AJP PR7 | The Forgotten Unicorn

[@chroniclesofsolid]

KTM 690 price has been increased to 20k aud now 😢

[@HandyTot]

Here in the states where I live requires emissions compliance (Euro 5) I would of bought this if it had it.

[@telhinhas]

The PR7 complies with the latest EU regulations and as far as I know if it can be sold in Europe, it can be sold anywhere.

[@VeitSchenk]

exactly, I have last year's model, and that's definitely Euro 5

[@grayl5514]

There are very low km 23 model 690s for sale (

[@WeckforsDiscovery]

Picked up my 2022 model, two years ago. Have ridden 10 000kms without any real problems. Importer in Sweden replaced my bended side stand without any cost. Upgraded suspension front and rear last year. That made a big change in stability and curve taking on gravel. I am a super happy AJP PR7 owner! Greetings from Sweden!👍

[@Bocaf]

Köpt hos stans moto? Idag har han bara "Race", oklart om dessa är reggade?

[@mudaamoob]

What did you upgrade?

[@WeckforsDiscovery]

@ Hi, I sent my suspension to RG3. They installed new springs and revalved + thicker oil.

[@petergrinsted4652]

Have a 2018 and yeah, it's awesome. Few quirks like the fuel filler being hard to use (you can't see in so easy to overfill, but you get used to it), not a fan of the tablet 'dash' (swapped it out for a Garmin Zumo XT) and a couple other minor things, but I haven't met a bike yet that didn't have its own minor quirks. Ultimately I love it, it's the perfect bike for everything in Australia; scratching pegs in the Adelaide hills, cruising on the highways and exploring the back roads and tracks. I have a KTM1190 ADV R which I love as well and definitely miss the power when on the PR7, but when it comes to picking the bike up in a sandy gully, the PR7 redeems itself quickly!

[@urosgregorec]

2021 model owner for two years and over 12.000km. It is my unicorn. Awsome comfortable seat, great power, suspension. I use for multi day trips and enduro style exploration of the woods around my house. It can do every thing. It is no problem to be in the saddle for 9 hours on the asflat. Or to go a few laps on the local motocross track. Range on one tank is around 260 km when on double track. When on enduro single track, the range is less, when only on the road, than over 300km.

[@adventure503]

I have a 2022 model in Australia with about 14000kms on it now. I am going to cross the Simpson in June on it. I also own a KTM690 with a long range fuel kit and fairing, and a 2006 KTM 640 Adventure. The AJP outrides them both.

[@rubenanacleto24]

They are very good bikes. The factory is actually close to my house

[@jamesfairmind2247]

Fantastic bike, hoping to buy one soon. Biggest reason for lack of market penetration is simply that AJP is a very small factory and they are not geared up to meet increased demand. To become big enough would be a multi million investment and unless a bigger company buys them out there is no way of building more.

[@darwinLee81283]

I actually appreciate that they are Small. Rooting for them to succeed.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

@@darwinLee81283 I appreciate the very same thing and I appreciate your profile picture - COYG!!!!

[@zefautino]

I believe António would starve before selling the company to KrapTM.

[@jamesfairmind2247]

@@zefautino I am sure he would.

[@marks-0-0]

What doesn't help is their lack of an official online presence and model lineup information. I was looking to buy a PR4 a few years back and simply gave up because trying to research their bikes was painful. I understand they're a small company but it wouldn't take much to be consistent online giving customers confidence in who AJP are. Being the underdog is cool but if we don't understand who you are then it won't work.

[@ozadv]

Early adopter here - it's my unicorn 😂 First of all, this is a proven, stone-axe simple and reliable engine with plenty of parts availability - its real genius is what BMW added to the OEM Husky lump - a balance shaft giving an incredibly smooth engine for a thumper! Ok, everything's a compromise and a 660 twin like my Tuareg (yes apparently I like exotic yet its actually a preference for the best), will run better on the slab at speed - but not by much.. The PR7 is very smooth, torquey and waay lighter with even better weight distribution - tanks under the seat.. off road it's fantastic, suspension, ground clearance, brakes - all top class. Dealers? Pfft, these are easy to work on (by you or your favourite local mechanic - no crazy electronics needing OEM training and tools), parts are readily available and in any event my experience with both the NSW dealer, Harry's motorcycles, and the Oz importer has been Rolls Royce - they're keen to ensure a smooth relationship. As is the factory - check out the handmade passion on various utubes.. I'm stoked with this bike and have no regrets 🎉 If others have worries getting in the way - that's their loss - c'est la vie.. 😊

[@ro61n50]

My loss, I agree. I thought I liked to wrench but maybe my ambition outweighed my talent. And then there was no dealer to be found (in my hood). Great bike though man! I'm going to miss it in the dirt and maybe it just wasn't right for me right now. You pay for experience. Different strokes for different folks

[@nathanbanks7091]

I love mine. Not having to remove the cams for a valve adjustment is amazing. KTM made a mistake by not further developing this engine design when they bought the Husqvarna brand. The current LC-4 is an overteched unreliable mess.

[@powertrip1050]

@@ozadv - mate!! I have a Tuareg - which is my ultimate adv tourer....and I was looking at the AJP as the pinnacle of the adv enduro beast realm - clearly, you and I are the intelligent ones here. 😃I am making my way back to aus from europe (and bringing my Tuareg with me - of course!)....when I get my AJP we can start a club - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 (BTW, the same logic applies about reliability with the Tuareg I reckon - that engine has been around, getting thrashed, for years. Brilliant)....I'm really looking forward to checking out the AJP

[@mudaamoob]

Any bike Ive owned, I never visited dealer. Thats some lame point that everyone makes. I always buy parts from online or any local store(Car/moto both provide all the parts you want) I DIY or let motoshop do the jobs which require some tools that I dont have. Its an old Husqvarna engine which should be good. SWM produces them now. Thank you for your feedback! It seems AJP is my unicorn aswell and I would love to get it.

[@alvarosanchez2426]

I own one since 2017; the best adventure trail-enduro Ive ever had. No problems in 20k km, it has out of the box all I need including rear sub-chassis which means I can carry luggage without adding heavy racks and it is also very comfortable. Maintenance is quite easy, I do it myself and spare components are very standard so I can buy them anywhere, in case I need ordering something from the dealer I get it by mail in 3-5 days which in my experience is similar than what it takes to get parts for my ktm 890

[@Pcfly]

I had a 2011 TE-630 since new until 2014, put 15k miles on it in the USA…….I should have never sold it! Never had an issue with the bike aside from people telling me I should have been on a 690. Back then the TE-630 had a counter balanced motor and was sooooo much smoother than a 690 in addition to a great running bike straight out of the box, no fumbling with ECU or pipes or suspension. It worked and took me on a great number of adventures. I loved that bike…..great memories. The only lacking issue was as you mentioned, the much smaller availability of accessories. Since then, I’ve looked at the AJP a couple years now, looks great, might give it a go. Thanks for doing a video on this bike.🖖

[@nathanbanks7091]

The same engine as your beloved TE630, in a better chassis with easier maintenance. The air filter, fuel pump, battery, and fuses are all easily accessible. I love this bike.

[@borysdewar9741]

I've got PR5, which is 250cc dual sport from AJP, but more enduro orientated. I reached out directly to AJP Portugal for support (not even a bike's fault) and they responded and helped. On the contrary, KTM sold me a new bike with fairing full of scratches and KTM support was: it's normal, all the bikes have this issue. Yet if KTM would have come up with PR7, people would buy it more... Solid, great video!

[@bosoceansport2068]

A lot of people love this bike, especially later models. If a major dealer in Oz picked it up and offered good after sales service then they would sell quite a few I think. Without local support, it’s a risky purchase in my eyes. Your comment that if KTM or Honda made the same bike it would sell well is true. Off the shelf she’s a beauty.

[@chroniclesofsolid]

I wonder if it’s going to survive us moving to euro 6 😢

[@nathanbanks7091]

​@@chroniclesofsolid Resist that authoritarian garbage...

[@brendenvosper7772]

Two of our crew have a PR7, both love them. Coming across as a ‘big dirt bike’ they just work. Your video covers the point very well and the more I see the two here in action the more I like them. They certainly hit the sweet point of suspension, weight, fuel capacity and the compromise between comfort and performance. There are videos of factory tours, worth a watch. A small passionate team make them. Quality focused. Some may be surprised at the grass roots manufacturing employed. Hand made components. No robots. Rudimentary batch production. Certainly not a sophisticated large manufacturing plant. See if you can get a ride on one Solid, very different but certainly not ‘wrong’ either. I agree totally that if a Japanese manufacturer copied the base formula they would have an instant winner in the eyes of adventure riders.

[@lindsaypetersen1277]

I am more than happy to spend time with COS and give a real world honest interview from an owner of No2 in Aus

[@nathanbanks7091]

So far, mine is THE Unicorn. It has a few quirks. It is not a bike for owners who take their bike to a dealer for an oil changes and other regular maintenance. It is perfect for the rider who does their own maintenance. It is perfect for the rider that does not want ABS, rider modes, or other unnecessary BS. Mine cost slightly less than a new 690/701 in the US. It lacks the extra technology of that bike, but that is a positive for me. The included tablet and DMD2 is a gimmick I am still learning to use. I would have purchased the bike without it. The engine has a long history of reliability with basic maintenance and has more than enough power. The suspension is good spec and adjustable, the seat is comfortable, the wind protection is adequate. So far, so good. If this bike remains reliable, I will ride it for many years.

[@Braapncamp]

Awesome presentation of the PR7, i have done an extended testride of this bike and i just love it, It is definitely the bike i look at if i would replace my lovely beast of 890R. This summer i will actually have a new deomo PR7 in the garage for some traveling and rides, look forward to it!

[@nigellawrance2130]

I bought a 2020 and I have to say I am impressed with it , did a trip to Morocco on it last year and it did the road miles through Spain no problem, kept up with the two Tenere 700's, and off road it is great. Have to agree with the wiring though, it's not great.

[@guesshoo703]

that husky motor is great....ive had an old husky te250 2008 and it,ll take you anywhere and just keep going.....great little motor

[@grayl5514]

I live in Sydney. I would have to travel to Uralla, some 5.5 hrs and 450km to look at an AJP, if they have one.That is an overwhelming example of why it doesn't sell. Can't deny the excellent specs. And there is no way they would be able to meet demand if there were more dealers. The market has spoken, it wants heavy twins. Like a lot of riders, I want light weight so I buy KTM singles and alter them into my type of bike.

[@ornametrics]

Uralla! Interesting. I grew up in Armidale, 20kms away.

[@nathanbanks7091]

Worth the drive...

[@jesuschrist7169]

The market has spoken and heavy twins, but lots of riders want light weight..... the market follows what people want 😂 it's ok to say you have no idea 😂

[@stuartferrier7560]

I think the real hidden unicorn is the SWM Superdual which is the poorer cousin of the AJP. They share the same smooth and robust engine and transmission, have a larger fuel tank, Brembo brakes and much more, and used to retail for around half the price of the AJP. I have owned the the Superdual since 2018 and absolutely love it, however because of the Oz market resistance against small manufacturers, the sales have not been great enough to keep the importer and factory interested. Sometimes we just shoot ourselves in the foot!

[@nathanbanks7091]

The Super Dual is a great bike. Much more closely related to the TE630 it was derived from. The SD is like a high performance KLR. Everything the KLR should have been by now. The PR7, while sharing the same engine, is a different beast. The PR7 is my perfect motorcycle. The only thing I had to add to make it perfect was a handlebar riser and some soft luggage.

[@milaventurasprod]

AJP are quite good motorcycles, and the PR7 is amazing. The only advantage I have with my T7 is a much more comfortable ride for those days in the saddle, but if I was going to go mostly off-road I’d prefer one to a 690

[@joshdoddadbod]

The problem for me is they simply just aren't available in Canada. Otherwise I'd have one in the garage.

[@d0b0b]

The PR7 is £10k in the UK, if they did more of an adventure spec on the same platform and they did a delivery and pick up service for servicing they would have a hit.

[@williamrae9954]

£14k for the Gold Edition... yikes

[@algee8228]

It is a great looking and spec'd bike for sure!

[@tracythorleifson]

The AJP PR7 may be the ultimate unicorn, but AJP dealers are more rare than unicorns in the U.S.

[@airadaimagery692]

The bike doesn’t come from the manufacturer with a street legal registration.

[@dresmart432]

Brutal Dakar Rally bike !! AJP Mundial !! Parabéns 🎇

[@MacawAviculture]

I live in remote Colorado, USA and have a seemingly infinite selection of incredible paved and off-road trails to explore. After only buying and riding a variety of KTM 350 and 500 enduros, it is time to say goodby to KTM forever. Their new 790/890/1290 bikes are ugly, have insane and unnecessary electronics, and can have serious reliability issues. This AJP P7 is a beautiful example of what a dirt bike/adventure bike should look like, and should weigh for those of us enjoying both paved and off-road riding adventures. Great video, thank you for sharing!

[@richardsimpson3792]

Thanks for a good and fair review. Here's a view from Englandland. I did consider buying one a couple of years back...in spite of the origin of the engine (worst motorcycle decision I ever made was to get rid of a DR350S and buy a Husky TE610E). We have an AJP dealer locally. He had 2 PR7s; one with the power kit, and one standard. Neither of them would start. They both made the same noise as when my old 610 wouldn't start (which it wouldn't most of the time). Needless to say, I got a GasGas ES700 instead (good price end of year deal). Getting the ES7 up to PR7 spec (ie rack, bars, fairing) would put the prices about on par, but I think I got the better deal, probably.

[@lindsaypetersen1277]

The price for the PR7 is $20k plus on road plus dealer charges so that puts it at $21k add on the power up kit which you need will have it at just over $22.3k on the road in NSW. That is a hard ask for anyone taking the plunge into the totally unknown for them. I am the owner of the 2nd one in Australia and went through all the hard work with a handful of others sorting the bike for the AJP factory. To their credit there were very helpful in helping get it right for us. What the PR7 is today is only because of a handful of owners here on the east coast of Aus who persevered with it knowing it was a great thing but lacked some components suitable for Aussie terrain. Unfortunately this bike will remain in the doldrums until someone with vision, drive and ability take the reigns and show Australia what it really is about and capable of doing.

[@CV450x]

What does the ktm 690r list for over there?

[@chainsawversustree]

Did Factory help you ?

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Appreciate all the effort from the land down under!

[@ronboe6325]

I'm shocked! The desert scenes look a LOT like what we have around Phoenix AZ so I looked up the dealers. Damn! I have one about a mile away!! Price is a bit high - but you seem to get what you pay for.

[@airadaimagery692]

The bike doesn’t come with a street ready registration here in the US. Unless you live in one of the few states that lets you take a dirt bike and convert it into a dual sport, and you go to your local state troopers office to acquire an official street legal registration for it, you won’t be able to register it to be street legal. And that’s why there aren’t very many of them sold here.

[@ronboe6325]

@@airadaimagery692 Talked to the dealer today, according to him: He has already sold everything save one Gold Version and they are pre-sold before they show up. He says the come pre-wired for signals and he sells the kit to install them. I was able to sit on a customers plated bike while there. Looks like Arizona is one of those states.

[@nathanbanks7091]

​​@@airadaimagery692 Most US states allow converting an "off-road only" motorcycle to street legal. The leftoid authoritarian states that don't allow it are the minority. Stop voting blue.

[@rodh4512]

Great video and discussion! No question this is an interesting bike. I was taking a serious look at this in 2022 when the current dealer was importing into Australia. What stopped me was that the bike is sold as an off-road bike with no ABS and only set up for one person was going to be a bit inconvenient too. I know what's coming next - "you don't need ABS if you know how to brake" but on knobby tyres, on wet pavement, in an emergency, most of us will pull that front brake lever too hard. I got a KTM690 instead and I am very happy with it. But (in Australia at least) by the time you option it with what the PR7 comes with as standard, you definitely spend a lot more.

[@barebonesmc]

just to be clear, Sachs is pronounced "sacks" not "sachets" sorry to be a pedant but you should know Sachs are a company with a lot of history. The PR7 doesnt actually fit most Rally criteria in most countries either, so it isnt a rally bike as such. the seat height can put some people off, and the big one for me was it is a solo only bike, rear pegs a better seat set up and stronger rear subframe would make it a more adventure friendly bike, but the small company didnt have the money to meet the ABS criteria of passenger carrying bikes in Europe. TBC, it is a fantastic solo ADV bike with far better off road performance than anything else i have ridden. although high, the tank design keep the centre of gravity low, air box means deep river crossings are a breeze and the SWM built engine, which has a much bigger sump capacity than the original Husky engine, and is a pretty reliable lump. build quality is sublime too. they are all hand built, not from a production line, and the company have passion for what they do

[@geddstock]

Why would you be looking at a hardcore off-roader if you want a 2 up with baggage tourer? There’s plenty of those from every manufacturer.

[@geoffbybee7125]

Never heard of this until now but would buy this in a heartbeat over China Kove 450. I already have a TM so willing to give any small euro brand a go

[@Chris_Z.]

Have a 2022 model from new. Great bike. Only issue was the side stand. AJP have addressed this on the sept 2023 models. There are some Aust businesses that have made some accessories for the bike. Most you still have to get from Overseas. I like having the bike with less accessories on it. Don't want to add unnecessary weight.

[@davidhyde2267]

Funny you should be posting this now, ..currently in Australia visiting family, I'm from the U.K, when I get back home I have an AJP PR7 to collect from one of two dealers in my country, bit the bullet and put a deposit down before I left. Can't wait to see if it's my unicorn!

[@OlaCurtius]

Bought a 2019 690 Enduro R and modified it to Rally spec. If I were to buy a new bike it would probably be the AJP or Fantic.

[@airadaimagery692]

I would definitely take the leap. And I believe lots of other Americans would as well. The biggest problem is that it doesn’t come from the manufacturer ready to register as a street legal motorcycle. In some states, we can jump through a few hoops, and convert it to a street legal dual sport motorcycle, and acquire a street registration for it, but it’s not that easy of a process, and some states are so strict, if the motorcycle doesn’t come registered for the street from the manufacturer, it’s impossible to get a street registration for it.

[@longkeithdiablo8812]

Unicorns come and unicorns go. A manufacturer like AJP or CCM makes the bike everybody says they want and then nobody wants it........ Or not enough people to make it viable......

[@Weltbummler23]

The issue with the CCM was there was no dealers in the states and it was only available 3 years before they announced they were gonna bin it. From the comments here, sounds like AJP has a dealer/service access issue. But at the same time the PR7 isn't uniquely differentiated amongst the other bikes in the market. The CCM GP450 was, and for a brief moment, it stood alone.

[@silverhill377]

If I'm not mistaken, The Kove Rally is about three grand cheaper. Of course time will tell about the reliability of the Kove, but so far all reports are quite positive! I love mine but I only have about a thousand miles on it due to I live in colorado. Snow is finally melting. I also own⁷ed about five other bikes. The dealership add distributor in Utah is excellent. They have lots of Parts on hand and ship very quickly. Suspension is basically showa. Very cool bike! I'm actually ridden both of these bikes but not back-to-back. One stand out on the 450 is the counterbalanced motor. Extremely smooth!

[@willisbcteoh9840]

My 2004 KTM640 Adventure is still going super strong. Lightweight, large fuel tank, brilliant WP forks/ shock and ready to race from get go.

[@gillesgenete9598]

In 2021 I tested the AJP PR7 which is an excellent adventure bike, capable, reliable, well equipped. But I finally bought an Husky 701E for the exact reason you mentioned : dealership close to my home. I ended selling my 701 after 2 years/14.000km of TET, to now ride a 500excf because of the lighter weight: being 67years old, the 165kg of 701 became too heavy for my handling and lifting it up when alone. For those interested, there is a YT channel of PR7 rider : Long Ride Zone who describes his experience of PR7.

[@steveh545]

yup. Had one for a brief time. Even living in a major US city, the nearest dealer was 15 hours away. I actually had to ship the bike out and back, for not a small amount of money, to have something fixed. Price... it used to be on the cheaper end of dual sport bikes, but harder for a small company to spread out supply costs when they rise. In the end, i think it's a 'great bike' for the right person. it depends on how you ride, and where you ride. I've decided my unicorn bike wasn't the right bike for me. Live and learn.

[@garryharnell5757]

awesome bike and i'd have one immediately if i had the garage space. Just talked a mate into getting one and think he loves it all ready.

[@stretcht7]

Really good review as always, not sure if you know Colin Bayman (Ride with me), who is near Hillarys somewhere if you wanted to see one or ride an AJP, is the dealer now. Anyway look up Ride with me.

[@euenmoto]

Nice vid as always Solid! Also a point, is that people in offroad motorbike world really like the part of buying a bike, an slowly make it the way you want to be (tunning), so, if you buy a bike ready for hit the dirt you also miss this part of the funny part of offroadmbikes… just another view. Greatings from Spain! 😊

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Nice point mate 👍

[@spotthedogg]

I believe Sachs is pronounced saks, not sachet 👍🏻✌🏻 It has always been an intriguing bike but I have yet to even see one, not sure if they are even in Canada

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Brain fart moment 💨

[@batcaveracing]

I find it interesting that we all seem to want rally spec bikes now. Even though half the people buying them would struggle to ride a push bike. All we need is the unicorn dual sport not a Dakar bike.

[@Weltbummler23]

I don't want the dakar rally - i want the dual sport

[@scannorse]

And a unicorn dual sport bike you get here

[@JohannesDalenMC]

Happy to report that the PR7 is far from a rally bike - sure it has enduro specced suspension, looks and weighs the same as a 450 rally bike, but it's such a gentle and easy bike. More like a modernized dr650 than a 450 rally. PR7 is a dual sport, not a Dakar bike (although I'm sure it's super capable in the right hands).

[@Weltbummler23]

@@JohannesDalenMC just saw you posted a new video about it, very cool! seems like theres 2 lightweight adv bikes (less than 370lbs wet) available on the market that dont require fitting a dual sport with at minumum a windscreen, larger fuel tank and a seat (aside from personal preference): the ajp pr7, and the crf300l rally. Not including kove 450 due to short service intervals.

[@Weltbummler23]

@@JohannesDalenMC what type of battery comes with the PR7? Are there easy weight savings from adding a lithium battery and changing the exhaust, like on the dr650?

[@larrynorsworthy8582]

2017 pr4 owner here. Always had fueling issues, the fuel pickup tube is mild steel, solid rust. I drilled a hole in the tank, inserted a rubber line , epoxied in place, and now runs flawlessly. Parts availability good luck...

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Thanks for sharing

[@zefautino]

For parts, if in desperate need, call the factory directly, expose your problem, they may help you.

[@kiwiadventurer]

Damn good over view and well researched Solid. I''ve thrashed the research and blogs and there are some particularly good reviews and comparisons out there. I like the the ready to go aspect and less I have to do the better. The motor is getting long in the tooth but long as spares are available who cares. Would be my unicorn, either that or a 500KTM, but buying one is only the beginning and then one still has the short service intervals.........

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Thanks mate 👍

[@drifterdave01]

It drives me nuts that they’ve built the unicorn but no one buys/supports it. Unfortunately they are not in Canada. Also worth mentioning is the incredible gearbox ratios. Super wide.

[@ozadv]

Yes, gearing is phenomenal - 1st is kinda short which is not a bad thing as 2nd and 3rd pull from low and forever.. 6th winds long on the slab and with the balance shaft - by far the smoothest thumper I've ridden with the Portuguese seat - grippy sides, firm long top for all day comfort. A lot of thought has been put into these bikes and by actual riders

[@drifterdave01]

I had the same ratios in my te610, pure magic.

[@Jay-hv4lb]

​ @drifterdave01 ​ @ozadv what are you both talking about, pr7 has sm630 engine and gearbox. Its as close ratio as it gets and ruins this bike. wide ratio gearbox would make it awesome bike

[@ozadv]

@@Jay-hv4lb there may be differences about what 'wide' means - as I said 1st is short, and the rest pull from low with a long top gear - where's the problem?!?

[@Jay-hv4lb]

​@@ozadvproblem is you haven't ridden wide ratio gearbox. You can ride single tracks and highway comfortably. And with supermoto gearbox all gears are short and you either have single track or highway. Husqvarna engineered enduro gearbox with longer 5th and 6th for a reason

[@karlkrebs]

The price in Australia is “weird”. In Germany the KTM 690 Enduro R is about 1000€ more expensive than the PR7. Maybe something to do with importing it!? Anyway, I just bought one and got it about 1,5 weeks ago So far i have only done 600 miles but with a big smile. For once I’m happy that Germany is not a big country because my Dealer is “only" 2h away. As you mentioned they're not a big company (I believe at the moment about 35 people work there) but that is also good. They had for example also sometimes problems with the clutch cylinder. I can't remember how long it took KTM to acknowledge and finally do something about it, but it was long. AJP just swapped it for an oberon, done There are three videos out from a french guy, he done 34000Km at the time of filming. He did however have some issues because he had an earlier model. But not enough to make him sell it :) Anyway, thanks for the video!

[@SunnyJim93]

I would definitely consider one of these as a lighter replacement to my Tenere 700. On the subject of unknown British lightweight adventure bikes the CCM GP450 Adventure was way ahead of it's time and doesn't get the recognition it deserves.

[@searchingfor6thgear44]

Thanks for the review. I appreciate your perspective and find your information both reliable and really useful. I really like the PR7, but found a well appointed, used, 690 Enduro for lots less. For my purposes, should I buy new, the discount on the KTM 790 Adventure makes the PR7 a very hard sell (for my uses, not everyone's, just mine; I'm in the USA, so that impacts price comparisons, too).

[@lachy1709]

Interesting point about the price. I feel like its a common occurrence that people will point out that one bike is so much more expensive than another, yet when you then look at things like crash bars, bark busters, slid plates, LED lights, it turns out the more expensive one has those items stock and by the time they're considered the price of the two bikes are equal.

[@biscuitsalive]

I’ve nearly bought one twice over the last couple of years. But both times they just were asking too much for it. They don’t pop up for sale used often so I can see why they hold price. But it’s still used, so should t sell for nearly new price. In terms of issues. I’ve mainly heard cold start can be tricky, but not much else. Small niggles mainly. Seat height is a bit tall for my 5,8” height. But still keeping my eyes open for a used one at a good £.

[@jamesboaz4787]

This has HUGE potential in the USA market place I promise.

[@cyclopathic998]

Problem is that PR7 isn't EPA approved and not 50-state legal in the US. And many wouldn't touch it because there's no dealer nearby, just like with Tuareg vs T7. One is a Yamaha, another is a better bike. Guess which sells?

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Great point there mate. I had forgot it’s only euro 5.

[@cyclopathic998]

@@chroniclesofsolid in US to sell the bike you need to get DOT and EPA certifications. DOT requires optics certification, blinky position, kickstand/clutch starter block, etc etc. EPA emissions are less restrictive than Euro5, but they require 9000mi durability test, which cost $$$$$ and AJP made a decision not to go for it. As is I can drive 500mi and buy one, but you can't plate it in my state and half of the country. Good bike though I set on one in EU

[@ozadv]

Yes, in Oz it's all state legal as a road registrable 'enduro' - so doesn't need ABS or pillion pegs etc.

[@modzso2]

I have a 2021 one, it has the Athena ECU, closed cartridge forks already. But I had to import it from the neighboring country so no dealership support. Luckily the bike is simple: valve clearances can be checked without removing the engine. Most of the consumable parts (brake pads, oil filters, chain, sprockets) can be found locally, but other gaskets, filters, etc may require internet searching, ordering. I really like it off-road, I think AJP knows what is required for off-road: good suspension, good torque values early in the rpm, linear power delivery, rim locks from the factory.

[@888jimmy]

Nice one Solid. My prob with the AJP, and like you say, there is not enough dealer coverage in Aus. That and suspect difficulty in sourcing after market parts.

[@joshuasarfati5520]

I had a husky te 630. They actually had a wider ratio gearbox than the re modled swm remake. I absolutely loved that engine it was super smooth. Powerful enough and the gear ratios were perfect IMO. I reckon id really like a ajp. I have heard one rider mention that when bhe is fully loaded with gear the front end becomes very light given the fuel ⛽ s under the seat. Id be keen to know how the aluminium frame holds up to carrying gear. That was certainly a weakness on the te husky.

[@jagzilla5049]

This would be my unicorn. It has everything I could ask for in a bike. The only 2 things that would stop me from buying it are the price (I could buy and build out a new DR650 or SWM RE500 for less than the price of a PR7), and the lack of a larger dealer network. I'm in Mississippi, and the nearest dealer for me is 750 miles away, in Ohio. If the price was under $10k, I think I would buy it regardless of the lack of dealer network.

[@bjornokant4075]

My two cents about the AJP PR7. I acually tried buying one back when i was looking for my second bike, figured this could probably work for two bikes. . No dealers had it, and the used marked was zero. Now there is one dealer that has it, but its priced too high to be a big seller, rough translation to euros here. For example, AJP PR7, 15000Euros, T7 extreme 13000, Husqvarna 701 13000. And i think thats stopping a lot of people, even if they will bolt on stuff for 2000 euros after that.. Would love to be an early adopter (even contemplated buying a new onefor once) but the price is high when you compare it to a risky purchase..

[@Weltbummler23]

Hey solid, got a couple video ideas for your: how about making a video remembering the CCM450? And second (maybe could be rolled in with the CCM450), how about a shiny foil hat video estimating the possible weight range of a modern 400cc dual sport, if a manufacturer dare make one? A starting point could be the weight of the KLX300 and then adding: 1) the difference between the weight of the new ktm 390 engine (39kgs) and the klx300 engine (i think maybe 8 or 9kgs lighter?), 2) additional weight of stronger drivetrain components, 3)additional fuel due to lower efficiency, etc,. Would take some research but I'd be curious what you'd come up with. I'm guessing it would realistically be maybe 15kgs heavier than the klx wet, so around 150kgs (which would be just 5kgs more than the wet weight of the CCM450, but without needing the space aged aluminum frame, bespoke components, etc, but that number might be closer if you compare the 2 bikes on a "per range" basis).

[@forzavale5303]

I think that CfMoto 450MT is a real unicorn!

[@ro61n50]

Owned one, yes. Great bike, yes. Dealer network, no. A lot of the issues mentioned have been dealt with quite satisfactorily but... I can wrench but there are certain things that you need a dealer for, and that the amazing Facebook network can't help you with, unfortunately. I will miss that amazing bike but I'm in line for a 450MT. Nuff said

[@robindigital]

What about a 450 Kove?

[@skaraborgcraft]

"thats a nice shirt, do they do one for men?" paraphrasing Jared in The Big Short.

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Great movie 🎥

[@DaveBowen-h7o]

I have 2022 and I like it very much, but I have a few criticisms. The windscreen buffets, it's way better at high speed with it just removed but looks hideous. The tower breaks the wind nicely without the buffeting. The pegs are a bit high, mostly noticeable when you stand up. Finally, it seems a bit heavier offroad than the 364lbs. The motor is quite strong and has broad torque and does roadwork really good and the weight seems to be a benefit there, just wear earplugs. Offroad however it becomes a handful if you push hard into stuff. A 25lb diet would help. If you want an adventure-touring bike though, I'd say it's pretty awesome. As long as you are on a road of some kind that isn't ridiculously wooped out it's great.

[@yorkchris10]

CCM also uses this motor. They eventually abandonned the Suzuki DR650 motor. Shineray, SWM's parent, makes an air-cooled 650. I'm guessing the next motor will be Chinese developed. BSA seems to make a compilant Rotax 650 as well as Chinese Voge. It would help to have some continuit y with the engine.

[@clivedarwell5732]

I'm pretty sure that AJP even go as far as to issue a generic parts list including nuts and bolts etc so would have a chance of getting consumables in far flung locations

[@lindsaypetersen1277]

That alternate parts list was created by us owners - we virtually have everything sorted for after market parts

[@TheFoxyt2]

Great content! Sticking with my t7 and ktm 500. Maybe if a large manf had a similar system. For sure not buying a kove 450 ether.

[@AfricaTwin-Stuff]

No sub-frame for luggage ? Fuel range?

[@billcotton1551]

Solid, I've never heard of this bike. Interesting, though.

[@williamhudson3208]

Hi Solid. Thanks for your thoughts. Yes you are right about Honda etc building a bike like this but why won’t Honda etc listen to us. I was recently told by KTM that I should not be concerned with the management of KTM just buy what they have on offer. My bike budget is limited therefore I will continue to do the relevant research and buy second hand. I told that to KTM and was told that it was personal choice. All love. Stroppy William.

[@jasondunn8894]

I do like this bike, especially the weight and the ease of access to air filter, etc and also the inclusion of a tablet. I think the dealership situation is a deal breaker for me.

[@ozadv]

Why? Genuine question as I don't understand - after you buy it and maybe the first service I don't care if I don't see the dealer ever again !?! Factory is passionate and their support is bordering on legendary. There's also a great community online, it's a known reliable engine, parts are readily available and can be worked on by you or any competent mechanic - there's no complicated electronics requiring OEM access..

[@glennboy66]

Definitely ticks the unicorn boxes, getting a ride on one before handing over the cash is a big hurdle for me.

[@mudaamoob]

Sachs had this suspension issue with most of their 2016 lineup. Beta enduro anodization wore off aswell and rusted.

[@VeitSchenk]

I've put about 6000km on the MY23, and it's 'almost' my unicorn - fantastic for multi-day trips, had great fun at the Bosnia Rally, quite a bit of TET in France ... BUT: the suspension doesn't quite suck, but it's at most 'so-so'. I'll be replacing the Sachs with Ohlins, then that should be sorted. The other niggle is the power-delivery: fantastic for cross-country touring and TET, rubbish for tricky terrain: it's near impossible to lift the front-wheel up onto/over anything (yes, it's not just me being stupid, I've had pro-level riders try, and with the basic setup (i.e. .not the power-kit), it's just not snappy enough to get the front up and over things.)

[@uncletom1971]

5000 km oil change? What is the gearbox oil volume?

[@ggs0605]

If it were a Honda, oh yeah!!

[@Daniel-Mclovin]

Why can Ajp offer a bike that ticks alot of boxes but the major brands can't or havnt.. sounds like marketing chess to me 🤔 This bike proves it can be done ( light weight adv class )

[@zefautino]

I can answer that. Big brands have a board meeting to decide what to to do, then the lawyers say what can't be done, than the accounting department tells them how it will be done, and finally the engineers have to build something within all the legal, financial and manufacturing constraints. AJP has one man to decide what's going to happen, and he builds what he wants to ride. He is a rider, not just a businessman.

[@MrEtnorb]

⁠another reason is that Japan is risk averse these days. They make mods to their twin cylinder road bikes and call it the magic “adventure” and you have a best seller.

[@glennboy66]

Big tick now I have a dealer around the corner. Major concern is parts availability as this is crap even with main stream bikes. Other main concern is resale value. Is it better to buy a CRF450rl or Gas gas ES700 for around 15g and spend the 5g getting it to unicorn spec like the Pr7

[@vitorlopes2064]

Great bike 🤙

[@Ali1961-b9s]

If it has a kickstart I'll buy it.

[@robertkoper3039]

Still happy with my crf 300 l but hope to become good enough off road to justify buying a bigger(not heavier)bike…AJP or Kove but I would gladly spend more euros 😂if the Japanese start listening to the ,mostly western,customers.😮

[@whitedrguy6503]

Don’t know where you got you pricing from but the 690/701/700 are 20 grand, OZ. Unicorns are bikes dreamt of by keyboard warriors who really have no intention of buying one because most just come up with impossible ideas, like a twin cylinder bike with 70 hp and weighs 150 Kg wet with a 20 litre fuel tank, in your dreams. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@lewdog9647]

Are spare parts readily available? SWM was a nightmare for getting spare parts.

[@williamrae9954]

Yes...for us in Scotland /Nth England... good dealer in Cumbria

[@glennboy66]

Doing the figures to adventurise crf450rl, ktm 500exc or 690/701 your still up to or way above the ajp pr7 price even if you buy the gas gas 700 on special your still over 20g.

[@davehobbs8341]

Hopefully dealers come around.

[@bigjoe4020]

I am a 80/20 road/dirt rider and at 61 comfort for long distance touring is MY #1 priority. Therefore this is not my unicorn bike. I think it would be the new GS if it was under 220kg wet and half the price 😋

[@ozadv]

Portuguese seat is phenomenal, long 6th gear and balance shaft is fine for the slab. Or get a Tuareg.. 😮

[@davidsonneman1121]

What a great looking bike. Hope they are successful with it. Never really liked the looks of the 690/701 design. To me it looks like they borrowed the frame from a naked sport bike. Nevertheless they are great machines.

[@eralha]

You forgot to mention the craked crank cases problem that many people had, mine had it at 13k km, it cost me 1200€ to fix.

[@Macgregor_images]

Not the unicorn, you summarised the issues very well. 701 or 690 has the market and is better in many aspects you discussed .

[@zefautino]

AJP stands for António e Jorge Pinto, the brothers who founded the company. The company has been struggling since the beginning, and is alive because António is a stubborn man who loves what he does. They have a tiny factory and nowhere near the production or promotion capacity the Chinese have. In Portugal the brand has a good reputation, and that's saying a lot, Portuguese people like to shit on what's Portuguese made by someone else, but there's not that many on the roads. Regarding the price, yes, they are kind of on the not cheap side, even in the domestic market where shipping is not a so big of a factor. Obviously parts will not be a problem, you just call the factory and they'll ship the parts you need. Unicorn? No. Definatly not. Too expensive, if I'm not mistaken, that engine is still from the Cagiva days...

[@Sustrii]

Has a Portuguese and a Supermoto/hard enduro racer I need to say, if you are serious or want to compete, stay away, if you only want to play on Sundays, this is your bike.

[@bretthawton]

Valve clearance checks every 3,107 miles? YUCK!

[@ozadv]

Well, that's the factory spec and a hangover from the OEM Husky. In practice once settled you can reliably stretch the inspection - which is readily accessible.

[@jesuschrist7169]

Watching one break down time and time again and leaving a woman travelling the world stranded in a 3rd world country turned me off them forever!

[@williamrae9954]

A certain Dutch woman on an unreliable Honda CRF300?

[@snupermoto723]

364 lbs? Isn't that the same weight as a DR650, which everybody says is way too heavy to off-road seriously?

[@ozadv]

DR650 is a little more but it's where the weight is carried that matters. I rode a DR through the Pyrenean tracks and believe me, OEM they handle like a pig compared to the svelte rearward under-seat tank PR7.. Lots of technical single track - sure get a 250..😊

[@Gapihamiha6]

I send 2 AJP dealers e mail , they never respond. I never see it in my EU country. In my EU country waiting time for AJP 7 bike is more then 2 years, while i can get Kove 450 today at same diler. Factory in Portugal is smal and assembly of bike parts made by hand.

[@rodotzen4933]

Everything but the price. Simply $5k too much.

[@TubbyTrialTeam]

Shame they aren’t so known really But it does mean you can pick up a secondhand bargain.

[@Kamov66]

Price and is it street legal? Two things that kill it as a unicorn... Also lack of dealer network...