Cisco Catalyst 1000 Review

[@zero_day_virus]

This week I replaced a Catalyst 2950, been running since 9/2004, 24/7. Went through numerous renovations that took place on the manufaturing floor. I swapped it out because it's 10/100 ports and not sufficient anymore speed wise. But still running. Amazing

[@house9850]

The MTBF on those is 20 years so you retired it early.

[@juandefs]

Damn 2021 is full of surprises.. tom doing one of those rare cisco reviews..

[@SilentServiceCode]

That screw hole and the notch next to it is for the rack ears. You can mount those in racks. The part is RCKMNT-19-CMPCT

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Thank you

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

A Thanks to Willie Howe for helping me out kzbin.info Amazon Affiliate Link for Cisco Catalyst 1000-8P-E-2G-L amzn.to/3ntidF5 Amazon Affiliate Link for Cisco Catalyst 1000-8T-2G-L amzn.to/39bAIZy Networkchuck Video Review Referenced kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4q1Xmxsrd51ibc Cisco Catalyst 1000 Series Switches Data Sheet www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-1000-series-switches/nb-06-cat1k-ser-switch-ds-cte-en.html Single IP Management Configuration Guide, Cisco IOS Release 15.2(7)Ex (Catalyst 1000 Switches)www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst1000/software/releases/15_2_7_e/configuration_guides/stacking/b_1527e_single_ip_management_c1000_cg.html

[@engrpiman]

I have not used the 1000 series but with the 2900,3500, 9000 series switches third party SFP works fine if you buy Cisco compatible models. Our network engineers recommended a $10 SFP+ transceiver. Also I've had good luck with start tech and tricentric

[@tectubedk]

The check for coding on c1000 is different than those other platforms. I have had issues with especially copper transceivers in c1000, even if they work in cat9k, 2960x, 3650, etc. The optics vendor needs to change the coding in many cases to work with c1000. That said, we have not had any transceiver we couldn't make work by working with the manufacture for coding updates.

[@mariembuenaventura1278]

Cisco and no license in a sentence haha

[@MeanE]

I don't even believe it. Cisco is a licensing company that happens to sell hardware.

[@SilentServiceCode]

I believe it's actually LAN Lite perpetual

[@wb1h]

Was about to buy a couple 48 port models for an organiztion that is not Cisco savy. This was really really helpful because novices would have to stumble through these minor road blocks. Thank you Lawrence

[@justinquinn7995]

I've been really enjoying the CBS350 and Catalyst 1000 stuff from Cisco. I think Ubiquity is responsible for shaking things up.

[@lourendo01]

how would you compare the cbs-350 with the c-1000? ive been using the cbs-350 and liking them but tempted to venture into c-1000 but im not sure its worth it.

[@YehudaKatz1]

My Cisco SG300 that I use as the core switch in my house just hit 365 days of uptime, and that is only because I replaced the UPS it was connected to. I hope these new ones are as reliable.

[@GarrettSkjelstad]

Buy an SFP reprogrammer, and change the codes on your SFPs to match Cisco OEM codes. This works great.

[@svettnabb]

I would argue that a hack does not “work great”, because you lose support and is a big hassle.

[@GarrettSkjelstad]

@@svettnabb It's a Catalyst 1000, not an NCS55. I guess "the hassle" depends on what support costs you're willing to shoulder, who you're willing to pay them to and at what point in the lifespan of your equipment. Reprogramming takes 5 minutes; granted purchasing pre-programmed SFPs is faster, but not always an option.

[@svettnabb]

@@GarrettSkjelstad - For the price its not worth the hassle. And in the enterprise it’s not ok to purchase expensive equipment and hack it to work, so why would it be ok for a client?

[@GarrettSkjelstad]

​@@svettnabb - This is an enterprise practice, so I'm not sure what enterprises you're saying that it's not OK for. - www.fs.com/products/96657.html - Part of the functionality is to reprogram SFPs to work with different vendors or for specific wavelengths that your *WDM implementation needs.

[@svettnabb]

@@GarrettSkjelstad - I am unsure if you have worked in enterprise. Let’s say you deploy switches with this hack, with spfs that has been modified to work in switches, with a switch vendor does not support third party spfs, so additionally you have to use an undocumented/unsupported command for it to work. Then later, one or more switches die and you have to get a Cisco technician in to replace equipment because the company is losing money and pay for premium support for these kinds of incidents. It does not matter if hacking the switches to work does the job, the board of directors loves a scapegoat when shit hits the fan. Good luck with that sir, I personally would not risk my career on something like that.

[@risesir]

Catalyst 1000 DOES support non-Cisco transceivers. Must be GLC-TE (for rj45) compatible. The issue mentioned in the video was probably caused by GLC-T transceivers, which are not supported.

[@LegOfAhab]

I used to work for a company with a huge IT budget. We used to have a saying: "Nobody gets fired for buy Cisco or IBM."

[@RobSnyder]

Just wanted to put my two cents in One Tom the review was well thought out. I appreciate that as I do deal with cisco all the time dual CCNP ( Routing/Switch and Unified Communications ). My only concern with this line up is well Cisco's history of trying to step there toe into SMB and then leave the customer hanging as 3 years later the line up never sees any new products. One example is Catalyst Express line of switches, these ran a IOS lite image but you had to manage via webgui. I see that they are doing this again with the Catalyst 1000 a IOS lite ( not full layer 3 switch ) . It is good as it still IOS 15.x aka legacy so for old timers like me i can configure them in my sleep . Anyway that is really my only concern and if any of your clients want them it would be my only hesitation would be that cisco has a history of not sticking with their smb ios based products very long. Note I dont count the rebranded linksys line aka Cisco Small Business switches cisco if it does not run a variant of IOS either legacy or XE/XR then it not a cisco switch.

[@aidanluby]

I think they've been relying on the Cisco SMB series Linksys junk for too long and this is them finally stepping up to the plate with a proper SMB product so I'm happy. We often want the Cisco seal of quality but can't afford the Catalyst 2000/3000 (now 9000) series equipment but I feel like the old SMB 200/300's were basically not even Cisco.

[@foysalisp]

@@aidanluby SMB SF300 best for 24 Port QoS per port basis.

[@aidanluby]

@@foysalisp how so? The SF300s are end of support next year.

[@foysalisp]

@@aidanluby Why need you support? 5 years no problem

[@chrisroberts8739]

This is the 1st place I see that anyone has brought up the fact that these devices are totally incompatible with just about every SFP out there. (So thank you for that, It is dead on)! I just got quite a few of these, they are running 15.2(7)E5, I like the switch, but getting any SFP to work is a bear. Out of about 50 SFP's, I only found one that works. It is a Cisco "GLC-SX-MM", however, I am afraid to order more, They might somehow be different and not work. I also want copper Gig SFP's. all of the ones I have are incompatible. I have never heard of much less used an "SFP reprogrammer", but I don't think I am ready to go to the mat, and have my work to shell out $600 and then find it doesn't work. These commands don't help: service-unsupported transceiver !(Doesn't work on the C1000 ) service internal no errdisable detect cause sfp-config-mismatch no errdisable detect cause gbic-invalid The manual says (Incorrectly) "The Cisco Catalyst 1000 Series Switches support a wide range of optics."

[@Red1Wollip]

This looks like a good replacement for my Meraki extremely high licensing costs.

[@justicephiri3323]

the Meraki portfolio & Catalyst 1000 series address different problems. If the Catalyst 1000 is your option as opposed to Meraki then you shouldn't even be considering Meraki to begin with

[@DustinSCline]

As someone whom used to be CCNA and CCNA-S certified, this much effort and nuisance needed to setup a Cisco isn’t worth it. They would probably survive a nuclear apocalypse but I can set up Unifi switches in a fraction of the time it takes to do Cisco.

[@wiziek]

That's why Cisco is used within big companies and ISPs and ubiquiti is used mostly due to price. I'm not saying Cisco is always proper choice but there are reasons.

[@SilentServiceCode]

What nuisance are you talking about? It's bone stock IOS

[@LeonLionHeart]

That's why your Unifi gets "free" monitoring from China!

[@the_DOS]

As an net admin of Cisco Nexus switches... you wouldn't believe the number of outages related to bugs in the Nexus platform.

[@TotlKaos]

I agree... we have 6 of the 9000's and non stop issues with them.

[@lordcarnorjax8599]

We spent ages with TAC trying to fix a OSPF bug on our 9K's using VPC and SVI's. In the end we moved the OSPF routing to a Catalyst and it just worked. There's some really nice things about NX-OS but the bugs kill you when you hit one. Meanwhile our 6500's & 4500's using VSS just chug along doing all we require without skipping a beat. It's not just the Nexus platform thats got bugs but the 3850's were absolutely shocking too. The new 9K Catalyst are great but I'm not a fan of VSL on them, I'd rather have proper stacking.

[@robertcowling2057]

I saw there was a command in the GUI for spanning in the One section. If that’s the case, that’s pretty handy to drop Your WireShark on an port and mirror another port or VLAN(s) To that port. That’s pretty impressive if that’s the case on this Price point .

[@natedavis2559]

This wouldn't be the first time Network Chuck has said something that isn't true.

[@house9850]

Chuck means well. We are all just trying to make it in life, no one is perfect.

[@strikesbac]

Great video. Are you going to review any of the t p link Omada stuff?

[@goldenarm2118]

Is it possible to provide a link to the Cisco sfp transceivers? It's hard for me to find the correct hardware. It seems the transceivers cost more than the switch itself.

[@DanielRenfro]

The CISCO SFP GLC-Te is available through Amazon sellers cheap.

[@RedneckTechcontrolle]

Wait Wait are pigs flying, Tom is using and reviewing Cisco...... WOW!

[@AndrewBucklin]

I was about to skip the video, because as a Sys Admin, I’ve always stayed away from “complicated” Cisco gear, but I figured if Tom was reviewing them then maybe I’d better have an open mind - - and frankly, now I’m sold!

[@RedneckTechcontrolle]

@@AndrewBucklin I've been in the game 23 years, Cisco can be a witch for sure.

[@colonelkoik]

Hmm, I'm using Ericsson SFP+ modules for C1000-48P-4X-L. All I had to do to get them to work was enter a command: "no err-disable detect cause gbic-invalid"

[@chrisroberts8739]

It did not work for me for my "finisar's, avago, juniper, dell, and even most Cisco sfp's that I have tried. (It keeps the interface from becoming disabled, but still the SFP remains unrecognized and down).

[@jeffellington13]

Big fan, love your videos. I was just looking at this switch yesterday for home use to replace the Cisco switch that I already have but I want to add POE functionality for my 2x Unifi access points. Would you pick this Cisco switch over a Unifi 8-port 150 watt POE Switch?

[@jeffellington13]

Tom?

[@MactelecomNetworks]

Great review Tom!

[@DMStern]

Since it's Cisco gear, how many hardcoded backdoors are included?

[@RedShift5]

A known unknown

[@jcnash02]

All of them! Lol

[@Shadepariah]

I have two Cisco Catalyst 3750Gs from Ebay. Manufactured in 2009.

[@garyadams7913]

Just how long will the version of IOS be supported. What about bugs and vulnerabilities, Cisci has not had an exemplary track record of the last few years.

[@kittysreview9055]

My thoughts exactly. I’ll pass on these

[@FirmBreastedAlien]

Solid, thanks for the breakdown bro.

[@mspencerl87]

Cisco is rock solid. But when your not in the CLI everyday.. You end up spending more time googling the commands to do something point and click in other systems.. For me anyway. To expensive for what you get compared to other switches..

[@matthewbennett2844]

Nice to see a cisco video.

[@kristianfaller290]

I wonder how the matchup between Ubiquiti and these would fare in terms of reliability and features? Seems like they aren't far off in terms of pricing as far as I can see.

[@wannabsexy]

you know its 2021 when you have to be thankful for no licensing fees on a switch

[@Heartl3ss21]

Hey Tom, I noticed you are not a great fan of cisco. What brands of switches for small businesses would you recommend for easy deployment and stability? New follower here on the channel and great job on the content so far.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Unifi makes great switches but not so great routing equipment

[@Heartl3ss21]

@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Strange, I had the exact opposite experience. I tried installing Unifi switches on a small hotel and I had tons of issues with IPTV where the image would be very pixelated if more than 5 TVs were running at the same time. It seemed to me the IGMP was the problem and that the switches didn't have powerful enough hardware to run as expected or maybe the core switch was not powerful enough.

[@AndrewBucklin]

Did anyone find it odd that the ping times to the switch at 10:29 were so high? I’d expect to see

[@ejunyhu]

One possible reason is, the ping has to go through a different l2/icmp stack though a tap/tun interface to a dedicated thread, while ping another device rather than the switch will be processed by data planes slow/fast path, you see

[@VioletDragonsProjects]

my SG500 switches automatically stacks and in Active Failover.

[@the_bogeyman.]

Thinking to get 2-3 of these for a future "kinda" home lab. Poe or not Poe version, is my dilemma. When to chose one over the other, or is it just better to invest on Poe for all of them "just in case"? The price difference is 50€ each, in my area.

[@satriaa.nugraha5617]

Thinking the same, all of these networking stuff which I don't familiar with require long term planning and I still can't decide between Cisco/Aruba/Ubiquiti.. I could just go to IT consultant but it it always fun to learn something new

[@Djlokiny]

is there a place to learn everything about CLI? i want to start doing more cisco and would love to learn everything via console first

[@PeteAUS1983]

Cisco Packet Tracer will allow to set up a network in a virtual lab www.netacad.com/courses/packet-tracer

[@BDBD16]

@@PeteAUS1983 That gets him a great start but he needs further resources. Udemy, Cisco Press, netacad, people like Laz here on youtube etc.... Giving someone a wrench doesn't make them a mechanic.

[@BDBD16]

Also, check Ebay, if you have a local IT recycler, maybe local MSPs, try to get stuff people throw away. A Cisco switch from 2000 is still as usable in training and production today.

[@PeteAUS1983]

@@BDBD16 surely he or she is smart enough to work that part out of their own. Considering the Cisco academy points you towards further study.

[@wiziek]

Just search cisco support, there is a lot of stuff to read up for free.

[@edwrdtvso]

Did Catalyst 1000 support cross-stack LAGs ?

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Not really sure and I don't have them to test any more

[@antoinevernier406]

thank you so much, this video saved me !

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Glad it helped!

[@mdd1963]

Good ole' Count Seoul cables!

[@Ransompco]

So I started configuring on the cli... is the button completely dead now? How do I get the button back? I tried factory resetting the device and didn't do anything in regards to the button.

[@RyouConcord]

does it let you configure via cli? that's... the only way I know how to set cisco equipment up lmao. we're not super big on having a web gui running on our devices

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Yes, you can do all the config from the CLI

[@tectubedk]

Having worked with the 24 port version, I can say it's a joy. I have found some QoS (if i remember right) features that didn't work on c1000, but for the most part it feels just like a 2960x or any other recent classic IOS switch

[@engrpiman]

The warranty is also great. We have some small business switches and they got fried by lightning twice and both times they send me a replacement next day. Ubnt took a few days to tell me my switch was out of warranty. In prod will take a next day replacement any day

[@Exploited89]

So this is a line of products in between the crappy small business stuff and catalyst 2X and above? Interesting!

[@wiziek]

Catalyst 2k? I think this is announced as EoL maybe even end of sale, new switches are Catalyst 9k.

[@Exploited89]

@@wiziek Yes the line is almost completely gone, but the XR model are still on sale up to late 2021 AFAIK, we just bought a bunch of them for a customer (going for the new series was 2 months worth of waiting...)

[@foysalisp]

This Switch not support L3 QoS Bandwidth for all IP. 7 Mbps x 250 IP = 1750 Mbps for 1 Subnet. Only 24 Port L2 QoS per port basis. Mikrotik 1Gbps price US$150. L3 relay 250 IP equal 7 Mbps.

[@janisvaskevics93]

Any china sfp can be programmed to "be a Cisco" - this is a same crap as with printer cartridge chips. I choose Mikrotik for not doing this, but I often install SFP modules and i make sure to have them preprogrammed to emulate Cisco. I never buy Cisco SFP modules though and never will.

[@andrewseamaster]

the GUI temp 'thermometer' is horrific.

[@robertcowling2057]

You mentioned you just have to register with Cisco online, You don’t have to get some SOHO version of Cisco Smartnet? Getting updates for my Cisco C3850’s weren’t too bad, but As they become EOL, it tends to get pricey. I wonder if Cisco is learning and trying to work with customers. Cisco licensing has always been a nightmare. Palo Alto has an interesting recertification process if you happen To purchase a firewall from EBay or other 3rd party sources. It includes 2 deposits, one of which is non-refundable.

[@TheSandornagy]

Which Cisco RJ45 FSP modules does work for stacking C1000 switches?

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

They only work with the genuine Cisco modules

[@TheSandornagy]

@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Yes, I am just wondering which certain modules of Cisco are compatible with C1000 switches or all genui Cisco product are good..

[@joeydebra763]

The background checks are in fact because their clients are usually bigger enterprises and they need to make sure you are a part of that company by checking the supplied information, maybe make a call. You actually need a public domain to be able to register. The whole account thing is not only used for support stuff but also these days for their smart licensing on the bigger boxes/software subscriptions. And yes actual catalyst switches are way more stable and performant than some other vendors out there. I've seen way too many fault leds on HPE switches in the few years I'm in IT.

[@steveanderson1779]

You need Cisco to run your KZbin channel

[@gastonhitw720]

I want one of this for home use, I've found some cheap used or refurbished models, but my question is, will I need to buy a license from cisco? what would happend if I have an ios image? if I install it using tftp, will it work?

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

The 1,000 series do not have a licence

[@gastonhitw720]

@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS thank you sir, and in terms of cli configuration, is it missing some layer 2 command lines? how would you compare it for example with a 2960S?

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

Not sure, not a Cisco expert.

[@FoX84tac022]

Can anyone make the argument for one of these over just getting something like a 3750G off ebay?

[@jyk011609]

Yes. It depends on whether you're using them for a live production network or for home/lab use. You don't want to use the 3750Gs in a real production environment because they are End of Life/End of Support since 2018. If u run into issues with the 3750Gs, then you would have no other option but to buy more and have the faulty Switches replaced. But you do get Cisco Support with the C1000s. The other thing to consider regardless of home or production use is vulnerabilities. Since the 3750Gs are EOL/EOS, the outdated software is vulnerable to attacks. But the C1000s will continue receiving updated patches, bug fixes, features and enhancements

[@FoX84tac022]

@@jyk011609 Fair, but a few caveats - EoL doesn't necessarily mean any 'more vulnerable' as it's not unheard of for even cisco to have outstanding zero-days for extended periods of time (unless there are vulnerabilities with the 3750 you know about that I don't). And secondly, the price of said 3750G's would allow you purchase orders of magnitude more devices. I agree with not running them in production envs, but I can't see a reason not to in a home/lab env. In the end though, today I'd look more towards a 3750X or 3850.

[@izoka1828]

is DNA license mandatory ?

[@Mr.Leeroy]

Never vote for this with my wallet, got it.

[@foysalisp]

Cisco this switch Made in CHINA? Yes! SMB SF300 best for 24Port QoS per port basis.

[@PosiP]

the trouble with Cisco is that they will discontinue the switchs just as you start selling them to your customers.

[@tectubedk]

What models are you talking about? most cisco switches are for sale for at least 5 years, and is supported for 3-5 years after end of sale

[@PosiP]

@@tectubedk the low-end stuff like this has a very short shelf life on Cisco. Google the ISA570 and you see how Cisco deals with SOHO stuff. By the time they work the bugs out the part numbers are no longer available. Wait, others will comment. www.cisco.com/c/en/us/obsolete/security/cisco-isa570-integrated-security-appliance.html

[@jcnash02]

We’ve been selling sg series switches for years. Same part numbers.

[@PosiP]

@@jcnash02 BELKIN

[@cristianrojas8150]

Hola alguien sabe como resetear switch cisco c1000, se me olvido contraseña

[@bw_merlin]

Interesting that it forces you to use VLAN 1 for management in the wizard. It is possible to not use VLAN 1 on these switches?

[@RussellWarshay]

I’m using one, with everything through other VLANs.

[@GuillermoFrontera]

Next Video, teardown / sneak peek. Just saying...

[@Jamesaepp]

I think I'd unironically rather buy an FS.com switch. This is a bizarre piece of kit.

[@Clobercow1]

Eh. Just avoid the Cisco garbage.

[@sirusvirtus5885]

Small business from linksys😂

[@Piglet6256]

Cisco switches and equipment quirky??? Overcomplicated??? What did you smoke before making this video???? its expensive but that's all things negative you can say about cisco. But quirky and overcomplicated not at all haha. Sorry but its just nonsense, PFsense quirky and overcomplicated, yes your right.

[@tectubedk]

I agree with you that cisco is wonderful to work with and not complicated compared to what it could have been. But if your standard for simple is unifi, then cisco is complicated.

[@notathome13]

Hey stop ordering from Amazon and help stop wage slavery, sure you would have an account with a wholesaler or non Amazon supplier.

[@Piglet6256]

dear Tom, its a lack of knowledge from your part here clearly, you should not do these reviews if you have no knowledge about cisco networking equipment or networking in general. so after 2 min in I already know I can stop watching. Just stick to the free crap and other stuff. Cos this is useless and a waste of time.

[@LAWRENCESYSTEMS]

I put those words in the beginning so you don't have to watch the rest of the video. Your welcome. 😀

[@AndrewBucklin]

dear Piglet, I enjoyed the video. I’m actually considering using Cisco switches now in some small offices where I would normally use something else like Netgear. (Now that I don’t need to hire someone with Cisco knowledge to configure, maintain, and troubleshoot them!) I appreciate Tom taking the time and effort to make the video. 💯 Cheer up pal! Stop hanging out with Eeyore so much!