Islamic Tradition Is Full of Contradictions! - Creating the Qur'an with Dr. Jay - Episode 17

[@dextarwilliams4818]

Internet debunk Quran game over

[@normalisoverrated]

Without LIES islam DIES

[@alexandernorman5337]

Don't underestimate a muslims ability to drink the koolaide.

[@fraudulentzakirnaik74]

God bless you guys immensely

[@praneshramchandran6175]

@fraudulentzakirnaik74, YES...Lord YHWH, Lord YHWHsheye ( the original name of Jesus Christ), Angel Gabriel & Mother Mary will bless both Al-Abdul Fahdi and Dr. Jay Smith immensely !

[@JesusSaid-IAndTheFatherAreOne]

@@praneshramchandran6175 Please dont Call Angels and mother Mary for help, they cant answer not bless anyone.

[@Reign-3]

Jesus of the New Testament is false prophet according to the Bible “When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken” Deuteronomy 18:21-22 Jesus’ failed prophecy: Jesus made a prophecy that some of his followers would witness his second coming. He said "Truly I tell you, some of you standing here will not taste death before you see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Matthew 26:28 However, his second coming has not happened and it is been 2000 years, meaning that his prophecy has not come to pass. Christians don’t try to re-interpret the plain verse. Just accept it. his prophecy failed.

[@Reign-3]

Can you deal with these Bible contradictions? How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ? •Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17) •But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16) Who was the father of Shelah? •Cainan (Luke 3:35-36) •Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12) Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come? •Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13) •No (John 1:19-21) Would Jesus inherit Davids throne? •Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32) •No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16, And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30) Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals? •One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it. •Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon. Who was the father of Jechoniah? •Josiah (Matthew 1:11) •Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16) How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ? •By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17) •His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41) Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew? •By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22) •On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43) When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead? •Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died. •No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey? •Yes (Mark 6:8) •No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3) Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem? •Yes (Joshua 10:23,40) •No (Joshua 15:63) Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary? •Jacob (Matthew 1:16) •Hell (Luke 3:23) Jesus descended from which son of David? •Solomon (Matthew 1:6) •Nathan(Luke3:31) Who was the father of Shealtiel? •Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12) •Neri (Luke 3:27) Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ? •Abiud (Matthew 1: 13) •Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19,20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway. Who was the father of Uzziah? •Joram (Matthew 1:8) •Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

[@JesusSaid-IAndTheFatherAreOne]

@@Reign-3 ​ Jesus is not just a Prophet, Hes the Lord Almighty. Mathew 16:28 - Jesus Our Lord was referring to the Kingdom of God. When Jesus died and rose again on the third day, the kingdom was established. The kingdom of God is currently here. All those that are saved by Jesus are part of the Kingdom. Jesus will come back a second time. The second coming is definitely at hand for you see all that is written in Revelation happening today. Feel Free to Accept the Kingdom of Jesus.

[@adrine5193]

WITHOUT LIES ISLAM ☪️ DIES

[@Reign-3]

Jesus of the New Testament is false prophet according to the Bible “When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken” Deuteronomy 18:21-22 Jesus’ failed prophecy: Jesus made a prophecy that some of his followers would witness his second coming. He said "Truly I tell you, some of you standing here will not taste death before you see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Matthew 26:28 However, his second coming has not happened and it is been 2000 years, meaning that his prophecy has not come to pass. Christians don’t try to re-interpret the plain verse. Just accept it. his prophecy failed.

[@Reign-3]

Christianity survives on lies Can you deal with these Bible contradictions How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ? •Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17) •But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16) Who was the father of Shelah? •Cainan (Luke 3:35-36) •Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12) Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come? •Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13) •No (John 1:19-21) Would Jesus inherit Davids throne? •Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32) •No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16, And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30) Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals? •One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it. •Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon. Who was the father of Jechoniah? •Josiah (Matthew 1:11) •Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16) How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ? •By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17) •His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41) Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew? •By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22) •On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43) When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead? •Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died. •No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey? •Yes (Mark 6:8) •No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3) Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem? •Yes (Joshua 10:23,40) •No (Joshua 15:63) Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary? •Jacob (Matthew 1:16) •Hell (Luke 3:23) Jesus descended from which son of David? •Solomon (Matthew 1:6) •Nathan(Luke3:31) Who was the father of Shealtiel? •Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12) •Neri (Luke 3:27) Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ? •Abiud (Matthew 1: 13) •Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19,20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway. Who was the father of Uzziah? •Joram (Matthew 1:8) •Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

[@adrine5193]

@@Reign-3 QURAN CORRUPTED BY GOAT AISHA EIT HALF QURAN AND OTTOMAN BIN AFAN BERNIE ALL QURANS .

[@adrine5193]

@@Reign-3 IF YOU SEE MOSLEMS SWEARING ALLAH HE IS LYING TAQQIYA TAQQIYA HALAL

[@Reign-3]

⁠@@adrine5193So you cannot defend your books? Thanks for letting me know😂😂

[@DAANISH_KHAN_]

Being born Muslim and Islamic Researcher, Im 100% agreed with you.

[@TheTemplar168]

I hope this discovery has led you to Christ. May He bless you ❤✝️

[@ays2733]

They were taught not to ask questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????????????????

[@georgeo785]

Exactly, what to think and say . It's a man made cult

[@jesus_saves_from_hell_]

PEACE IN CHRIST! 🕎✝️🕊🔥

[@Reign-3]

Jesus of the New Testament is false prophet according to the Bible “When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken” Deuteronomy 18:21-22 Jesus’ failed prophecy: Jesus made a prophecy that some of his followers would witness his second coming. He said "Truly I tell you, some of you standing here will not taste death before you see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Matthew 26:28 However, his second coming has not happened and it is been 2000 years, meaning that his prophecy has not come to pass. Christians don’t try to re-interpret the plain verse. Just accept it. his prophecy failed.

[@azzamalmarzouq9522]

He was referring to.incidents like that of Saint Stephen in the book of acts. Is this the best way to debate ? Can you debate a parent about his child when a parent knows their children better than you do?

[@tyquin1414]

@@Reign-3what is your obsession here? A clear nerve has been struck with you. I pray that you find the truth you so desperately need brother ❤️ if you were so steadfast in your Islam and Allah you would think you wouldn’t be watching videos questioning it?

[@Reign-3]

@@tyquin1414 already found the truth, I’m sharing it with you, you have been lied to, nobody died for your sins; Paul ripped off an ancient motif known as the dying and rising savior man god motif, this was a belief that predated Christianity by hundreds and hundreds of years this idea that some sort of incarnation a divine son of god comes to the earth suffers and dies for the sins of humanity, what Paul did is that he gave it a Jewish makeover and he used it to explain what he believed to be “the Gospel”, before Christianity you had Osiris the savior man-god of Egypt, Adonis of Syria Romulus of rome, inanna of sumeria who's a female daughter of god and mithras the persian sun god who although he didn't actually die he did suffer for the sins of his people, there's a book called the world's 16 crucified saviors, anyway, this is just idolatry.

[@samsmith346]

Amazing work guys

[@chriswadecki1666]

Without lies islam dies.

[@joseywales3789]

*"WITHOUT THE LIES, ISLAM DIES!"*

[@Reign-3]

Lol why do you worship 3 gods? Anyway here’s a gift for you: Jesus of the New Testament is false prophet according to the Bible “When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken” Deuteronomy 18:21-22 Jesus’ failed prophecy: Jesus made a prophecy that some of his followers would witness his second coming. He said "Truly I tell you, some of you standing here will not taste death before you see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Matthew 26:28 However, his second coming has not happened and it is been 2000 years, meaning that his prophecy has not come to pass. Christians don’t try to re-interpret the plain verse. Just accept it. his prophecy failed.

[@abrahamofei1063]

​@@Reign-3Strange quotation; an invention of some sort.

[@joseywales3789]

@@Reign-3, I think that I've *Proven My Point!* ..... *"WITHOUT THE LIES, ISLAM DIES!"* You're either deceptive or ignorant/unintelligent and I hope that you are just deceptive/lying! St Patrick explained the trinity to the Irish in the 5th Century (before your pedo prophet was born) using the Shamrock ☘️... One leaf! Three parts! Take away one part and it's no longer a Shamrock ☘️... 3 in 1.... 1 in 3! So now you know that even your pedo prophet doesn't understand anything about Christianity! He thought that the Trinity was God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ) and Jesus's Mother Mary!!! But he obviously was illiterate, ignorant and unintelligent.... As for your Gift... Here's one for you:- Qur'an 8:22 Indeed the worst kind of all beasts in the sight of Allah are the people that are deaf and dumb,17 and do not understand. 17. These are the ones who neither hear nor speak the truth. So far as truth is concerned, their ears are deaf and their mouths dumb. 🤔🤔🤔🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@abrahamofei1063]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Go back to the bible and read your quotation again and you will know why I used the word 'strange'.

[@heartofpuregold]

Really appreciate the insights that my intuition was confirming. I really like that islamic arabic traditional dress which differentiates the wonderful arabic culture from the religion. These revelations from dr jay and brother al fadi shows Gods great mercy.

[@mikejohnson5059]

Hopefully they are not cutting off heads of people watching this truth in Indonesia!

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Prophet Google is stronger than Momo.

[@taheelshahid5615]

Love your work, such detailed and deep arguments, digging the hole more and more deep, God Bless U both Jay and Al Fadi

[@stevenjohnson-yx1fl]

Islam needs the bible but the bible does not need islame

[@georgeo785]

Ismalites need Jesus Christ

[@xavierbesnard9201]

Merci ! seule la vérité nous affranchit !

[@ishtarlew598]

Moslems remind me of that famous scene in 'a few good men'. "You can't handle the Truth".

[@TesseRact7228]

Islam reminds me of "Why the two orders, Colonel?"

[@vicmath1005]

After all, there were/are TWO 1slams: (a) The FIRST one that ended in 750 CE. These was/is the Nazarene 1slam. (b) The SECOND is that of the Abbasids that we see today. The Quran of today contains stuff that the Nazarenes could never have used. Such as surahs 53, 85, 113, 114 etc. Surah 85 is the text of Tawhidi (= Trinitarian) Christians. Surahs 63, 113 and 114 would have been from the Petra pagans. The compilation of the Quran, containing non-Nazarene text, would have taken place after 750 CE. A 100 years after the death of Uthman.

[@N_akowah.ekema_sevn]

Good job Brothers. When are we going to have a discourse on the surah that point to 'the people of the book's ?

[@xxphillips]

Why have Muhammad" written in the Torah and Gospel for Allah to say to Muhammad the Jews don't need you? Quran 5:43 But why do they come to you (Muhammad) for judgment when they ˹already˺ have the Torah containing Allah’s judgment,.. notice corrupted or not following Muhammad is not the issue with the Jews. 600 years after Jesus received Injil. Quran 2:120 Never will the Jews be pleased with you, (O Prophet), nor the Christians until you follow their way. Why would Jews and Christians not be pleased with Muhammad and want him to follow their ways if he is the last Prophet talked about in their books? Quran 7:157 Quran10:94 Presupposes that the people reading the scripture before Muhammad knew the truth. Jews/Christians and they rejected Muhammad. Ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. You can't ask people about the Truth who don't know the truth or are untrust worthy to tell you the Truth. Hadith (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2653) (Tawrah and Injil are with the Jews and Christians) Muhammad speaking 600 years after Jesus received Injil. Quran 5:68

[@xxphillips]

@@defenderoftruth3212 All Quran verses and Hadith are during the life time of Muhammad so bringing up Christians today doesn't work here is why? Quran 5:43 But why do they come to you (Muhammad) for judgment when they ˹already˺ have the Torah containing Allah’s judgment,.. 600 years after Jesus received Injil. Jews didn't need Muhammad, who is meant to be in their Torah. Quran 2:120 Never will the Jews be pleased with you, (O Prophet), nor the Christians until you follow their way. Why would Jews and Christians not be pleased with Muhammad and want him to follow their ways if he is already following their ways and is the last Prophet talked about in their books? Quran 7:157 Hadith (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2653) (Tawrah and Injil are with the Jews and Christians) Muhammad speaking 600 years after Jesus received Injil. More Proof based on Islamic sources kzbin.info/www/bejne/manQZX9rhMahb5Y

[@xxphillips]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Your reply exposes Islam Quran10:94 Presupposes that the people reading the scripture before Muhammad knew the truth. Jews/Christians and they rejected Muhammad. Ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. You can't ask people about the Truth who don't know the truth or are untrust worthy to tell you the Truth. As you said Jews and Christians always believed the same thing so Muhammad corrupted the original message. Quran 5:68 Jews and Christians never believed Islamic Allah was God. Making up a new god later does not make that god the true god no matter how strongly you believe it.

[@adriandecu6846]

God bless you brothers!!! Outstanding session!!!

[@Trabunkle]

If you question Islam, you get punished! If you leave Islam, you get punished! If you tell the truth about Islam, you get punished! If you don't give praise to Muhammad, you get punished! If you draw Muhammad, you get punished! If you don't repeat what the Scholars say, you get punished! If you're an unbeliever, you get punished! If you don't pray 5 times a day, you get punished! If you don't submit, you get punished! That's sounds more like a cult!

[@adriandecu6846]

Best discussion subject for a coffee... ( now, a coffee in a smart people assembly...)

[@UniquelyStyled-u6j]

Thank you my 2 brothers. God is working through you both. Your space in heaven is reserved ❤

[@Timeone123.]

Soon as there is distortion in quaran variants it’s no longer preserved. I got taught this at the Sunni mosque growing up my dad was the imam he did not even realise this him self.

[@randomuser6306]

Is your father still the imam (assuming he's still alive)?

[@hmao4466]

Awesome content as always...

[@edkhalil8898]

Simpleton questions on what the Quran was written in the time of Mohammed or after by Abu Bakr, Omar, Ali or Othman?,did they use animals skins and bones and where they gotta that from in Mecca or Medina? And what tools they used to write with and where they got ink from and how big of piles they have and how long would take and who are the scribers and why would Othman burn most of them because of their high cost, time and labor to do. any Muslim thought of that will definitely reach the conclusion that the Islamic narrative is full of Lies.

[@stevenjohnson-yx1fl]

Without lies islame dies

[@sama8145]

Thank you for all these videos you guys post, it's been a blessing watching and listening. I Had a question and also a suggestion for a possible topic for future video(s). In regards to Muhammad since Dan Gibson mentions Petra as the actual Mecca, would that mean that Muhammad's tomb is actually there in Petra instead of Mecca? Also since either in the hadiths or the Quran it's mentioned that Muhammad's body wouldn't see decay why wouldn't Muslims want to proudly display that. Since it's not true I would be curious to see your opinion on this since I don't see too much about this topic

[@Biblecia]

Well done, gentlemen!

[@123dsj123]

The Science of History: “A document written close to the time of the event should not have to prove itself against a latter document. This is neither logical, or rational, nor true to the principles of the science of history.” Since there are many variations of the Arabic Quran which came down from paradise, it is incumbent (or obligatory) on Muslims to put aside the widely used 1924 Hafs’ Quran, and to determine for us which Quran was written close to the time that Mohammed “supposedly” received Qurans from his personal angel (Jibril).

[@georgeo785]

Which one of the 37 and counting.

[@mohamadromzee7394]

The "1924 Hafs Quran" conforms in recitation to the Quranic folio in Birmingham University which was carbon dated to the time of the prophet peace be upon him.

[@123dsj123]

@@mohamadromzee7394 I want you to hear what you are saying. If I understand your correctly, this is what you are saying: At Birmingham University, there is a Quran that carbon dates to the time of Mohammed - 7th century. This Brimingham University Quran is the exact replica (copy) of the 1924 Hafs Quran that is widely used by Muslims today. Of course, this will make the Hafs Quran the equivalent to the eternally preserved Quran that was revealed to Mohammed. * Please correct me where I went wrong.

[@mohamadromzee7394]

@@123dsj123 Dear Brother, To be more specific, supposed you have memorised the whole Quran according to the supposed 1924 Hafs copy and you try to recite using the available folio in the Birmingham copy, you will find that it will match. Once a lecture was presented on the Birmingham copy, and the first question asked was , which qiraat does it follow. The answer was it conforms to all the qiraat. Goto The Muslim Lantern, EFDAWAH and Blogging Theology for the truth.

[@123dsj123]

@@mohamadromzee7394 I do not know much about the Birmingham folio. My understanding is that it is one sheet that has two pages - from and back. There are only three stories on the Birmingham folio - one of which is the seven sleepers. The other is about Moses, and another - all of which predate Mohammed. If you claim that the 1924 Hafs Quran also has within its page those same three stories, then who is to argue otherwise. * That means we are still back to square one: Since there are many variations of the Arabic Quran which came down from paradise, it is incumbent (or obligatory) on Muslims to put aside the widely used 1924 Hafs’ Quran, and to determine for us which Quran was written close to the time that Mohammed “supposedly” received Qurans from his personal angel (Jibril).

[@ryanparris1021]

Hey Alonzo Harris I own this book…want me to send you a copy. For you to read once you learn?

[@georgeo785]

He can't read he only knows one sentence his mommy taught him

[@MaverickSeventySeven]

Not ever having read the Qur'an - when someone "dictstes" something, whether to be written down or not, surely they would be in the first person SINGULAR? There would be "commands" beginning with "I command you to...." or "I Allah state that you Muhammad will...." Has this ever occurred with the texts of the Qur'an (well, one of the versions! :-)

[@georgeo785]

I never want to. I didn't even read Salamin Rushdie book

[@guzwa2334]

The mole 😂in the 🎉hole 🕳, AL Fadi. Keep on digging bro. 😅 Pietermartizburg KZN South Africa 🌍 🐮 🙏

[@mysteriesmadeknown2874]

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, :12 Teaching us that, denying unGodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and Godly in the present age, :13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

[@natalissatriajuventus7989]

God bless

[@corpuschristi9684]

Copy you , saved the info to share when needed.

[@ewetho]

Does not matter which is real they are all a lie

[@goaway3235]

2:25 "PROPHET HADN'T DONE" it is the biggest proof against islam being true religion and muhammad being true prophet because if he was a trye prophet he would have tried to preserve the message and canonize or standardize the message so that he can be called a successful prophet But as we know he never wanted to spread message of quran or spread islam because he just cared about his fun his pleasure and his luxuries he never cared about what will happen after his death And what kind of those disciples are ali umar and abu bakr who gone against their master's ideology of not preserving quran. Hence,muhammad's death=destruction of islam😂

[@goaway3235]

I got like in just few minutes of writing

[@saraoostrum300]

Thanks! This is helpfull

[@ishtarlew598]

How can Moslems say that they have a Quran identical to the one Allah has.

[@georgeo785]

These guys say allah is the devil

[@ishtarlew598]

@@georgeo785 Well, the Bible did warn that Satan pretends to be an angel of light, and Mohammed did think he was possessed and wanted to jump off a cliff.

[@pinoydataanalyst1705]

i think it's not enough to disprove quran, Muhammad and mecca. it's also need to reconstruct the rashidun period. as long as the rashidun period stand, the whole quran, Muhammad and mecca conflicts wouldn't fall into place.

[@ElizabetaDante]

Vamos Al fadi!! Continue to expose !! Please some chapters on islamic magic and self flagellation

[@venkateshn8780]

Great revelation

[@EeustaceE]

Jibrail 'the choker' reminds me of WWE wrestlers in Summer Slam 😊

[@edetessien1954]

You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Believing in concocted lies is a mark of laziness and ignorance. Find out for yourself if those things are true or not. You will have no excuse when at last you stand before God Almighty and find out that you died in your sins without repentance by following false narratives. The lies are bring exposed for the good of all Muslims.

[@georgeo785]

They only know how to attack and hate. Ishmalites need Jesus Christ. He will set them free

[@mynameis......23]

1:28.

[@mikejohnson5059]

Does anyone have a family tree diagram of all the sources, dates of each suras as they were added into the Quran?

[@addtv1]

Thanks cira

[@rockzalt]

There's another contradiction that strikes me at the moment. Aisha's role in compiling the Quran does not leave the impression that she is a woman who needs a second woman as a witness to confirm the truth. Her words carry weight like she was a queen or some Islamic equivalent. This also begs the question, if Muhammad did not exist then whose wife was she? It's not as if every one of the righteously guided Caliph's backgrounds did not involve a life style surrounding the caravan trade.

[@vicmath1005]

'Umar was never a Caliph, let alone a rightly-guided caliph. These were stories created two hundered years after his time. He signed as 'Amir al-Mumineen' (Commander of the Faithful). The Caliphs were actually the supreme head among the Nazarene priests.

[@rockzalt]

@@vicmath1005 Robert Spencer recently mentioned that there are Muslims who argue that the story about Aisha's age was fabricated and a later insertion. Obviously to make Islam more palatable for the western mindset. Either way if Muhammad didn't exist then Aisha's part within the narrative is affected. It's not only about look at the man, it's also look at the woman.

[@vicmath1005]

@@rockzalt So sar as I can see it, the whole thing was fabricated. The inscriptions on the Temple Mount make it clear that Mu-hammad for the 7th century 'Mus1ims' was Jesus. The qur-an keeps talking about the Nazareens (e.g. in 'Jews and Nazareens'), the sect that was started by the disciples of Jesus. James (Yakov/Yakoub) was the first Caliph (lit. successor) of Jesus. Keep in mind that the great hadith writer Bukhari, from Uzbekistan, according to his own admission, started collecting these hadiths at the age of 16, without any background in either the formal Arabic or any Arabic dialects. The only reason for the fabrications that I can think of was the great desire on the part of the Abbasids to stop "Jews" (read Nazarene clergy) from controlling everything in the Mus1im affairs including 10% zakat (tax) collection.

[@rockzalt]

@@vicmath1005 I agree it's possible. However I tend to believe there are smidgins of truth to some ancient stories. For example I always thought the creation of Rome by two brothers who suckled on a she wolf was complete fantasy until I saw pictures of very poor third world farmers children suckling on female dogs. A drop of truth in a sea of conjecture. So Muhammad could be entirely fabricated but based on some successful unitarian warlord claiming to be appointed by God. That's what rulers claimed back then.

[@tfernandes8786]

Jesus ✝️ Christianity Bible teaches and preaches love ❤peace ✌ tranquility humanity harmony goodness compassion non violence forgiveness 🙏 Jesus is the Savior of the world 🌏. Amen 🙏🙏🙏.

[@georgeo785]

We love Israel and the Jewish people that gave us His Holy Word in the Old and New Testament. Most of all our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. From the lineage of Abraham and King David. Israel is God's chosen people.

[@Reign-3]

@@georgeo785 Jewish people say Christianity is idolatry

[@georgeo785]

@@Reign-3 they always have it's why they crucified their Saviour. He came to save their souls and they rejected Him. Mainly because of the religious hypocrites the Pharricees and the Sadducees. No different today. The antichrist is going to try and trick them when they get the Temple built

[@Believeandknow-or7bs]

@@Reign-3 and their law says they should be doing everything differently than the reality of Judaism. How are they atoning if they left off the practice of sacrificing and sanctifying. They could have gone back to tabernacling, but they don't. They could practice land Sabbath years and jubilee, where debts are wiped out and lost property given back...they don't. And it is true that some sects DO practice idolatry, like orthodox icon worship, deifying Mary, and don't get me started on the other heretical practices that abound. But don't let the Jews bother you, they have enough to worry about with their own practices!

[@truthseeker7951]

Invent Stories Lies and Ahistorical Material . . . #manmadereligion

[@solochristo741]

Now we know why the tame goat eat the Quran. Uthman burned copies of the Quran. Egypt dumped copies of the Quran in the Nile. HOLES IN THE ISLAMIC STANDARD NARRATIVE = YA SIN

[@Fizan93]

This is a misleading title. Okay there are 10 different versions of the Book, but the title says "full of contradictions" and I didn't hear one example of a contradiction from the version that we are all reading universally?

[@able763]

What is taqiyya (Muslim deception) and why does it matter? Ask a Muslim and these are the typical responses: 1. Taqiyya is only for the Shia 2. It's only for defense 3. It's not allowed 4. Christians also do Taqiyya 5. Taqiyya is not lying 6. You can't possibly understand it 7. I've never heard of it 8. There's no such thing 9. It's only when your life is threatened 10. It's only during times of war Islam is a religion of war and its core strategy is deception. The doctrine of deception is called "taqiyya" by the Shia and "muda’rat" by the Sunni. The general term for all Muslims is "hiyal" i.e. "legalistic trickery". Taqiyya comes straight from Quran 2:225: "Allah will not hold you accountable for unintentional oaths, but for what you intended in your hearts. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Forbearing." Also, in Quran 3:28, the word for "precaution" is تقية which is Taqiyya according to the qiraat by Ya'qub al-Yamani. "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution (تقية i.e. Taqiyya) against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination." All Muslims do taqiyya and tap dance. I have never met one who actually answers your questions. They are behaving like Allah. Quran 3:54 says "ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين" "And they deceived and Allah deceived, and Allah is the best the deceivers." Taqiyya has 2 forms: (1) defense against religious persecution or (2) jihadist weapon against unbelievers. Muslims will always insist on the first form when asked about taqiyya and hide the second form from the kuffar. It is the second form of taqiyya which is practised every single day on KZbin. There are 3 main strategies in taqiyya (or muda'rat or hiyal): (1) Muruna - “Flexibility” to blend in with the enemy or surroundings, like drinking beer or being tolerant of gay people, believing that it is permissible to deceitfully behave in an un-Islamic manner if it serves the greater goal of advancing Islam. (2) Tawriya - “Creative lying” or doublespeak where the speaker says something that means one thing while the listener thinks it means something else, during which the speaker’s words technically support the listener’s alternate meaning. (3) Kitman - Telling only part of the truth. For example if a Muslim were to say that jihad refers to an “internal spiritual struggle” when actually only a few passages in the Quran refer to it that way and the vast majority of verses refer to jihad as "forceful" or "external" violent, coercive jihad to spread the religion. The ultimate aim of taqiyya (or muda'rat or hiyal) is to mislead. Muslims don't regard misleading statements as lying. The rest of the world do. So when you speak to a Muslim, expect him to mislead you. Misrepresentation, dissembling, gaslighting, doublespeak, etc. are 100% ok by Muslims and sanctioned by Allah and the "Best Example for Humanity" Muhammad. An example of taqiyya is "Islam is a religion of peace". After intense cross examination, and if you're lucky, the Muslim will admit that what he actually means is "Islam is a religion of peace AFTER the whole world converts to Islam (and the Islam of his sect and his particular teacher)." There is never actual truth from a Muslim, not in the way Christians and other non-Muslims define "truth". Muslims just regard all sorts of intentional misrepresentation as permissable and not lying. Muslims are allowed and obligated to lie to spread Islam. Almost any kind of lie is permissible. Muslims can even tell you lies about Islam, denying embarrassing verses in the Quran or Hadith and even doing taqiyya about taqiyya (“inception” lying). For example, disguising hostility as grievance. “It was in self-defence”, Muslims say, when their religion has killed 700m-1.2b people in its spread over 14 centuries with 80m-400m just in India alone. A recent example of taqiyya which you can view on KZbin is Muslim apologist Mohammed Hijab saying to a group of women: "You can lie to your spouse. The Prophet says you can do it. It doesn’t have to be a white lie. It can be a black lie." (June 2023) The best reference for taqiyya is from someone regarded by most Muslims as the greatest Imam of all - Hamid al-Ghazali. In the treatise on Sharia Law “Reliance of the Traveller”, Hamid al-Ghazali, the most renowned Sunni theologian of the Seljuq period (1038-1194) was quoted as saying “Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie …”. Most non-Muslims are completely bamboozled by this. Especially Christians. Little old Christian ladies would chide other Christians for lying about Christianity even if it was done to "protect" or "spread" the religion. Most non-Muslims just cannot compute that a religion can allow and even oblige its followers to lie to defend and spread the religion. They keep defending Muslims and insist that "all religions teach honesty" and "all religions teach peace". It’s quite comical and sad. Can you imagine having a taqiyya spouting Muslim as a co-worker or boss or family member or politician? Can you imagine an entire nation made up mostly of Muslims like Pakistan or Iran or Saudi Arabia? Can you imagine all that taqiyya dissembling where every sentence by every person is forked-tongue doublespeak obfuscation? Can you imagine having a joint-venture partner who doesn't see misrepresentation as dishonesty? No wonder most of the failed states and worst nations are Muslim countries. Muslims lie and deflect with taqiyya because they KNOW or STRONGLY SUSPECT that Islam is man-made fraud. They just want to sustain their political power much like the Nazis or Communists. This is their favorite SOP: 1. Claim immediately you’re taking things out of context. 2. Use abrogated verses like 2-256 "No compulsion in religion" 3. Insult you or your intelligence e.g. "You know nothing ..." 4. Declare hadiths to be "daif" even when they are SAHIH 5. Change the topic e.g. to their favorite "God can't have a son" 6. Use fake & debunked excuses like the "wajadaha" excuse for Quran 18-86 7. Use whaboutism by bringing up similar things in other religions 8. “It’s a metaphor. It’s a metaphysical thing.” 9. Strawman the opposing argument (e.g. Christians have 3 gods) and then “win” 10. Declaring "allahualem" (Allah knows best) the Islamic “get out of jail” card 11. When caught, say: "There are some things humans are not meant to understand." 12. Or they’ll just start yelling ad hominems like "Islamophobe" "hater" "pig" to change the topic to you. All Muslims do lie, mislead and tap dance. I have never met one who actually answers your questions. They are behaving like Allah. Quran 3:54 says "ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين" "And they deceived and Allah deceived, and Allah is the Best the Deceivers". Islam breeds a culture of constant dissembling, lying, playing dumb, gaslighting, strawmanning, etc. and the result is Muslim countries today, most of which are in shambles. And of course their leaders will come up with the Islamic sour grapes excuse "Duniya is Jannah for the Kuffar" LOL. No wonder Islam is collapsing with 50k out of 75k mosques CLOSED in Iran. Do you want to follow a religion of deceit? Stay away from Islam. Nothing good comes out of Islam.

[@georgeo785]

Conclusion is all ishmalites need Jesus Christ to set them free

[@grahamstaunton9426]

MY FATHER THE LORD GOD DID SAY 2 MOES THAT HE WAS (A Jealous GOD) OR AM I RONG,,PLZ YELL ME IF I AM ITS A LONG TIM GORE TOO READ THE BOOK AT THE MOMENT,,BUT HAVE IT ON MY FON SO WHE I TRAVEL I DO HAVE MY HOLY BOOK WITH ME🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍

[@narannag8851]

Instead of finding fault with wuran please spend time in finding pillars holding the sky. Identify them destroy them so that precious lives r saved from Air crashes. It is easy to blame Air crash as Pilot error.

[@amarjeetsehmi8995]

Then who worries when Mullahs promise Huran in Heaven to younger generation.

[@ahmedibrahimgarba4990]

Oh no,we don't have problems with the Glorious Qur'an. It's still intact without any contradictions. Your problems lies squarely with your Bible.Which prophet was sent with a book called The Holy Bible??

[@godwinkoroma-nd9ky]

The Internet thrives in the works of Mr Google and Mr Wikipedia.The Light has come so let’s stop playing IGNORANCE. It is your Salvation responsibility to fact check anything we read or heard.

[@nunya54]

Why did Jesus send Muhammad?

[@beatforjesusbykellym2104]

How can Jesus send someone if he is just a prophet?

[@nunya54]

Christians say he's God. So why did Jesus send Muhammad to earth?@@beatforjesusbykellym2104

[@inkyfingers3447]

Too many holes. Too many narratives!

[@dyor4125]

Quran, indeed is the truth, no doubt.

[@randomuser6306]

Which version

[@georgeo785]

Funny which of the 37. How about Salmin Rushdie verson

[@Fizan93]

Why don't you bring knowledgeable Muslims on here to prove how correct you are? Echo chambers are not a great way to persuade Muslims away from Islam.

[@ahmedibrahimgarba4990]

The chapters and verses of the Qur'an are still intact in writings and in our memories and recitations of 5 daily prayers. Alhamdulillah, the Glorious has been preserved.

[@mohdnorzaihar2632]

to debunked 1400 years history of tradition within 12 minutes..??

[@stevenjohnson-yx1fl]

Muslims would love to be able to read Aramaic so they could learn about the real God not just the fake god la la and his false prophet moreharmmad

[@zaahedsultan3103]

Trying very hard, but to no avail....its best to stick with your own relegion for which you have beeñ had for, fòr your doçtorates and degrees. What a waste of time and effort..on your parts.

[@The_Last_Rick]

Have you ever read the Bible or is it that you just think is says what you want it to say? If you think that the Bible has been corrupted, then you contradict the Quran. Many, many times and in many ways the Quran confirms the Bible. For example: Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us *and what was revealed to you.* Our God and your God is One. And to Him we submit.” (Quran 29:46) Syntax is very important in this verse. The words used are *“and what was revealed to you”.* It does not say that which was revealed to Jesus or Moses it says: *“and what was revealed to you”.* Now, that which was revealed to “People of the Book” was “The Book” (the words of the Bible). For the “People of the Book” living at the time of your prophet, there was no other revelation beside the Bible; none whatsoever. Jesus had left the earth nearly 600 years before and Moses died more than 1300 years before that. The only thing they had was the Book, the Bible. Unless Allah mean for you to lie, this means that the Scriptures that the “People of the Book” have are true. There is also: Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ *“O People of the Book!* You have nothing to stand on unless you observe the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.” . . . . (Quran 5:68) Plus: Quran 5:47, 3:3-4, 5:43-46, 3:55, 61:14, 5:66, 5:68, 10:94, 35:31, 10:37, 6:92, 34:31 and 5:48 just as an example of the many verses that confirm the *Book* the *“People of the Book”* had was true. Just by the way, there are thousands of Biblical manuscripts that have survived the centuries and still exist today that predate Muhammad's birth. Muhammad was born around 570 AD. That is more than 200 years after the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus were written. Look up *Codex Sinaiticus* and view the document online for yourself.

[@georgeo785]

Ismalites need Jesus Christ to set them free. Your words were the waste of time but no one cares

[@subrat8716]

So long as religion is practiced inside 4 walls and doesn't interfere others life ,it is OK. But islam interfers in others life. There comes the problem

[@georgeo785]

@@subrat8716for them it's convert to islam or die

[@RafikKhan-ol4zk]

Go and debate sheilk uthman face To face talking from behind the Screens won't prove anything Jay smith you know what happen to You at speakers corner

[@alaintj4523]

you guys r Full of Contradictions

[@georgeo785]

Ismalites need Jesus Christ to set them free

[@rkraja6603]

It is immaterial which Quran is correct. The eschatology of ALL Abrahamic religions is the physical resurrection of the body on judgement day. If the resurrection is not the linchpin of these religions without the resurrection, these religions are all nonsense beliefs The dilemma for the Islam and Christianity is to be Jewish, yet not to be Jewish. All religions are mythologies, Islam and Christianity insist that what their books narrate (distorted Judaism) is TRUTH, anybody questioning the Quran/Bible is killed.

[@golojotv114]

Muslim : Who is God? Christian : Jesus Muslim : Is Jesus the son of Mary. Christian : Yes Muslim : Who created Mary? Christian : God. Muslim : Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim : Jesus is the begotten son. Christian : Yes Muslim : Who is his father? Christian : God. Muslim : Who is God? Christian : Jesus. Muslim : Jesus is a servant of God. Christian : Yes Muslim : Jesus died on the cross ? Christian : Yes Muslim : Who resurrected him? Christian : God. Muslim : Is Jesus a messenger. Christian : Yes Muslim : Who sent him? Christian : God. Muslim : Who is God? Christian : Jesus. Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth. Christian: Yes Muslim: Whom did he worship? Christian: God. Muslim : Who is God? Christian : Jesus. Muslim : Did God have a beginning? Christian : No Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC? Christian : Jesus. Muslim : Is Jesus God. Christian : Yes Muslim : Where's God? Christian : In heaven. Muslim : How many Gods are there in heaven? Christian : Only one God. Muslim : Where's Jesus? Christian : He is seated on the right hand of his father. Muslim : Then how many are they in heaven? Christian : Only one God. Muslim : Then how many seats? Christian : one Muslim : where's Jesus? Christian: Seated next to God. Muslim : How are they seated on one chair? Christian : Its only understood by those with the Ghost.You need Ghost my friend... 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' 'My God (Me), My God (Me), why have You(Me) forsaken Me?' ---------THE END----------

[@arturturk5926]

Those are "Islamic traditions", IE culture... THE BIBLE ITSELF is full of contradictions, edits, and omissions.

[@y.israel922]

Great work Fadi 👏👏👏👍 Just plz change this Arabic image Be more civilized That's europ

[@pastimerascals6227]

Christian sources too, and every religion. Coz, everything was man-made 😊

[@georgeo785]

Ismalites need Jesus Christ to set them free

[@aaronharun1394H]

If two people gave two different accounts of the same thing contradicting each other, then at least one of them is wrong or inaccurate. 1. There are christians who claim Jesus is God. 2. There are christians who claim Jesus is son of God and not God. 3. There are christians who claim Jesus is both God and son of God. 4. There are christians who believe Jesus is a man (not God, not son of God) Which is accurate? These are all major contradictions in the religion. Different factions occured since after the time of Jesus. The Quran is a Revelation from God and is the Criterion over the current bible(s). It consists of message for mankind including to Jews, Christians and polytheists. Message for mankind include warning mankind of their errors. Jesus prayed TO the one God. Jesus is NOT the one God. The one God SENT jesus. The one God is not one group of persons where one person sends one other person. The one God created Jesus without a father. Does not mean or imply he is the son of God. Adam was created without both a father and a mother.

[@Avenged7Xs]

there is no christian who believes Jesus was just a man and not god, if you believe Jesus was just a man and not god you'd be a muslim. there are no christians who believe that Jesus was son of god but not god, if you believe this then you don't believe in the triune God, which means you're not a christian. In the Quran it says that Allah is a father to no one? so if Jesus was just a Muslim prophet then why did he call God his father? that's a big contradiction.. I noticed that you didn't address anything about what the vid was claiming, your statements was just a deflection, because you can't handle the truth that jay Smith spits 🤢

[@aaronharun1394H]

@@Avenged7Xs You are not following Jesus if you think he is God or the son of God. Jesus is a muslim. He prayed to the one God. If A prays to B does not mean A is B. The one God is not one family one praying to one other. The one God is the most High and the only one everyone should pray to, not someone who prays to.

[@BandenIndarys]

Christians deny Muhammad and the Quran because according to the hadith Muhammad was posessed by an evil spirit: Al Hadis, Vol. 3, 786, Abul Azher al Anmari reported, When The Apostle of Allah went to bed, he said, "In the name of Allah, I put down my side for Allah. O Allah! forgive my sins and remove my evil spirit..." Attested by Abu Daud Al Hadis, Vol. 3, p. 803, Ayesha reported that the Prophet used to say (in prayer), "O Allah! I seek refuge from Thee from the chastisement of the Fire... the trials of the grave... and the evils of the trials of the one-eyed Dajjal..." Attested by agreement. Muhammad knew not only that he had an evil spirit but knew it to be Dajjal which by Islamic tradition is the spirit of Antichrist. The Apostle John wrote: John 2: 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. When Muhammad denied Jesus was the son of God, God sent Dajjal to Muhammad to toment him the same way that he sent an evil spirit to King Saul after he rebelled. 1 Samuel 16:14 "But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him." The evil spirit was a sign that Saul had become God's enemy in the same way that Muhammad had also become his enemy. 1 Samuel 28: 15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do. 16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the Lord is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?

[@Avenged7Xs]

​@@BandenIndarysI couldn't have said it better, spot on bloke👍

[@Avenged7Xs]

​@@aaronharun1394Hbloke did you see my comment where I quoted that Allah said that he is a father to no one? so if Jesus was just a Muslim prophet then why did he call God his father.. big contradiction bloke,

[@alonzoharris9049]

Jay Smith believes in three gods.

[@MU-we8hz]

​@@The_Last_Rickbecause he knows islam is undefdendable

[@MU-we8hz]

Why does allah need a wife to have a son?

[@normalisoverrated]

Seems there is a LOT allah can't do...

[@MU-we8hz]

@@normalisoverrated do you want to see Aisha busting mohamed? Read this hadith and then the last sentence. Sahih al-Bukhari 4788 Narrated Aisha: I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and I used to say, "Can a lady give herself (to a man)?" But when Allah revealed: "You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside (temporarily).' (33.51) I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@The_Last_Rick There is no issue. Jay Smith has no evidence for his claims. Just asserting things instead of proving each and every assertion. He also relies on a non academic poor book. Schoemaker claims that Malik wrote the Quran.🥴🤣

[@Jn31600]

Abdools claim 1 quran. But in reality, 100 different quran. 100k Hadids, tafsers,translations and all contradicts with each other 🤭🤭

[@georgeo785]

Ishmalites need Jesus Christ to set them free.

[@estring69]

Yamama seems to be just a death match between all the players when you look at the way these people all died.