove him off.

[@dalewalford2630]

The fact that he knew what sound a person makes when they get stabbed in the back gives you a scary glimpse into what he witnessed during WWII. Nobody could've acted the part of Saruman better. That rich deep voice penetrates your very soul. Also, these snippets are losing me so much time but so worth it!

[@TheQueenofMaggots]

Yeah “witnessed” he was stabbing nazis all day

[@TheAccursedEntity]

"Witnessed" 👀

[@SSC0002]

​@@TheAccursedEntityah yes, "witnessed", most definitely 👀

[@pov7853]

​@@SSC0002 I don't think Christopher Lee was the one who witnessed a man being stabbed in the back, it think it was a first hand experience, He was a soldier in ww2 is all I'm saying

[@theylivewesleep.5139]

Le soldier le killed people Oh my

[@pov7853]

0:36 - if Christopher Lee said that to me, I wouldn't know if he was asking a question or threatening me

[@ddenozor]

because he was alive and serving elven secret service during the war with sauron.

[@CallenderMan]

“Would you like to find out?”

[@gipadonimus]

"So they devised another ending for me" Then his ragdoll body just flopping down to be impaled lmao 😂

[@v4v819]

Did you know Chistopher Lee is the only cast and crew member to have met J R Tolkien... He also met Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath a band Chris was a big fan of despite Lee's age. of over 80! Christopher Lee proves, that it's never too late to be come a metalhead! What a mega legend!

[@joedaiskiwagas6780]

and was also the basis for James bond . And the creator of James bond is his cousin

[@christianmoya5268]

It would have been awesome if Christopher Lee had got to play the role of James Bond. He would have been playing himself. What a loss. Dang!

[@SuperCosty2010]

@@christianmoya5268 He played the Bond villain Scaramanga in The Man With The Golden Gun

[@Vikingr4Jesus5919]

I love small behind-the-scenes details like these. They give so much more...what's the word? Soul? Depth? Meaning? Yea, meaning behind every part of the whole story and movie making. I remember seeing that scene for the first time and his gasp of being stabbed was so natural that I didn't think too much into it. But now I realize just how superb it is to, well, "act naturally" in the most basic use of the word.

[@rellman85]

“Texture,” or “nuance,” perhaps? Though, honestly, “soul,” “depth,” and “meaning” are absolutely true, too.

[@gavinlamp5426]

"Did you stab someone before, Mr Lee?" Lee: "I did slice off this cocky guy's arm once and pushed him away."

[@icealive1201]

Is it possible to learn this power?

[@SgtScorpious]

Not from a wizard..

[@contrapasso1539]

Have you ever heard the story of Dark Sauron the Horrible?

[@naterksmr]

"So anyways, in this movie, the third chronological episode, in the first half of the movie, you're going to get killed by an emotionally unstable man with long dark hair, who's much younger than you. I know it sounds bad, but what are the odds you'll ever have that exact same thing happen to another one of your characters, right?"

[@Killjoy45]

PJ: Okay Chris, I want you to make kinda scream when you get stabbed. Sir Christopher Lee: *Have you ever killed a man, Peter?*

[@iOnlySignIn]

"Do you know how a Wizard talks with a crowd of flying black birds who are acting as his spies? Because I do." - Sir Christopher Frank Carandini Lee CBE CStJ, probably.

[@Slam_duncan03]

R.i.p the late great sir Christopher Lee 😢(🌹1922-2015🕊️)

[@bighand1530]

He will be missed

[@Slam_duncan03]

@@bighand1530 he would’ve been 102 years old right now. 😢😭

[@bighand1530]

@@Slam_duncan03 True.

[@macklee6837]

"It's not: AHHHHHHH!" 🤣🤣

[@TimmyJay02]

People think in real life people will do the "Wilhelm scream."

[@offworlder1]

He is right and when he did his service for country he gained a lot of knowledge that helped him in acting to make violence and death more realistic, not many go from elite special forces into elite iconic actor. He lived a long time and it was a very full life that will be remembered for decades due to making such a big impact in multiple careers.

[@nhmooytis7058]

He was a fine man and terrific actor.

[@Balinux756]

*terrifying

[@DANBAN119]

"You ever kill a man Peter? yeah that's what I thought." -Christopher Lee at some point during production.

[@somehans]

Amazing movie, cast & watching all these behind the scenes just makes me love them even more!

[@jhonzeimerman5650]

"Do you know how a stabbed person sounds like? Cause I do. I stabbed them myself"

[@D.Rivera-bh6xc]

Thank you for the video.

[@Björnvar]

“So they devised another ending to me” *SPLAT* 😂

[@KnightsOfCamelore]

0:15 Wait he actually MET Tolkien?! 🤯

[@Proxinem]

Tolkien himself said Lee could play Gandalf if a movie was going to be made. Peter Jackson and the casting directors thought he'd make a better Saruman though. He does look quite like how I envisioned Saruman from the books.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

Considering the comments Lee made about Jackson's directing in other scenes, demanding numerous reshoots for specific lines to be said specific ways, I have a feeling that Lee saying he knew exactly how people sounded when they were stabbed to death from behind scared Jackson into doing just the one take.

[@nathanbeer3338]

Fun fact: Saruman actually dies very near the end of the trilogy in Hobbiton after trying to take control over the village and going by the name of Sharkey.

[@kachoman6225]

SPOILER ALERT: He dies stabbed just not at Orthanc but at Bilbo's (later Frodo's) home at Hobbiton.

[@nathanbeer3338]

@@kachoman6225 Forgot about Saruman being in Bilbo's home, has been a long time since I've read LotR.

[@apm77]

The single most unrealistic scene in the entire trilogy is the bit where Frodo grips tightly enough to support his body weight using a hand that has just had a finger bitten off. Next to that, a back-stabbed scream would be nothing. (As would actual magic and stuff.)

[@geertminderhoud2641]

could be adrenaline? But yes very unlikely!

[@kobold7466]

adrenaline and a NEED to live can give someone incredible strength

[@theresnothinghere1745]

Also helps he's a hobbit and likely has a better strength to weight ratio compared to an average person.

[@agx8447]

Unlikely, but he is child sized and holding onto rock which has pretty good grip for the most part. I don’t think it’s completely implausible, especially with the batshit insane amount of adrenaline that would be coursing through your body in that situation.

[@KingLich451]

Magic.

[@Althar9809]

Anything this man says, especially for a non-native English speaker like me, it sounds so literate and poetic (maybe not the right words but still) He could be saying gibberish and it would still sound very educated and prestigious.

[@adhx7506]

"Have you ever stabbed a man, Peter?"

[@azuredragonofnether5433]

Also Christopher: "I sure have."

[@CGS夔SHADOW]

Funny that he played two characters who were originally good, very powerful and wise and who were corrupted by evil.

[@carlhicksjr8401]

Many people didn't know that Christopher Lee also collected special operations unit patches [and yes, Mr. Lee has a prominent seat at the table on top of Mt. Badass - his wiki entry only glosses over his activities]. One of the wonderful things about him was always took care to pronounce the unit's name properly in its proper language. GSG-9 was not pronounced in English, but German 'Geh Ess Geh Neun'. There is a distinct difference between the sound of 'neun' or 'nine' and 'nein' or 'no'. MANY English speakers attempting German trip up on that. But Sir Christopher never did.

[@countryboy1635]

He’s also one of the inspirations for James Bond

[@Dante02d12]

The pronunciation thing seems trivial, but combining it with the other comment explaining all his other deeds, it feels like the perfect cherry on top of the cake xD!

[@cicalinarrot]

*Fun fact:* Kevin Spacey also read American Beauty's script and went to the director to explain how seducing someone underage actually works in real life.

[@Cenot4ph]

I recall he was acquitted, so this joke doesn't really work does it

[@erebus79]

@@Cenot4ph I recall witnesses mysteriously dying.

[@akirosakuragi9279]

@@erebus79 He might be a creep but he's one hell of an actor)

[@Quisshy]

He legit looks like hes in his 50’s, it’s insane to me how old he actually was, and how much he has experienced.

[@Maximillian200HP]

Christopher Lee was a gem of an actor always enjoyed him in whatever role or movie I saw him in even if the movie itself was bad.

[@bryanferratt6598]

Christopher Lee would've been a perfect addition to the live action "Sonic the Hedgehog" movies 🎥 👌 😊.

[@ninakrishnamurthy6674]

Why has nobody made a movie about Christopher Lee’s life? Get on it, Hollywood!

[@obi-juantacobi8552]

A single part of his life made an entire film lol. League of Ungentlemanly Warfare. He was a founding member

[@ninakrishnamurthy6674]

@@obi-juantacobi8552 I’ve never heard of this movie before.

[@obi-juantacobi8552]

@ninakrishnamurthy6674 sorry it's called Minstry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. It hit theaters maybe 2 months ago

[@ninakrishnamurthy6674]

@@obi-juantacobi8552 Is it any good? I have not heard ANYTHING about it

[@obi-juantacobi8552]

@ninakrishnamurthy6674 if you like action thriller movies with a touch of humor it's pretty good. I won't say it's guy Ritchie's best work, but it's solid

[@stephan_thaddeus]

Star Wars fans when seeing the same actor as count dooku: OMG THIS IS CRAZY

[@erikgustin]

"Trust me, I've done it before."

[@REBELCOMMANDO67]

HEY BATTLEFRONT UPDATES!!!! I KNEW I RECOGNIZED YOUR VOICE!!!!

[@TonttuTorvinen]

These little things add authenticity. We don't know how it should go but when all of the little details add up we sense it.

[@WeesloYT]

Elliot! Love the new channel!

[@MiddleEarthUpdates]

Glad to see you here 😄

[@ryszakowy]

Peter jackson: Chris, try screaming in shock when he stabs you. Christopher Lee: HAVE YOU ANY IDEA WHAT KIND OF NOISE HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY IS STABBED IN THE BACK *christopher said calmly BECAUSE I DO

[@wesleyward5901]

Who knew he was a powerful wizard, a Sith Lord, a WW2 vet *and* worked with British secret services? The more ya know.

[@attitudeproblem6462]

Leave it to the Experts…

[@CalebePriester]

You see. He was not arrogant. He was just making a point. Good thing Peter Jackson was humble enough to listen to the voice of experience, huh?

[@utarian7]

Credit to Jackson for the humility and deference.

[@lisastenzel5713]

The end😂 so perfect edited 😂 thanks to whoever did that😂😂 I can't 😂😂🤣

[@zyzyx1111]

"Signature look of Superiority"

[@artjackson8360]

It's kind of crazy to think that Saruman's stabbing scene was filmed in the studio parking lot.

[@evenstarelectricrailway3281]

This man has a kill count. Don't doubt him.

[@vincemaranzano4197]

Jackson : Chris, I want you too scream in this scene Lee : Have you got any idea who you speaking to?

[@johnbower7452]

Interestingly though that in the book Saruman doesn't die there, he ravages Hobbiton after the ring is destroyed; just as in Sam's vision.

[@mobgabriel1767]

Ansem the wise, count dooku and saruman the man is a legend

[@JukkaRamo]

What about Dracula, and James Bond villain, plus others

[@cynthiaahern9081]

This scene wasn't in the movie I saw. Is this part of the extended version,?

[@brysonfreeman7226]

Yes, it’s on the extended edition of The Return Of The King

[@craigalexander966]

Yeh he falls off the tower and gets impaled on like a waterwheel which drowns him, it’s pretty gruesome.

[@winklenator]

If peter avoided Christopher Lee after this conversation I wouldn’t blame him. 😂

[@simonletch9315]

"It seems I am not the only spy."

[@DmytroBogdan]

So that is why that scene looks so realistically!

[@ysbrandhaagsma5887]

Rip Christopher Lee🙏

[@josteinhenrique2779]

0:50 Peter Jackson: "Are you sure a stabbed person just make these 'oh' low sounds?" Christopher Lee: "Bro, trust me, I know better. I stabbed a couple of enemy soldiers myself on my spy days, so if there is somebody in this room who know the best how stabbed people sound, it's me." Peter Jackson: "... ok, fair enough..."

[@KENSHIROez3260]

It is both interesting and sad that he know how human actually react to their body get stabbed, he must have seen a lot of gore back then😢

[@onEmEmbErstudios]

That's why he's the GOAT!

[@AdeptKing]

When you think on it, it makes sense since even getting hit hard enough drives the air out.

[@666Havers]

That's more to do with your diaphragm spasming

[@boi3987]

He was a treasure in this age of actors and actresses.

[@Genrevideos]

If anything Lee stepping in and telling Jackson what it would actually sound like if you got stabbed in the back actually made it more shocking. You feel the weight of vengeful malice coming out of Grima when he seizes the opportunity to enact his revenge against Sauroman

[@Jagger-Tyr_13]

Rest in peace, sir. 🤘

[@cpt.marley]

And this is why films should be dubbed wisely.

[@hugmynutus]

"Have you seen Inglorious Bastards Peter? Well it didn't work, obviously, but MI6 gave it a go." - Christopher Lee

[@Sargeant_Barnes]

I have wondered about the stabbing scene since I bought the extended edition as a little boy this explains everything

[@TGOjohnnyY6492]

R.I.P. Sir Christopher Lee. Cannot imagine a single good reason to cut all that from the movie. But no negativity here. I would like to imagine that no one watches anything but the directors cut of these!

[@robertwalegir8677]

I love him in the movie Hannie Coulter, who was Raquel Welch, and he played a gun maker

[@obamacare9681]

Rest in peace to the legend Sir Christopher Lee

[@tokiomitohsaka7770]

I’m now thinking how terrifying Makima would be in the Shibuya incident… Great cosplay!

[@Paccyd33]

and after all that they still cut this scene in the theatrical version

[@DarkPurpleDude]

"Have you any idea what kind of noise happens when somebody is stabbed in the back? Well, because I do." -Christopher Lee *later* "Hey, Chris. Have you any idea what kind of noise happens when Saruman isn't in the movie? Well, we're gonna find out together." -Peter Jackson, probably

[@smirkyshadow4152]

Fun fact Christopher Lee was actually the real life James bond as in he was the actual inspiration for James Bond, as he was the brother in law for the creator of James Bond James Bond was inspired directly by Christopher Lee's time in british intelligence

[@347Jimmy]

Lee also pointed out to Jackson that when someone falls into lava, they won't splash into it like water, they will splatter as if they've fallen on dense stone, because they have. But PJ didn't take his advice on that one.

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

In all fairness, people have been used to seeing lava in cinema act like orange juice since forever. If it was dense it would look unrealistic, even though it’s not.

[@347Jimmy]

@@ricksterdrummer2170 agreed 👍

[@jovianmelendez]

I think making Gollum splatter on the lava would have also taken the rating from a PG-13 to an R lol.

[@verysleepywolf]

Gollum's death will always look weird to me. He should have ignited into flames at least lol.

[@Finn_the_Cat]

Personally I think taking his advice on the stabbing scene was also bad for the same reason. People aren't used to seeing a realistic depiction of how someone dies and are used to over the top depictions in media so most would probably think the little gasp is unrealistic or just dumb​@347Jimmy

[@adb888]

"Surely there must be something more..."

[@Twist-The-Friendly-Hunter]

Sir Christopher lee was a spy and has absolutely killed people in the war. Also, sauroman died on the wheel being impaled on a wooden spike as he was Dracula and they wanted to stake him.

[@bernier42]

“Have you ever killed a man, Peter?”

[@summeren64]

neither did he, the liar

[@feefety1200]

And they cut this out of the movie.

[@Shatter149]

when the actors started teaching tue director, and hurting themselves to perform acting. you know you have the prefect

[@slowemm]

He’s both super cool and terrifying

[@madcatmk213]

"So they devised another ending for me" *shows scene* i found that a bit funny for some reason

[@EirinYagokoro]

Christopher: So how was my death scene performance? Peter: SPLAT Christopher: What do you mean by "SPLAT?"

[@lonewolf5054]

He should've said "that's not how being stabbed in the back sounded like, the man I killed sounded like this " 😂😂😂

[@RockandRollsince1992]

Go read the Wikipedia article on Lee's life. The most interesting thing I've ever read.

[@jedrzejkoszewski4342]

"So they devised another ending to me." THUMP

[@wyruZzah87]

That Saruman's deadly fall was kinda reference to his death as Dracula (Hammer Films).

[@fangwu7576]

Another this is that Christopher Lee as a child saw one of France's last Guillotine Executions so he knew how to act the part as Count Dooku. Also helps that he has also seen limbs get cut off before.

[@obi-juantacobi8552]

Doesn't hurt he was also a world champion fencer

[@gothard5]

oh that’s right. I forgot he was in Lord of the Rings. I only see him as Count Dooku.

[@lisastenzel5713]

The man served in both world wars???😮 Damn... anyhow I had no idea he had another career than acting. He is wow

[@xenon9717]

Bro he wasnt born during ww1 he served in ww2

[@rickfalcon5572]

Mr. Jackson was serious, Mr. Lee. And don’t call him Shirley!

[@HerrNursodar]

1Mio times better acting than all of Ring of Power Bullshit

[@JasonAlexander-y6q]

I never did understand why they removed the sauramon scenes from that movie Its a 9+ hour long film those scenes where great

[@dsvd4727]

Dictionaries should have his photo next to "Thespian"

[@Sly88Frye]

It's too bad the scene was never in the film or the original version. I guess it's in one of the extended versions.

[@Archelaus_v]

Peter: “well you see Christopher, in his last breathes Saruman not only feels the blade of treachery but all his ambitions and desires and …” Sir Christopher: “shut up, nerd. Roll the damn take”

[@samu7015]

And then he proceeded to remove that entire scene from the film...

[@otaviocamanho1135]

All taht to be cut from the theater release...it makes no sense to cut that

[@Dante02d12]

Peter Jackson : "I listened to Christopher, he obviously knows what he's talking about. I'm not bitter at all." *Proceeds to cut that scene from theatrical release. Not bitter at all!*

[@thelonewolf7443]

He’s also Willy Wonka’s dad! 🍫

[@bighand1530]

Saruman became a dentist for Jack Sparrow.