Chuggington VS Thomas - Was It A Knock Off?

[@ThomasTheorist]

Hey all! This is a clip from my Chuggington Retrospective, don't worry, I have a new video coming out next week! Reposting this as it's own video for anyone who missed it.

[@lowfurts]

Thomas had indeed seen such rubbish before

[@PlayDontPause]

Reusing content already? I can’t believe it smh.

[@julyleonard]

My answer to that title is a simple no

[@Tobytramproductions]

Can you do a review on the mighty Express

[@DirectorAhmedAlazawe]

🎉​@@julyleonard

[@WaksWorld05]

I don’t think Chuggington is a rip off because Thomas didn’t create talking trains. Plus, Chuggington is at the very least, a good show when you look at it on its own unlike a certain Mighty Express.

[@iamatrainfan]

Got 2 questions 1st Chuggington is a show more for ADHD Thomas and Friends is a show more for autism 2nd to me Chuggington is quite a Thomas ripoff abit

[@JammedDoorOpenUp]

​@@iamatrainfan that's not even a question 👁️👄👁️

[@drewchaboo719]

@@JammedDoorOpenUpyea with eyes

[@peter19426]

@@iamatrainfanI ain’t autistic and I love Thomas, chuggingtons for little kids

[@iamatrainfan]

@@peter19426 okay but i am

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

Another thing to keep in mind is that Chuggington’s engines had their faces as a part of the engine, even the steam engines (similar to some of the Diesels in the Railway Series). Most Thomas characters have grey faces that stand out from the rest of the engine

[@mikaylalyons6552]

They gotta get rid of Chuggington😊

[@mikaylalyons6552]

But if they keep continuing Chuggington, I’ll make a video on how I can destroy Chuggington toys when I buy them but they’re only in Japan so that’s bad

[@TheLazyFusspot_3428]

"Thomas was always the main character in the original show." RWS books: Are we a joke to you?

[@ZIOMEB256]

IN THE SHOW, i don't think the Railway Series counts as a television programme

[@nix-i3t]

I’ll always be a Thomas-stan, but growing up, I always respected Chugginton as its own thing. I appreciated both ways the shows told their stories. Can’t say the same nowadays though, because I’d rather binge Season 1 of Chugginton than watch a single HIT/Miller Era episode of T&F.

[@gabinatorproductions8979]

You know, it’s a little Ironic that Thomas & Friends never got a crossover with Chuggington despite them being “indirect parallel versions” of each other; that would have been nice though to see the Trainees meet the Number 1 engine of Sodor and his friends…

[@someonewhotalks]

This is the same way I view the whole Bob the Builder vs Handy Manny thing because they may look the same at first glance but when you take a look closer they’re so much different

[@sodorpro]

I’m going to be honest while initially ‘Chuggington’ took some inspiration from Thomas, I think one could make a better argument that Thomas ripped of ‘Chuggington’. From the bouncing engines, the faster pace, etc. I mean AEG essentially has their own version of Action Chugger. Though I think the concept is slightly better executed in AEG as the super hero has a super villain, while ‘Chuggington’ only has the super hero and no villain to contrast it. Honestly modern Thomas seems to be trying to be more like ‘Chuggington’, than ‘Chuggington’ ever tried to be like Thomas.

[@joshuaW5621]

To quote the captain in the Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists!: Well yes but actually no.

[@HIproductions-p6u]

“Dancing engines are stole from chugginton” Duncan:am ı a joke to you?

[@Dylan-cr2ip]

Chuggington wouldn't exist without Thomas, but All Engines Go probably wouldn't exist without Chuggington. Also Kana is a ripoff of Koko 100%

[@W4lmartbag]

Rubbish kana is not a rip off of koko pops

[@taufiqshah9480]

Really

[@PlayDontPause]

I feel like calling Chuggington a Thomas knock off is like saying As mash Bros is a rip-off of Street Fighter.

[@W4lmartbag]

Well smash bros is more original than street fighter 🤓☝️

[@PlayDontPause]

Certifiqued Originakl.

[@W4lmartbag]

@@PlayDontPause oh sh1t thank you for making me notice that spelling error ;-;

[@BEETH0VN_]

1:40 "The 2 mayors look pretty similar" *only similarity is their race*

[@Keaness]

You should give “Busy Buses” a watch. There’s one episode that really seems inspired by something hmmm.. A double decker bus getting stuck under a bridge? To take a short cut to pick up the passengers for the train.

[@gothnerd887]

I vaguely remember that show. I remember the mouth movements not quite looking right.

[@Keaness]

@@gothnerd887 a lot of it doesn’t look right haha!

[@garrettsmith2776]

⁠@@KeanessI blame the CGI not aging well, and the odd middle ground between static and lipsynced mouths the show tried to create. P.S. My 2 favorite episodes from that show are “Susan Goes Pink” and “Rick The Racing Bus”.

[@lillywho]

I find Chuggington to be odd for other reasons. The modern, hyperactive style of the show (Seriously, all those locos bouncing about and literally jumping on the tracks, a health and safety nightmare!) , which has been called into question whether it diminishes kids' attention spans, the very gimmicky aspects that seem like additions for the sake of selling toys, and the weird tracks which directly look like something from a toy train. The original intention of Thomas seemed to have been to be grounded in actual railways, rather than the flashy, more imaginary style of Chuggington.

[@InventorZahran]

This is true. Aside from a few wacky episodes during its weakest eras, Thomas generally felt like a show about real trains that just so happen to have faces. They still obey the laws of physics, run on realistic-looking track, and deal with challenges that real railways have historically encountered. Whereas Chuggington doesn't even try to have a semblance of realism! I'm not saying either one of these shows is better or worse. They're completely different things that appeal to different kinds of viewers. I'm glad the ADHD kids have something they can enjoy and relate to, but my tastes happen to have more in common with the autistic kids.

[@gothnerd887]

Scuse me for going all witchy but I think you're onto something; Thomas is built on lunar energy (realism, quiet, chill vibes) wheres Chuggington is Thomas's equal and opposite as shown by it's abundance of solar energy (loud, fast, bright, hyperactive). That's what's wrong with current kids shows, sun and moon need to work together and balance each other out. Sorry if I accidentally said something offensive or sounded a bit too crazy.

[@lillywho]

@@gothnerd887 Not everything can be explained with paganism, whelp.

[@FreighttrainDaniel1225]

Thanks for that as much as I’d go for Thomas over chuggington I still like both if that makes sense

[@mickeymouse-eb2qv]

To me it started as a ripoff but grew into it's own thing

[@coolkidconductor]

As someone who is both a thomas and friends fan and a chuggington fan. I think both shows are great. I feel like people should accept their differences as opposed to comparing them. Literally the only evidence they have is that they are both about talking trains. Neither of those shows own the rights to talking, sentient trains. Everything else is just inspiration from each other Another thing you forgot to mention is characters from thomas are meant to feel more realistic and need a driver and firemen to run. Chuggington characters feel more sentient and unrealistic being able to run on their own. But still I love both shows and chuggington really doesn’t deserve the hate that it does

[@JTRungarsamy77709]

1:14 fun fact: Wilson Brewster and koko and the same colours as the 3 main characters.thomas percy and james🟦🟥and 🟩

[@flyingtardisOfficial]

what's the piece of music in the background? legit sounds like a good bop to listen too when i need a pickmeup every so often :P

[@ThomasTheorist]

Chuggington danger or silly theme I think

[@ReeseDaniels]

'Chugginton copying Thomas & Friends' is like 'Friday the 13th copying Halloween'. In both cases, there was an original intention to base the newer franchise (Chuggington & Friday the 13th) on the existing one (Thomas & Friends & Halloween), however, as time went on, they both grew apart and became their own thing. Some fans nowadays even argue that Friday the 13th stole from Halloween, which isn't wrong, as it took inspiration the basis, but in depends on the direction where each franchise wants to go in. For the horror films, they both have a male serial killer that had trauma as a child, and is now seeking revenge for those who did them wrong and continue to do them wrong. In the talking trains, there are three main characters that venture out and have stories along the way. They are similar but also different. People can still argue about 'this' stealing 'that' but that's just from inspiration from others in creating (in some cases, but not all) better franchises.

[@adylim9969]

I don't think Chuggington is a ripoff of Thomas because they both have different islands like Chuggington is in Chuggington and Thomas is in Sodor. Plus, some episodes of Thomas borrowed Chuggington's idea to add in their episodes. And lastly,Thomas is basically focused on steam engines and Chuggington is basically focused on electric and diesel engines (although it has some steam engines).

[@ryanfuller912]

We need a Chuggington movie featuring Thomas and Friends but they are models again and act like their true selves.

[@bigtrainguythore]

1:26 LOL 🤣

[@Fvince]

What, Thomas has a single story shed well f**k that were gonna make a double story shed TAKE THAT THOMAS - Dick 2024

[@Nazarefendy-i1s]

What episode and season is Thomas Old Town in? Or what's the title?

[@Trainsandanimationstv]

You forgot to mention how in the Marvelous Machinery special, Gordon had a magnet stuck to him which turned him into a magnet HMMMMMMMMM now what was THAT based off of?

[@wolfzillaproductions4563]

Nobody can convince me that Gordon with the magnet wasn’t a jab at Wilson getting magnetized by the crane car. It would’ve been even funnier if it had happened to Harrison instead of Wilson XD

[@Jayhsia1215]

As Chuggington and Thomas and friends fan they are my fav

[@coolkidconductor]

Same. Why can’t people just accept both of them as good shows as opposed to comparing them

[@weloveteddy]

I try to watch your videos as early as possible as I can

[@ryanfuller912]

The late Thomas and Friends ripped off Chuggington, which is how it turned horrible.

[@Heavy_weapons07]

This kinda like the overwatch vs tf2 "war", basically the thomas fan saw chuggington series and at the state they were in with tlhomas at the time, they kinda start some hate to it

[@harrisonallen651]

Thomas did poke fun at Chuggington in the later years

[@gothnerd887]

When?

[@harrisonallen651]

@@gothnerd887 clearly around 2013

[@TheStickCollector]

I think i remember watching it. At least somewhat It is clearly different. I also loved geotrax as a kid so there's also that. Not the same idea but a train show nonetheless

[@Jediah-s6p]

Why did you reupload

[@thebatterymill]

We have plenty of superhero shows, pirate shows, action franchises, so why not two different talking engine series

[@DavidMartinez-uv9qy]

Do the fastest characters from Thomas and Friends and Chuggington to who's faster than

[@stinkystevey2030]

I dont know why but i compare old town to the mid sodor.due to being abandoned and have old engines that were preserved and a bunch of unseen engines that were sold of to a diffrent railway

[@EthanTheEngine7]

the font choice.... 🤓☝️

[@RobRepass-l9g]

Wilson from Chuggington looks like he’s an F7 train locomotive

[@jaanshersaeed4541]

Well there’s no bad engine characters here in Chuggington like Thomas so that’s something that definitely wasn’t taken though there was Mr. Simpkins who was a jerk (I haven’t seen much Chuggington since I was a kid so I wouldn’t have the best judgement here)

[@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967]

It would be nice if Chuggington got chugger antagonists or villains in it like Thomas to spice things up a bit for fun.

[@jaanshersaeed4541]

⁠Well of course people want everyone in kids shows to be all nice happy go lucky and getting along with everything sunshine and rainbows rather than showing not everyone is very kind and can be bad just like the RWS and T&F have shown

[@Salty_notthediesel]

I feel like thomas fans just look at it and then shake their head. You really have to watch the show to see the true beauty of it, it is a good show. (And i hate how they act like thomas was the first ever talking train show)

[@Deccy-doughnuts]

Hi love the vids❤

[@toby.fan9198]

1:58 except Great Waterton with restored, wearas the old town of Chuggington is still left rotting to this day

[@robbycastelli6486]

Olwin is my favorite character from Chuggington because I made her into Spencer from Thomas friends all the time

[@TheCreepersGood]

“What about the two mayors? They look pretty similar!” woah there buddy

[@emersoninfinitystone5785]

70% knockoff, 30% original is the safest bet to call Chuggington.

[@JahveinEllis]

I used to watch Chuggington on Treehouse and sometimes on Disney Junior

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

Honestly, I did like Chuggington because one of the characters was named "Harrison", and since my name was Harrison, and it was about trains, I would watch Chuggington a bit on the TV as a kid. But I don't think Chuggington is a Thomas ripoff.

[@SymbioteMullet]

Hmm, since you're doing comparisons of talking train media, have you ever seen Robot Trains? It's a Korean cgi cartoon that's a rough mix of transformers, dragonball, and Trains. My son absolutely loves it, it replaced Thomas for him completely. Just be prepared for massive tonal whiplash between season 1 and 2.

[@unaizilla]

this is essentially a "Kimba did it before" scenario, like if you don't know anything about the shows you might think Chuggington is a ripoff just because talking trains, but once you watch both shows and compare them you'll notice how different they are

[@mpowell4030]

I honestly like Chuggington (not as much as Thomas of course), and I even have my own AU of it too.

[@teatime4me_now]

Both of them are my fav❤

[@-herdeleyno1-8636]

Next make a video talking about Titipo Titipo

[@SuperMarioLoudHouse]

I’ve always preferred Thomas over Chuggington, and it’s not even beyond remotely close.

[@AndrisBiedrins-ks9kh]

2:09 LNER class A4. not 4.

[@FriedWafflez8208]

I think chuggington and Thomas' differences are displayed through their worlds. Sodor is basically a real railway minus the faces on the machines, while chuggington-ville is a more sci-fi, almost utopian kinda city, with all the sky high and underground architecture. Using your adhd and autism point, the shows worlds' look like they were designed by children with those (disorders?)

[@ZIOMEB256]

I never saw chuggington as a Thomas rip-off personally, neither as a child nor as i grew up, not even when i learned of DICK and his intentions of making the show. First of all, it being a show about talking trains didn't say much, as you said, Thomas didn't invent talking trains, it's like saying that Pixar's CARS is a rip off of the 1952 Disney short "Susie The Little Blue Coupe" just because they're both about sentient Cars, and because the creator of CARS had some inspiration from that short (atleast i heard so). Second, Chuggington just never had a vibe to me like Thomas did, Chuggington is much moure bouncy, energetic and colorful, while Thomas is (or was) famously among the fans much more in touch with the rules of the real world, and, maybe not all, but many seasons were slower and more peaceful, so Chuggington, even with it's feel, isn't that similar to Thomas. Of course there were slower episodes like "Outward Bound Olwin", or "Old Puffer Pete's Tour", but generally, there is always something going on. Thank you so so much for making the retrospective, it's a fair critique of the series as it's own thing, while not comparing it to Thomas too much, and keeping T&F not so forced into the picture, but not completely kicking it out either. I'd also like to add one more "coincidence" from Chuggington: in the episode "Training Time Harrison", Harrison pulls The King's Passenger Car, and the plot of the episode itself is pretty diffrent from "Paint Pots & Queens", but isn't it suspicious that HARRISON, the GORDON like character, gets to pull, A ROYAL PASSENGER CAR, JUST LIKE GORDON WHO GOT TO PULL THE ROYAL TRAIN????? THE IDEA OF HARRISON REDEEMING HIMSELF FOR THE JOB ALSO SEEMS SIMILAR TO GORDON REDEEMING HIMSELF HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Ok that one is pretty suspicious though. Loved the vid man, have a great day 👍

[@ConnerCJ2012]

I'm not very familiar with Chuggington; I don't recall watching it a lot growing up. But I never saw it as a ripoff of Thomas. Thomas maybe the most popular piece of media involving talking trains, but it certainly isn't the first example, and even if it was, I still consider the concept too basic to make any similar work afterwards a ripoff. It's like calling Godzilla a ripoff of King Kong because they're both giant monster movies. Also, I wouldn't really say Thomas was ripping off Chugginton due to getting bouncier and cartoonier overtime either, seeing as cartoony trains have existed even before Thomas did. Chuggington might've influenced the direction Thomas would eventually undertake, given its popularity, but saying it was ripped off sounds like a stretch.

[@Lunamadison1]

That old abandoned town in thomas is found they rebuilt it in the great discovery

[@pastimaskot4660]

is that pullmann coach

[@SPG69]

My stance on this argument: If we are calling Chugginton a Thomas ripoff Than would that make Theodore Tugboat a ripoff of Tugs? I rest my case your honor…

[@mmik5480]

I remember watching it when i was 5 years old and i also watched thomas

[@damianhendriks6162]

Chuggington has a two-sided engine, and Thomas has a two-sided engine.

[@Gideon_the_Video_game_railfan]

I watched Chuggington when I was a kid

[@Stiono-1]

the two mayors look pretty similar💀

[@QrittneyWashington]

Thomas and Chuggington is like the Simpsons and family guy

[@DrMold13]

Not in negative way, but you said, that Thomas didn't invent talking trains, then who did it? Who was first?

[@benysamson5800]

Lightning McQueen, lol just kidding

[@DrMold13]

@@benysamson5800 I see that it's a joke, but Cars movie came out way more recently than Thomas books were written so I really think that they were the 1st who invented talking trains.

[@superyoshibrosjgplush7671]

I don't think that Chuggington is a rip-off of Thomas & Friends. While the concept is similar having anthropomorphic train characters. The main engines have different personalities, which being a bit more child like, and even though I prefer Thomas & Friends. Chuggington is still a great show imo. Also the railroad is more electronic in comparison to T&F.🚂🛤🚆

[@TheEerieMaster]

Mega Blocks VS Lego... 😐 All I have to say (You can watch Chuggington, I really don't care. Personally... It makes my head hurt. But that's just me)

[@LBSC70]

In my opinion chuggington was sort of a rip off because they creator wanted to basically one up Thomas and Friends with some aspects being a little similar

[@jacobamoako4546]

i don't even need to see this video and i already know which side i'm on team thomas forever

[@HeleniaPorter-Greer]

knock offs are even worst 😂

[@toby.fan9198]

I don’t see this show as a rip off of Thomas. I can see it as its own thing. There are plenty of other train shows out there, and they arn’t considered Thomas ripoffs, so why should this show be any different.

[@Pvz-p9g]

I love chucklington.

[@KianWesternRailway]

Why is chuggington called chuggington when it is based on diesels

[@liansang6173]

Look at hoot and toot. And look at mighty Mac

[@Gracell0]

While chuggington is growing, thomas is dying because of mattel stuff

[@glassowlie]

Yes it is as the company was founded by former HiT Entertainment CEOs.

[@DapperDuck63]

It was not a ripoff it was a warning

[@JoshProductions07]

If it wasn't for Thomas, Chuggington wouldn't exist. But then again, Chuggington has many differences. If Chuggington is a rip-off of Thomas, then by that logic Sonic is a rip-off of Mario.

[@i.m.nick.]

1:40 literally the only similarity they have is their skin color.

[@Keeperofthelostmiraculous]

All I can say is Mattel....

[@robbycastelli6486]

Thomas restored a town and chuggington didn’t

[@toby.fan9198]

1:53 I think thomas’ ice cream factory is more cream than yellow

[@King_Kavin25]

yay im the 30th viewer! (theres like +10 views every second)

[@mispinchergamings3470]

Eh little but Thomas more kick off at this point. Can see this by new art but this better.

[@Ryleyandfriends292]

Thomas the Tank Engine Came First

[@taufiqshah9480]

I don't like the new thomas. What's make thomas a good show are those classic model series.

[@Nic_2751]

The only real criticism here is you call your show Chuggington despite the fact the main characters are clearly oily horn honking diesels…..

[@newversionofRoblox]

NOOÒOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOÒ THOMAS

[@Bendy-b8f]

Thomas real Chuggington rip off

[@AustinCannon-n7s]

at the end it looks like they rippde of lady

[@lowfurts]

Early people WYA?

[@JesusGarcia-zx4yf]

❤

[@JourneyLT]

Chuggington is a ripoff of Thomas in the same way Star Wars is a ripoff of Star Trek.

[@Henrythegreenengine-f2v]

Condition is of course is a rip of Thomas literally

[@gothnerd887]

I can't understand a word your saying

[@Zenon-x3h]

Y think Thomas and friends is more best because thomas haves human face and hes friends to

[@gabrielacostescu1364]

I know Dunbar is a Noor Jehan knockoff

[@carmengeorge354]

I like thomas

[@Toysonicandfriends2]

Chuggington is garbage to me

[@TrainParkLand]

No It's Not

[@Saadan-1]

Yes

[@Saadan-1]

@@TrainParkLandyes it is Thomas was made into a show in 1984

[@TrainParkLand]

@@Saadan-1 I know that but I Love Thomas the Tank engine And friends, Chuggington and Every Vehicles Shows.

[@lnerj50productions32]

chuggington also copied alll the tjomas merchandise ramges