"Citation In Sight. Holy Cow!"

Close call while flying jumpers in the Grand Caravan.
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[@Lukeduke7773]

….and that, boys and girls, is why we keep a conservative horizontal clearance from clouds when flying VFR.

[@craig7350]

"aircraft in the windscreen are much closer than they appear"

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Almost as close as all the bigs and mud on the windscreen.

[@raptorsean1464]

​@@KerryDMcCauleyThank god the planes didn't become bugs splats on each other's windows. My goodness that was close. Way too close

[@mitseraffej5812]

The general rule is if the relative bearing of other traffic is changing then you won’t hit it.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

@@mitseraffej5812 That's true.

[@jhaedtler]

A friend of mine used to skydive and one day they weren't able to bail out 2 of the sky divers were panicking. Rick asked what was wrong. They said they had never landed in a plane! Then they all started to laugh!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Nothing terrifies skydivers more than landing in the plane! I find it kind of insulting. :)

[@sirtango1]

@@KerryDMcCauleyI climbed back into the same plane I jumped outof once. I didn’t want to repack my chute! 😂 I had an hour or two in Lears. I loved both flying and jumping.

[@seanmorris]

Scottish comedian/actor Billy Connelly was in the British Army Parachute Regiment (TA/reserves) back in the 60's/70's? and had a similar experience. He said the first time he was in a plane, like the rest of the hard men from Glasgow in his intake, he jumped from it. None had any problems jumping but on their sixth flight the pilot cancelled the jump and returned to land. Billy said all the tough guys were bricking it and holding onto each other at the thought of having to be in a plane when it landed!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

@@seanmorris Watching skydivers if they have to land with the plane is hilarious!

[@craigpennington1251]

That Citation was too close for me. Great video and excellent color. Thanks for posting. My jumping days were over 53 years ago. You'd have to shovel me up when landing if I'd do it now.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mikeolson7588]

Now we know what VFR cloud clearances are for.

[@alanb.4660]

yes, and they are not be followed

[@MichaelNelsonYT]

Love the condensation from the props, always pretty

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Doesn't happen that often.

[@TEGOLSON]

Del 6 5:15

[@markrutlidge5427]

It's chemtrails i tell you. 😂😂

[@tangotango256]

@@markrutlidge5427 LOL

[@nickhorsley652]

How rude. They could have at least closed the door behind them!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

They were born in a barn.

[@Vladimirthetiny]

What is wrong with these passengers? The aircraft will land in a few minutes 😂😂😂😂

[@jimg5669]

When the cabin service is just THAT bad! 😛

[@craigpennington1251]

Love to see that trick pulled off.

[@LorenScott69]

3:28 "Citation in sight. Holy cow!"

[@anxietyduck9868]

What a king for making a time stamp 👑

[@Vondoodle]

Thanks

[@richardgreen7811]

In 1975 I was on short final (Cessna 150) to runway 8 at El Paso International when ATC screwed up and cleared a DC9 for takeoff on runway 22. He crossed super close and at my altitude during his climb-out. Knowing what was coming next I was able to warn my wife for the certain incoming vortex from his wing tip. When the vortex hit I couldn't physically hold the yoke so I just followed the pressure and did the only complete aileron roll I have ever done. They never called me, and I never called them. Clean underwear required all around.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Wow! Well done!

[@MikeM275]

You should have made the phone call. That controller needed some remedial of not suspended or possibly fired. Next time his incompetence could cost a lot of lives.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Cessna 150 aileron roll, wowsie. you kept the plane in one piece and didn't even end up upside down in a cornfield with flaps 40, Bravo!!

[@robertworley9620]

I can definitely understand. In 1974 when I was a student pilot, I was solo transiting from our practice area back to NAS Atsugi, Japan. This route took us under the approach to Yokota AB.. All I could ever figure was that I got into the vortex from a C-5A that had passed a few minutes before. I quickly realized that full aileron wasn't stopping the roll so I just rolled with it. Flew back to base and never told anyone about it.

[@richardgreen7811]

@@robertworley9620 Silence is golden ... Life is platinum.

[@Jerry_SWMO]

Got my PPL in 1977. I'm convinced I missed my calling in life. I love these videos.

[@limulus61]

Back in 1990, I was a student pilot flying out of Fulton County Airport (aka Charlie Brown Field) in Atlanta. It had a tower but radar was out of Dobbins Air Force Base. On two separate occasions, I had F15's cross my path. They were a little higher but still quite visible and damn impressive. I was told they were coming but it still happens quickly.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Things happen fast at jet speed!

[@KB-xd5wq]

I worked the East terminal sectors at ZMP. It was always hard to tell your direction by your circling. Your location was right on the arrival for MSP. It was always great to hear "jumpers away" I'd assume the Citation had you on the fish finder.

[@MikeM275]

Not long after getting my privates I was flying down the coast from Sav. to St Simons...VFR of course. ATC calls me and says something to the effect of..."just letting you know you have a squadron of 5 A-10's at your altitude on your reverse heading. I acknowledge. Then after thinking it over for about 5 seconds I said...November (____) I think I'll drop down 500ft to 3000....ATC with laughter in his voice..."I think that's a good idea" .... LOL. So seconds later there they are, 5 A-10's about 1/2 mile off my wingtip 500 ft higher heading north. Beautiful sight!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Too close for missiles...

[@MikeM275]

@@KerryDMcCauley Brrrt

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

Getting "your PRIVATES" ?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

@@MikeM275 Lol!

[@oopsigoofed]

We did the Kevin Burkhart fundraiser. 100 perfect jumps. I announced the whole thing and you Piloted the whole thing! Looking good buddy!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

That was a lot of fun!

[@IncogNito-gg6uh]

Clear skies? Ha, ha! I imagine most of your viewers knew what you meant. Beautiful!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

😁

[@craigsanders6925]

Went up to photograph jumpers going out for a newspaper story on canopy formation jumpers at the infamous Lodi Jump Center one time. After they all jumped I sat down in the right seat and buckled in, pilot nosed it straight down for a few thousand feet, ala "Point Break". I think he wanted to give me a bit of a scare but he looked over and saw me grinning from ear to ear. :)

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Not giving you a scare, just normal ops. Of course we want to show off too!

[@lawrencemartin1113]

What a great vid. You do have a nice job! The view from your office is pretty spectacular. I was a passenger in the right hand seat of a Cessna 172 over London once, back in the early 1990's with Special VFR clearance which then rapidly went to full IMC. At one point over the Thames, London informed us that we also had a Citation, directly ahead and in our opposite direction. We saw nothing and I remember as a young man with very limited experience flying in those conditions, being very tense. There was zero viz as we were totally in cloud and they kept giving the closing range and asking if we had traffic in sight!! All we had was grey wet perspex!! Eventually the call came to say traffic was clear behind us. We never saw it and I am of course certain the distances were all legal, but for me back then, it was a good education!! Fortunately my pilot was very experienced with a commercial licence. We were heading out to have a maintenance check done the other side of London. By the time we were on the return journey, the weather had cleared and the views across London in a single engine aircraft were spectacular! I've never forgotten it. Safe flying!! 😊👍🏻

[@KerryDMcCauley]

It's nice having the gang at ATC keeping an eye out for us.

[@TumbleTrashOfficial]

I find it crazy how there is so much sky, yet aircraft can get so close (and sometimes too "close" at times).

[@KerryDMcCauley]

A big sky get small in a hurry.

[@TakingOff]

Ive GOT to come out and visit you! What a beautiful grass strip!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Got to make it happen!

[@cparis76]

I once was IFR (visibility was VFR), and was given an incoming aircraft, 12 o clock 80 miles. Traffic is head on. They called out 60 miles. 40 miles. 20 miles. 10 miles. It "slowed" to mach 0.99. Left my left wing after being told they had me in visual sight (legally they had to maintain 3 miles). Same controller asked my distance from Vegas which I had GPS. I gave him miles, he gave me inches. You think this pass was fast? You have no idea.

[@ikay2102]

Good idea to keep ATC Comms on video. Thanks for sharing.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Thought you all might find it interesting.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

​@@KerryDMcCauley it's always good to hear quality, professional, RT exchanges so thank you again!

[@Δυσνομία]

This is why I never take skydivers, the last j-a55 always forgets to close the door behind him...

[@KerryDMcCauley]

They can be soooo rude!

[@BruceBusby]

That was fun, thanks for the ride

[@charlesspringer4709]

Very nice! I have two buddies who flew Twin Beech, then Twin Otter, then Caravan. Thousands and thousands of loads 😁

[@SupernovaSpence]

Clear skies with clouds makes sense if you live in Utah. You can have a cloud free sky here and still not be able to see 3 miles. Sooo much smoke :(

[@michaeld5888]

I always remember how there was one collision or near miss that hit the news and after that all the airliners coming over us were suddenly all flying with landing lights still on at 10,000 ft!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Just like in the military, one person craps their pants and we alll have to wear diapers.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

I wouldn't even consider flying commercially if I wasn't current IFR.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

A lot of jump pilots don't have an IFR ticket. I don't approve.

[@wilsonpickett3881]

That citation was prob out of Eau Claire. I stay away from Baldwin. I don't want to clean up the mess on my cowling.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Yes, most likely out of Eau Claire. Weird that he was VFR.

[@kevinolesik1500]

1:32 there could easily be a camera in the front of the plane that could show whats ahead ...

[@frankish5314]

Haha, the number of skydives I've done in IMC!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

WHAT? That's totally Illegal and irresponsible. I would NEVER do such a thing.... Last week. :)

[@frankish5314]

@@KerryDMcCauley Haha right? In the UK we called them "radio spots". You would fly a vector from one VOR and tune the second nav radio into a different VOR. When both needles were zero'd you chuck everybody out. This was before the days of GPS of course.

[@mrsaskriders]

Love your content! Looked pretty close 😮

[@sirtango1]

That’s getting close to TCAS alerts!😂

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Happened so fast ai didn't see anything on ADSB.

[@tangotango256]

A mile at a 140 kas is about 22 seconds !!!! Man that Citation was getting big fast !!!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

That's why I made a quick turn to the right. Should've turned left though.

[@markrutlidge5427]

OMG they're putting chemictrails in propellers now! 😂😂😂😂❤

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Mind control chemtrails.

[@markrutlidge5427]

@@KerryDMcCauley isn't that how you become addicted to flying? 😄😄

[@KerryDMcCauley]

@@markrutlidge5427 Pretty much.

[@philipr.6090]

😄🤪

[@paratyshow]

👍✅ That was a little too close 👏

[@KerryDMcCauley]

A miss is as good as a mile! :)

[@paratyshow]

@@KerryDMcCauley 👍✅🤣 Horseshoe & Handgrenade rule doesn't apply 🤣🤣🤣

[@raptorsean1464]

Holy crap , that was way way too close 😮😮😮😮

[@MADmosche]

Why do skydiving pilots also wear a parachute? In case one of the people jumping hits the tail and the plane loses control?

[@dabneyoffermein595]

It's a turboprop, it's the pilot's discretion

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Correct.

[@andgate2000]

Ive had first hand experience with jump pilots....theyre nuts.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Guilty as charged.

[@fourfortyroadrunner6701]

We had a terrible crash in Coeur d Alene. Two float planes, 8 people dead. Look it up Cessna and a Beaver. and evidently neither pilot saw the other.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

That was tragic.

[@mikehopkins8350]

Are the jumpers responsible for VFR cloud clearance or the PIC of the jump plane or both?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Both.

[@QuantumStellar]

That crystal clear windshield helps a lot, is it a smashed bug or a Citation?🤔

[@KerryDMcCauley]

It did have a smudge or two on it.

[@curtisganter4898]

Flew jumpers in a c-182, always interesting, especially during the EAA.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

We're just off I-94, Back before GPS everyone used it to find Oshkosh.

[@thatguyinelnorte]

What was the paper blowing around the passenger section? Did someone lose an ID?

[@thatguyinelnorte]

BTW, Your mileage may vary; but my parachute instructor in USAF told us, "Only two things drop out of the sky: bird [droppings] and fools." It is fun, though...

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Probably

[@brianstaude2783]

On the way up, we always took note of the altitude {agl} at the bottom of the clouds.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Me too.

[@dirkmoolman]

I need to jump again. Respect to all pilots who fly for us !!

[@machsaga5141]

Any concerns from wake turbulence from the Citation at that point?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Not really.

[@r0cketplumber]

I knew the jumpers who were killed in the Sky's West midair in 1981, 15 people died that day. Keep safe out there.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Never heard of that one, I'll have to look it up.

[@brettlac]

If this was yesterday near Eau Claire then i got a traffic warning about you. Ha. Cheers!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

The Citation traffic was 2 weeks ago I think. But We were flying yesterday out of Baldwin. About 35 west of Eau Claire.

[@brettlac]

Right on. Yup i was on my way from Lake Elmo to shoot the Vor 27 into Menomonie and ATC told me there was traffic at 4300 and climbing with skydivers. I watch these vids all the time and didn’t even know you were near me. Small world! Ha

[@gnashermedia]

Nice video. Thanks. But why do you go into a dive after dropping the skydivers? Is there a reason or just because it's fun. ;)

[@TumbleTrashOfficial]

To land.

[@kdr955]

Was that pass by the Citation in Class C airspace?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

No.

[@GLuft3]

That’s quite the bus load you got there

[@BlurnGanston]

And a distracted pilot 👎

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Full of children.

[@armaanroshani]

I feel like I’m missing something here… where in the video should I be looking for the traffic?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

It's at the 3:18 mark

[@flyer5769]

I flew the grand Caravan out of Bethel Alaska back in 2001. Emergency descent, smoke in the cockpit was, 10° of flaps power back to idle, beta okay but no reverse, while pushing the nose to redline. But I don't remember what the feet/min was. Was wondering what you are doing for your descent.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Wow! Glad you made it! Our Caravan comes down at 6000 feet per minute at 125 knots. But it has a Garret engine so we can disk the prop on descent. Makes a BIG difference.

[@flyer5769]

​@@KerryDMcCauley I had to do that for a training flight. Not an emergency. I thought I misheard you when you said you had wait time for your Garrett. What's the advantage of the Garrett over the Pratt & Whitney?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

@@flyer5769 The Garrett on the Supervan is 900 hp vs. 650 on the Prett (I think) MUCH faster in the climb!

[@flyer5769]

@@KerryDMcCauley 675 on the Pratt

[@KerryDMcCauley]

@@flyer5769 I stand corrected. I always knew that if they put a bigger engine on the Caravan it would make an amazing jump ship!

[@whosrobertseed]

If there was any way to best personify the idea of "If you love what you do you'll never work a day in your life." I feel like you'd have a hard time finding a better example than this.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Totally agree, I'm very lucky!

[@sirtango1]

Skydivers are a Buncha kids huh? You were expecting them to close the door behind them? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@KerryDMcCauley]

I'm just an overgrown babysitter!

[@edwardmyers8782]

Clear sky's filled with towering cumulus clouds???? Some would call that partly cloudy with embedded thunder storms

[@KerryDMcCauley]

We get towering cumulus clouds that aren't thunderstorms all summer.

[@hadleymanmusic]

1:00 you can get you a monitor and a belly camera just like the Arup S4 had

[@porkorosso7885]

Great video! Thanks.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Glad you liked it!

[@BenjaminGatti]

Looks like some deconfliction was indicated

[@AnthonyTRiggio]

Cool halo rainbow around your shadow at 12:35.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

I love pointing that out to tandem students in freefall.

[@robertc5292]

That was a touch uncomfortable. See it at 3:32 just above the nose going left to right like a jet

[@dhouse-d5l]

Dont get it. That was criminally close, so who's at fault?

[@realulli]

Well, I don't know about the citation but steveo1kinevo recently released a video where he got a demo flight of a Pilatus PC-24. They were tooling around the Swiss Alps below FL120, crossing some ridges at less than 500 feet (at least that's what it looked like). Great views! No clouds, but lots of snowy cumulo rocks... ;-)

[@KerryDMcCauley]

I saw that, great video!

[@thatairplaneguy]

That’s was way too close. Whose fault was that?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Hard to say but I'm wondering why a Citation was flying VRF at that low altitude.

[@ticktock2121]

Cool video. Thought Tony Hawk was piloting!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Not the Hawk. I can't skateboard.

[@leighsmith3099]

Why does the gear stay down?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Fixed gear, can't retract.

[@adam-hd7kg]

Just curious. Why do you have to descend and land so fast?

[@johnbrowning9753]

Time is $$$!

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Got that right!

[@adam-hd7kg]

@@johnbrowning9753 makes sense.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

The faster I land the more skydivers we can get up in a day. Not to mention fuel and time on the engine.

[@adam-hd7kg]

@@KerryDMcCauley Makes sense! Thanks for the reply

[@JoelLessing]

How did ATC allow this to even develop?

[@JoelLessing]

Can a controller earn a deviation? Here is a number for you to call, lol….

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Right?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

he Citation was VFR and I had just taken off and not checked in yet. Eben so, he still gave me a heads up.

[@ryandurr2811]

It's not as bad in a -114 caravan. The supervans have a high pitch angle.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Late afternoon, into the sun, can't see crap.

[@ryandurr2811]

@@KerryDMcCauley yeah at that point they're all the same.

[@abp5428]

Should we be concerned when the pilot also has a parachute?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

No, it's in case there's a problem with the plane. "Everyone stay put! I'll go get help!"

[@abp5428]

@@KerryDMcCauley great idea for airlines 👍

[@NsixVHF]

I guess that thing doesn't have TCAS? That was a bit too close for comfort.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

I does have ADSB in but with a Citation under 1 mile I didn't have time to put my head down in the cockpit and start looking.

[@claywynn4507]

Get a wing camera and a receiver mounted on the dash. That was too close with the Citation.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

I often have a wing cam mounted.

[@jsl151850b]

*What? No ATAS?*

[@cmpe43]

Why jump out of a perfectly good plane?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Because it's SUPER FUN!

[@claycassin8437]

No kidding!

[@dalemullins4562]

There's no such thing as a perfectly good airplane I guarantee you there's at least one thing wrong with that one

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Because it's always good to test out the quality of the underwriters on your insurance policy.

[@davidmotter5140]

Why not ?

[@gadixH]

very rude leaving the door open on their way out :)

[@KerryDMcCauley]

They were born in a barn!

[@HoundDogMech]

The what god is ADS-B Every AC requiring ADS-B OUT should be Required to have ADS-B IN. With out ADS-B IN it's basicaly USELESS for Colision Advoidence. Still it a GREATE CRASH Anylizer.

[@kewkabe]

13:23 is the Space Shuttle approach

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Exactly.

[@44hawk28]

Clear skies filled with the big white fluffy things.nuclear. Do you mean clouds? Oh, are you a pilot too?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

?

[@JohnChvatalGSTV]

ATC won't know about aircraft not equipped with transponders.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

They can see them above 1000 feet here, but that's why I look out for traffic especially hard on taekoff.

[@glennwatson]

Primary vs Secondary Radar. They'd likely have them on primary radar.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

@@glennwatson ATC can pick up the skydivers in freefall and under canopy here.

[@xheralt]

@@KerryDMcCauley Skydivers are moving a little slower 😁

[@jimbower9268]

Cool video.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Thanks!

[@richardchandleriii5003]

Clearing turns ?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Nope.

[@edcoffeebean]

3:30 Holy Cow!

[@TrueGuaranteedIrish]

So close you could see the whites of the other guy’s eyes.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

He went thataway!

[@shitsugane]

Wow...

[@jonchowe]

I do not see the citation... Am i missing something?

[@KerryDMcCauley]

3:19 ibn the video.

[@gordslater]

yeah, you're missing the Citation

[@susanschofield2705]

Watch again😁

[@jonchowe]

@@gordslater lol this is why I am not, and will never be, a pilot

[@jamiehudson4894]

@@jonchowesame

[@AJay-ip1mp]

This man is dangerously casual to be where he is in the take-off roll to be just getting around to securing his seat harness, which also resulted in having to take his eyes off the runway. He didn't learn that in flight school. And good thing his passengers all are wearing parachutes, with that near miss with the Citation.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Nope, didn't learn that in flight school. I learned it by doing thousands of takeoffs off my private strip, which is about 250 feet wide at that point.

[@MonkPetite]

Get a twin otter. They hand you more view that this thing.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

We had one for a long time. I love the Otter but the Supervan is much more efficient.

[@davidmotter5140]

Twice the fuel burn

[@KerryDMcCauley]

@@davidmotter5140 And twice the engines to work on.

[@pamshewan9181]

A little too close…..

[@KerryDMcCauley]

WAAY too close!

[@barbaradavis393]

You need that really big nose for that really big engine.

[@libertine5606]

IFR, SVFR, VFR? Because I am sure you are 500, 1000, 2000, cloud clearance.

[@KerryDMcCauley]

Of course!

[@gostatyrefors5612]

Lack of cloud separation looks to be part of the problem, brave to publish this.

[@FutureSystem738]

This caravan flight was NOT complying with cloud separation rules for VFR! THAT is why such rules exist!

[@jimydoolittle3129]

Literally ✈️ a caw 😖

[@SnoDawg]

This pilot is way to easily distracted.

[@LuMaxQFPV]

Your audio is WAY too low.

[@MADmosche]

Fine for me.

[@richardgash2349]

99 % of people flying should not be your one of them

[@bretheidkamp]

Kerry’s got more experience and hours flying than you’ve probably been alive. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

[@Littlebigbot]

What did you pull that statistic out of?

[@BlazingShackles]

boring