when the editor has to fix it in post

[@CinemaStix]

Star Wars may not have actually been saved in the edit. Paul Hirsch himself has debunked that in interviews. But Ferris Bueller… was. Support me and my work by making a small pledge: www.patreon.com/cinemastix

[@samuelbarber6177]

I don’t know, I think some of the cuts were pretty good calls. Also, The Fugitive

[@dj71162]

A good example of a film actually being saved in the edit is Annie Hall. About an hour of footage was cut and was re-shaped to focus on the central love story.

[@lchambers56]

Hey, I was thinking about your channel this morning, and lo and behold, here's a video. Did you ever get that situation with that lowlife stealing your content resolved?

[@CinemaStix]

@lchambers56 Hey hey! And yeah actually. I had YT send them a letter letting them know that I knew, and a couple days later their account got deleted. Not entirely sure what happened in the interim there. But yeah.

[@lchambers56]

@@CinemaStix that's awesome! Like I said you're one of the best follows on KZbin and you def fill the void that was made when streaming became prevalent and dvd commentary was no longer a thing. Speaking of which, you should do a video about that and physical media, since it's so important to film. Keep up the good work!

[@tobybartels8426]

Ferris Bueller is a character that we've had in storytelling for as long as there have been stories: he's a trickster god.

[@headcrabn5347]

Hermes’ Day Off

[@PauTheDeo]

Sun Wukong's Day Off

[@Matisaro]

Loki Laufeyson's day off.

[@xwngdrvr]

Loki...? Loki...? Anyone...? Anyone...?

[@RedTail1-1]

Don't need the god part in there...

[@HiVizCamo]

"You're not dying, you just can't think of anything good to do", what a perfect line 👌

[@oldrrocr]

also a thing called "retirement"

[@PackMan97]

These days we call it depression.

[@austinysla6331]

​@@PackMan97very true.

[@WillyJunior]

I'll remember this when I have writer's block

[@blackm4niac]

Fun fact: (5:45) the two dudes with the silly hats in the observation lounge are from cologne. Those are carnival club hats and they wore them in the scene because... well they were there, they decided to wear them while sight seeing in chicago. John Hughes loved the idea of just having them stand at the edge of the frame and have people wonder what's up with those guys and their silly hats.

[@angelotro]

Am I being Mandala-ed?! I've never noticed those hats!😂 I've always just tried to imagine looking straight down the side of the building with my forehead resting on the cool glass.

[@obscure.reference]

@@angelotro lol yeah i was always just thinking about how i hate heights

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

​@@angelotro You probably got used to watching this movie in 4:3 on a TV, like most of us in the 80s/90s.

[@Sarklaser]

@@TheFiddleFaddle I feel like I always watched it on a 4:3 too and yet I vividly remember the making out in the background of the police station scene. 🤔

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

@@Sarklaser Pan & scan. In scenes like that where they want to capture both moments, they'd have the view scan from one side of the image to the other. Like what you sometimes see in KZbin shorts.

[@katehucks774]

I think my favorite theory/interpretation of Ferris Bueller is that it’s a groundhog-day-style time loop, in which Ferris is trying to prevent Cameron from killing himself, and we’re watching the final version of the loop where he finally gets Cameron to break through his depression at the end of the day. Everything is so perfectly timed and so coincidentally perfect, as though figured out through countless trials-and-error… I know it’s not like the movie was written with this as some “secret” meaning, I just like it as an interpretation. It IS about Cameron. It always has been.

[@GwenActually]

that's really neat

[@NastiMarvasti]

In screenwriting, they teach you that the protagonist is usually the one who changes at the end. Cameron and Jeanie are the only two characters who change. You can apply this to The Dark Knight as well. Harvey Dent is the protagonist, not Batman.

[@clintvanderklok7269]

Thanks for that. omg thanks. That truly is amazing insight. Goinna watch it again. I saw it in the theatre when I was in high school. I remember feeling like the movie was made for me and me alone. That's the power of Ferris though.

[@rottensquid]

@@NastiMarvasti I don't know if that's true with The Dark Knight. I think Batman is the one who changes. But that may be a discussion for another thread.

[@rottensquid]

I'm still enamored of the interpretation that has Ferris as Cameron's Tyler Durden. He's so depressed and filled with self-loathing that he dissociates himself from all his more winning traits. He can't see himself as charming or smart, so he projects that onto this other, perfect self. Sloane isn't Ferris's girlfriend, she's Cameron's girlfriend. But Cameron is so dissociated from anything likeable about himself, he sees her dating this perfect persona that has nothing to do with him. If she knew he was really Cameron and not Ferris, he's sure she wouldn't have anything to do with him. But the time loop theory is really good too. It's all fan canon, but it's fun to think about.

[@adman123]

After seeing this movie a dozen times, the one line that changed everything for me was when Sloan asks Ferris "You knew what you were doing when you got up this morning, didn't you?" It dawned on me that Ferris had this whole day planned out SPECIFICALLY so that Cameron would be able to survivor on his own two feet when they went away to different colleges. The ultimate act of a parent/bro, making sure their child/bro would be able to live without them.

[@Mr.Ekshin]

This was a fun summer romp of a film... but Mia Sara made it a 'classic'. Pretty sure every guy fell in love with her while watching this movie. And seeing as she didn't take Hollywood by storm and end up being overplayed for the next 5 or 10 years, this became a rewatchable film that gathered an audience every time it aired..

[@_aiko020]

AHHHHH that's very true

[@rex-racer]

We visited the Art Institute in Chicago a couple summers ago and there was a guy there who looked a bit like a young Alan Ruck (Cameron) and was actually wearing a Gordie Howe jersey. Needless to say, he caused quite a stir, and several of us snapped a photo of him standing in front of the Seurat painting. My wife and I had thoughts of mimicking the kiss in front of the Chagall stained glass, but thought better of it. My wife did capture my two sons and me with arms crossed standing in front of the sculptures though (which weren’t arranged at all like the movie). I know, it was all tourist garbage, but we did enjoy the art and the kids had fun. Ferris holds up really well a generation later, and is proof that editing might be the most important part of filmmaking. Another great video. John Hughes is a legend.

[@WlatPziupp]

No shame in "tourist garbage", that's just stuff most people like

[@hsingh4410]

@@WlatPziupp haha, exactly

[@IRanOutOfPhrases]

@@WlatPziupp especially at the Art Institute. Its a legit, solid museum. As a Chicago local, if other locals are avoiding it because its 'touristy', thats a brutal mistake Honestly the only tourist thing I'd advise against is Navy Pier. Total waste of space, including the ferris wheel, lol

[@RSpracticalshooting]

@@WlatPziupp i just got back from Alaska. My friend lives there but myself and my other buddy who went with me have never been. We had no shame in doing the tourist garbage!

[@kleanish]

"thought better of it" uh why

[@ShallowVA]

Whooaaa, I never knew about that cut pancreas scene! The way it's edited in the final film always gave me the impression that while Ferris was away, Cameron was cutting loose a bit, having fun, and messing with the snooty diners. It's not just editing, that's almost writing and directing through the edit! It takes a damn good editor and a trusting writer and director to make that work.

[@JohnFiala]

I used to have the novelization of the film, and the Pancreas scene was in there. It's actually fairly common for novelizations to be written from the script, and thus contain scenes that didn't make it to the multiplex.

[@BaseballPlayer0]

@@JohnFiala tell us all the differences between the film and novelisation

[@stapler942]

​@@JohnFiala Hence the infamous "voodoo shark" from the novelisation of Jaws: the Revenge. 😆

[@JohnFiala]

@@BaseballPlayer0 I would love to, but it's been decades since I last read the novelisation, and I don't own it anymore. :(

[@justinmclean9275]

@@stapler942 and the mafia shootout in the novelization of Jaws 2

[@MumRah]

Yes, do the character and script analysis for this movie. Can't wait.

[@DavidMorley]

Yes! It’s well worthy

[@agbook2007]

Ditto!

[@ZacCosner]

Seconded!

[@ssjackson9349]

Thirded!

[@clairelyn4405]

Here here yes please!!

[@nickolasnewman5430]

My parents took me to see this for my 7th birthday in 1986. It has been and will always be one of my favorite memories with my parents. I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and this explanation you have provided about this being a love letter, has very much made my day sir. Thank you for putting this together.

[@masterragebaiter]

I had a high school gf I called “Sloan” because of this movie. I think about her a lot. I’m 26 never married no children. Lord knows what shes doing. I’m still friends with her brother but we don’t talk about her. Only in passing

[@glennkeppel9836]

@@masterragebaiter Ask him next time. A life lived with regret is a life half lived.

[@chrisblake4198]

I always loved how achronological it was. Clearly a couple hours getting everyone out of school and moving, then the museum and a morning ballgame (?) then lunch and the parade, then another couple hours for the catharsis then getting everyone home. An arcade full of kids as Rooney hunts for Ferris while he's at the game, a work crew that spontaneously decides to paint a water tower before his sister goes home to discover his ruse, etc etc. None of it makes sense but it still works because it is an archetypal day off, of course everything fits in.

[@modusponen2]

Hey! No peeking behind the curtains!

[@TheWoodsugar]

Also, Rooney on the bus at the end…it’s at least 6-6:30 by now. How late are these kids coming home from school?…😂 Still a perfect film

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@TheWoodsugar How about the day of the week & time of year? It's meant to be a weekday in late spring or early summer, yet it includes the Von Steuben Day parade, which is always on a September weekend.

[@RCodyWanner]

literally never thought about that until right now. legit first time. thats crazy.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@RCodyWanner The time, day of week & time of year are all over the place!

[@ivyburrows9763]

I only just realised. Ferris calls Camerons home a Museum, but its in a museum (okay an art gallery, but Ferris does refer to it as a museum.) that Cameron connects to art, he sees himself. Its a parallel that after years of watching this film I never really caught till now.

[@JZStudiosonline]

It's the chicago art institute, it's a museum.

[@lukeliles3859]

@@JZStudiosonlineno, the other commenter was referring to where they filmed Cameron’s home. Not the Chicago Art Institute.

[@johnlombardo7816]

👏👏👏👏

[@ironman4do]

@@lukeliles3859 "its in a museum (okay an art gallery, but Ferris does refer to it as a museum.) that Cameron connects to art" - ivyburrows9763 Cameron connects to art while in the Art Institute of Chicago, which Ferris calls a museum in the movie. In the OP Ivy tried to correct him by saying it's an art gallery. JZStudiosonline corrected Ivy that it is indeed a museum, and this correction was correct. No clue where you got anything about where they filmed Cameron's home out of the OP. 🤷 The AIC is most definitely a museum, one of the oldest and largest art museums in the US in fact. I was born & raised in Chicago, I've been to the AIC many times, it's a cool place. I even have photos of me & friends recreating some scenes from this movie, as I'm sure many others have. 😃

[@johnnynephrite6147]

some people are slow to catch the obvious

[@it-s-a-mystery]

That fact about Paul Hirsch saying "You should only cut when absolutely necessary" explains why Ferris is such a comfy and relaxed film for me.

[@modusponen2]

Wish every movie was like this. Movies today have to have a ridiculously fast pace, like the braindead audience will fall asleep otherwise. This is the polar opposite of a Michael Bay film.

[@MrWolfSnack]

KZbinrs don't know this. They will cut just to skip ahead 3 seconds.

[@it-s-a-mystery]

@@modusponen2 David Lynch loves to let scenes breathe, though not always giving comfort, but anxiety lol. Recommend his filmography though if you haven't seen much of his work.

[@hannahdeforest9148]

The older I get, the more I like this movie. It's so completely unhinged and ridiculous. It shouldn't have worked, but it did. Loved hearing a bit of the editing history, and I would really enjoy any character breakdowns you decide to post. Your stuff always fascinates and inspires me.

[@MrWolfSnack]

It worked because he pre-planned it and believed it would work. He's Ferris Bueller.

[@KingTheRat]

I grew up in the 80s in Chicago and the movie captured the city the way it was when I was kid. Love this movie!

[@ug1280]

Thanks! I really appreciate the way you break down various aspects of movie-making, helping me to better understand the craft and to see my old favorites in new ways!

[@DaveUnreally]

Great video! Quick note about Rocky being written in 3 days. Stallone clarified that it took him only 3 days to write the first draft of Rocky, and it was trash. It ended up taking him weeks to clean it up, and then a little longer to get it where it was ready. It's important to note because it's valuable for us all to know we can do it, just get a messy first draft down so that you can then have something to shape. And it's extremely rare for first drafts to be shown. Most of the time people share 3rd or later drafts, where the story is mostly nailed down and everything is figured out. Then, after this polished version of the script is seen and sold, it's bought by someone who wants to mold it into something that makes sense for them, or "gives them a reason to make it" from their own lens. Ron Howard mentions this in his Masterclass, and John Krasinski did this with "A Quiet Place," to name a few examples.

[@krystalharris79]

Thanks for mentioning this! And the suggestion of just getting out a "messy first draft" - sometimes that's all someone needs to get from seed germination to polished diamond (mixed metaphors, but y'know what I'm trying to say! LOL) I think hearing how Hughes was that extremely rare screenwriter who would work from a basically-first draft is helpful in knowing how, again - extremely rare it is that something like that was / is ever done! He must have that rare gift or talent in being able to edit in-house (that is, inside his head) so the final outpouring of his thoughts is pretty much plug & play!

[@TheAmazingest]

It's really difficult writing even a short film where the first draft is good enough to shoot, let alone a feature film. I definitely need other people to see it and give me feedback. Maybe after 10 drafts, it's good enough to shoot, hopefully.

[@pdemling]

The best kind of commentary shows you a new perspective about something you love, that you'd never considered before; that makes you appreciate it even more. The thing has not changed, but is now a fuller, richer experience. Another wonderful example of that here. Thank you for sharing! : )

[@CinemaStix]

Thank YOU for watching!

[@murmerjangle3016]

@@CinemaStixReally, you did a great job. Keep up the good work!

[@mikeoveli1028]

After taking a film class, i am shocked that editing isn't up there with best movie and director. The editor is the movie maker.

[@mishmashmedley]

I'm one of those guys that grew up with this movie in the 80s. And this film was a large part of me and my formative years as I identified so much with Cameron, and I am glad you point out that it is more his story than Ferris'. I don't know if anyone else had a friend like Ferris, but I kind of did--not quite as fantastical, of course, but one of those guys who seemed to live a charmed life and for whom nothing went wrong. But the majority of the audience....yeah, we were all Cameron, stressed out and too worried about everything to enjoy some of the funnest years of your life before you have to become a responsible adult. On a side note, I learned a lot of mannerisms and goofiness from this movie that I would watch over and over to practice and get them down. For example, the water drop sound Cam does, I watched over and over and practiced until I could get it right, and ended up annoying so many teachers with it.... Also, the Baseball scene where Cam chants "He can't hit, he can't hit, he can't hit, he can't hit, he can't hit" all ran together so fast you can barely understand what it is sometimes. So, for all of us normal kids, no matter what generation we are from, 80s aughts or 20s, I hope people learn that it is ok to live a little now and then. You deserve it.

[@cardigansrule]

Exactly. Cameron is clearly the protagonist here.

[@obscure.reference]

i knew a guy who could hit any part of his head to make that water drop sound

[@konroh2]

Never knew it was "He can't hit," wow.

[@iiovemiku]

As someone who originally watched this movie in 2019, it still hit home for me as a coming-of-age movie. It still is one of my favorite movies, and I really love how at the end it was highlighted that this really is a movie about Cameron rather than Ferris.

[@mundanestuff]

We're both. Then there's the whole "Ferris doesn't exist" theory. Especially when you look at the way the Sloane looks at him in a few shots, and a bunch of other clues. She's Cameron's girlfriend, but only loves the Ferris side of his personality, and she's fully aware Cameron has to maintain the Ferris image while inside is his true personality, Cameron. Cameron wears Ferris as a mask. It's an interesting theory.

[@paulhopkins5051]

Ferris Bueller is one of my all time favourite movies and Ferris has remained one of the absolute best characters.

[@The_Gallowglass]

Since nobody asked and I'm a weirdo⤵ 0:04 Ohio street exit to River North from I-90. :D Trees are bigger and a lot more of them since 1986 (38 years), but it is unmistakable. Hello John Hancock to the east. Green building...333 West Wacker Drive, and the Sears Tower. 4:33 South on LSD, the Little House on the Lakefront Trail in Lincoln Park. Lake Michigan is to the left of them (our right). 5:01 The Art Institute 5:20 Old Comiskey Park (White Sox Park) on the south side 5:43 They're still at Comiskey Park, but you can see people in Cubs attire, meaning it was supposed to be a cross town classic match between the White Sox and Cubs. 5:46 Up in the Skydeck of the Sears Tower 5:51 Art Institute, Auguste rodin, Statue, Ritratto di balzac "Portrait of Balzac", 1893 6:07 Dearborn and Adams, right across from the Chicago Picasso. The Berghoff, historic German restaurant is nextdoor. You're welcome.

[@ckeilah]

I once played hooky from work and on my "day off" I went out to see a movie. That movie was Ferris Bueller's Day Off! :-D

[@toodlepop]

i tried to play hooky one time. school started at 8am, my parents were called by 8:05, my cell phone rang at 8:07, and i was at school by 8:15 :(

[@laurabowles]

@@toodlepop Ferris Bueller is definitely one of those movies where pretty much the entire plot would not work in a world with cell phones.

[@masterk99999]

I was in the 9th grade when Ferris Bueller's Day Off came out. I cut school that day with a few friends and took the bus to the movie theater to see an afternoon showing. Full of kids cutting school. 🙂

[@toodlepop]

@@laurabowles i was SO certain that it wasn't going to work that i was literally 5 minutes down the road eating breakfast at mcdonalds just waiting for my phone to ring. i think i just said there was traffic. they were a little suspicious at school when 6 of us pulled into school 15 minutes late at the exact same time with fast food lol.

[@superdave1949]

I was home from work with the flu when I caught Ferris Bueller on HBO; I really felt for Cameron.

[@PatricioMarino]

What are you doing here? Go, the video is over.

[@marcblanchet678]

noice.

[@journeym4n-l5s]

You beat me by 3 hours. I was ready to make this joke.

[@pleasureincontempt3645]

@@journeym4n-l5s Can you imagine the upvotes!? Being the biggest fish in the pond for arbitrary, niche, KZbin credibility. I’m sad you missed it.

[@13thcentury]

​@marcblanchet678 lol. The noice guy blocked me on twitter... because I typed "woke" on a random vid. No idea what the context was. I was drunk. But hey 😅😅😅

[@cardigansrule]

well done

[@ChrisSche]

I remember getting lost once in the highland park/Glencoe area. I randomly pull over to set my GPS and look out my window and I was parked in front of Cameron's house. It was a magical moment.

[@tlcrf80mins73]

Took my ex on our first date to see FBDO. My love for the film has lasted much longer. Beautifully shot - you could stop it at any frame and have a perfect work of art on your hands. And I always thought that its edit was sublime - a metronome for the pace of the film. Great take on it.

[@Vikanuck]

8:13 - 🎶”When Cam’ron was in Egypt land… Letttt myyy Cam’ronnn goooooo…”

[@DarkHelmet1976]

That shot is a great laugh, but it's also Cameron pleading for release from the bondage of his home life and his own mind. Like so much in FBDO, it works as light comedy while also saying so much more. And even if I couldn't put my finger on that as a 10 year old seeing it for the first time, I think the depth of the movie is apparent to anyone even if it's on a sub-cognitive level which is why it has always felt like more than just a fun, high school comedy.

[@Splucked]

Character / script analysis would be great! Thankful that they edited Ferris Bueller into the film that we have today. Been watching it with my daughter since she was 9 years old. She's now 46 and we still quote lines & trade memes about it all the time. It will always be special to us.

[@hannahdeforest9148]

I second this!

[@Stonewielder]

I LOVE the music in the museum scene. When Cameron is staring at the painting (the child), it felt really emotional to me.

[@Chazbc]

"when the editor has to fix it in post" Basically every movie ever.

[@dj71162]

That is literally the job of the editor.

[@TheRealPotoroo]

No. That's just lazy rhetoric that ignores the fact that the editor fundamentally constructs every movie as part of their job.

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

a brotha said somethin right there mm-hmm

[@samus88]

@@TheRealPotoroo To this day I just don't understand why people talk about movies like they're not a team effort. Usually people go into either "x wrote this movie, it's great", or "y directed this movie, it's great". Like a single person writes a movie and whatever they wrote is 1to1 replicated on screen? Or a director literally makes a movie himself, without other people being involved whatsoever? Not to mention editors, of course which is the subject here.

[@TheRealPotoroo]

@@samus88 LOL, welcome to auteur theory. On the one hand, films are absolutely team efforts. On the other, nobody would ever confuse a Scorsese movie with one by Bergman.

[@modusponen2]

Great analysis. One of the best movies ever made. And, without hesitation, the music change is what saved the museum scene; it's complete magic. I bought my first Smiths album from that scene and hated Morrissey's whiney crooning for 2 years until I acquired proper taste. Funny, though, how well that worked without a single bar from his voice... The producers were like, hey uh, you guys happen to have an instrumental version of this one? HAHA!

[@bassadelica]

Great video. I remember at the time how powerful that Art Museum scene was, hearing The Smiths' "Please Please Please" instrumentally. Gave me the chills. so beautiful focusing in on the paint strokes on canvas

[@NinetyTres]

Still does

[@antipusrises]

I completely forgot about the dreaded pan-and-scan until you mentioned it.

[@CinemaStix]

Haha. Then I’m sorry.

[@antipusrises]

@@CinemaStix No worries! One should never forget what the TV took from us.

[@TheRealPotoroo]

@@CinemaStix No, no. People should know about that horror, if only as a form of inoculation.

[@CinemaStix]

I guess to be fair to this movie, I did cheat a bit here. I cropped the footage myself because I only had access to the main version of the movie and wanted to illustrate a point that Hirsch brought up a couple times in interviews about the affect of pan and scan on some of the wide shots. But in actuality, the full screen VHS tape did give us more vertical space, since it was cropped from the original open matte version of the movie. It still takes away from some of those shots in width. But it’s not quite as egregious as that. I talked about this a little in my Batman: Mask of the Phantasm video from a few months ago, and I’m gonna cover it again with regards to Lord of the Rings at some point, using proper full screen sources. Which I just didn’t have for Ferris Bueller.

[@RetroBlockade]

@@CinemaStix Lord of the Rings is my favorite movie trilogy ever, so I can't wait for that.

[@emmagrove6491]

It's amazing what a good editor can do. Kubrick and many directors look at the footage as the raw material that they then have to sculpt into shape in the editing, that THAT's where the film really becomes what it is.

[@biligator]

The deleted pancreas scene had me so confused! I was like, if it got deleted, then why do I have this clear memory of Matthew Broderick saying the word "pancreas" in his New York accent? And then you showed the "we saw priceless works of art... we ate pancreas!" clip from later in the movie. Mystery solved. Also, the line works great with the context removed by the edit, like it's just a euphemism for "ate at a fancy restaurant."

[@CinemaStix]

Totally! They could’ve removed that line when they removed the scene. But as you say, a perfect substitution. Our brains fill in the meaning.

[@AG-iu9lv]

It's a bit of a throwaway line, but the delivery is gold and it turned out super funny. Sharp viewers will think back to Cameron's faces in the restaurant and bring the joke full circle. So glad they kept it in.

[@twiora]

There must be another cut scene with Jeanie (Shawna) getting into a couple of car accidents. Ferris’s mom references it when she gets home at the end of the day. I always suspected it was part of the Save Ferris water tower scene as that scene is short and random.

[@AJ-HawksToxicFinger]

Love hearing Blowout getting a shout out. Also Loved you sharing an idea of how much is missed when they shrink motion pictures for the old school 4:3 small screen/TV 4:09

[@aarond9563]

Danny, you'e so good at this. You're really killing it! You've really found your identity and it's cool to see.

[@RantingAboutMovies]

When your favorite video essayist makes a video about your favorite comedy

[@OrlyVlogt]

Favorites meet favorites, thats why they're favorites

[@TacomaSlim]

😄😢

[@michaelrysko]

I loved that side by side cut at the end with the homage to Ferris’ final run home. Gold!

[@jeremyvettech5562]

What's it from?

[@sapphodyl]

@@jeremyvettech5562I hadn’t seen it either - turns out it’s a Domino’s commercial from about 6 years ago. There are (at least) two of them that are shot-for-shot recreations, with new dialogue for advertising. You can videos of them if you search here on youtube

[@talkingmuffins9560]

@@jeremyvettech5562 Domino's Pizza commercial

[@dekiru6718]

They even got Alan Ruck to sub Ferris's dad lmao

[@jcurrie3577]

@@talkingmuffins9560 Thank you. I really enjoyed it but we didn't have that commercial over here so I was thinking "Did they remake FBDO?"

[@scubasteve2189]

Man, that museum scene always hit me emotionally, even as a kid, in a way that I didn’t even really understand. 🤷🏻‍♂️🥺

[@oscarleedefur]

It was mostly due to The Smiths making great music.

[@jaysharpESQ]

me too. i blame the smiths (who i REALLY got into at the end of my HS years and in College)

[@119Agent]

@@oscarleedefur Isn't it the Dream Academy version used in the film?

[@enekaitzteixeira1070]

Because it's the emotional equivalent of a nuclear explosion turned into butterflies. Everything about it is f_ing perfect.

[@NelsonStJames]

That scene is an excellent example of the power of images and music.

[@JeremyVerburg]

As an editor myself, I love video's like these! Great video man!

[@allanrousselle]

Yet another great video, and yes, I'd love your take on the many other aspects of Ferris Bueller's Day Off. It's such a fun movie to analyze, pick apart, reflect upon, and then watch again completely without overthinking it. LOVE the points you brought up about the edits, though. So much of storytelling happens in the editing room.

[@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote]

watching this movie with my mom was cool because it felt like it embodied everything id heard of the 80’s or so, the spirit of it and how others who grew up in it interpreted it

[@PeteQuad]

Yes. It also embodied many of our generations' view on life.

[@jamesabernethy7896]

These scene or concept breakdowns are amazing. Light-hearted but also educational at the same time.

[@dalmudi3539]

My top 5 all time favorite movie's list has changed slightly over the decades, but since 1986, every list has had Ferris Bueller's Day Off on it. I never knew about it being "out of order." Now that I know the brilliance of the editing that was done, I think I like the movie even more now (if that's even possible). Thank you for sharing this.

[@rainbowmustachereviews]

I literally watched this the other day. I appreciate it more on rewatch

[@ptrelc]

That this was really the story about Cameron and his relationship with his dad! That is brilliant! I love that Hughes would bury so deep and profound a theme so discretely in a comedy movie with a different protagonist. I would love to hear more about character development. Thanks Danny!

[@stevejazzexile381]

I also believe this movie is more about Cameron than Ferris, although I didn't realize it until I rewatched it as an adult. Thanks for your work...always brilliant.

[@danielpalasek9031]

This. This is the sixth sense moment, when you realize not only is the movie not about Ferris, but that Ferris doesn't even exist. The movie is about Cameron, and it's arguable that Ferris is entirely a figment of Cameron's imagination. Think about this, the next time you watch it, and at least consider it.

[@lordtryforce]

​@@danielpalasek9031I've heard people mention this several times over the years. Fight Club similarities It definitely fits into something i've noticed since I was a kid watching this in 80s. Sloane's body language, smile, eye contact was a little different towards Cameron. I wouldn't be surprised the actress has little crush on Alan Ruck at the time. Then again I've always been naive to this stuff and didn't pick up Matthew Broderick & Jennifer Grey who dating at the time.

[@danielpalasek9031]

@@lordtryforce Fight Club is a much better reference. All the cutting-loose actions going on in this scenario is Cameron. Cameron sang and danced at the parade. Cameron busted Sloane out of school. Heck, Sloane is even Cameron's girlfriend. Even the kids on the phone in the school hall talking to "Ferris" Is Cameron's alter ego. It almost works, if you squint a little. Ferris' family is a little tougher to explain away. The point of this video is that the final movie post-edit doesn't match the original script. It's fun to think the story could've gone a whole different direction.

[@lordtryforce]

@@danielpalasek9031 We never see Cameron's parents. Only mentioned. Father was abusive and cared more about his car. Maybe a made up excuse to take the vehicle. Ferris parents could be Cameron's. Notice Cameron hid in taxi too after seeing Ferris father.

[@danielpalasek9031]

@@lordtryforce oooh I got chills. I love this theory.

[@vinapocalypse]

The song they chose in the museum scene ("Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want") *was* indeed written by The Smiths but the performance for this movie was an instrumental version by The Dream Academy (who are probably best known for their song "Life in a Northern Town"). They also have a full version with vocals, which is IMO better than The Smiths' version, with DA's choice of mood, instruments, and Nick Laird-Clowes voice plus the backing vocals. The instrumental version hits just the right notes of dreaminess, longing, and melancholy and was *perfect* for the scene.

[@fredgarvin716]

Yes, and I searched for The Dream Academy instrumental version back when the movie came out and it was impossible to find. I never understood why they didn't release a soundtrack. Now you can find it all over the place.

[@vs-ej1qc]

i 100% agree, i love the dream academy versione more

[@kyoungphoto]

John Hughes had a habit of using The Dream Academy. They are used again in FBDO at the parting of Sloan and Ferris "Edge of Forever" and then in Planes Trains and Automobiles "Power to Believe". They are a very evocative band with only three albums. I've been a silly level fan since they came out.

[@colinkulowcreative]

Thanks! You saved me a ton of time typing out a similar comment!😂

[@sonorex]

I love the KZbin comment section.

[@jaimemkirby]

I remember watching this on this with my mom in the early 90s, and she pointed out how great and different the editing was-how they would linger just a little longer on Ed Rooney or Grace or whoever. She used to always say that’s why it was special and that’s why we all loved it so much. Not sure why I never did a deep dive into Paul Hirsch before now. So thank you!!

[@jh1328]

When I was younger, I loved the content. As an adult, I still love the content, but can appreciate the beautiful editing of this film so much more.

[@txinterceptor8428]

Kind of a nice touch that a video about how the editing in a film makes the film better is also itself edited very well.

[@Mo_Ketchups]

Saw this opening weekend at a Woodland Hills theater (“The Valley”) & the audience was _packed_ w students from nearby Taft High. Being surrounded in the bullseye of its target demo, I’ll never forget the unusually loud laughter-girls _scream_ laughing throughout it. Decades later, I STILL have that night etched into my memory as one of the two best movie crowds ever (the 2nd being “Fast Times” _in_ the Sherman Oaks Galleria, inside the mall/theater it was filmed). Even more visceral crowd reactions. Please forgive the reverie! 👀🤦‍♂️🙏

[@ajworden]

Seems like we are roughly the same age - I’m extremely envious of you!

[@cardigansrule]

Nice. Mine are seeing Jaws and a few other horror movies in the 80s like Friday the 13th. But the best was opening night for Aliens at the Radio City theater in NYC. Audience literally screaming and cheering at the action. What we don't get watching at home....

[@scherzva]

I saw it at the former theater in Northridge at Parthenia and Tampa and Kirk Cameron (who went to Chatsworth with me) walked into the theater and caused quite a stir.

[@walker1812]

Nice. Mine? I’ll never forget opening night for Hunt for Red October. Theater was packed past capacity. People were sitting in the aisle for a chance to see it.

[@kirk1968]

Class of 1986 checking in, that must have been an amazing experience! No surprise that you will never forget it, kinda jealous here hahaha. I saw it in Flagstaff, AZ and everyone at school talked about it for weeks. What a time to be a teenager.

[@ZachDigitalTV]

working with John Hughes would have been a dream as an Editor? You know how much easier it is to have MORE footage than LESS footage. You get to create your own world as Paul Hersch as long as Hughes isn't breathing down his neck saying "WE NEED THIS IN HERE, THIS TOO, THIS TOO"

[@joshua.h]

Having more footage is often worse than less footage as it often means less intent behind the shots taken. I'm not saying John Hughes was bad, but many bad directors take way too many angles and it makes the movie non cohesive.

[@ZachDigitalTV]

@@joshua.h in a Michael Mann sense I totally understand this because the stories of that guy wanting to do 100 takes on every shot is insane. I can definitely see your angle behind this though, don't necessarily want to be the "PUT THAT SHOT BECAUSE IT LOOKS COOL" guy, purpose is key as you're stating. I think Hughes and Hirsch were good at deciphering this between each other at the time and why it worked. Plus simple stories are often the best to edit/tell.

[@bobbyblazini]

Working would be a dream

[@joshua.h]

@@ZachDigitalTV totally agree. Not saying one way or the other is always good/bad. Good directors can make great movies with a ton of extra camera angles, and very few.

[@Noisy_Cricket]

I rather have more footage rather than less. The fact Star Wars had a lot of footage saved it. I feel like the only way I'd feel comfortable making a movie with very little extra footage is with story boarding.

[@MrBaskins2010]

this was my favorite movie as a kid. i invited all my classmates (30+) to my moldy one bedroom apartment to watch this movie. to my surprise, they ALL showed up. every single person

[@driesketels805]

Pan and Scan 🤯 I did not know.... now I understand why those movies on tv looked so dense... I'll have to rewatch em all. thanks for this! 🧡

[@hannnnahhahhahha]

This is my all time favorite movie. It was lovely to learn more about it. Thank you!

[@ImB4k4]

Ferris Bueller is such a fun and thoroughly strange movie, I'd love to hear more of your take on it. Bonus points if you bring up the subsequent TV show and how it somehow managed to swing and miss on everything that anyone actually liked about the movie!

[@CinemaStix]

So funny story. Part of the reason I didn’t talk about character much in this one is because I had a whole thing planned out that was going to incorporate the show. But the only place I could find a copy of the show was on Etsy. And it took almost six weeks to arrive. At some point it had just become too late and I had to readjust. But totally, you can expect a mention of it if I end up doing a follow up. For sure.

[@TheySuckFatLongDonkeyLogs]

@@CinemaStix Those parallel scenes at the end of your video, what show were they from? I see Alan Ruck in there, but for the life of me I cannot seem to figure out what show that was from.

[@CaptainEffort]

@@CinemaStixThat’d be cool to see, I didn’t even know there was a show

[@brainfat1]

What's funny about that show is a different show on Fox straight ripped-off FBDO and perhaps because they weren't hemmed-in by continuity people would expect from a direct sequel, they were able to capture the spirit and fun of the movie while the official version felt uninspired.

[@ImB4k4]

@@brainfat1 Huh, what show is that?

[@drumennie2181]

Thanks for this! I almost never comment online, but this was so well told and offered insight I have never had on a classic and formative movie for me. It also draws the same conclusion that I had many years go; this movie is about Cameron and Ferris is the relief needed in a story like this.

[@TheElectricMayhem]

I was just appreciating Alan Ruck’s exceptional performance the other day.

[@Rad9000]

"He'll keep calling me, and calling me . ." This has to be the most visceral and relatable scene in the movie. (A week doesn't go by where something in life doesn't make me want to reenact this scene)

[@pawacoteng]

His expression when Sloan asked if he saw her changing was priceless. Been a fan of Ruck since noticing him on Going Places.

[@deanlesner3055]

There's a lot of poorly researched material on this site, so it's extremely rare for me to be this impressed by a KZbin video. You have presented information about this movie that I have not seen elsewhere, and you've offered a fascinating glimpse into the some of the high-level aspects of editing. Thanks for doing this, and keep up the great work. I think I can learn a lot about the craft by subscribing. As I continue to chip away at a screenplay in my spare time, I'll take consolation in knowing I'm still ahead of Tarantino's pace for Inglorious Basterds. 🙂

[@prettyinpodcast]

Such a great subject and incredible coverage! Hughes is such an unusual character and I'd argue that his editors likely saved/made every one of his films.

[@ericjorgensen6425]

Yes! This is Cameron's story. Ferris and Roony are gods in a contest for Cameron's soul.

[@ricric9521]

Ferris is the modern hero. The modern hero is not perfect, but most of all, facilitates the growth of people around him and benefits from their help when needed. It isn't just Cameron that grows. it is his sister as well. In return, they help him in his adventure and quest for the best day ever.

[@mixmashandtinker3266]

Me and a friend skipped school a Monday morning to go see this one. We were the only two persons in the theatre. 😂😂😂

[@PeteQuad]

I bet none of your classmates remember what was taught that day!

[@arthur.m2528]

I love this one so much, i remember my parents telling me so passionately how good it was, and it hitting unbelievably hard. A yearly rewatch, always with company, always a joy

[@fraaggl]

give it to us man, the full package, total character analysis, from sneakers to cap.

[@michaelccopelandsr7120]

I've had a crush on Mia Sara for as long as I can remember.

[@MiaogisTeas]

Doesn't everyone? Every girl I've ever loved has been a mix of her and Jennifer Connelly

[@theofficialdiamondlou2418]

The pool scene was great. Nobody flashed 😻 in those days. But she did. 💎

[@OateyMeal]

Amen

[@Frank-Lee-Speeking]

Who could resist her? She's utterly gorgeous in this film.

[@Hummerbird99]

I had a crush on Jennifer Grey.

[@mauryhatcher]

I just realized: Ferris is Gandalf, the wizard who seemingly can do it all and somehow always manages to do so; Cameron is Bilbo, being led out the door by Gandalf on a grand adventure that changes him into someone else, someone better; and Sloan perhaps is Galadriel in her caring for Ferris/Gandalf, his root and center keeping his wild ambitions and abilities from taking off into too great a height while also providing comfort and understanding to Cameron/Bilbo. Such a great film.

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

Whenever I think about this movie I'm like "eh yeah it's a good movie" but whenever I sit down to actually watch it I just think "holy butt cheeks this is Hughes' magnum opus" because literally everything feels so deliberate and there's these small details and throughlines that lead you along but then to find out that A: he also wrote it in that short of a time frame, B: people didn't originally get to see it in its best state (18:9) and C: it wasn't even originally ordered like this, I can't quite put my finger on whether that makes this even better or not. Because to have writing so modular that you can entirely restructure the movie and have every individual scene still work perfectly on its own AND have a coherent throughline? Absolutely insane. We genuinely don't get movies like this anymore, holy moly. Would love to see a bigger deep dive into it!

[@Me__Myself__and__I]

This and Some Kind of Wonderful are Hughes two best. And they both hold up and are still fun to watch decades later.

[@murmerjangle3016]

I was a little bit older than the target audience when it came out. And, I remember thinking, "Oh. Okay, that was fun. Nice popcorn movie." Now, at age 60 it is a blast to watch because it brings up so much nostalgia and the cleverness of the movie has really grown on me.

[@EconAtheist]

@@Me__Myself__and__I amandaaa jonnnnnnes / amandaaaa jonnnnnes /roundandroundandroundandroundand

[@Me__Myself__and__I]

@@EconAtheist It has a great soundtrack, love the energy of the opening scene.

[@subsonicdeathmonkey]

This movie is the best of John Hughes, for me. It was such a thrill to see as a teenager and I love it to this day. Thanks for the education!

[@chipcook5346]

I was around for this back in the day when it was in the theater, and it was truly amazing. I really, really appreciate your work explaining this.

[@growthandunderstanding]

Excellent analysis, Mr. Boyd! First time viewer; immediate subscriber.

[@CinemaStix]

Welcome welcome! Lots in the bag, and lots more to come :)

[@growthandunderstanding]

@@CinemaStix Cheers

[@twsbibanghorn7343]

2:02 I will never call it a new hope, it was and still is Star Wars.

[@stevevernon1978]

Star Wars won an Oscar (Oscars?) A New Hope won NOTHING!

[@migueldelmazo5244]

He's right. It's one of 2 Star Wars movies ever made. What's that? Nope. Never heard of them. I'm positive there are only 2 Star Wars movies. It's just like the Aliens frachise and Godfather.

[@marketads1]

I’m realizing now that Ferris and friends are a whacky updated Catcher in the Rye. Not post-war malaise but wealth and comfort facing inner conflict.

[@jaysharpESQ]

I guess because I saw it as a kid and not too long after I had to read it in school so I always thought it was super derivative- or maybe even a remake? Like to say it's an homage or "was inspired by" doesn't seem to do justice. Doesn't seem to give Holden Caufield's day off enough credit ;-)

[@El_Smeghead]

You can't top this movie. Seen it every few months since its release.

[@vgsquirrel]

Man perfect timing for this video! Just got back from a trip to Chicago and hit up a few locations in the movie. I fell in love with the city!

[@tscimb]

Fantastic, as always! ❤

[@CinemaStix]

:D

[@burville100]

Love this film . Reminds me of simpler times.

[@MVHighlight]

I need to see the 3 hour version of Ferris.

[@krystalharris79]

This analysis was very cool - thank you! I long ago gave up my dream of being an editor, but the interest and understanding still runs strong, so this resonates. FWIW, I've never seen Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and this has far from spoiled me! I'm intrigued more than ever! I'm suggesting it for this weekend's movie list when I hang out with my movie-night buddy! We usually focus on 80s movies, and I can't wait to watch through the filters you've set up! Cheers! 👏💥🤩

[@James-km7yz]

Thank you for reminding me. Ferris Bueller is a great movie.

[@molagbula]

0:32 THROW MAMA FROM THE TRAIN MENTIONED!!!! LET'S GO!!!

[@grumpytoad86]

Would love to see a deeper analysis of the characters and script of this film. You're great at those and I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.

[@CinemaStix]

Adding it to the schedule now :)

[@tomscott7547]

Love this!

[@Laceykat66]

Fascinating. I always love to hear aobut what goes on BEHIND the glitz and glitter of making a movie. Nobody ever thinks of the editor as being anyone important. They cut and paste the movie. Big deal. This was even a point made in All That Jazz. THis type of story shows how editing can save a bad movie. Great job and yes, a character study would be appreciated. Thank you.

[@michaelrhudak]

My only complaint with this movie was always that baseball games are about three hours long and would take up way too much of anyone's day off.

[@jorymil]

The Cubs were up by 11, so they left early :-)

[@KevinT3141]

No one ever said they watched the whole thing. No anthem, no first pitch...

[@obiwanpez]

@jorymil - The most unbelievable part of the movie. ;)

[@justinjelinek8420]

One you realize the whole movie takes place in Cameron's head, it all makes sense.

[@saintdismas]

Not to mention the time they eat up in getting ready in the morning, convincing Cameron to go with, getting Sloan out of school, traffic into the city, getting from the game to the museum, eating a meal in the restaurant, etc. It's a suspension of disbelief that you just have to go with.

[@victorvolobuev507]

Was there a Ferris Bueller copying video sequence in Stranger Things? 8:34

[@thechubbzchannel5317]

It’s from a dominos ad I’m pretty sure

[@toshibavoodoo]

I cried when Hughs died. So much of my teens he put on screen

[@AndyMizrahi1]

This was such a powerful storytelling video, showcasing how valuable the editor was in this whole process, and was forgotten. I mean, this editor chopped up some of the greatest films of our generation, and then did this teen comedy. it's amazing.

[@Freddy-ll6wr]

why is this channel so good. literally the sibling of every frame a painting

[@jjchello]

That entire comedic scene in Braveheart where William Wallace is told his chance of getting out alive by Stephen while covered under shields as arrows rain down upon them was created through editing. The bits of dialogue were clipped from a much longer scene that wasn’t funny at all. Rearranging them, even chronologically, made that iconic joke about God being pretty sure Wallace is f****d. Haha

[@usagi2988]

@8:31 ...I'm sorry, but what is Joe Keery doing in a reenactment of Ferris Bueller's? And is that Cameron playing the dad character later on in the same reenactment? 'Scuse me, I gotta go do some internet searching.

[@yehnahthx]

I found it. It was a Dominos Advert from 2017. I think linking it would block my comment, but you should be able to find it with this information

[@hiltonian_1260]

I relate Ferris Bueller to Office Space. The question being asked is, “What if you decided not to care about what society wants of you and just decided to be true to yourself?” What other movies are like that?

[@rahulmodi8706]

Silence of the lambs (Hannibal & the male killer)!

[@jorymil]

Risky Business. Pump up the Volume. Some Kind of Wonderful.

[@WAFFENFABRIK]

Falling Down and American History X

[@PeteQuad]

Yes but not exactly. I don't see it as completely not caring. To me it is more about occasionally letting loose and the amazing experiences you can have as a result

[@krystalharris79]

@@PeteQuad Sometimes you just gotta say, "What the fuck, make your move." ... 😉😋

[@beemerwt4185]

Woah. That part where you revealed the aspect ratio difference really gave me perspective of why going to the movies back in the day was so much more valuable than it is nowadays. Now we have these massive in-home theaters that cost as low as $1000 for a 4k experience on a LED widescreen. I know movie theaters still have a bunch of features that can improve the overall experience of the movie, but none of them are more obvious than the screen itself. However, back then it was absolutely necessary to go to the movie theaters to see the whole picture.

[@luxdalet]

Fantastic video! Makes me appreciate the movie even more. Work of a good editor is vital.

[@tticusFinch]

Please do character and story analysis! It's also worth mentioning that Cameron isnt the only one who grows. Remember Jeanie! She begins with all these expectations for herself and others and is frustrated that only she seems to be the only person who can see past Ferris' attempts to dodge those expectations and responsibilities. After confronting Mr Rooney, her expectations for his behavior were destroyed and her expectations for the police to respond to her emergency fell short too. By the end of the movie, she's started to let go of worrying about expectations for herself and others, ultimately leading to her backing up Ferris in front of Rooney.

[@jneilson7568]

I loved that she got that arc. And gave Rooney a much-deserved kick in the face. 😂

[@JaviCastillo_89]

So this is Fight Club and Ferris is Tyler Durden

[@CinemaStix]

Precisely. Which makes the Ferrari 250 GT Cali.. Angel Face.

[@tobybartels8426]

@@JaviCastillo_89 : Yes, there's a popular fan theory that says that Ferris is a figment of Cameron's imagination and Sloan is a girl he has a crush on who barely knows he exists.

[@obscure.reference]

@@tobybartels8426 lol nonsense

[@rottensquid]

@@tobybartels8426 No, man. Sloane is Cameron's girlfriend. He's just so stuck in his self-loathing, he projects everything she likes about him onto his fantasy bro. Because of course, no one like Sloane could like a guy like Cameron.

[@tobybartels8426]

@@rottensquid : I like that. Even sadder, in a way

[@_Snorri]

Hey, just noticed video gone to "unpublic" :o What happened?

[@callmeacab]

This commentary is so well done. I don’t have any kind of profound comment. I just really wanted to show my appreciation for your very good work.

[@MiserableLittleDoomGoblin]

Editors are rarely given the spotlight in public for their role of creating cohesion and pacing. Nice to see this giving them the recognition due them.