Lyon, France, Multi Modal Transport Paradise Which Dislikes Transport Enthusiasts!

Multi-Modal transports in Lyon, France, including trolleybuses, trams, several metro lines (one of which is fully driverless) and steep incline railways such as are often used to climb mountains - funicular and rack & pinion / cog wheel. Also seen are cyclists and TGV high speed trains - but not diesel buses or suburban mainline trains.
Footage from several visits in the summers of 1992, 1993 and 2003.
Lyon is the only city where I've ever been ejected from a station simply for using a camera. The human rights of transport enthusiasts to enjoy their hobby are breached through a double-standards policy of the transport operator being allowed to use CCTV surveillance to film the passengers but the passengers not being allowed to use their cameras to film the trains!
In an effort to comply with French law which says that people's permission should be sought before filming them a few scenes are not quite as might be expected and at one time part of the screen is blurred. However the lady who stared at my camera was obviously agreable to being filmed - otherwise she would have looked away, rather than staring at me so intently!
I've not been to Lyon since 2003 and since my camera would not be welcomed I'll spend my money somewhere else - where cameras are welcomed.

[@trainspotting_riviera]

When you were in Lyon in 1990s, Italy had already allowed people to take photos at means of transport. Despite that, there are some cities that wouldn't allow you to take photos in the subway, for example Genoa or maybe Rome and there are other cities that are really nice with transport enthusiasts, such as Milan or Naples.

[@user-el9ji6ws8r]

17:16 except for line C where there is still the previous sittings ( MCL 80 will soon be replaced so it will probably change)

[@NoddyMaccy]

I'm looking forward to going to France. You've captured some great clips here.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Thanks. For France I also have films from Paris, Caen and Nancy.

[@theodeman5314]

love that sound of a vw motor in these busses

[@apollinec6419]

Omg it's so old ! Now the metros look different outside and inside

[@ericcartman65378]

Even white articuled cristalis theyre now gray

[@JeffreyOrnstein]

A wonderfully entertaining video. Now I understand why the front of the trams look the way they do. I always liked the design of their metro trains. Those articulated trolleybuses are behemoths. I wonder if their drivers received an increase in pay for operating a higher capacity vehicle.

[@wl03bu]

Now I regret not stopping in Lyon on my way to Italy.

[@owenchuarbx]

They look very nice

[@paultownsend6919]

My native city of Cardiff, South Wales, had trollleybuses between 1942 and 1969. On,y one route, No. 16 which operated between the city centre and the Pier Head, was subject to a restriction since it had to pass under the bridge carrying the main raiway line acrossBute Swtreet. This route was therefore restricted to single-deckers only, since the bridge was not high enough for a double decker with all the overhead paraphernalia. As a vital safety device, the wiring for Route 16 was totally detached from the wiring for the other routes. The danger was that if the driver of a double-decker forgot what route he was on and might attempt to return to the city centre via Bute Street,. He would inevitable dewire and be brought to a stop without damaging the bus or the bridge - or the passengers. No automatic rewiring device like at 3:00 in this video - the trolley booms had to be moved over by hand with the aid of a 10-foot pole

[@ericcartman65378]

And alstom citadis 402

[@IainHendry]

Yeah, the French are a little crazy about this sort of thing. It's the same deal in Quebec - I was taking some video of the metro and the booth attendant came out and threatened to call the cops on me. Any visits to Montreal I've since taken I email the STM beforehand and get them to send me a letter saying it's "okay" so I can shove it in their face if they give me shit. Japan, on the other hand, is heaven - everyone there loves trains, and everyone there takes photos of them, too!

[@thefrenchelevatorchannel]

I live in Lyon, I take metros and busses everyday, I often take pictures, I didn't have any problem so far... It's strange to see that you've been yelled at for filming. Maybe because this was before internet-era...

[@montblanc3133]

I was born in Lyon and I miss it so much! One day, I shall move back there from Toronto 🍁

[@lyonvibes]

Yeah, but unfortunately it changed a lot (not in a good way) since this 1992 footage... Miss these good ol'days

[@vincentdeguard4726]

Maybe things are different now...what with the surge in smart/camera phones, GoPro and vlogs in general? Either way it was a very interesting video...looks like the future arrived early in Lyon, though shame about all the motor vehicles. It good that they saw fit to put health above cost...because in truth I'm sure if the calculations are done the benefit of doing so is rewarded in the long term. Perhaps you'll reconsider and visit Lyon in the next decade say...

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

In Rome a university study found that it was significantly cheaper to reduce urban air pollution by converting diesel buses to trolleybus than paying the healthcare costs treating people who suffer ill health from air pollution. An added financial issue is that if the family breadwinner succumbs to ill health then instead of supporting the family by earning money and paying tax the breadwinner will be receiving social security payments. Unfortunately few politicians understand or care about such issues.

[@OG_dripYT69]

Line 1 = Line C3

[@SimonS44]

I once photographed the Dortmund Stadtbahn in an underground station (it was my first day with my camera) and a tram departing stopped again and the driver asked me "do you have a permission? Delete the images or I'll call the security". I checked the photos and the driver wasn't even visible...

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

I've never had any trouble filming underground in Essen or Dusseldorf. In Dortmund I filmed the H-Bahn monorail and the S-Bahn station below the monorail without trouble.

[@ChesterWolf]

some of the vehicles in here you'll recognize from a popular game named Cities in Motion and Cities in Motion 2 by colossal order. the company that made cities skylines

[@lorcan2541]

Ikr like the trolley bus

[@hediamarcel517]

Cette video date depuis quand ?

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

3 visits 1991 - 1999

[@OG_dripYT69]

La ligne 1 a changé en bus C3 en 2007

[@OG_dripYT69]

Il y a le Etb12 en etb18 c'est la ligne C3 mais en bus 1

[@stwtranvids2078]

Shame it is prohibited there but that was good as always.

[@trainspotting_riviera]

2 years ago I've been in Lyon and I haven't had any problems

[@ethancampbell6076]

I heard man/hess NMT 222 the short electric bus 6:06

[@HDTransport]

And I heard a Cristalis at 6:52 :P

[@ericcartman65378]

Its not hess its man nmt222

[@Avadea]

@@ericcartman65378 Actually, it's MAN-Kiepe-HESS NMT222

[@ronald5973]

Ronald.Christian

[@QuarioQuario54321]

What’s happened to you doesn’t seem to happen anymore.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Thank you for telling me this. One day I would like to return to Lyon.

[@trainspotting_riviera]

Suddently it sometimes happens in Italy despite there's a law that allows you to take photos at public means of transport. For example in big railway stations the railway Police doesn't allow you to use a camera, so if you want to take photos at trains you better go out of stations or in small stations, where nobody annoys you. Otherwhise there are italian cities where it's allowed to take photos, such as Milan or Naples, and others that aren't nice about photos, for example Genoa or maybe Rome. In Russia in several cities subways you can use only cameras with height, width and depth under 30cm.

[@lyonvibes]

ER100 were lot more stylish and comfortable than these crappy Cristalis

[@stagecoachlondonbusenthusi1291]

maybe that woman wanted tobbe on tv

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

LOL, I think watching paint dry would be more exciting than watching her!

[@stagecoachlondonbusenthusi1291]

+citytransportinfo yh but

[@martinelesueur8633]

Lyon was clearly better before

[@ericcartman65378]

Yeah but in automatic it was smelling pee when he filmed 🤢🤮

[@ericcartman65378]

Now its better metro lines are white with new seats and buses and trolleybuses :)