Cityfibre & Yayzi my experience

#cityfibre #yayzi

[@kev2427]

You’re not going to get 1gigabit over WiFi using a WiFi 6 router. It’s just not possible.

[@xinam]

I hardwire every device in my home that doesn’t move: TVs, games consoles, computers. WiFi for everything else. Always have, always will. Nothing will beat Ethernet for performance and reliability. WiFi in its current iteration will never compete.

[@banne82]

Sadly after watching your video, I can only say you and virgin media both deserve each other! Yayzi seam to be very reasonable company to offer you one month free even when they didn’t do anything wrong. You are sadly misinformed about the wireless technology limitations. Your speed test says everything people need to know about city fibre vs virgin Media and I think most people would make opposite conclusion than yours. But in the end you can choose whatever. I know it’s ridiculous but maybe compare Mbps/GBP for both virgin media and the fibre using not what is promised but what your speed test is saying.

[@ReviewBoxUK]

Think your totally missing the point aren’t you? I will be having an update on this video soon and no it not just me have a look a reviews for city fibre and all the isps with them tbh all of them are as bad as each other just out there to make as much money from you as they can

[@banne82]

Well I switched from Virgin Media after 15 years in 2022 when cityfiber first started rolling out. Was with giganet until last month and now switched to Noone Internet. Not had any issues with any company so far. My mother is switching from sky to a company called Octa this week. So will be dealing with cityfiber next Monday. So I will see if they have regressed in service as you claim.

[@andrewsturmey]

I've never been able to get Virgin on my road. I was pleased when City Fibre started their rollout here, but had to wait for the Vodafone exclusivity period to expire before I could order from a 'real' provider. So far, so good. I leave SSH terminals open for days on end without the TCP connection getting dropped, so it feels fairly stable. All on wired connections though. Still have my old BT VDSL2 connected, and will probably keep it. It is only 80Mb/s down and 20Mb/s up, but has been solid as a rock for well over a decade. Never hurts to have a backup connection when you work from home exclusively.

[@badgerousdadigby195]

1/10 review

[@SaraSiblings]

Respectfully, you are massively misinformed. WiFi 6 routers are capable of pushing out 1gbps wirelessly, however, most devices connecting to the router are not capable of 1gbps over WiFi. That is to say, it's the fault of the devices you're connecting to the WiFi that 1gbps can't be attained wirelessly, not the fault of the router or your ISP. You're not "losing" any speed; the ISP is providing you exactly what they said they would.. a 1gbps uplink to the router. They can't guarantee 1gbps wireless connection on your devices, because most of your devices don't support such speeds wirelessly, even if the router does! When we're talking about gigabit speeds and above, you either need WiFi 6 capable devices to hit >1gbps wirelessly, or wired connections. I am not surprised that they don't want to engage with you, they're providing the service you're paying for.. that's clear by the speeds you're attaining on wired connections, and you don't seem to understand the limitations / technicalities of current wireless technology. Whatever router they provide you, it won't make your existing devices support WiFi 6 speeds. Whatever ISP you go with providing gigabit speeds, it won't make your existing devices support WiFi 6 speeds. Yayzi honestly hasn't done anything wrong here whatsoever other than be patchy with their communications [though pretty much every ISP has this issue]. Yayzi aren't even responsible for the CityFibre cabling.. that's CityFibre themselves. I appreciate that it's probably hugely frustrating, but your issue lies with CityFibre screwing your install/cabling up whilst installing other customers, and [I mean this respectfully] not understanding that your devices are the cause of the "speed" issue, not the router or the ISP.

[@ReviewBoxUK]

Wow that’s some response, I suggest you go have a look at specs of iPhones and Samsung phones from iPhone 13 they can handle just over 800 so I would say with all the developments of the iPhone I’m sure the newer ones will be exceeding that I can confirm as I have an iPhone 13 it handles just over 800 not tested my gaming laptop yet but I’m sure that will and I can test my Samsung flip5 so in some degree you will be right as in old tech. Thanks for watching Oh I have a new 1.6G router coming out at that max 1.6G as WiFi New tech

[@SaraSiblings]

​@@ReviewBoxUK Hey, it's actually not this simple. Whilst 800mbps may be possible with those phones paired with certain routers/configurations/clients, it gets a whole bunch more technical and complicated than this. It's heavily dependent on WiFi 5 vs WiFi 6, the number of "MIMO" streams that the router supports, the number of "MIMO" streams that the client supports etc. As an example, a router may support 4x4 MIMO streams and provide let's say 1600mbps wirelessly. However, a phone may support 2x2 MIMO streams, and thus only achieve 800. If the router doesn't support 2x2 MIMO and only supports 4x4 MIMO, then you'll see further losses, potentially even an automatic negotiation back to WiFi 5 streams/speeds. The router must be perfectly matched to the client device in terms of stream counts, configurations, and WiFi version in order to attain maximum throughput, and that's before we talk about the rest of the variables.. There's also a lot to speak of in terms of signal attenuation, property construction, signal interference, channel interference, distance and signal strength etc. There really is a lot of variables at play here. It's not as simple as "the phone can do 800mbps and I receive 1000mbps to the router, why do I only get 400 on a speed test?"..it's a whole other world of technical, with so many variables. Respectfully, I think this video is a bad look for you - I'm genuinely not trying to be rude or cruel. Yayzi are genuinely providing exactly what they say they would; a 1gbps uplink/downlink [or whatever your package is]. The fact that you can attain these speeds on a wired connection proves that fact. When we're talking about wireless connectivity at these sorts of speeds, there are so many variables that truly *nothing* can be guaranteed. All ISPs base speeds on wired connections, as they should, because these are relatively predictable by comparison. You make bold claims such as "who uses wired connections these days? nobody.", however, when we're talking about these kinds of speeds, who uses wired? Almost everyone. Because it's a necessity.

[@johnmartin6823]

@@SaraSiblings Hi Sara, I enjoyed reading your posts, I gained some knowledge from your posts.

[@ResRules]

What a daft video. Read up on wifi standards.

[@ReviewBoxUK]

@@ResRules well funny how I have a different router and now get full speed on WiFi trust me there are routers out there capable of delivering full speed over WiFi

[@ResRules]

@@ReviewBoxUK yes it must be WiFi 6e or 7 to get full speed.