Citronella, Poison Potato Salad, and other Summer Myths

[@ifirun]

I just finished a first aid session for working for my local rec department. We spent way too much time on the bee one, good to know that it doesn't matter in case one of my program kids does get stung.

[@TheTundraTerror]

"Who signs up for these studies?!" Poor people.

[@andrewpoderis8548]

Love that line. So Funny 😂

[@CoJau911]

i'm a med student who is a big fan of the Myth Busters, so this channel is heaven for me.

[@biggydx]

Hello Healthcare Triage. With the recent congressional hearing and testimony involving Dr. Oz, regarding his advertising of nutrient supplements and their lack of supposed benefits, maybe it'd be worth considering doing a video of Nutritional Supplements? I've come to find that the Nutritional Supplement industry is largely unregulated, as they not only do not have to seek approval from the FDA, but they also don't even have to contain the advertised ingredients that are touted as being "miraculous".

[@RinoaL]

0:07 consistent warm weather? LOL i guess if you live in California or somewhere that the weather is more regulated by the ocean. not illinois or a lot of other places though. summer is too hot here. over 100 degrees for most of several months.

[@BrotherAlpha]

0:55 "Who signs up for studies like this. They should do a study on that." They did... on SpongeBob. I review DVDs and Blu-rays as part of my job and a recent SpongeBob DVD had Sandy Cheeks doing a study where she was trying to determine what nasty things people would eat if they thought they were part of a study.

[@andrewpoderis8548]

That was my favorite line out of the whole video 😂😂

[@LucysCorsetry]

0:54 "Who signs up for studies like this?" Perhaps patients with rheumatoid arthritis? www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18807725

[@healthcaretriage]

I don't think the ones in this study had RA, though.

[@Anonarchist]

Healthcare Triage poor people willing to do anything to pay the rent.

[@carlosp.6784]

Healthcare Triage I'd sign up probably. Why? FOR SCIENCE!

[@drunkenroundtable]

Carlos P. Or, FOR MONEY!

[@Everfalling]

Was the video supposed to end so abruptly after the swimming thing?

[@StupidButCunning]

I think they just forgot to toss on the end sequence during editing. I expect that was the end of the points to be made in the video.

[@KarimElHayawan]

It's the KZbin-way of dropping the mike.

[@KarimElHayawan]

jones81381 Curses. I could of course edit it but that would be a bit ingenuous. So I'll leave it as is. Thanks though. PS But what if I meant to literally drop a Micheal?

[@CygnusExOne]

I voluntarily get stung by jellyfish just so that I can ask strangers to... yeah... And then I ask for their phone number.

[@christophenwang]

Great video! Thanks! You guys should make a Myths database with link to research paper.

[@healthcaretriage]

That's what my books are for! :)

[@AZxTu]

I'm intrigued if when researching citronella what other research you found on "alternative" mosquito and insect repellents. And how toxic is DEET anyway?

[@TheGmoney4980]

I knew about almost all of these myths. However, now I have quick ammo to show people (mostly family) that they have been misguided for years. Healthcare Triage Thank You!

[@danieljensen2626]

Eating won't give you cramps, but if you eat within an hour of intense swimming with flip turns you will probably get very nauseous and eventually throw up. 10/10 do not recommend.

[@YouWillNeverKnowMan]

It's funny how things they tell you when you are a kid stick with you at adult age. The wait-before-swimming explanation has always made sense to me... but after this video I did some research and discovered it has absolutely no scientific robustness whatsoever. Very informative video!

[@LinnersC]

As anecdotal evidence, I used to be a competitive swimmer. On morning practice days when we started swimming at 5AM I definitely was in bed for as long as possible, so I was eating breakfast 15 minutes before I swam. Other than avoiding dairy or other long-to-digest foods because of the tendency for them to come back up, I had no other problems with eating right before I swam. At meets, we would eat continuously to keep our energy up and then race. Never had anyone I knew or myself have cramps because of that. We weren't on a full stomach or anything, but still I have never seen evidence of this myth happening at all.

[@kujmous]

I think my knowledge of these was spot-on, but having the conciseness of a single video with research is lovely. Wait. I learned new things about poison ivy. Awesome!!

[@iandvaag]

You mentioned washing fruit. I'd love to see a HCT episode on how to wash fruit effectively. Does rinsing with water do anything at all? Is it fine to eat unwashed fruit?

[@DrakirNosslin]

Thank you for doing this, your channel is awesome! Would a video on the dangers of/reporting on energy drinks (Red bull, monster etc.) be interesting?

[@Nhoj31neirbo47]

To prevent getting a reaction/rash from poison ivy, oak or sumac rub on a cream containing bentoquatam before visiting areas containing these plants. It works by absorbing the urushiol oil so your skin doesn't. Also thoroughly washing yourself after your visit will help remove the oil and reduce any rash.

[@Nhoj31neirbo47]

Also change your clothes if you think you were exposed and put them in a bag or the wash. Something really helpful and fun is to learn to identify the plants so as not to touch them. This has the added benefit of increasing ones knowledge and awareness of your surroundings.

[@PogieJoe]

4:33 Typo! Or was that just a mind game? Great episode, Aaron!

[@kylewong7050]

Lifeguard here for many years, the whole reason we don't want kids to eat right before swimming is so that they don't throw up in our pool. A lot of parents want to make sure their kids have energy before hopping in the pool, and sometimes its too strenuous for the children and they end up throwing up their meal. It's not really about the health and well being of the swimmers, but once somebody throws up then nobody gets to swim anymore. I can't tell you how many times I've been able to identify what the kids just ate because the food in the vomit was so undigested.

[@debgrock69]

I was at a pool party as a kid and had gone back into pool after lunch. I got the dreaded cramps but worse than that I became lethargic and didn't have the strength to get myself out of the pool. It was terrifying.

[@MollyBlueDawn]

Thinking about the best way to remove a bee stinger makes me wonder about the best way to remove a tick. I have seen a lot of contradictory advice about that.

[@rosiecouture1]

Australian children are taught about jellyfish from a very young age. It does not surprise me at all we've done a lot of research on it. I'm loving this channel, have fun at vidcon!

[@xnatcat13]

Thank you so much for the poison ivy myth. I got a lot on my arm this week and haven't been willing to touch people with that arm because I thought it was still contagious.

[@tHe0nLyNeXuS]

The reasoning behind waiting a while after a meal, and only then swim, is that water is usually much colder than the outside air. The sudden thermal shock can cause digestion problems and cramps: most of us are familiar with digestion problems caused by air conditioning or even just direct wind to the body from an electric fan. That said, there is nothing wrong with playing in the water or even swimming, as long as one is aware of the possible problems.

[@ivanclark2275]

I've never thought about the amount of venom as the reason you should remove the stinger, I've always heard that there are pheromones that are released by the stinger that attracts more bees, and that's why you should remove it quickly.

[@BarryPiper]

The good doctor mentions citronella candles and how they lose effectiveness as you move away from them, but what about home made sprays containing citronella and other aromatic oils like eucalyptus or peppermint? If citronella does in fact provide some level of protection (as granted here in the video) then it seems like the way to get around the limited effective range would be to apply it directly to your skin.

[@dudemcduderton]

Great video! If you do a round 2, could you weigh in on sunburn treatments? I'd like to know if vinegar really helps, or if it's just stinky.

[@mrafaeljidi]

1) Every time I eat after exercising for a long time, I inevitably become a bag of spasms. That is why I try not to eat too soon after exercising and vice versa. 2) So the only reason why urine might have helped is because of it having urea which denatures proteins such as those in charge of firing the stingers and maybe those making the poison? just a thought.

[@bandnerd29316]

I was always told that Citronella candles don't work but the actual Citronella plants do repel mosquitoes. However, I don't think it repels them from people so much as your other plants around it.

[@Quagthistle]

I have personally gotten a bad cramp while swimming (right after lunch) across a section of water to the opposite beach (so we didn't have to walk an extra mile or so along the shorline to get back to camp). Yeah, a bad cramp will kill your use of legs entirely, and makes breathing hurt, but your arms still work. If you can't swim in calm water with only your arms, then don't swim across deep bodies of water as a shortcut. (Really, you never know what might happen - shortcuts like that are only for confident swimmers.) Had I been in a pool, yes, I'm 100% sure that I could have reached a ladder or stairs very easily. As it was, however, I made it across a bit slower than my Dad (who didn't have a cramp at all despite us having shared lunch together), but I certainly did not drown or need any assistance to reach the other shoreline. Since the shortcut was about 50 yards across and the cramp kicked in near the halfway point, I'd agree that any marginally capable swimmer should be able to exit the water safely if they have a cramp.

[@vlogerhood]

Typo at 4:35. "is not is not"

[@sdufrane31]

Can you do a video on hospital acquired infections? I want to hear about the research on that!

[@Likeomgitznich]

I've never heard the "you might drown" swimming myth. I only heard that little kids should swim directly after eat because they way vomit, which in my experience seems to be a 50/50. But any type of heavy activity and pressure on the abdomen could logically caught this

[@1theo0]

I learnt in biology class that foxes urinate on hedgehogs because it partially dissoves their quills and makes them let their gurd down, and have also been told that urine can break down the the quill of a sea urchin. Is it true?

[@Farfromhere001]

Would really love to see episodes on chagas and malaria prevention!

[@pitchwind]

Re: eating and swimming myth, I have some quality anecdotal evidence! I tend to heave when I overexert myself, and this happens much much faster and in direct correlation with how full of food I am. I don't know if there is an underlying medical issue, but I've never gotten it checked, because honestly, it pretty easy to live around, and I can't imagine anything that would "fix" it. I can exercise on a relatively empty stomach just fine, and I do so happily. But within a couple hours of a full meal, it's usually a ticket to vomitsville. That said, swimming can be very dangerous in this situation, as you're not always in a situation where you can stop RIGHT NOW to void a stomach, ie: deep water. Sometimes, you're not even in a situation where you can get to a safe position for a rest with reasonable warning -- wavy lakes, and so on. All of that considered, I've still done competitive swimming, it's only been an issue when I've pushed myself too hard for too long, or whenever I've recently eaten. My 30-minute rule is a two-hour rule.

[@jliller]

I think the idea of urinating on jellyfish stings is confusion with stepping on sea urchins. I don't know if urine (or vinegar) actually helps with THAT, but I know that is what I was once told by someone supposedly in the know (Red Cross, I think).

[@ig7157]

I would love for Healthcare Triage to go over misconceptions about alcoholism, other substances abuse, and rehabilitation.

[@jhobbz45]

I couldn't participate in basketball practice in high school because of the poison ivy myth. I was so mad because no one believed me it was not contagious.

[@healthcaretriage]

Send them here!

[@jhobbz45]

Healthcare Triage I'm not really in touch with those people any more. I had to print off a bunch of Mayo Clinic and other reliable online sources to give to the athletic trainer to prove I wasn't insane. It was so frustrating hearing my team mates and coaches state how "everyone knows it's contagious".... no one apologized after the fact either.

[@Anonarchist]

jhobbz45 stupidity and ignorance are a staple of american education.

[@Eric_D_6]

Anon archist don't forget laziness and groupthink.

[@sann3119]

@ 1:10 doesn't matter how you remove it. but, it is time sensitive.

[@Farfromhere001]

MORE PLANT INFO PLEASE!

[@ntcssj]

Swimming after eating does sound like it would hurt! But that's only because I have severe acid reflux, so even standing up after eating can be painful for me.

[@misguidedriver9768]

This is hilarious. I'm now getting adds for citronella plants.

[@JamesElwell]

Well, that ended abruptly. No post roll or preview of what's next?

[@lmpeters]

How different is the rash-causing oil in poison oak from that in poison ivy? Does the same advice apply?

[@TheDajamster]

For bee stings, if you wet a small bit of tobacco & put it on the sting, the burning will subside. But it will also itch, like it's moving on through to the next healing stage. I've done this & it works. I have no idea why.

[@mitchellhahn]

You should do an episode on the addictive effects of healthcare triage. There's been no episode this week and I'm going through withdrawal!!

[@amacro11]

You hit some interesting points -well done

[@GDgio1]

Please do a video about myths concerning bodybuilding supplements and fitness nutrition, such as protein, amino acids, creatine and much more. :)) thank you! I find your videos very interesting, keep up the good work my man!))

[@DanKalc]

What about doing sleep after a big meal?

[@gwaur]

No! The camera isn't perpendicular to the table! This annoys me! :(

[@ljmastertroll]

It always comes down to cramps. Is there a cramp foundation or something?

[@Notevenmyrealname]

As an Australian Swimming during jelly fish season the carrying or use of vinegar isn't about reducing the pain but is an emergency first aid necessity box jelly fish stings are DEADLY and cause cardiac arrest in humans and stoping even a small quantity from firing can save your life

[@twin934]

can you do a video on the keto diet??

[@ZimmervisionCZ]

4:37 "...the rash itself is not IS NOT contagious."

[@bhunterwillis]

Just wondering, can you do a video on porn's effect on the brain, or is that too taboo.

[@finnhambly]

Have citronella sprays been studied? I guess they'd be better because you spray them on yourself rather than having to stick by a candle to repel insects, right?

[@Ina22ndCentury]

Did the default video player get larger?

[@sampatnoe1220]

Where did you get that medical art behind your desk??

[@thestrangejames]

I used to volunteer as a beekeeper for my university's apiary. The advice for scraping off the stinger as opposed to pinching or plucking it out doesn't have anything to do with the venom, it's just because it works better. Tried and tested, I'm a little sorry to say.

[@oniinu]

Why do we call them "bites" when Mosquitoes actually pierce?

[@ragnkja]

Well, mosquitos actually have teeth. 47 of them, to be exact. No, I didn't want this information either.

[@EtaFrost]

There's a myth that says that swimming after you eat can cause your digestion to stop due to a sudden drop in temperature, resulting in nausea and sometimes vomiting. A similar myth says that eating/drinking very cold things sometime after a meal may cause the same problem. Is there any truth to these?

[@IceMetalPunk]

Um...no. Unless you're getting to the point of hypothermia, your digestion doesn't stop when you're cold. And if you're hypothermic...well, you have bigger problems than nausea.

[@Dragontongue18]

Healthcare Triage Can you make a video about whether sunscreen is effective or not? I've been hearing some different consensus on whether sunscreen is actually useful or not, and even some saying it's harmful, specifically in reference to our body's ability to produce Vitamin D from sunlight.

[@tchingchow]

Can you talk about DO's and/or the ACGME/AOA merger?

[@Omni0404]

I'm always surprised at how abruptly the videos end :).

[@ShtinkiestBinky]

I would like to see an episode on depression. Is depression an actual disease that can be treated or not? Some people complain about how antidepressants don't actually do anything. Is this true?

[@ReliableInsider]

I love this channel!

[@Veve101]

Wait, candles pale in comparison to what?

[@Enke796]

It looks like every association have it's own journal.

[@HailSagan1]

"avoid food that's been out of the fridge for more than two hours." Maybe certain foods on certain (hot-ass) days, but otherwise two hours is unnecessarily conservative. I'm a big fan of these videos, but this bit of advice is just silly. It's that kind of squeamishness that leads so many people to waste food!

[@itisdevonly]

Making homemade mayo isn't just for the past! I make mayo myself because I want to avoid the oils the commercial mayonnaises. I make it with pasteurized eggs, though, to increase the shelf-life.

[@chikenbone2]

I once drank A liter of cream soda and then went swimming, i was suddenly much less buoyant. This caused me to nearly drown.

[@FlippedphysicsNet]

Excellent video as usual! :) I'll see you at VidCon! :D *super excited* I'll be attending everything remotely related to educational video, for obvious reasons *points at channel*

[@badp]

The idea about swimming and eating seems to be that it can stop or otherwise negatively affect the digestion as the body temperature drops too low. People here in Italy actually insist you should wait up to *three* hours before submerging yourself in sea or otherwise cold water. Is that a myth also?

[@ivanclark2275]

You gotta be super cold for it to significantly effect digestion.

[@LinnersC]

I highly doubt that your internal body temperature would change that dramatically to affect digestion. And if it did, you would have much larger problems on your hand than digestion. Your body's normal temperature range is 36.5-37.5 °C if it drops to 35ºC its considered hypothermia. There is not much wiggle room there.

[@TechManMiguel]

To the research! There needs to be a shirt with this! Or just filled with the word research!

[@department1996]

With the background on the back aswell :)

[@healthcaretriage]

I want that shirt, too!

[@department1996]

make it and sell it? ;)

[@department1996]

^^ it's another source of income ;)

[@maxbresticker5181]

4:36- Typo

[@ZettaGale]

can you please make a video about homeopathy, its axioms and what empirical studies have proven about its use?

[@Xsinthis]

omg the camera is tilted O_O

[@chappyhappy8483]

Is it just me or the video stuck on 240p?

[@Zaete0chan]

What about going into the water on your "time of the month"? My mother's always terrified me with stories that it causes a abnormally large amount of flow for the next couple of hours and that you get horrible stomach cramps, and that this is based on "experience".

[@chaospuppy6730]

that's funny, in my experience the flow tends to stem a bit when I get in the water.

[@starlady98]

Do you not shower or bath when it is that time of the month? Our bodies are actually geared to slow down or stop the flow while we are in water. Use a tampon and hop in the pool.

[@LinnersC]

As a former competitive swimmer (also I'm a woman) I can say from my experience that these are all false. I have never experienced any problems during or after swimming. In fact, exercise of any sort helps lessen/prevent cramping. So getting exercise while swimming could be beneficial. My flow rate was not noticeably more or less when I swam. I still changed my tampon as often as I did when I wasn't swimming.

[@LinnersC]

Though one thing is that water does make the blood thinner and so it spreads more. You'll experience this with menses if your tampon is full, or say if you stub your toe and its bleeding. The water makes it LOOK like there is a lot of blood cause it spreads, but you aren't really 'bleeding' any more than normal.

[@Kdnjim]

do one on tap water! bottled water! distilled water!! and the benefits/imeditments of them all!

[@jag519]

If you exercise after eating you could get cramps/sick. I'm assuming the don't swim came from swimming in the ocean type of stuff, where if you got a cramp, you might not be able to just get out of the pool. If you get a cramp while running, you stop, if you get a cramp in the pool, you get out, if you get a cramp in the ocean, it might be harder to swim to shore. I'm assuming that it started like that, and then b/c that is something people have said, it translated to no swimming at all right after, and we all forgot why it was ever true. That's just my assumption for how it started. lol

[@troyadams19]

Isn't DEET dangerous to use consistently?

[@freyameramo9436]

I did my paediatric first aid last week and got taught to scrape and not tweeze bee stings!

[@Octavius1922]

I thought a man of war wasn't even a jellyfish?

[@ivanclark2275]

Not technically, but it's close enough that it makes sense to talk about them in the same conversation. (:

[@Octavius1922]

Are they though? I guess I'd want to make sure the research was specifically for jellyfish. For all I know the venom could be completely different lol but I'm a finance major so I don't have the foggiest idea where to look up such a thing.

[@JustOneAsbesto]

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[@JustOneAsbesto]

Colin Philips You had better fucking hope to sweet baby Elvis that you're a robot, because if you're a human... the shit you say is even dumber heuristically than a rudimentary robot.

[@Octavius1922]

Hey Pesto :-) Please, tell me specifically where I can find quality information and research differentiating effective and ineffective treatments for jellyfish vs. man-o-war stings. And I'm not talking about wikipedia or some random blog; show me peer reviewed evidence. Good luck! :-D

[@thebulletcraft]

Please do an episode on energy drinks! Like how many can kill an average person by age weight height, what's in them, and how many can you drink and stay healthy… and more plz!

[@asmrtpop2676]

A Man O War isn’t a jellyfish

[@roylash1]

when will you do a video about the healthcare system of Israel?

[@howarthe1]

Hurray for pasteurization! I'm having the potato salad.

[@amm0439]

I was told not to swim after eating not because of cramps but because as a rambunctious kid I would twist and turn and make my food come back up.

[@SeerWalker]

I actually had no idea until recently that you could actually buy mayonnaise. Whoops.

[@LividImp]

I just have to say, that as a southern/central Californian, so much of this Summer worship is mind boggling. Summer is the time of the year you have to stay indoors most of the day because it is 110F. Only 2% of Californians live on the coast and the vast majority of us don't have pools. I *HATE* Summer. Summer is misery.

[@Kissarai]

I knew those dumb candles didn't work. I knew it and they said I was just particularly attractive to bugs and I WAS RIGHT. HA.

[@MicroBlogganism]

Sorry to nitpick Aaron, but the Portuguese man o' war isn't a jellyfish

[@gonedeadforlife]

Citronella, Poison Potato Salad, and other Summer Myths

[@Zaekk]

Really? DEET offers full protection? I wonder what I've done wrong with DEET because I remember getting bitten 29 times after going out and doing some paintballing in the woods. I reapplyed once every 2 hours because I was sweating a bit and still got bitten that many times. Keep in mind these woods were thick and I was pretty much the only one in the group that got bitten more than a couple of times.

[@darthsavage4025]

I've heard peanut butter is good for a jellyfish sting (I heard this on Cape Cod)

[@aura666]

the scrape/pinch thing is not really about the venom in the glands, at least not when i hear it. Its more about not getting the stinger stuck in deep...... so if you slap, poke, prod, scratch or anything you could just push the stinger in deep making it that much harder to get out AND it might allow more venom in, as opposed to scraping which would pull it out with the bee if you scrape in the right direction....... dunno if it true or not........ but id just much rather not bother some bees. ew.... mayonnaise.