How underqualified truck drivers are earning their licence in Ontario

[@musicbrain5]

I'm not even shocked that half of these schools are in Brampton and Mississauga.

[@Ynalaw]

Joopy doopy boopy noopy. Makka takkajakka bakka!

[@MrRaErickson]

lol

[@whatcanieat3327]

I pay 2000 dollars. I don’t want get the license from them. I came all the way to Scarborough find a good school.

[@blank_3958]

👳🏾‍♀️

[@MrRaErickson]

If you are Indian in Brampton you get licenses handed to you. I lived their 10 years. I saw how things were done. Real estate forget it. 2 Indian Realtors and their recommended home inspector working in cahoots.

[@CarbonNeutral22]

You only need 40 hrs to get a recreational pilots licence but don't see planes falling out of the sky. Making it harder won't make the drivers better. If team brown isn't following the rules now they won't be following them if they are more even strict

[@manisingh-gk9ee]

Lol! Team brown

[@livestock9722]

Exactly!

[@excess.subiefl0w]

👳🏿‍♂️💀

[@hassanalinoo]

Your right. They want more regulations and rules and despite all this there are more crashes.

[@Brett733]

Team brown never follows the rules unfortunately and Canada is paying the price.

[@justiceleague9658]

Not only truck drivers, many new drivers on the road can’t even read the road sign these days.

[@davidpayumo23]

How did they read the questions on the test?

[@bowbender1]

​@@davidpayumo23interpreters

[@frankvanw1]

@@davidpayumo23 You can do the written test in about 20 different languages in Ontario.

[@BubbafromSapperton]

Don't even know what red or yellow on a traffic control paddle means 😖

[@salami373]

@@frankvanw1 yup, our highways are a tangled mess of flesh and metal

[@TKnHappyNess]

Correction: The headline SHOULD read "How unqualified drivers are earning their licence in Ontario". Not just the truck drivers out there on the roads endangering people

[@frankvanw1]

The publication "Truck News" and the "Toronto Star" did many articles on that topic. Safe driving.

[@omicrondelta249]

Conflict of interest and corruption are par for the course in modern Canada

[@frankvanw1]

Here are 2 big problems: 1. The 42 hours on road training at the Brampton (Punjabi) school is done with instructor in passenger seat, student in driver’s seat and 2 or 3 other students sitting on the bunk. The “bunk” students learn nothing and the hours spent there is credited to them as on road hours. 2. No graduated licensing requirements. A student can go from driving a Honda Civic to “a big rig” over 140,000 lbs gross just like that. We have graduated licensing requirements for the 16 year old new car drivers, although not AZ DRIVERS!

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

Well they're taking a page out of c.r. England playbook. They've been doing two or three students at a time for many years

[@louisliu5638]

@@truckerkevthepaidtourist Decades ago when we had that chance to do graduated licensing I argued that before long haul I'd like to see five year of accident free driving a 5 ton downtown in Vancouver. I was a volunteer Treas. for 65 trucking companies, the old CBRT Local 101. BUT during the eighties rec/dep. the truckers all seemed to be coming out of Ontario. this answers a lot of questions for me.

[@bibiayube677]

The woke mob might label you as racist for speaking the truth

[@bowbender1]

My buddy works as a shunt driver at an auto plant. He told me you wouldn't believe how many can not even back a trailer into the loading docks

[@alvindueck2104]

Sounds like an east Indian thing to do

[@afar9587]

It's all Brampton Indians. Half of them are on the phones driving carelessly the other half can't read signs

[@Ashley_van_Schooneveld]

They also tailgate and go over posted speed limits!!

[@stephenmorris9704]

Ooh yes, good country dis Canada. I am never leaving.

[@robp3741]

I have a client in Ontario that owns a trucking business. When I asked how business was his response was "I'm not in the trucking business I'm in the Immigration business"

[@hassanalinoo]

Your right

[@mattjek828]

@@hassanalinoomy right?

[@tosinade1608]

What does that mean if you could elaborate

[@tosinade1608]

Nevermind didn't read it correctly

[@bowbender1]

How many that don't speak English or French get a translator that has written the tests many times to help them out during their exams

[@Khalistan159]

You shouldn't need to speak the frog eating language. Their a bunch of fairies.. u wanna speak French go back to France

[@MoorLife360]

French 😂who cares

[@stephenmorris9704]

It wouldn't matter what language, the instructors issuing the license are to blame. Several have been caught taking cash bribes for passing under qualified drivers . The qualified drivers were deliberately failed for doing the driving test legally, while others passed the cash envelope in exchange for a passed test .

[@douwedijkstra2197]

What do you expect from guys who used driving a donkeys

[@robfatoric8799]

All 3 levels of government have become useless more about them selves than actually helping the people

[@jabikuriee33]

Fact! This is all Canadian services!

[@jabikuriee33]

How about that customer harassment recordings on every Canadian service calls as if we needed that? Unless people are being mishandled ...!

[@edwardpardy7866]

New immigrants should not be allowed to take advantage of the system and be able to demonstrate an ability to communicate clearly in English before driving in an English speaking country as well. Allowing tests done in a native tongue do not help these folks work with us on the road. And the driving culture of, bribing, agressivess, and 'how much can I get away with' does not belong here at all.

[@The_Travelling_Tradesman]

Tie the schools to the drivers record. If they sign off they should be held accountable. Or at least looked at.

[@robertwatson6850]

U said the best thing I've herd

[@markhammer2943]

Keep the Punjabi out of the driver seat and problems solved.

[@bigfoot1968]

i agree, and the africans, there is no snow in africa or middle east, yet i see these these morons on the road in winter, that is why people are dying,......no more standards...........

[@lylesommers5018]

I couldn’t agree more

[@audiecindygulbrandsen1028]

Not a problem until some high level poiltician or rich person loses family members to this problem.

[@MrMannyhw]

They would never. Their rich family members just hiding.

[@Raisinsaredumb]

I’ve been a fully licensed AZ since 1998 operate many combination trucks and loads The danger out on these roads are unbelievable

[@Trythis837]

In 98 you could get an A license with a pick up truck and a landscape trailer lol and they’re freaking out about a training course.

[@markwhite6719]

Yea because of brampton

[@bobsmithers]

Sounds like its time to give it a rest.

[@juliogonzo2718]

These guys go on like Toronto is dangerous, come hang out on 11 and 17 lol

[@Raisinsaredumb]

Back when I used to wake up late and was late the hole day it’s was wfo 11/17 style haha

[@craigdax]

We this doesn’t surprise me. All you need to do is just drive on the 401 for a few days and you’ll see how bad some of these guys are. I’ve seen a truck wive in and out of traffic. I’ve had a truck come over on me and push me on to the shoulder of the 401 and many other just put their indicator on and move over without make sure it is safe to do so.

[@joemills950]

Everytime I signaled to change lanes four wheelers speed up so I can't move over, no respect on the roads anymore.

[@juliogonzo2718]

@@joemills950 yeah I giver 0.5 blinks and start coming over because the idiot behind you will speed up and block the lane you are trying to move into otherwise.

[@louisliu5638]

Even in courier when Loomis was number one in the west, the Toronto depot was 1/4 the size of Vancouver's and had EIGHT TIMES the accidents. Yes, that meant the 401 was heavily involved. Along with black ice. And idiots.

[@juliogonzo2718]

@@louisliu5638 at least it wasn't in Surrey lol

[@louisliu5638]

@@juliogonzo2718 that's EXACTLY where almost all of the Florida dr. lic. holders live and own, along with the tandem axle gravel truck drivers. How'd you guess???

[@anthonymichaels257]

In Ontario you can get your truck drivers license by mailing in the bar code from a box of Fruit Loops

[@alexis.k6224]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bowbender1]

Seems to be that way with just about any license.....lol

[@antondelosreyes3360]

It’s not fruit loops anymore. It’s red bull or monster

[@lylesommers5018]

No wonder all the brown brothers eat fruit loops.

[@lylesommers5018]

I always wondered why they eat fruit loops.

[@alexhenderson4543]

It’s scary to see them given people large equipment with zero hours behind it

[@juliogonzo2718]

Maybe make the job more attractive to employees and people with a brain will want to drive truck again. I'm 39 and have been working in the trucking industry since I was 19 and every day it sucks more and more. People like me who actually care are leaving and being replaced by people who don't. The more people who don't care, the more restrictions that are placed on the job and more people who care leave. It's a vicious circle. The other problem is a lot of companies that are owned by a certain group hire their own people and then abuse them. They are newcomers and don't know their rights as an employee or don't want to rock the boat and get taken advantage of. One problem I can see with the training is these companies will pay for the training and then the drivers are indebted to their employer. It's almost human trafficking. They bring them over and then the employee is in their pocket and gets abused

[@javiersepulvedahidalgo3255]

No many MTO scales in Ontario Most of those drivers are from India, they are extremely aggressive driving behavior, they get trained in parking lots and put on the road without experience. I have been driving in Noth America for more than 20 years, and I have a clean record. Those trainers should be put on test by the MTO in canada 🇨🇦

[@varinder006]

💯 agree

[@ricardo9013]

Thank you for your hard work. I'm 28 and been driving moving trucks since i was 19 with no problems. I got my DZ road test in a few weeks but i don't think i'll ever get my AZ. Why would anyone want that life is beyond me. Poor guys get treated like dirt, under payed, high risk the list goes on. Then good drivers get called "Underqualified" by people who have never touched a truck

[@a.r1832]

@@ricardo9013 Hear hear Rick! I rest my case.

[@markw.2106]

That's happening here! My wife attended a CDL school attached to a college in NC, the driving required was a fraction of what I had to do in a private school.

[@Steph_7d7]

There has been a huge change in drivers over the last 5 years, big time. The government is as much to blame as shoddy training schools.

[@elena6516]

correlates with opening the floodgates to people from countries with no traffic rules. funny how that works.

[@excess.subiefl0w]

@@elena6516 👳🏿‍♂️

[@HarrySasquatch]

Diversity is the insurance company’s strength

[@leebmc91]

What I love is you have drivers who have never driven in canada in a car getting their truck drivers license. I think you should have to drive in candanfor at least 5 years before you can get a truck license

[@truth6612]

Good Luck on that one. These immigrants will be crying discimination right off the bat.

[@mikealvarez7505]

In the States, you only need to pass one road test (usually takes around 10-15 minutes) and once you pass, you can immediately get a CDL (to drive buses and trucks). Some states are even getting rid of parallel parking. I agree with you that there should be a waiting period between obtaining your full license and applying for a truck driving license.

[@Erich2142]

You can ask that question to everyone who drives a vehicle in this country.

[@varman001]

All these new drivers... mostly students and visa workers from India... they don't even have experience driving a personal vehicle... but they directly get their commercial license with minimal training. This is ridiculous! I ve been a professionally trained commercial driver for 8 years... but gave up driving commercially after seeing untrained idiots causing deadly accidents. corruption and corrupted people from other countries putting Canadians at risk every day. Must be addressed by the government and need a total overhaul on commercial vehicles training and licensing.

[@AngelNumberXXX]

It's so true.

[@Rio-uv1gs]

By the time Trudeau is finished his immigration banaza the pay will be $16 hr for Trucking jobs.

[@dr.schultz9023]

Can't help it buddy. The government is also being indianized.

[@AngelNumberXXX]

@Dr. Schultz The Great Replacement / White Race Genocide. They're doing it on purpose.

[@ohmygod1945]

Company push to go out on bad weather day. Snow plow is so slow in Ontario. Start snow plow middle of snowing. It means already icy conditions

[@TheMarmaduke1975]

We are a smaller company, insurance says no to new drivers. Must be 3yrs experience and 25 years old. We can pay for the training but can't get around the insurance issue.

[@eduardfrazao3506]

The are Ponjabe from Mississauga never drove before

[@kevinmacmillan1227]

You can blame this on the Ontario government almost every one of the accidents in Ontario involving a commercial vehicle the percentage is high that the companies involved are from Brampton,Mississauga,Oakville and the surrounding areas. The drivers that have been out here a long time have seen this going on for years and you couldn’t say anything because they would say your a racist.There are companies taking people’s money and pretty much guarantee the people they will get there license.This scam has been going on for years and the government should be making these people do there test again through the MTO

[@jeffreycairns767]

It's because they buy their license from someone who works there or through other means. $500 cash will buy you an AZ license, but only to Indians, by Indians, in Indian areas, such as you pointed out. They've ruined the industry. I drive for Loblaws and I'm not joking when I say, 95% or all the drivers in Ajax are Indian. They break stuff all the time and never get fired.

[@bowbender1]

Being called a racist in today's environmental is like a merit badge. You know they have no argument when that card comes out

[@adrianjones2067]

Had a driver who had to back in to drop off load, after 45mins of failing to do so, he left and drove back to Toronto. How do you get your license if you can't back up???? Needless to say he was one of our commonwealth friends.

[@seanjohn3141]

As a driver of 20+ years in heavy haul I completely agree an its making some of us want to give up the carreer an passion we have is lost when it's getting crazier on the roads cars an trucks that shoukd never have gotten a license in the first place out there craziest part though for me is when we have to do are written renewal exam there are drivers in the kiosk on phones with translators probaly helping them pass these questions if someone can't understand signs or questions related to driving why on gods green earth are we allowing them to pass or someone helping them pass its insane

[@timseles3044]

Driving truck is a biggest joke They pay the truck drivers nothing Mandatory 70 hours before you get your overtime But there's a shortage I wonder why

[@new_nonsense]

Thank you for bringing this up. This should be national headlines. I have a trucker on my street and he mentioned how these young kids come as international students and get into trucking and now you have 20-22 year olds inexperienced drivers behind the wheels of these big machines being reckless.

[@kamalsaini4407]

How many days of classes u took to have your license we as an international student provide for our family and ourself this is just hate we regularly see some idiot drivers on road who don’t understand how to drive every person none the less what they drive should be trained properly

[@jamesmcnaughton9575]

@@kamalsaini4407 it's not hate.....it's reality.....I am a log truck operator in Northern Ontario , and we also provide for our families......It took me roughly 4 full years of driving tandem with a class 3 Alberta licence before I was hired and insured as a class 1 driver.......I have been witness to 7 or 8 highway 17 fatalities involving eastern Ontario semi trucks with young ,and likely unqualified, drivers being shoved behind the wheel and told that they will be fine.......Iast year at a Husky in Dryden Ontario I had to show a driver how to lower his moose bumper so that he could open his hood.....I have nothing more to say

[@SabbyAKAOmi]

@@kamalsaini4407 Bro isn’t it a fact though? I run transport and warehouse business and I can not agree more with the facts mentioned!

[@Crazy_World_4_You]

@@jamesmcnaughton9575 agree these students are here to work as a truck driver but not to study. Study is just an excuse to get in to Canada. Driving big rig with absolutely 0 winter driving experience. Ridiculous!!!

[@TizTime]

Diversity and equity..both safe and effective 👍

[@MrMannyhw]

Diversity and equity is our strength?! But definitely lack of ethics.

[@jesseaka]

Trucking companies in the GTA have applied to the federal Labour Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) to recruit international truck drivers as Temporary Foreign Workers. These foreign workers enter into the field of trucking with forged foreign documents that helps them to bypass the regular minimum training expected of truck drivers in Ontario. When these drivers are responsible of serious vehicle collisions, they escape to their home country. Families of the decease in Canada and US never receive justice.

[@Recklooseranch]

FYI THE ARMY PUTS YOU INTO AN ARMY TRUCK WITH ZERO DRIVING LICENCE. You don't need one to drive anywhere in Canada as long as it's a government vehicle...yup.

[@frankvanw1]

Really? you don't need the military occupation code for truck driver?

[@Recklooseranch]

​@Frank Van Wiechen as a cook I drove a MLVW as my first vehicle to which I got a civilian licence 3 years later..even crashed the truck..and still had to drive a smaller vehicle. They do vehicle training yes but doesn't cross over civilian side

[@jameswright7923]

The responsibility of a truck driver and liability far out weigh the pay. This is nothing . Imagine a large truck with the most precious cargo , children/ school bus makes even less money Shows you where are priorities are ? All these drivers of both big rigs and school buses should have extensive training and the pay to match I drove truck for years and when you added up the hours on log book compared to pay it worked out to 11.50 an hour , so I gave it up . With respectable training and respectable pay usually comes respectable drivers ?

[@JayFresh98]

I like how the news blurs out the trucking company’s and at the end of the video you can see a Canada Carthage truck in the background 😂

[@bugattiveyron620]

We all know who lives in Brampton and mississauga..there ...I said it , and it's sad

[@tonygray359]

Brampton is No#1 manufacturer of East Indian truck drivers. These guys can perform some straight driving. When it comes to back-up they pay others drivers between $20 - $40 to do the job for them. It was a time when I was enjoying the show but it is not enjoyable anymore, because there are more and more in this situation, and they share the road with us.

[@VidWatcher-v4j]

One video I watched on here explained that some of the Brampton and Mississauga driving schools taught the person how to pass the test, that's all.

[@denizyazici5290]

Most of these drivers are from Brampton. Someone once told me that the U.S. CBP had flagged a truck entering Ontario at the Peace Bridge at Fort Erie with 5 individuals as team drivers. They notified Canada Customs to call in the MTO Commercial enforcement unit to check on the drivers once they pass the border into Canada. It was discovered that they all had the same name except different photos on their driver's licenses. The license numbers were all the same as well. It turns out that the MTO traffic examination centre in Brampton was used to seeing the instructor taking the exam in place of the student and passing them. Phrases such as "I see you're Mr. Singh today, welcome to your road test..." were commonplace. I'm sure bribes were also paid. Most of those drivers also have issues speaking and understanding English coherently and competently. It has become a running joke about the "Brampton wrecking crew truck drivers association" as they have been known to wreck bridges, knock down powerlines and traffic signals, wreck cars, destroy complete buses with a hockey team inside and cause a whole lot of choas on the roads of North America.

[@davidpayumo23]

If the job paid better then all the drivers wouldn't be from Brampton?

[@lamarmartin847]

@@davidpayumo23 the reason there is a driver shortage is less due to the fact of lack of pay but more about all the rules and regulations of the industry driving a lot of the old school guys in the industry into retirement.

[@louisliu5638]

@@lamarmartin847 That "wave" of old school is hitting hard today, plus since "contracting out" in the early eighties rec/dep. rigs now run 200 to 300 thousand dollars A lot of families "fund" the truck and that's not likely to happen with white Cdn. families. So you have a take over and we are now in a mess.

[@rickchopra1304]

I know you probably hate a lot of yhe Brampton truck drivers. I can read it through the lines. The Hockey team incident was a driver not even from Ontario. So before you spew your semi racist rant because you probably blame all the immigrants for taking "your " jobs. Check the facts.

[@louisliu5638]

@@rickchopra1304 Yes, hopefully he'll be summarily deported upon serving his sentence. However, you AND transit safety are missing the road point: I could write a book on the pressures these drivers are under due to the demands of their family under writing the cost of the trucks. That means they drive fatigued, get the "job" by buying it (normal where they come from) and as a result PEOPLE ARE DEAD. Our three most recent accidents locally are ALL with drivers with no footwear. at the point where people DIE this is not a "racist rant' this demands an investigation into the parameters of safe roads, safe driving. and why we struggle with enforcement of that safety. Waltzing all the time over to tShe race side of the cereal box won't stop the deaths.

[@quonslecn7755]

Remember, Police also have less 'training time' than a hair stylist as well. And they carry deadly weapons.

[@timothystone3360]

That may be true in the United States however is far from it in Canada.

[@jp6614]

​@Timothy Stone The Arse CMP where I live break every DMV law. Then turn around dishing out lies dishonesty and corruption. 👎

[@modernhistory8978]

@@timothystone3360 in the USA it’s the same as Canada for police academy 6 months Stop acting like Canada has better train cops than USA they are both first world countries and are relatively the same country with a few differences

[@timothystone3360]

@@modernhistory8978 Cops in the USA can be hired right out of high school. (Grade 11 with some programs). Canadian Police must have college. They must have a accreditation in the OACP for Ontario Police or the TNT for any other Province.

[@timothystone3360]

@@modernhistory8978 The numbers speak for themselves. A lack of police training, police brutally, and use of excessive force is a matter of National contention in the United States at the moment (and historically). It is virtually non-existent in Canada.

[@ericwalker-en8rp]

But it's still going to keep happening because of the Warehouse and Drivers shortage and Major Insurance Company and Trucking Companies plus Dispatchers .

[@superrich2719]

This needs to be a trade…… I have for 25 years in this industry worked as a fleet manager, safety and compliance, driver, owner operator and have a red seal mechanic licence. If truck operators had to train in an apprentice/ journeyman program things would change. It’s to expensive the industry will never change.

[@louisliu5638]

The industry is now running double the weight and horsepower compared to forty years ago. It would be worth it.

[@ccloutier1586]

That's the way to go!

[@ameerhamza4046]

Now we know from where all the swift drivers are getting trained …

[@KP-xi4bj]

Lemme guess? The truck drivers responsible for at-fault accidents are from Brown Town, aka Brampton? Bingo!

[@ohsillybeans]

I wouldn't doubt that every accident is caused by a driver from there

[@slowmo0925]

Jump from a pedal bike to 18 wheeler in a month,it is always a challenge.

[@KP-xi4bj]

True story, I used to work with an Indian girl in an office. Guess what her hubby did for a living? If you guessed truck driving then you won the lottery! One day out of the blue she was asking me for legal advice because her hubby was involved in an accident in his rig. Coincidence? I believe not!

[@CW-rx2js]

Come on we're not all the same!

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@CW-rx2js And it shows on the road!

[@ct8756]

I just got my az license few months ago and start my first truck driving job next week, I'm definitely not confident in my backing , the school just teaches you around cones and never takes you to a dock or a truck stop for real situations its kind of a joke. They teach you only to pass the test and that's all. I paid almost 10 grand out of pocket for this lol. I think government has to make the courses more stricter , no one is near ready to start hauling coming out of cdl school.

[@SimRacingVeteran]

Take it easy, use common sense and you’ll be fine. The more you do it the more natural it will get. Just takes time.

[@DoubleoP]

Can you tell me yhe name of the school where you took the course? Was a reputable facility like Humber college??? Thx

[@ct8756]

It was Transport training centre of canada the biggest truck training school there is , I failed twice because of backing , they wanted to charge me $200/ hour for extra lessons after paying all that money lol so I went to cam scott and instructor was alot better at teaching and had docks in there yard i could practice on also less then half the price . I passed first time with them. Should of went there from Beginning,

[@DoubleoP]

@Ct87 thanks for the info.

[@anthonymichaels257]

Or you could just go to a Brampton truck license mill and pay $1000

[@davidpayumo23]

Oh the name of the place please?

[@anthonymichaels257]

@@davidpayumo23 "A1 Best Price Driver Trainer and Academy"

[@SillyBillies1]

Silly "Brownpton💩" Billy

[@kenmunneke4540]

This can all be placed against GREED. Big trucking companies are all about the bottom line. Hire a fresh out of school idiot that has no experience driving anything let alone a highway tractor because that driver is happy to make $220.00 flat rate to drive Toronto to Montreal and back. The carnage out on the highways involving big trucks is an embarrassment to the industry. Truck driving use to be a professional driver's job and you never seen a truck driver pulled over by the police. Drivers had skill and proper attitude when it came to the job. Now it is ineptitude and ignorance. I am a truck driver licenced since 1989. I got off the road because I could not trust the truck beside me anymore.

[@juliogonzo2718]

Well sometimes they get pulled over. I impounded a semi for the OPP. The guy passed blind and ran two oncoming vehicles onto the shoulder and the one he was passing. The cop was behind him and saw the whole thing. 14 day impound on the tractor and one year licence suspension for stunt driving.

[@BradMcquaidd]

There are a lot of problems. To solve this, according to me, the following should be done. 1. The number of schools offering licenses should be limited to just Ontario Colleges. This will make it more expensive and limit the number of people getting their truck licenses but on the flip side, the drivers will be better trained. 2. Every truck should have a breathalyzer regardless. This would limit the amount of DUI’s in trucks. I’ve seen a lot of drivers who have been charged with dui’s and are STILL DRIVING!! 3. There should be a union like the IBEW equivalent for trucks. I’ve been driving for 8 years. The rates are so low with such long hours that i’ve changed careers to acquiring an electrician license. Once i find a part-time apprenticeship along with my full-time, i will quit trucking for good. I’ve had 7 inspections at scales in north america, no tickets, no accidents, defensive driving is my attitude and habit behind the wheel. My car insurance in brampton is lower than what some people are paying outside of the GTA. Being a driver who has learned from great people (Humber College), it’s a shame that the industry couldn’t keep me, and how many more in the future. The union therefore, would be responsible for training and assigning to jobs and the rates won’t be so low. 4. Lastly, truck drivers, regardless of background and race, should help eachother out. There’s nobody else there for us, the rates are heavily influenced by what company owners pitch to their potential clients, there is no minimum set by anybody which is the reason why it’s so low. It has nothing to do with race/color. Everybody needs to eat, some people are more desperate than others (smaller companies), if we can’t work together, we’ll never work for eachother.

[@mikecarton2866]

The bus load of young hockey players hit by truck killing many. Truck driver new and jailed, yesterday got license, company that hired him got slap on wrist. The company that put him with no experience driving b trains should be in prison not the driver. I drove transport for 30 yrs in recent years towtruck recovery has been very busy.

[@javiersepulvedahidalgo3255]

No many MTO scales in Ontario Most of those drivers are from India, they are extremely aggressive driving behavior, they get trained in parking lots and put on the road without experience. I have been driving in Noth America for more than 20 years, and I have a clean record. Those trainers should be put on test by the MTO in canada 🇨🇦

[@sergiopassos376]

Serco private company mto been gone for like 15 years or more

[@mapletreepower7038]

Few weeks ago my dad told me that some new guy for another company was driving a straight dump truck and had forgotten to lower the bin before going onto the road later clipping a overpass

[@darrylparks617]

In Manitoba, my melt course was $9000 and 244 hours and our road test are done with mpi not the school so no there's no way to sway the examiner to get a free pass it took me 3 attempts to pass my test and when I got a job I was training with a 20 year experienced driver with my company for 7 months

[@juliogonzo2718]

I was at MPI on plessis the other day hauling cars and a guy was walking out with a paper in his hand and his head down. I think it was the walk of shame.

[@ekwma]

I be getting passed by truckers going 40+ over the speed limit in terrible weather conditions so I'm surprised it took them this long to realize

[@livestock9722]

Oh, was that you? Speed up, you're going to cause an accident🤣

[@BossSfeedy]

Just because someone drives faster than you doesn't mean they are bad. Slow drivers like you for 1cm of snow on the road are more dangerous than those who can drive in those conditions.

[@juliogonzo2718]

@@livestock9722 he prob sped up when they were trying to pass

[@heronimousbrapson863]

@@BossSfeedy Driving the speed limit is not considered as driving too slowly.

[@big8gmedia]

All road trucks registered from Ontario are speed governed , they couldnt if they wanted to

[@nanrey]

There is a flood of young drivers (students) because our Federal government is so out of touch. They don’t want to consult with these two industry experts but instead opened the LMIA for this job. So ask those young boys want to get there Permanent residency and earn good money at the same time. But sadly heard stories that that are getting exploited, paid way less in cash in the promise of LMIA.

[@deborahcabot3100]

It was/is a big problem in Alberta. Truck Driving Schools that would give you a truck driving license without lessons or tests. Just pay them the money and away you go.

[@samknott6294]

Yep it's all about the 💰

[@josephphelps5696]

Yupper,Calgary especially! Ya our new-be’s, drive a donkey/with a 2wheel cart in some 3rd world country, then jump into Canada, buy a 1A license, drive a 18 wheeler, tandem trailer behind, 150 thousand Lbs. Load & just go!!! Blowing through stop signs!!

[@louisliu5638]

Provinces REGULATE driving tests and licensing. What you're saying is Alberta is PROUDLY a "freedom fry" state. And it shows.

[@jodybrake8343]

I work in containers in Edmonton, slowly going bankrupt as 1 or more competitors are actively going to India to whatever slums to find drivers. They get paid in food & housing until they get citizenship.

[@chriswoodward5368]

After 45 years in this industry I have seen the changes. You did not ask the 5 W in your article. There no lack of trained truck drivers. What there is a lack of people willing to work under the conditions that they are asked to work and be paid. You can train all the new drivers you want. The retention rate of the industry is abysmal. Until the industry is willing to admit what the real problems are all the schools in the world will not solve the problem good or bad The government and industry need to stop treating this as an unskilled job that anybody can do. That is far from the truth and until that realization has made nothing will change. They have the same problem in the US and some of the European countries. Until truck driving, becomes a trade and is treated like a trade with proper education and salaries nothing will change.

[@bazdeakin8446]

Same in UK

[@adammoke8949]

You can say the same thing of all drivers, not just trucks

[@LohansTube]

I don't know how to drive a truck, but I know just enough to understand that if a four-wheeler squeezes in-front of a moving truck, barely 10 meters apart, and then expect the 140,000 lb monster to break.... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@briane6645]

I got my license when no training was required. Just walk in, write the test, and did the course of the z. Week later, I am driving. Clean record to this day.

[@juliogonzo2718]

Yeah I had a couple hours practice with a guy perfecting shifting and an air brake course. I hit a concrete block years ago but that was my only booboo

[@nightmares2night77]

Ya but your like 60 years old ahahahahahahahaha

[@22mrwright]

Ya it's not guy's like you and me who are driving trucks now that's the problem, just look who has taken all the driving jobs in Canada now

[@KishorTwist]

@@22mrwright Who?

[@louisliu5638]

"no training, no road test"??? Dad died having his Class 1 in Canada and had to do a road test in Calif. upon arriving; 1961. "no training" required WHERE??Florida??

[@zaizoesclashing7103]

as a professional 1a, im more worried about regular drivers then i am another big rig

[@08680868]

Other side of the coin is that if they keep making the process of getting an AZ harder and more expensive then for a lot of potentially good drivers / owner operators this profession keeps becoming less attractive , for the kind of person who is actually capable of taking their training seriously and drive responsibly why would they spend so much money to get an AZ license and then not a get a job even after they get one then not being paid enough after all it's still a driving job , that person would just bite the bullet and go to a college for an electrician course or something like data analytics and as such . Nowadays this profession only attracts youth who are desperate and are not capable of getting into another profession people like this will always be there no matter how complicated you make the process of getting a licence the truth is when it used to be cheaper to get an AZ there used to be lesser accidents on the road , what matters is what kind of drivers are coming into the profession desperate drivers will always be unsafe they will drive more hours without sleep , quicker without breaks what's more training going to do then .

[@Thankyou_3]

Most East Indian truck drivers did not get their license legally. I can challenge anyone on this statement. Retest every single driver in Ontario by one body of team without disparity from different testing location.

[@banneduser978]

Would be truckers just enought to pass the test @1:27 you see an HGC Truck,, that is too funny the truck came in at the right time congratulations HGC.

[@Justin-lp7bl]

We are having similar problems in the states I also believe the other half of the problem is poor training from the companies. I've seen people get their CDL and still not able to shift after schooling

[@juliogonzo2718]

At least now in Ontario if you do a road test in an automatic you get a restriction on your licence and are not permitted to drive a manual

[@Justin-lp7bl]

Its the same way in America

[@louisliu5638]

We had tandem axle dump truck drivers that couldn't back up in Canada. Had to send one of five away as we were in a downtown area loading a sand barge and couldn't use the secondary artery for backing up trucks. It was arrive, back, dump and go or GO AWAY. I had to wonder how they got their license. In BC you have to take a tough written just for your Air Endorsement alone, THEN a road test and training , then a govt. road tester for a ride.

[@wainber1]

I think of lots of videos narrated and produced by the Smart Trucking KZbin man on claims of not-so-good truck drivers having represented a larger % of such active drivers. Driving has for me, as an operator of cars, minivans and small SUVs (in the last case relative to ones such as large GM ones such as the Yukon and Tahoe), meant giving fast-moving vehicles as wide a berth as possible. Yes many drivers of large commercial vehicles are responsible but when there's a crash between one as small as a GM minibus (e.g. the Chevy G4500) and a vehicle no larger than a Honda CR-V, the commercial vehicle will very often cause significant damage to such a smaller vehicle.

[@Greco-Romano]

Brampton resident

[@richardcourtemanche8609]

Yep, throw them on the road with the rest of the population, and whatever happens, happens. The politics of accommodation, tolerance and negligence.

[@alexsimard8224]

Lets not talk about bad regulation that forces the driver to work 14 hour straight with no breaks ya ya

[@fightforfreedom1657]

They should be doing a common sense test if you pass that you get your license

[@NaveMafe]

I've once ,I said it 100 times, they teach them how to get their license and not how to drive.

[@ryans3348]

We all know what the real problem is here. Fresh off the boat straight to the seat, That’s the real issue going on here and ppl are scared to say it with all the sensitivity going around. And with the government handing out grants to schools that are being run by them and with them being the issuer for the road test nothing is going to change. Then companies hire them to get more government subsidies while the ones who are qualified and worth the money aren’t being hired.

[@deepriver4924]

How many of these drivers involved in accidents are new Canadians? This report assumes truckers are always at fault! License for new Canadians should be at least à gradual process at least be driving a car for at least 5 years before be allowed to upgrade to a class license

[@manojmalik1470]

Hey Reporter Aunty can you please tell what was course length for these two veteran drivers in their times ? Let me tell you, they did just one day training before MELT Program. And do you have even single question in Car Licensing, how to behave around trucks ? Answer is No.

[@mag5097]

I spoke with a current driver whom I witnessed personally attempting to back a trailer into a loading zone while standing on the running boards. When I asked how much training he had received because it was painfully obvious very little, he indicated TWO WEEKS. Yep 2 weeks, Welcome to Canada.

[@nothere7198]

Let's be clear. These "drivers" aren't "earning" their license. Qualification and teaching rules need to be upgraded and enforced. Not just in Ontario.

[@elena6516]

funny how the definition of the word "earn" has changed over the years. I have a dictionary from 1940s; the definition therein is "to obtain BY MERIT". the current definition: to obtain, gain, or receive. The merit portion has been dropped.

[@Idrive99]

Looking for qualified driver! Make sure they get paid Enough! Truck drivers gets nuts 🥜

[@Hudsonrulez]

Been trucking for 15 years and these Indian (punjab) fly by night schools are popping all over the place. The province needs to deal with this asap. Call me a racist I don't care people's lives are at stake.

[@deepakchapagai9275]

U need to train more car drivers who even doesn't know how to change n merge. Fix them first, half the problem is solvedp

[@elena6516]

agreed, the vast majority of regular car drivers dont know how to drive around trucks

[@davidjohnmiller4849]

Welcome to Canada immigration , here’s your free health car , a place to live and your AZ good luck !

[@briansimpson6681]

From my experience all the so called driving companies do is teach you how to pass the test. Drive you around the few testing routes and show you all the components you need to touch when inspecting the rig and then badda boom badda bing you are a professional driver. You get experience by driving out on the roads after you pass the test......fun stuff. Driving truck is a soul crushing job......

[@madmikemadmike2175]

2 interesting notes here.... all the truck driver schools are in mississauga and brampton and who lives in them neighbourhood..... and when the show a clip of a scale with its lights off as they mention inspections which is the other problems scales never open.

[@susane7221]

They are driving dump trucks too. I was working as a scale house operator and a lot of the truckers were east Indian. They constantly were almost hitting other trucks or getting stuck somewhere. I gave the driver easy directions to the job site and he apologized for not understanding and said his English isn't good and tried handing me his phone to add the directions to his GPS. They would just say yes even though I could tell they were confused. Watch out. They are everywhere.

[@rayray8687]

Same thing at Walmart.

[@ethanbradberry3767]

I am guessing it's the immigrant truck drivers who are the problem

[@markwhite6719]

Yes big problem

[@markwhite6719]

There mentality is not of canadians they are dumb people

[@mikepittman9260]

The Cars on the road also have unqualified driver's in them. Yes we have an issue with this but it's not just truck drivers.

[@ColtonBlumhagen]

It wasn't that long ago you could. Literally just take the test and that was it. Now you. Need 100 hours of training and that's still not enough? It's already ridiculously expensive to get the training. What should we do make you train for 6 months? A year?

[@FortheLoveofCycling]

Many of these truck drivers need to be disciplined and retrained. Not just to be defensive drivers but also to be mindful of other motorists. This is your life. Be more careful and show more care.

[@Helton_Barbosa]

It doesn't matter how long and intensive the MELT program is if the driver is a reckless and/or negligent one.

[@JENNIFERBOO]

JOHN RHODES MTO FACILITY. Where is it now Mary???????? I rest my case.

[@sjames304]

As a driving instructor with over 20 years experience, I find it unbelievable that an instructor would also be the examiner for the road exam. They are absolutely TWO different jobs. Not in my province is this allowed. What tf is Ontario doing???

[@MrMannyhw]

Ontario lack truckers so business most likely grease the wheel and doing some corruption things to get unqualified people to drive. It’s obvious.

[@DistractionPicklesEveryWhere]

Causing more accidents.

[@nathalieburnside6150]

Some companies are asking drivers to be instructors as soon as they start without making sure they are qualified to train..

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

Not surprised. So many swindlers in Ontario.

[@googleuser1006]

That's not true instructor does not provide exam get your facts straight

[@globaleventscanada]

There is no shortage in the trucking industry but mere exploitation of drivers hence sending away would be good drivers

[@aquariunneo5976]

These 2 were the same back in days when you dont even need the current training. Just pass you air brake and 2 weeks of classes or just hands on training costing 1300$ and get you license.

[@eurekacomment5719]

Some annoying truck drivers hog up both of the two only lanes and they INTENTIONALLY go at the same speed and block all the cars and slow everyone down! Worst truck drivers ever!

[@VidWatcher-v4j]

When a dump truck hits a highway bridge because the bucket up makes me wonder who's driving.

[@brainwells6634]

Back in the 80's thru the early 2000's you could bribe driver's test instructor a $100.00 you automatically passed and you got a Class A C.D.L in Illinois and the Secretary of State and Government went to prison for it

[@donnacabot3550]

Same in Canada for regular driver’s license. 150bks around the same x. They just hide it better now.

[@louisliu5638]

@@donnacabot3550 I doubt that. Canadian govt. employees get huge coin and benefits and wouldn't risk it. There HAVE been a hand full of cases where off shore new arrivals thought they were "helping" new immigrants, but didn't get any "kash" for it at all.

[@jeffreycairns767]

​@@louisliu5638 They still do it for the Indian drivers. Many of them buy their license.

[@louisliu5638]

@@jeffreycairns767 What province? you have to take the "Air' endorsement at BC's govt. site and getting by that isn't easy. I could see FLORIDA. i SAW A LOT of Florida licenses for long haul at BC sites and wondered, since they are Cdn. residents and in Canada. I have a Calif. license as it's required now for our collector cars there.

[@jeffreycairns767]

@@louisliu5638 Ontario

[@Dan-nt2yb]

This explains why I always feel much safer in a hair salon as opposed to the highway.😮

[@raycolley3760]

Maybe they should stop testing veteran drivers with experience and go after the new ones.

[@pking0]

This my friends, is one reason why autonomous driving is getting popular

[@juliogonzo2718]

They will still need a human in the cab. Someone has to go to prison when the autonomous truck kills someone

[@pking0]

@@juliogonzo2718 Need not be. Autonomous fatalities will lead to lawsuits which will be fulfilled by insurances. But no one is going to jail as humans are not involved unless it's a deliberate sabotage of software.

[@juliogonzo2718]

@@pking0 you don't get it. If I as a truck driver make a non deliberate mistake that kills or injures someone, I am criminally liable for my mistake. If an autonomous truck kills or injures someone, whoever is responsible needs to go to jail too or it is a double standard. Despite the fact it is autonomous, a human owns it and a human programmed it and a human will be responsible for its actions as they allowed it to drive on a highway.

[@lawrenceweston922]

Brampton & Mississauga ?!?! Shocking!!!

[@mariomanboarde8192]

just finished the DZ course in Jan. & while doing it i realize that these training schools are all about making money just like every other company in Canada. Also the min required hrs of training isn't utilized properly the school to train the drivers

[@juliogonzo2718]

Back in the day I paid $250 for an air brake course and rented a g class 5 ton for my D road test. I was on pogie and tried to get az training but they turned me down