CIA Operative Andrew Bustamante | PBD Podcast | Ep. 180

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@tj1470
@tj1470 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Patrick makes a point of not asking the same questions as so many other interviewers. Out of all the podcasts Andrews been on, this has been the most different. Great job guys
@ibbgolf
@ibbgolf Жыл бұрын
Precisely. I fucking love PBD. I’m a nobody and don’t have much at 24. But man I have a desire to do something, soon. And PBD is one a few who truly inspires me. Andy is one also. Kobe. But there’s a opportunity for all. I work for a vending company now and getting interact daily with all types of people and in sales situation and in good and bad communication situations… and I have decided it’s molding me for my future. We all have greatness and so thankful for KZbin and for people applying themselves and being themselves so I have people to learn from and apply their strengths and weaknesses to my brain and use it as I see fit. Do our best, right? God bless.
@jayvilla5985
@jayvilla5985 Жыл бұрын
This guy is a hell of a speaker. No wonder the CIA tasked him with this media relations job. He’s honestly great at it.
@MrPedroBranquinho
@MrPedroBranquinho Жыл бұрын
😂
@billbradleymusic
@billbradleymusic Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@scorch4299
@scorch4299 Жыл бұрын
thats what CIA is - gift of gab people....not necessarily smart, but they can convince people to do things because what theyre saying sounds good.
@BeerBreath702
@BeerBreath702 Жыл бұрын
Lol well I’m glad they did. He has some amazing interviews. I just started this one so I’ll see how I judge this one soon.
@robertperez3736
@robertperez3736 Жыл бұрын
Yea this dude been making the rounds
@j.j.meierz1066
@j.j.meierz1066 Жыл бұрын
When CIA guy becomes a professional podcast guest he is just in another phase of his career
@tailwind12
@tailwind12 Жыл бұрын
i retired after 25yrs serving our nation. i then worked or DoS and DoD in the middle east, iraq/afghanistan. i had my security clearance. i rand hot missions in Afghanistan. i was not "static" personnel. the 2-3 guys i knew well. i mean well from the "embassy" doing high level (HVT) work like andy claims to have done. 2 are now retired. so they are like 20yrs older than andy. both live overseas--friendly nations to the US. both of them would but a bullet in their own head before speaking so openly like andy does and others. he goes on an on: training, vetting, courses, agency mindset, agency policy, what they "look for", training policy's and on and on and "on". bustamante is not the only one. there are others actually much worse. shawn ryan show, team-house, julian dorey. i mean shawn ryan does this "man" cave with leather chair, bar and like it is a "one on one" talk with nobody else listening. but it is on YT. simply do not get it...every top "guy" feels like he has to spill his soul on YT for some reason. and no, just because you are not speaking about specfic, actual missions does not mean you are not "spilling" INTEL. i mean and they do this for hours and hours. then go to another podcast and hours and hours. never to shut up. simply do not understand it. they want to...and "good" for them.
@macsoccer2012
@macsoccer2012 Жыл бұрын
@@tailwind12and do you think that comes from a difference in age? Difference in how they were brought up through the organization compared to say yourself and your colleague?
@tailwind12
@tailwind12 Жыл бұрын
@@macsoccer2012 I don't know. I don't have enough information to make a determination or "call". what I do know is that for decades and decades nobody from these agencies spoke so freely and openly... especially with a video audio in front of them. As I said possibly this generation service agency and Nation means I do it for five years and then I go sell the information on KZbin talk-shows a book a T-shirt and a consulting firm. my view it's wrong.. I finded unbecoming, immature and.."they" talk too much.
@macsoccer2012
@macsoccer2012 Жыл бұрын
@@tailwind12 Decades ago, we didn't have social media. We had media that was heavily controlled and influenced. Perhaps social media is being used by more now because there is less of a barrier to entry and less suspicion.
@johnalexander7457
@johnalexander7457 Жыл бұрын
@@tailwind12genuine question, you say “serving our nation” what the hell did you do to serve the US? Interfering in foreign politics doesn’t count as serving the US.. I guarantee you won’t respond to this. Either you aren’t an actual CIA member… or if you are I’d love to hear from you.
@ellaenchanting333
@ellaenchanting333 Жыл бұрын
I never heard of this guy before and suddenly he is on EVERY podcast and show on KZbin. He is definitely still working for the CIA.
@tkhsu9092
@tkhsu9092 Жыл бұрын
100% , it's different form of pr warfare
@davidlester7066
@davidlester7066 Жыл бұрын
Its a serious crime to impersonate a CIA agent there is no way he would be all over YT
@aperez4501
@aperez4501 Жыл бұрын
he has interviews over 5 yrs old on here, before the hair, before he lost weight
@LuciferArc1
@LuciferArc1 Жыл бұрын
​@@davidlester7066 not if that's the job. If his job is PR as a supposed former cia agent then no
@Lenore4Evermore
@Lenore4Evermore Жыл бұрын
It's not like he is going to tell us the truth ...:) lol
@Intense_Realism
@Intense_Realism Жыл бұрын
Andy using his love for the country to come across as non-threatening 😂
@Dream-bebe
@Dream-bebe 8 ай бұрын
Lol😊
@chiefswife1212
@chiefswife1212 5 ай бұрын
Total narcissist 😂😂😂😂
@ImGoingSupersonic
@ImGoingSupersonic Ай бұрын
Right, what a joke.
@rjthomasindyusa
@rjthomasindyusa 2 жыл бұрын
The whole time I'm watching this.... I'm thinking..... "Is this guy telling us what he really thinks.... or is he telling us what he wants us to hear?".
@Rogershijianhui
@Rogershijianhui 2 жыл бұрын
The later
@10X-Trivia-Sean
@10X-Trivia-Sean 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, there has to be an NDA or something equivalent he's agreed to
@nicholashayden8319
@nicholashayden8319 2 жыл бұрын
He's been on a press tour. This is the third podcast I've seen him on in the past 2 weeks... I'm guessing this is the new job.
@DeBoner13
@DeBoner13 2 жыл бұрын
That’s called critical thinking and you’re supposed to do it with everything you hear or read
@bydefault7795
@bydefault7795 2 жыл бұрын
Tim Dillon is 100 percent a CIA operator. It’s the only explanation. Am I right?
@nibblerock
@nibblerock 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this interview, I am confident that Andy still works for the CIA.
@bradleyboyer9979
@bradleyboyer9979 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Very disappointing character. He claimed not to even know who Peter "Stroke" is.
@12235117657598502586
@12235117657598502586 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyboyer9979 If he really is still CIA, then why would he?
@markdaniels4178
@markdaniels4178 Жыл бұрын
Well! What are you going to do about it
@Jeffthedude15
@Jeffthedude15 Жыл бұрын
@@markdaniels4178 get elected as president and this time not ride in an open top car, maybe
@ahmdf
@ahmdf Жыл бұрын
I see why you would say that and it's probably true... but the problem with this argument is that it's unfalsifiable.
@spicher40
@spicher40 2 жыл бұрын
He is absolutely still working for the cia in their public relations department
@3JS2001
@3JS2001 2 жыл бұрын
Really sounds like it lol
@abegtz9963
@abegtz9963 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t sound like it, he is 100% still working for them. You can tell the way he answers some of the questions.
@jeffmiller3499
@jeffmiller3499 2 жыл бұрын
@@abegtz9963 after listening to him & you still make assumptions like that with zero evidence says you didn't learn much.
@drake_leo2152
@drake_leo2152 2 жыл бұрын
No such thing as EX-CIA
@bleueyeddevl
@bleueyeddevl 2 жыл бұрын
him and Mike Baker.
@dawsonje
@dawsonje Жыл бұрын
By the way PBD. Former Company man here myself (2003-2014). There are no CIA “agents”.. it’s called officer. You have operations officers (OO) which are what civilians know as “spies”. Then you have collections management officers (CMO’s), they are the connection between the field OO’s and Langley. Both OO’s and CMO’s go to Camp Peary, the “Farm”. In every day life cmo’s tell the OO’s in the field what to collect intel on based on policy coming out of DC which is handed down by the Operations Directorate. I was recruited by a person, who was familiar with my background. A business connection. Had a great time, but it cost me a marriage.
@jade-d314
@jade-d314 5 ай бұрын
The first time I heard this guy speak last year, I could discern that he was either still working for the CIA, or at the very least, he was using his skills of deception. This interview solidified that perception for me. He's full of it.
@ImGoingSupersonic
@ImGoingSupersonic Ай бұрын
He ultimately at the end, sells those tired online courses for health and wealth etc.
@kkandola9072
@kkandola9072 3 күн бұрын
The real test is whether you can smell it on people who don’t publicly say “ I worked for the CIA”.
@momofthreeboys3133
@momofthreeboys3133 2 жыл бұрын
CIA does a good job infiltrating podcasts now. 😜
@stephaniestylianou2368
@stephaniestylianou2368 2 жыл бұрын
Lol you could be right
@libertymindsetlucy6010
@libertymindsetlucy6010 2 жыл бұрын
🤔
@Deestroyer82
@Deestroyer82 2 жыл бұрын
Word.
@someguy7046
@someguy7046 2 жыл бұрын
Recruiting drive
@michaelwhardy1908
@michaelwhardy1908 2 жыл бұрын
IT'S AMAZING THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT IF THE C.I.A WERE TO INFILTRATE CERTAIN PODCASTS...... THAT THEY WOULD DO IT BY SENDING SOMEONE WHO TELLS YOU THAT THEY'RE FROM THE C.I.A....... JUST RETIRED..... YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE C.I.A AND THEY'RE TACTICS..... LONG STORY SHORT.... THEY WOULDN'T SEND ANYONE AT ALL.... THEY DON'T NEED TO 🙄
@dockennedy8091
@dockennedy8091 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate a anyone who can blow smoke as eloquently as Andy.
@skitzcunt4213
@skitzcunt4213 2 жыл бұрын
if i wanted smoke blown up my ass id be at home with a cigarette and a short length of hose
@kennymacdowell1257
@kennymacdowell1257 Жыл бұрын
Massive amounts of smoke.
@terrystroble8657
@terrystroble8657 2 жыл бұрын
Retired? I call BS. This guy is still on the payroll as a PR guy to try and humanize the agency.
@Bone89
@Bone89 Жыл бұрын
That doesn’t make any sense. They want to stay in the dark as much as possible. They don’t want any part of accountability
@SassanMedia
@SassanMedia Жыл бұрын
You retards think because he doesn’t bash CIA and explains the reasons how/why things happen in real life that this makes him a liar and PR person. Low IQ, low information person right there
@DB-pp7kj
@DB-pp7kj Жыл бұрын
Based and red pilled.
@sobc2737
@sobc2737 Жыл бұрын
@@Bone89 Such a glib way of thinking. OP is on to something that makes sense.
@Bone89
@Bone89 Жыл бұрын
@@sobc2737 I would agree with that if I was 10 years younger. I have look at things a little deeper now. Actually practice not overthinking. I also have a better understanding than I did then. I could see his argument if it was the FBI. Or ATF. Not CIA. He’s out on tour making as much he can. He never says anything, which is understandable. The CIA gains no benefit to be seen in a better light. It’s their advantage to appear secretive, powerful, assholes. That’s my opinion. Glib or not. I won’t put any trust in any of them or much thought til lobbying is illegal
@gcoffey223
@gcoffey223 Жыл бұрын
This was the best light I have seen this guy in. Well done PT, great interview.
@kd7100
@kd7100 Жыл бұрын
….”Tyler we can hear you type..” 😂😭… I really don’t know why, but that shit was funny as hell LoL
@seanflynn781
@seanflynn781 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I like Patrick, because he's been through the shit growing up in Iran, watched Khamenei, and when he says "the government is bullying people," it's true.
@alvarezgamers
@alvarezgamers 2 жыл бұрын
Andy is the most non assuming dude. Perfect for the CIA. Makes you believe he is your friend and comfortable.
@FierybutMostlyPeacefulSara
@FierybutMostlyPeacefulSara Жыл бұрын
15:00
@leehess6335
@leehess6335 Жыл бұрын
Def he’s one of those men that could fit in so many places in the world and everything is CIA spy lol 👍👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@VaporeonEnjoyer1
@VaporeonEnjoyer1 Жыл бұрын
He's 100% still CIA. Why is this "ex-cia" guy popping up on so many podcasts all of a sudden? It's because the mainstream media no longer needs to hide the fact that they employee CIA members.
@mjrowden
@mjrowden Жыл бұрын
Hence why he was CIA 🤷🏼‍♂️
@anthonyvenegas8299
@anthonyvenegas8299 Жыл бұрын
He sticks out like a sore thumb
@hannibal6173
@hannibal6173 2 жыл бұрын
Factor! I lived in Aruba for almost a year and when he said you get an appreciation for the US! I felt that!
@yanira7444
@yanira7444 Жыл бұрын
PBD asks the best questions! So smart! ❤️
@Yolk-q1o
@Yolk-q1o 6 ай бұрын
Can't believe it's 2024 and PBD was in on this guy early on. This is one of the best pod casts with Andrew.
@shayisrael6137
@shayisrael6137 2 жыл бұрын
I find it very hard to believe that this guy has never heard of project veritas if he's so well informed
@800iq2
@800iq2 2 жыл бұрын
I don't either. Especially when they are the most notorious for leaking private confessions. This would be on every operatives radar
@bape520
@bape520 2 жыл бұрын
He was being sarcastic
@pedrogama4585
@pedrogama4585 2 жыл бұрын
shay Israel ....OF COURSE he has heard of Project Veritas, he LIED !
@bradleyboyer9979
@bradleyboyer9979 2 жыл бұрын
This guy was very disappointing, in general. He didn't even know who Pete "Stroke" is.
@robertstcyr5385
@robertstcyr5385 2 жыл бұрын
@@800iq2 if 35g4
@jcwat
@jcwat 2 жыл бұрын
47:42 is the reason why I feel this guy still works for the CIA. Relatable, ethnic, says he's an average Joe every chance he gets. Positive PR and talks with trigger words every chance he gets of why the CIA is "NEEDED" and any methods they use is therefore required.
@jorgeencarnacion6291
@jorgeencarnacion6291 Жыл бұрын
What a time to be alive
@Random_Patriot
@Random_Patriot Жыл бұрын
100% So very true. It clear.
@dominysynclair
@dominysynclair 2 жыл бұрын
Andy's lying about not knowing O'Keefe and Veritas, but he's not really trying to hide it.
@4390100
@4390100 2 жыл бұрын
Oh it's typical alright, the CIA has a huge tendency not to say anything about what they don't want you to know, put that onto the lie factor.
@800iq2
@800iq2 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. He wasn't genuinely surprised at the sound of their name. Gave a calm cover but it got through he put up an act to keep himself composed to feign ignorance and stave off further questions about them
@davidemery4759
@davidemery4759 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and his position on Meta’s approach and Apple not willing to give up data is concerning. I’ve never had a good feeling about this guy. Same goes for Mike Baker
@JTSeneca
@JTSeneca Жыл бұрын
He is a lefty and his mission is promoting the political left. He even used the worned out term "conspiracy" which even the MSM do not use anymore. Regarding project veritas, if he do not know them, he is the worst CIA operative ever in CIA history. 😅 what a joker....
@jessarhodes6196
@jessarhodes6196 Жыл бұрын
Im new to this podcast but the first few discussions ive seen have been top notch. PBD asks great questions.
@BamaDad
@BamaDad Жыл бұрын
This is hands down one of the most interesting interviews I have ever watched! Mr. Bet David you have done a fantastic job. I just love being able to sit and listen to 2 great minds working through such difficult topics with such microscopic pathology. The mind got some much needed exercise watching this!
@kristinewhitfield4110
@kristinewhitfield4110 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is definitely still employed. I was really convinced when he set a trusted CNN coverage 85% of the time and it’s ironic that Anderson Cooper was ex CIA lol so he definitely protecting his friends.
@BristolBerg
@BristolBerg 2 жыл бұрын
Interning on your sophomore year of college does not equate to ex-CIA. What type low IQ take is that lol
@elchinoguerito8915
@elchinoguerito8915 2 жыл бұрын
@@BristolBerg I know right. People just love believing they have it all figured out
@kyle6781
@kyle6781 2 жыл бұрын
@@BristolBerg that's whT they would allow the public to know.. it would be to obvious if it was known he was fully employed or set up to do the media
@stephenmullenax4522
@stephenmullenax4522 2 жыл бұрын
BecUse all operators are public and you can look it all up lol it’s always the dummies talking about IQ
@stephenmullenax4522
@stephenmullenax4522 2 жыл бұрын
Also CNN has BEEN 100% fabricated trash from the beginning
@eleganz
@eleganz 2 жыл бұрын
The fact a former CIA field agent hates Apple for not giving up a users phone (even if its a suspected terrorist) actually makes me trust Apple more and the CIA even less.
@eltocayo87
@eltocayo87 2 жыл бұрын
Switching from Android to Apple.
@bradleyboyer9979
@bradleyboyer9979 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. This guy is still a shill.
@timwingers
@timwingers 2 жыл бұрын
Apple just gave Hillary her own TV show. I'd still trust them less than the CIA
@eltocayo87
@eltocayo87 2 жыл бұрын
@@timwingers damn you are right.
@ryanhollenbeck5617
@ryanhollenbeck5617 Жыл бұрын
You have any trust in the CIA still. That shit left me about 2 yrs working at F.E Warren AFB out in the Missile Alert Facilities. Had to have a top secret security clearance just to be out there. Saw some shit that was extremely scary and or creepy. To know the CIA was getting some of those missileers in and of itself is fuckin scary.
@yurielcundangan9090
@yurielcundangan9090 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody who saw what transpired to this country then still votes Democrats is beyond HOPE
@rh81454
@rh81454 2 жыл бұрын
The right has to stop sounding like a bunch of knuckle draggers. Go more towards the middle. Stop elevating crazies like Gaetz, MTG, Gosar, and Trump. Get DeSantis-Youngkin for 2024 ticket.
@jordanstickl2295
@jordanstickl2295 2 жыл бұрын
@@rh81454 the middle republicans vote for things like aid to Ukraine, red flag laws, vaccine mandates….no thanks!
@rh81454
@rh81454 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanstickl2295 when did they vote for vaccine mandates and how many Republicans populist vote for Ukraine aide?
@rh81454
@rh81454 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanstickl2295 and red flag laws?
@EricDgg
@EricDgg 2 жыл бұрын
Adam?
@justinysmith8194
@justinysmith8194 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this conversation!!! I learned alot!! Thank God for a site that conducted such a frank, and respectful conversation between highly intelligent human beings. No dogs in the fight.... just logic and statistics as well as the anecdotal evidence 🙏All done wanting the best for America!!! Well done, gentlemen!!! Patriots all around!!
@dayoftherope6591
@dayoftherope6591 Жыл бұрын
If you watching this, grab sunglasses. The glow from this dude is hard on the eyes. “Former agent”
@mikehunt7360
@mikehunt7360 5 ай бұрын
What does that mean
@hectormontelongo8011
@hectormontelongo8011 2 жыл бұрын
The way he had to think about how many years he’s been out for, tells me he’s still in.
@kristinewhitfield4110
@kristinewhitfield4110 2 жыл бұрын
Good catch, I overlooked that but the fact he played dumb on very well known people and organizations, he’s definitely still in.
@cheesedoodle2327
@cheesedoodle2327 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that was hilarious
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
@@kristinewhitfield4110 I would guess when you're in that line of work, you can never really be 'out', simply by virtue of the tremendous amount of secret info you have to keep for yourself.
@DownToImpress
@DownToImpress 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Pat called him out on the media covering up things and possibly affected elections.
@TheCaptainSlappy
@TheCaptainSlappy 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Peanut Butter David is stretching for relevancy and botnet can only float him so much. He has to lean hard into the troofer grift because of rubes & fish he needs to hock product to. He never had Andrew on to ask relevant real world questions or to learn/discuss anything, he had him on to promote himself as a real media outlet (which he obviously isn't). That's why Peanut Butter deals only in surface issues in this and talks so much, but says so little.
@TheCaptainSlappy
@TheCaptainSlappy 2 жыл бұрын
@@staticsiege Hey Ivan. Remember when you report back to the IRA warehouse, that you got your (You) posting quota for today.
@TheCaptainSlappy
@TheCaptainSlappy 2 жыл бұрын
@@staticsiege Okay Ivanovich.
@PolishBehemoth
@PolishBehemoth 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaptainSlappy i have no idea what your first reply just said. How did you learn english?
@TheCaptainSlappy
@TheCaptainSlappy 2 жыл бұрын
@@PolishBehemoth Take your time. As you stated, you are too stupid to understand basic english. You will get with practice. Words are hard, right?
@TheScorpioTechno
@TheScorpioTechno 2 жыл бұрын
Pat, I work in Law Enforcement and I sent you an email to potentially interview retired Sergeant Scott REITZ - LAPD. Any chance you could look into him. Very interesting character, super smart and would probably fit perfect for one of your guests. BTW this was a great podcast as usual. All the best man.
@VisionClearly
@VisionClearly 2 жыл бұрын
Hope this interview happens.
@choossuck7653
@choossuck7653 2 жыл бұрын
You watch Wayne
@joeysanchez2023
@joeysanchez2023 2 жыл бұрын
Hope Pat or his people are working on this.
@mysticseer19
@mysticseer19 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you (ScorpioTechno) interview Sgt.Scott Reitz and post it to KZbin yourself. I will watch it...
@joeysanchez2023
@joeysanchez2023 Жыл бұрын
@@mysticseer19 no one else will. We need Pat to do it. Then the eye balls will come.
@gabepeterson4420
@gabepeterson4420 Жыл бұрын
Best show yet. Hated to see it end. Love that you discussed real world topics with Andrew.
@rosepedemonte9877
@rosepedemonte9877 6 ай бұрын
I love this interview. I’m so glad you are interviewing him. He is so interesting.
@carajohnson9238
@carajohnson9238 2 жыл бұрын
From the moment he "didn't know Peter", you know he's blowing hot air...
@PuertoRicanBoi127
@PuertoRicanBoi127 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know who Peter is and I consider myself informed.
@smokelord2002
@smokelord2002 Жыл бұрын
Why because you are mad he doesn't confirm your echo chamber?
@jelvin1845
@jelvin1845 Жыл бұрын
You know Andy knows his shit when Patrick said I feel comfortable with you around my kids and inviting you to my house …. Andy is A smooth operator …… great interview learned a lot … today …
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
He is a smooth operative.
@michaelwhardy1908
@michaelwhardy1908 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I LOVE PATRICK'S INTERVIEWING STYLE.....HE ASKS THE QUESTIONS THAT EDUCATED INDIVIDUALS WANT ASNSWERS TO, AND HE WILL PRESS THE GUESTS TO ACTUALLY ANSWER THE SHIT IN A REAL WAY, TO WHERE THEY'RE FORCED TO GIVE A REAL ANSWER
@VisionClearly
@VisionClearly 2 жыл бұрын
In the 2nd hour, PBD, turned up the screws, and the interview became fascinating as AB had to bob-and-weave.
@willbyrne3137
@willbyrne3137 Жыл бұрын
The podcaster has an agenda and it was rough for a bit there. Major bias
@MichaelLabriola-f8s
@MichaelLabriola-f8s Ай бұрын
Just a fascinating guest who is interesting on all podcasts. Great job men.
@JoeyP322
@JoeyP322 Ай бұрын
This dude is golden! Definitely someone I would love to have a few drinks with… awesome interview
@stvclay1
@stvclay1 2 жыл бұрын
The guy is very articulate intelligent but definitely is the cia’s image pr frontman to try show them in a positive spin but definitely has a democrat agenda which is the CIA leadership now. I will say in Bustamante interview with Lex Friedman over the Ukrainian Russia war is the best current explication I have come across. I like the guy but definitely represents the agency which I can’t be mad at because he is loyal to the cause.
@yurielcundangan9090
@yurielcundangan9090 2 жыл бұрын
Billboards for Assange is a fantastic idea. HIGHLY encourage it! We stand beind you. FREE Assange
@gavinduncan2360
@gavinduncan2360 2 ай бұрын
What about Barry Seal
@abegtz9963
@abegtz9963 2 жыл бұрын
Still working for them, 100%.
@mannycruz699
@mannycruz699 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. Blessings
@greggutierrez1305
@greggutierrez1305 7 ай бұрын
Proximity is power. His job as a busboy put him in the proximity of people who had influence and he took advantage of that.
@roberthume3079
@roberthume3079 2 жыл бұрын
I had a great deal of respect for Andrew and was fascinated by him until I really started listening to him more. In this episode he said DOJ is a member of the Judicial branch. DOJ is a member of the Executive branch. I don't know how someone in the CIA could not only make that mistake, but he carried on with it.
@MrViper1330
@MrViper1330 2 жыл бұрын
Dsmn gomie people make mistakes
@BlackMan614
@BlackMan614 2 жыл бұрын
He did say he was a C student at the AFA.
@gps9715
@gps9715 Жыл бұрын
Good catch. That is strange.
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
I'll give you a hint : He probably doesn't want you to think he knows as much as he actually does.
@metalkicker23
@metalkicker23 Жыл бұрын
@@rigelb9025 doesn't make sense, because he's TOLD you he's ex CIA op, which an ex CIA op would know about the branches.. So what you said doesn't actually apply or make sense in this situation. It's like if Albert Einstein went undercover as a maths teacher.. and gets 2+2 wrong because he "doesn't want to reveal what he actually knows". It doesn't apply. Because any maths teacher should know what 2+2 is. Just as any CIA would know about the branches. So it would not be applicable for him to pretend to not know something, that he SHOULD know, based off what he already told you he does.
@capitalistwire
@capitalistwire 2 жыл бұрын
If you listen to the laptop repairman’s dozens of interviews, he says Hunter had to write down his laptop login and PW or he couldn’t help him- standard protocol. He even made comments that Hunters PW was not friendly to repeat in front of a podcast / radio audience.
@debramartin1583
@debramartin1583 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, although was disappointed the guest wasn't more informed on some things that were common knowledge. For instance, he didn't know who Peter Strozk was or about Project Veritas. For someone of his intellect he showed a surprising lack of knowledge about some troubling issues we are having with the FBI.
@faith4freedom76
@faith4freedom76 2 жыл бұрын
*Entertainment
@rh81454
@rh81454 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares about project veritas or Peter? Those are your interests, not his.
@debramartin1583
@debramartin1583 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously Pat was interested or he wouldn't have mentioned them.
@deico4204
@deico4204 2 жыл бұрын
Project veritas?? haha buddy aside of your echo chamber nobody cares/knows.
@Randsurfer
@Randsurfer 2 жыл бұрын
He knows. He's a fraud.
@Ziad-d1z
@Ziad-d1z 8 ай бұрын
Great JOB PBD team - thank YOU
@Mr50403
@Mr50403 Жыл бұрын
This dude is the best CIA recuriter.
@Gigi1111Layna
@Gigi1111Layna Жыл бұрын
That's what he's here for. Yep.
@realestateunplugged6129
@realestateunplugged6129 2 жыл бұрын
"The market cannot bully the Americam PEOPLE, but the government CAN bully the American PEOPLE." -PBD
@smokelord2002
@smokelord2002 Жыл бұрын
Lmao....yeah right.
@realestateunplugged6129
@realestateunplugged6129 Жыл бұрын
@@smokelord2002 I get where you're coming from man. But think about it, in general as the rule, when the government places price or payment minimums what is the effect?
@smokelord2002
@smokelord2002 Жыл бұрын
@@realestateunplugged6129 the same as when corporations do the same or jack prices or manipulate the "free market" to their will? I fear corporations way more than the govt at this point to be frank.
@smokelord2002
@smokelord2002 Жыл бұрын
@@realestateunplugged6129 also, every commodity market we have, has at one point been manipulated or inorganically inflated by corporations at some point. That's far worse than any interest rate hike and such.
@realestateunplugged6129
@realestateunplugged6129 Жыл бұрын
@@smokelord2002 Absolutely man. Agreed. But uh, you have to be careful of government manipulation as well. Back in the 70s the "government" got rid of US Oil and outsourced it to the middle east, Russia, Venezuela, and others like Canada and Mexico too. I love our neighbors, but why the hell did we allow the world's #1 cash dollar industry to leave our people??? As if we have so much money we're all rich and can throw it out to the Russians and Middle Eastern princes, etcetera. Both Republican and democrats are dirty. They take bribes and foreign accounts to screw us over. My elders said the "government" and government authorized scientists told everyone in the US that we were almost out if oil reserves and needed to outsource it so we could save it for when the world's supply dried up. What a huge lie and they keep playing the same games over and over. But to your point, you are correct to be cautious of any free market salesman, but to my point at least a free market competition with free speech can out the truth eventually. We just have to be careful overall man. The government and big industry often teams up to create these hidden monopolies. It's illegal under our Constitution but they do illegal activity anyways.
@tigerbombster
@tigerbombster 2 жыл бұрын
Once a company man, always a company man
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
The Company of Illegitimate Antidotes tends to give lasting contracts to its staff. But in all seriousness, yes, I think his presence on so many podcasts and the content he delivers is to be interpreted on at least a few different levels of understanding.
@KhariConception
@KhariConception 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely respect PBD to the max! PBD and Lex are the best podcast hosts on KZbin for “thinkers” by far. Keep this content coming.
@LuisVelazquezLV3
@LuisVelazquezLV3 2 жыл бұрын
who is lex?
@MrDenjok
@MrDenjok 2 жыл бұрын
@@LuisVelazquezLV3 lex fridman
@nibblerock
@nibblerock 2 жыл бұрын
lol Lex doesn't hold a candle to PBD. Not even close.
@KhariConception
@KhariConception 2 жыл бұрын
@@nibblerock I can agree. I mentioned him because of the topics he covers.
@plastifiedmetal5682
@plastifiedmetal5682 2 жыл бұрын
@@nibblerock huh? The quality of the guests Lex manages to pull is just astonishing. He is a lot smarter than Pat also. Pat's strengh is his great, great entrepreneurship.
@victormullin8678
@victormullin8678 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mikefinsterbush2591
@mikefinsterbush2591 Жыл бұрын
Live 5 min away from Harrisburg love hearing stories from ppl that grew up in the same area
@vhosca
@vhosca 2 жыл бұрын
Apple did not let someone to access the laptop, Hunter gave him the password.
@darbyohara
@darbyohara 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. You’d think a former federal agent would not have been so dumb to think they broke in 🤣
@terrystroble8657
@terrystroble8657 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew and his employer make their livings manipulating the people. Yet he acts like manipulation doesn't happen often....lol
@LHVMleodragonlamb
@LHVMleodragonlamb 2 жыл бұрын
Pakistan has number one intelligence. In the world
@larryboy6577
@larryboy6577 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t be more correct. He has HOURS of podcasts talking about his training in the CIA and how they’re EXPERTS in deception and manipulation. So you have guy who works for an agency that literally nobody on this planet trusts talking about his extensive training on deception and manipulation. It laughable
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
He is basically giving us, the public, a taste of the very thing he says he's doing. And we're lapping it up.
@brandonb5075
@brandonb5075 2 жыл бұрын
🌊👁🇨🇦 allows agent (no such thing as “ex” agent) to go on multiple podcasts and “speak his mind”, really folks! Sure he’s a nice dude, but never seems to answer questions directly, more often he reintroduces your question back to you with another similar but not the same question… Don’t get played fellas! Great interview, as always.
@rojayreid908
@rojayreid908 2 жыл бұрын
Sir you can use the same argument for spec ops soldiers, it doesn't mean you can't be an ex agent and so on.
@brandonb5075
@brandonb5075 2 жыл бұрын
@@rojayreid908 I would prefer “retired” and over 65 before you start preaching about your service…maybe just semantics but just not buying it in this situation. Has anyone asked him why he is not in the CIA any more? I also think it’s different, military service vs CIA…last thought, there are 1000’s of ex/current/retired CIA members…why this one guy? Should be a plethora of individuals. I’m not trying to call out any individuals, but he is interacting with podcasts, not MSM, and it only seems to be him…kinda strange to me. I could be totally off, just my opinion. Much respect to all that serve our country!
@HelnoIaint
@HelnoIaint 2 жыл бұрын
He’s still in play
@DetVen
@DetVen 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonb5075 I kinda agree with you. I have a friend I served in the Army with who became a Federal Marshall and retired after 23 years. The non-disclosure type documents they have you sign going in and leaving, makes it very difficult for someone to go rogue and actually say things that people don't know. Everything this guy said is known, nothing new just reaffirming things and offering some fluff.
@rojayreid908
@rojayreid908 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonb5075 If he was still in the CIA you wouldn't even know his name or what he looks like just like special operation guys.
@tambott5893
@tambott5893 Жыл бұрын
Loveeeeee the triggering and not triggering threat side, thats life skills right there
@carloscano8848
@carloscano8848 2 жыл бұрын
Private intelligence has gotta be one of the scariest things I can think of. Just imagine what they would go through to get contracts as well as it clunking up the flow of intelligence.
@toshoshi1551
@toshoshi1551 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I don’t think corporations should be directly involved in national security.
@keyboardmouse7699
@keyboardmouse7699 Жыл бұрын
They're attractive to people chasing dollars
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
I can easily imagine them infliltrating the most public domain imaginable, such as YT podcast channels, under the guise of disengagement, for example. Speculating.
@billymellstrom6412
@billymellstrom6412 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. The discussion on privatizing the CIA (55:00) was brilliant. Great questions and superb answers!
@knuckletherapyserveothersf6092
@knuckletherapyserveothersf6092 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle Don while he was alive all we knew was he worked in different embassy around the world or in South America somewhere. He lived till his late 70s . Then after he died then we found out what he did for living. Who knew not us
@ng9291
@ng9291 2 жыл бұрын
How naive of this guy to think Zuckerberg or other media didn’t purposely influence the election in 2020. How I wish PBD would have Dinesh on regarding the 2020 election.
@multi-transportationsystem11
@multi-transportationsystem11 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed with you
@jasoncelli123
@jasoncelli123 2 жыл бұрын
He probably has some skin in the game as in does work for Meta…. Perhaps… probably can buy the hand that feeds you
@darbyohara
@darbyohara 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not naive. Hes lying.
@RedPandaKoala
@RedPandaKoala 2 жыл бұрын
@@darbyohara once CIA always CIA, his main goal here was to probably influence that narrative
@800iq2
@800iq2 2 жыл бұрын
Naive? Or tactical ignorance to not be pressed further and exposed he is biased towards it
@orionsblax3645
@orionsblax3645 Жыл бұрын
I have seen many Bustamante's interviews and this is definitely the most interesting so far. I think is the highest profile of interviewers plays a nice role about it. Waiting for his new one in Shawn Ryans podcast on March 27th.
@panduh1060
@panduh1060 Жыл бұрын
Pat, your commitment to the truth is so admirable. I definitely don’t agree with you on a lot of things, just the one thing that matters: let’s ge the truth. Thank you for your channel.
@bradleyboyer9979
@bradleyboyer9979 2 жыл бұрын
This guy was very disappointing. It sounds like he's not even aware of what the FBI has been doing. It's common - someone works at a place and becomes emotionally unable to separate his feelings from facts.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Жыл бұрын
Can guarantee you off air he's talking so much shit about the CIA and the gov in general. Everybody in the government/military acts like that on camera
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
But in his case, his entire job was precisely to be able to separate those two, on-command. As well as trick people into letting him into their circle, 'ya know.
@LghTsKnJames
@LghTsKnJames 2 жыл бұрын
When I joined the navy, I received a random call from an agent and told to meet at a public library. After work I went and she had a private room already. We sat and talked and she had a binder with ALL my information in it. Including my father's info who I didn't know. She said we'll be in contact and I never heard from them again lol.
@cherialbaugh1741
@cherialbaugh1741 2 жыл бұрын
🤯 I bet you can get camera footage
@ernestrivers3736
@ernestrivers3736 2 жыл бұрын
Not sus lol
@solaar11
@solaar11 2 жыл бұрын
They found this comment and said he’s compromised lol
@brandonmehrabi268
@brandonmehrabi268 Жыл бұрын
Your dad is an immigrant I bet lol Cause that's what I had to do and it was with lots of info but that interview had to happen because of that. You didn't hear from her cause they must not have needed anything else. I had to later clarify in writing that I gave a vague answer to something after asking her to rephrase the question. That was obnoxious
@joshgraham2294
@joshgraham2294 Жыл бұрын
I never write msgs but this was by far the best piece of content iv watched. Absolute gold. Appreciation from random Australian on mushrooms:) haha
@ericholdsworth6611
@ericholdsworth6611 Жыл бұрын
Nice, expanding the mind while expanding the mind. I can't watch this stuff on it, it takes me personally to a very dark place. Only from personal shit in my life. I take myself back to the 70s when music wasn't fake and try to stay there for awhile. Parts of this podcast seemed like a recruiting video and PR campaign, but it was still good to see. You have a lot of work down under, your government really bullied you, far worse than here. Have you shot any of them yet? I would back that decision fully and would start a Goscrewme fundraiser. Sorry, Gofundme, as long as you think like me. 🍄👍
@TheoneNonlyJoelynCada
@TheoneNonlyJoelynCada Жыл бұрын
People don’t just “get” their news from social media. People share the news they get on social media in hopes to reach people with issues they feel are relevant and important.
@McNastyxx95
@McNastyxx95 Жыл бұрын
Man he’s good lol He keeps giving some info but some questions he runs around em without anyone even knowing. Lol Really good with communication and his skills .
@kennymacdowell1257
@kennymacdowell1257 Жыл бұрын
English Language expert. Talks for hours and says 2 things.
@disruptceo
@disruptceo 2 жыл бұрын
Interview Andrew Tate next
@FazeParticles
@FazeParticles 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Жыл бұрын
andrew taint
@dmcruz8888
@dmcruz8888 2 жыл бұрын
There should be a part 2 with Andrew Bustamante
@hectormontelongo8011
@hectormontelongo8011 2 жыл бұрын
FBI: Grow your hair out and act cool, even though you’re a not. Lie about your actual grades. Andrew: Affirmative what else? FBI: Tell them to call you “Andy” and say things like “chasing tail”.
@morpheus8233
@morpheus8233 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf 😂😂😂😂🤡
@ibemiked323
@ibemiked323 2 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the interview ? He was CIA
@AngelicRequiemX
@AngelicRequiemX 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, I'm pretty sure that was a real convo that "Andy" and the CIA had
@Circuses
@Circuses Жыл бұрын
Pat doesn’t hold back and I freaking love it
@mannycruz699
@mannycruz699 Жыл бұрын
PBD is awesome love your show style and questions God bless u bro.
@cheesedoodle2327
@cheesedoodle2327 Жыл бұрын
PBD grilled this man and I loved every second of it lol.
@billymellstrom6412
@billymellstrom6412 Жыл бұрын
And he stood tall and answered in a nuanced way. The way he turned the tables on privitazing the CIA was epic!
@cheesedoodle2327
@cheesedoodle2327 Жыл бұрын
@@billymellstrom6412 lol we must have watched different interviews. Your CIA puppet was shook lmao
@baihu4u
@baihu4u 2 жыл бұрын
Next 'intelligence' interview should be Malcolm Nance. Doubt we'll ever see Pat invite such a challenge in perspectives, but it would definitely make for great discussion / debate.
@colinkillian9265
@colinkillian9265 2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm Nance, the same dude who pretended he was operating in Ukraine, remember when he had his AK slung wrongly while broadcasting live on MSNBC, while saying his advice was being sought after in high level strategic meetings. Remember how he stayed for like two weeks before coming back lol.. Remember when he acted so immature debating Shapiro on Bill Maher that even the audience and Bill had to shut him down..Yeah I'm sure Patrick is terrified of such a high level intellectual.. 😂
@andrewlee1573
@andrewlee1573 2 жыл бұрын
Lol that guy is a straight clown.
@baihu4u
@baihu4u 9 ай бұрын
@@colinkillian9265 The fact that you actually wrote "had his AK slung wrongly" automatically disqualified your perspective on what classifies one as a "high level intellectual". LOL! Let me recommend a thesaurus for you. And if you don't know what that is, refer to the dictionary.
@kiron2x298
@kiron2x298 2 жыл бұрын
plot twist, this dude is still an agent and his new mission is to improve the image of cia
@Ranger.TomGunna
@Ranger.TomGunna Жыл бұрын
This guy is 100% stil in the CIA not a single doubt in my mind
@andrefadhel7410
@andrefadhel7410 9 ай бұрын
One of Patricks most interesting interviews
@wallacesouza2678
@wallacesouza2678 2 жыл бұрын
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@montserratherrero782
@montserratherrero782 2 жыл бұрын
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@rebeccalittle1921
@rebeccalittle1921 2 жыл бұрын
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@marinefernandez3166
@marinefernandez3166 2 жыл бұрын
Because my portfolio has been going down the drain while I try trading, I just don't know what I do wrong!
@carolineknudsen5306
@carolineknudsen5306 2 жыл бұрын
I have also been trading with her. profits are secured and over a 100 percent return on investment
@antoniaprieto5390
@antoniaprieto5390 2 жыл бұрын
Investing in crypto is a plan for the future so it's high time people understand the importance of investment.
@mattblaylock9038
@mattblaylock9038 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick, wow, I cannot get over how refreshing this podcast is!! Any time I get a chance to listen, it reassures and inspires me to continue optimizing my potential. These podcasts just provide so much information from so many different perspectives, it is truly edifying. Please keep these bad boys coming, because I don't see any reason why you can't eventually tap into that Rogan market share!
@gummo3873
@gummo3873 2 жыл бұрын
You really Swangin' there arent ya bud!? 👉🥜🌰👈🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👉🥜🌰👈🤣🤣🤣 don't loose ya grip it's a long way down from PBDs sack.
@bradleyboyer9979
@bradleyboyer9979 2 жыл бұрын
PBD >>>>>>> Rogan
@gummo3873
@gummo3873 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyboyer9979 Super swangin' from his 👉👉👉🥜🌰🥜👈👈👈❗❗❗🤣😆✋
@capecodder04
@capecodder04 Жыл бұрын
Rogan is a knucklehead
@bassmaster1953
@bassmaster1953 2 жыл бұрын
WHY DO I GET THE SUSPICION THAT THE CIA ORCHESTRATED THIS INTERVIEW DOWN TO THE LENGTH OF HIS HAIR?
@kristinewhitfield4110
@kristinewhitfield4110 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@howardhill3395
@howardhill3395 Жыл бұрын
Andrew is very articulate. Love especially how he discussed the right and left brain.
@jgs_gamestudio9096
@jgs_gamestudio9096 5 ай бұрын
Few times I disagreed with Patrick, but man he was wrong with the whole Facebook thing. Americans need to wake up and make the right choice themselves, not rely on social media.
@gabriel_primo
@gabriel_primo Жыл бұрын
I found the 'asset and method secrecy' condition very cool for us subscribers that love inteligence subject podcasts!!
@tbizness27
@tbizness27 2 жыл бұрын
Watching Pat school Andy on most current world events tells me either this guy still works for the CIA or our national intelligence is screwed lol
@bradleyboyer9979
@bradleyboyer9979 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is very disappointing. How could he seriously not know who Peter "Stroke" is?
@Deestroyer82
@Deestroyer82 2 жыл бұрын
I know right, I was thinking this guy's interesting then realized he's part of some agenda. Still interesting.
@christophergotera3386
@christophergotera3386 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very hard to argue against this lol
@NaturalLanguageLearning
@NaturalLanguageLearning 2 жыл бұрын
This guy was saying a few weeks ago in the Lex Fridman podcast that Russia was clearly winning the war and that they would take Odessa by Autumn lol
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Жыл бұрын
@@NaturalLanguageLearning He also said we were wrong about Ukraine. Which is funny considering our intelligence predicted it down to the hour
@KimberlynCrawford
@KimberlynCrawford 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the first interviews I have ever enjoyed. Love this guy!!!
@RichardSmith-wr6go
@RichardSmith-wr6go 2 жыл бұрын
Unwatchable, the CIA's pr guy is full of it.
@seanconner9407
@seanconner9407 Жыл бұрын
Nice, intelligent and spiritual down to earth man, respect
@scottwagner3694
@scottwagner3694 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Hershey right next door to Harrisburg. What a great dude!
@terrystroble8657
@terrystroble8657 2 жыл бұрын
If people would have had to "stand in line" to vote. The election would be trustworthy. The guy seems to forget that didn't happen.
@kristinewhitfield4110
@kristinewhitfield4110 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@solaar11
@solaar11 2 жыл бұрын
Great point. I was like man this guy is naive. I know many left leaning good will individuals that cannot put the pieces in front of them together; our politics has been corrupted and the Dems are clearly transforming our culture and ethics as rhinos stay quiet.
@REPMC
@REPMC 2 жыл бұрын
The bit about about not triggering the threat response is such an important thing to understand. Thanks for the great podcast.
@KarenTookTheKids364
@KarenTookTheKids364 2 жыл бұрын
You never really leave the CIA. Also, this guy said 'Harems Razor' is a tool used at the CIA. It's Hanlon's Razor and it's weird that you would not know that.
@naynay1139
@naynay1139 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s ignorant to think CIA only recruits the best and brightest minds
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of things he seems 'not to know', isn't there.
@dannymadrid1822
@dannymadrid1822 Жыл бұрын
Andy is a great American patriot!
@dbwillrise8
@dbwillrise8 Жыл бұрын
No he's not. Wake up.
@dannymadrid1822
@dannymadrid1822 Жыл бұрын
@@dbwillrise8 why not?
@tommybubblegum9184
@tommybubblegum9184 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding interview!! Thanks
@noahschmartz2354
@noahschmartz2354 2 жыл бұрын
I like Andrews patriotism towards the American people which he alludes to several times ! I wonder if he has a much fondness for all the people who voted for Trump in the last election and who feel hard done by, due to the media bias and censorship that occurred .
@Mr50403
@Mr50403 Жыл бұрын
Trump was on every tv and radio station, how was he censored?
@stephaniestylianou2368
@stephaniestylianou2368 2 жыл бұрын
Pat is way to clever for the CIA and FBI
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 Жыл бұрын
No, that's just what you think.
@iain2053
@iain2053 2 жыл бұрын
Every interview I've seen with Andrew has been interesting! Great podcast guys!
@rootsiebee
@rootsiebee Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Andrew for clarifying how poles don’t always tell us a truthful stat. ❤
@andycampanella3602
@andycampanella3602 Ай бұрын
The public does not have any obligation to the gov. The gov. is thoroughly and completely obliged to the citizens
@JJPsyc
@JJPsyc 2 жыл бұрын
Please, enough with the professional liars.
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