CIG being CIG for 10 minutes straight.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

P.S. For all of you that are asking about the song.. I made it for this video :) Glad you guys like it.

[@muhschaf]

see, you haven't lost your talent. ^^

[@stevenB216]

That gargling solo was next level

[@gurtbadger]

So funny

[@azca.]

Absolute audible cinema ✋😐🤚

[@conasca]

Best song of 2025.

[@DeltaV64]

The sound effects and the song. I'm dead.

[@Tuttomenui]

the gargling lol

[@TheCamelPenseur]

@@Tuttomenui is it possible to find the song of gargling song :p ?

[@Tuttomenui]

@@TheCamelPenseur gargling song starts around 2:52

[@TheCamelPenseur]

@@Tuttomenui i know, i juste want the song only, you the author ? :D

[@DuxAKADuke]

The absolute shitpost level energy of the music when the gargling starts lmao, somehow i still can't stop banging my head to it

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

❤😂

[@jakejewkes6688]

Gaslighting our backers was always the intention lol 😂

[@RJiiFin]

Best Damn Gaslighting "Game". Never been done before!

[@RN1441]

No kidding. And guess what ad they're running on this video? That's right, star citizen.

[@vik12D]

"It's nowhere near that" and 2025 is a few days away...those ships still aren't out. Maybe it was somewhere near that, afterall...

[@AaronAlso]

I'm willing to bet half of them are 90% ready. They just won't release them because they don't have the gameplay to support it or know how they are going to build that gameplay.

[@SuburbanFox]

no, it's nowhere near that... it's longer! :D But don't worry, here's some ships you never asked for, instead of the ships you actually paid for.

[@adrianbarreto4225]

@@SuburbanFox apparently there is a skin that was sold to backers for a ship that is already out, yet even until this day, that skin hasn't come out. but new skins come out every month practically.

[@arcadealchemist]

I think cig need to have a mandatory drug test every 3 to 4 months to make sure they aren't pissing their pay check on crack because that's the only thing I can think of that brings this level of Snakeoil grifting

[@SuburbanFox]

@@adrianbarreto4225 that does not surprise me, sadly. Their ethic seems to be: why make the thing you've already sold when you can make new things to sell instead? Unfortunately it works, people always buy the new thing in droves (often while complaining about it).

[@artlife9563]

This can never be buried. All new players need to be directed to this video.

[@-_Nuke_-]

One lonely youtuber Vs 800,000,000$ company.

[@Merco313]

do you ever feel like a soulless marketing puppet?

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

The dude breathing through the nose to continue the gargling killed me, ahahahahaha. 10/10.

[@RainOfFodderco]

I think the audacity of John Crew to even make a face is pretty huge.

[@Agent_Smith_Official]

CIG is 100% blatantly exploiting the fanbase for raw cash at this point. Sad that there are still those hardcore fans in denial that believe everything their lord and savior CR tells them. We all got duped out of some money by CIG, don't believe them going forward. Not another penny.

[@Schinken_]

I do and they deliver whe just got the biggest update ever with 4.0 and its realy good. Also most of the ships shown her have good reasons not to be in the game. Many of them have no gameplay like the orion, endeavore, pioneer and so on. So yea theY need to focus on bringing in the rest of the game mechanics/fearures and develop the ones that are already in the game further.

[@Crittek]

I’m not emotionally attached to money. I burned $9000 on fireworks last year. This game is funded by less that 10,000 people. The rest are peanuts. That why numbers of players gets halved every year but funding goes up or stays the same.

[@SnowTerebi]

Welp there is still nothing that can compete so this is what we have for the foreseeable future.

[@stuartthurstan]

Dude, that was fucking hilarious. I was crying with laughter. Then I remembered that it's all true, and that I really wanted SC to become the best damn space sim ever, and then I was just crying.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

hahahahah

[@savant989]

If this all bottoms out and goes into the consumer protection courts in the EU all these videos are going to make things spicy.

[@T51B1]

Honestly, I hope multiple lawsuits get traction and force CIG to actually do something. Either stop the anti-consumer practices that marketing is doing like the blatant bait and switch they pulled with the Redeemer, release the ships that people paid for a decade (or longer!) ago and still haven't been able to play in-game, or completely refund people their money and apologize for their complete failure to uphold their end of the deal.

[@Schinken_]

​@@T51B1Redeemers case is balancing and i am pretty sure that CIG states that ship stats and all can change on the website since around 2016-17. The 6 small shilds have there own adbantage. When you hit one large shild it has one large health pool so it dosent matter from which side you hit it it will not recharge. Whit 6 small ones you need to hit the same one ore it will recharge so i can just role the ship when one shild is down. People that are angry about the shild just dont know the game mechanics. The weapons is pure balance and they where oversized. Also when you want the original design then the redeemer would be a drop ship. Main problem with the redeemer was that it was a community design that lead to many problems and reworks to make it fit into SC. Also it dosent make sense for most of the bigger schips to be in the game right know. There is zero gameplay for the endavor and the bigger Hull series also makes not much sense because there is no trade with that much cargo. As much as i love the kraken it also has no real need in the game. Yes there is valid critic with ships like "they shouldmt make concapt ships that make no sense to have in the game in the next 2-3 years" But you get loaner ships and most ships that are mussing are variations not completly new ships.

[@stray1969]

A legal case, preferably in the EU since there are bigger chances for consumers would be the best thing to happen. Why aren’t there any lawyers in the community that are willing to try it. I’m so sure lots of disappointed backers, like me, are willing to throw in some money again, but this time to pay the person who is going to defend their rights in the court of law. Anyone interested?

[@Schinken_]

@@stray1969 Because there is no chance of winning in the first place. Its a Kickstarter thats still in the making and CIG makes constand progress right know whe got 4.0 the biggest update to SC since the first time whe could fly in stanton. There are basically no grounds for a lawsuit. Also when you buy a ship you agree that there may be changes to ships and that you dont realy buy the ship thats there. Dont get why people think they need to sue ore need CIG to get the money back just sell your ships to other people and with some look you get even more money back depending on what ships you bought.

[@Profane_Pagan]

And Britain - where CIG is registered - had successfully Brexited out from the EU. Interestingly the UK is mostly still using all the consumer protection laws from the time they were EU members . I still wonder if Brexit influences the predatory marketing tactics of CIG.

[@Fetor]

No cash till nightrider is fired

[@jimflagg4009]

They took away the Med Bed respawn because they needed to sell a Carrack with respawn. Then they made a NURSA and things changed.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Don't forget that when the Cutty Red was spawn capable, then nerfed.

[@cyborgmetropolis7652]

It’s the CIG cycle of buff the new gen ships and cripple the last gen ships.

[@jetnavigator]

CIG is the world's biggest private government department.

[@avon_c6199]

You and Golgot100 doing gods work here. Certainly shows CIGs blunders, hypocrisy and revisionism on previous statements with this project...all in the hopes that backers won't notice and keep on giving money for the next superfluous rework.

[@SevenSharks141]

I usually name CIG as "Clown Imperium Games" until they'll fix the game and give what they promised 🤡

[@DeadWayfes]

And you forgot the "you will never be able to craft full ships" that was in there since the start of the project...

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

I don't remember them ever saying that

[@DeadWayfes]

@GrumpyEyeGaming back in 2014 ish they specified we would need to buy ships and the things we would be able to manufacture would be very limited. Ie not whole guns or ships, because that would need huge manufactures and deals with companies. But we could procude certain smaller items. Mind you crafting was explained back then as NOT your standard mmo with blueprints, just that you needed to build facilities like in the real world. Back then rhe 10 to 1 npc/player ratio was still the idea and npcs and companies would shape the general economy rather than only players, as they are pushing forward, or well maybe they just renamed the whole economy system once more

[@DeadWayfes]

But in general i see sc going more towards the fast pace shooter but with a huge time sink to revival, which makes 0 sense if you ask me... a twitch shooter should be for fast paced low stakes lives. But here how they have explained death of a spaceman death is something major that brings consequences.... but we move to more and more fast pace shooter mechanics instead of more arma/squad or middle ground solutions...

[@T51B1]

​@@GrumpyEyeGaming They did but I can't remember exactly when. The NPC driven economy and simulation was supposed to determine the rarity/scarcity of ships and items and the manufacturers would be the entities controlling what and how much of complex items are made. The game and its economy is going to be massively different going forward than how they explained it would work for the last decade+, it's now going to be more looter shooter survival and crafting with way less sim and DoaSM. CIG is just chasing the next niche group to pull money out of.

[@DeadWayfes]

@@T51B1 pretty much this... space stations in some locations were explained to be as owned but NOT as craftable... this was never supposed to be EVE but better. And while i do like the FPS factor it has gone way too far up the generic looter shooter fast pace shooter... which doesnt make too much sense for the world and death consequences

[@anoyingnomad]

Bro i just lost the last few braincells to this

[@psix130]

In 2030 nothing will change, it's been on a loop for years.

[@Schinken_]

It just had the biggest update ever and with the realease of squadron 42 closing in whe get more people that work on SC.

[@psix130]

​@@Schinken_I'm not as optimistic as some but I'm sure in 2 years from now we will need another 2 years then another 2 years even in the year 2030 we will be 2 years away from getting sq42 don't be fooled it's the never ending story.

[@guidobolke5618]

No, It can't. At some stage we will see come to peak funding and than it will dry up very quickly as people realize they will not get what they pay for. And that will be the end of anothher ponzi scheme.

[@Schinken_]

@@psix130 CIG didnt state a relaese date for Squadron 42 for a long time ever since 2016. Now after all that time they decided to give us one again. CIG nows that they need to release the game end of 2026 at best they get maybe 1-3 months into 2027 when it is realy needed. After Squadron is released pretty much every one works on Star Citizen. Most people forget that Star Citizen was not the primary focus in development instead it was Squadron 42. server meshing was the main reason SC was hold back so much and then that they had the main Focus on SQ 42. So after the Release of SQ42 whe should see a good uptake in the development of Star Citizen and whe see it to a degree with 4.0 right know.

[@DrunkFool-w2r]

@Schinken_ nothing wrong wity abit of hope bro.but i think you need to know that its denial not hope 🤣

[@RykrXky]

The gargling lmfao 😂😂😂

[@AWARHERO]

I never liked John Crew... He's always lying and condescending.

[@nivlheim73]

nah he seems fine, he is also on a payroll

[@thecancermen245]

Same, he probably hates our guts too

[@doctorno3912]

With all the lay offs he's soon to be John who?

[@BlueSpectre]

this is pure gold.

[@Primordial_Originator]

This makes me sad wish i could have all that money back

[@GnomeKr]

then dont fucking spend your money on a jpeg, it's simple as that spend the cash on something that actually exists

[@T51B1]

I don't know how anyone gives CIG a single cent more money at this stage. I'm still going back and forth with them for a refund because after being a backer for ten years I am done and the game is a complete joke.

[@louhodo5761]

I love how you can tell when Jared is lying... he stammers 3 times.

[@ozramblue117]

lol when he began gargling the tune! 😂

[@leadpipejustice9253]

2:46 😂😂😂😂 crying dude

[@RegisBladeStudios]

Theu still have 20 years of ship work to do at the current pace just for existing concepts and all the gold standard reworks lol they are fucked.

[@guidobolke5618]

No. We are.

[@smok4101]

Fun stuff. Is there one ship that is technically finished as per original intent? With atmosphere, fire, docking, modules, storage, escape pods, showers, toilets, lights, navigation stations, engineering stations, etc? Or are those small items just....

[@apr6337]

Maybe instead of visiting the coffee bar 20 times a day cut it back to 10

[@thebanana26]

It's like they don't even know what to do anymore.

[@thecancermen245]

The fact random backers can approximate their timelines better than CIG means they are either liars or grossly incompetent

[@vengefullioness7949]

Ty Grumpy for keeping a critical eye on cig like no one else do, also fun video.

[@ZeratKJ]

I respect the editing and the entertainment factor

[@yenneferofvengerberg1517]

The last 20 seconds staring edit.. pure gold lol

[@leebrandencallaghan]

The last 20 seconds were gold. Well done.

[@LethaK]

the music is perfect, laughing hard

[@revilixjohnsen9496]

The Crucuible thing did hurt... my Pressuse!

[@danielekirylo]

Amazing edit and soundtrack, Grumpy! 🎉

[@AngryTheGnome]

Daily reminder that CIG has made close to 750 million dollars and has something along the line of 500 developers (and 1100 total people), and yet the game is held together with scotch tape and prayers after 12+ years of development PS: the audio design for this video is incredible

[@Sabaar]

I can't stop laughing. The thirst for spaceships is real lol.

[@RJiiFin]

3:25 the body language of the dude in the bottom is soooo telling

[@c0sm0cat660]

What a masterpiece! Thx for making this and showing in a condensed form what the real "intentions" of CIG are.

[@MrMatirendicontoporc]

This one was a masterpiece, my friend.

[@criticalthinkingtryit]

YA all keep calling it a GAME. Define game

[@teelip749]

You have no idea how many times I plan to come back to this video just to hear that song at the beginning......

[@andrewfanner2245]

2 weeks before release, Chris wants it in green and brown, not blue and white...

[@Gofr5]

On the topic of delayed ships, we didn't even mention all the old ships that still need their modernization and gold pass updates. lol

[@AaronAlso]

I promise Star Citizen is totally not a scam. Chris Roberts is just completely incompetent. "Hanlon's Razor - Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."

[@DrD3vic3]

at a certain point, the response must be the same.

[@takealready]

Thank you Grumpy for reminding the community.

[@dexagalapagos]

Scam Citizen is a gift that keeps on giving.

[@sicitydonmo3016]

make me the boss of CIG and i will deliver this game within 1 year at absolute max. it takes 2-3 months of worktime to make a ship as big as the Arrastra fully flight ready. when implemented ingame add another 1 month and it has the gold standard ( i got the information first hand ). Base building is something that i understand needs a bit more time but max 8 months, every day more is just lazy work. I understand that server meshing is something big and needed quite a bit of ressources to create BUT they have nearly 800milion dollares to make a game. Elite Dangerous had only 10% of that and you can visit the whole galaxy, now just magine what elite dangerous would be if they had a budget of 160milion instead of 80milion.

[@JP-wj3iu]

Love the clown fiesta music... it's perfectly fitting xD

[@captainjackloco]

Please please please what is this song??

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

I made it.. :)

[@captainjackloco]

@GrumpyEyeGaming good shit dude

[@SJ-mf2ci]

Autoplay was on, and I heard this music playing in the background. I immediately knew it was a Star Citizen video.

[@nm3-g5p]

A few years ago, I suggested you to make a few themed tunes based on some SC pre existing, oficial tunes.. And what you replied was something with the sorts of: no one would really care that much, and it would take too much of your time. And I would agree, to a certain extent.. But, the "music" you did on this video, it worked so wonderfully, brilliantly; not only did it help convey the message you were conveying.. but people really enjoyed and liked the humorous, satyric style, which fits your style, and/or the style of your videos, and that's why it worked really well and people liked it so much. If you could do some more of this kind of humorus, satyric videos, sort'a like what "Wicked Wookie" is doing, as well, that would be great. And eve greater would be if you and the "Wicked Wookie" could somehow collaborate. You two guys are the most funny SC content creators, hands down.. BRAVO, Sir(s)!!

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

❤❤❤

[@unfalr]

This reminds me of zootopia "it's your word against your word", great video we need more of this.

[@thrashjf83]

This year has pushed me into the "I don't think they have a clue how to make a game camp." They have yet to answer any questions about how they intend to stop some org or orgs from blocking everyone's progress in 1.0 by just building a base beside a story location and lighting everyone who tries to go there up. We know it can be done as 4.0 people are locking down tons of missions. There is a reason sandboxes don't do story in mmos.

[@machinech183]

Their inability to keep up with the BS they constantly spin speaks volumes about why they can't get anything else done in an organized fashion. That song is just... perfect.

[@menjac1]

Marketing department leading CIG

[@mabutoo]

TBF, in this time we have been flooded with fighters. That has been their focus.

[@DeadWayfes]

And space combat devolved to the 3 modes, again...

[@johnwayne4911]

It's the year of Star Citizen everyone! Congratulations!

[@vexx12343]

John Crew has aged so hard so fast

[@Master_Ki_Adi_Mundi]

Lover every bit of the troll compilation at the beginning lol

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

ROFL Last calculation I saw based on current progress WITHOUT adding any new concept ships was around 10-14 years, and that was a year ago, before they sold more concepts.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Oh..yea...that calculation did not include gold standard passes on all the existing ships, just getting the backlog out.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

@@Kyle-sr6jm that would be a 3 hour video then lol

[@munkeyboi13]

As always, Right on point my man! Whenever I play SC and the game bugs out I wish i could hear your gargling version of SC music, its perfect. Need a glitch track lol

[@yesthehandymancan]

It’s funny when they consistently contradict themselves

[@horstwiesner]

The carrot and the donkeys. It works! 🤫

[@LostSoul-TeemoMain]

My father is still coping about Merchantmann

[@michaelweaver4439]

OMG - too true - too good!! 😫😭 The gaggling really got me!! 🤣

[@EviLNox8]

The background song.. Lol. Were you gargling water at one point or was that a sound effect? Lol

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

I was gargling water :)

[@EviLNox8]

@GrumpyEyeGaming 🤣

[@leehrvyoswld]

Man, I want to sue these dudes.

[@mazack00]

1:14 team left because they realized they couldn't pick up the pieces from the artist who got covid'd

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

From $4400.00 office chairs to lay offs in 24 mos. They dont look like they are getting control of their assets and workflow but instead are just flailing around hoping for a desirable result. I have always loved the vision but execution has left me wanting. I have been on vacation for two weeks and decided to rebind my sticks and see just whats changed. The answer is not much. I hit three game breaking bugs in two hours of gameplay. A freeze up during quantum. A space spawn outside the station and not able to reload firearms, which is a new one for me. And the time sinks are just unbearable now. Just getting equipment and a shipped pulled is a beating. Its one of the few games where I will listen to an audio book while I play. Says alot. And still not a fan of the flight model though I heard thats its become a priority after the recoil they got from MM in the first place. I really wanted base building too. That one still stings. After about a year off and coming back is a solid meh. I havent played again after that one session. On a side note Stalker 2 has been getting most of my screen time lately. That game is tits.

[@TNTNT20]

We got gaslighted by cig before gta6

[@AluminumElephant]

Those darn CIG are it at again fellers. Great video Grumpy, it got some smiles and laughs out of me. The song was top notch, especially the gargle saga XD

[@araynortassadore3056]

Scam Citizen all along

[@johnwayne4911]

And on top of ALL THAT, Mark Hamill is losing his fucking mind.

[@kemical37]

He uploads, I rejoice.

[@HarenunHoppus]

And nobody thought about not giving CiG anymore money?

[@JelloBob]

That'd be the smart move but maroons with poor impulse control keep shelling out 300+ dollars every time a new ship gets announced

[@_JAG_]

Nice job with compiling all of CIG's BS into one convenient short entertaining video! Very good ending!

[@GamerDudester]

The soundtrack is perfect lmfaooooo

[@Xero_Kaiser]

Only a minute into the video and I'm already laughing. This is gonna be good.

[@Auldus]

Petitioning for this song to be the new main menu music for SC. Sign below \/

[@chappy0061]

I am a fairly committed fan of this project, but your criticism is both valid and fucking hilarious. That song oh my god!

[@F96-t6s]

Bravo ! And over the years I too have become so sick and cynical about that SC theme song (due to the many bugs that throw you out of the immersion) that hearing the gargling version is music to my sore ears.

[@azca.]

One of the funniest videos I have seen in a long time. I haven't laughed every 15s on a video in forever.

[@Nissanocles]

....and people still white knight for this shit. Tried, again to play a few weeks ago and couldn't even get off Hurston as the hanger elevators weren't working. I mean, if this was a broken infrastructure sim, 10/10. 👌

[@JelloBob]

Has Chris thought about trying less ships and more features for his sandbox?

[@fredjohnson7480]

This was hilarious. TY TY TY!

[@narosushi]

This is a MASTERPIECE!!!!

[@gorukaaa]

Such a lovely-goofy-unorganized-money-sucking group❤️

[@realdeal485]

Trapped in a shard for a week now lol.. no escape..

[@Sitr]

Pure sal.. I mean gold. PURE GOLD!

[@hunterhamburg]

Why is the Expanse at 22. also named as Anvil Legionnaire?

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

Obvious mistake

[@slickdiggler1197]

Just wait. CIG will start a meme coin.

[@sparkz6135]

I can't belive they didn't do it already during the boom. Sell LTI as nft or something.

[@calendarbaby]

I truly believe Jared is just as incompetent and corrupt as CR

[@Andromansis]

Ok. I had thought they had at least made a cool game engine but if they can't even quickly put together a starship then I guess not.

[@conasca]

I’ve watched this 5 times and counting.

[@nabihlakkis562]

Who is really managing this project? Whoever it is needs to take their management courses over.