Do it All Full Size Super Duty Overland Rig | Four Wheel Hawk Camper Build

[@CJCOffRoad]

What’s on this truck: Carli Level Height XHD Pintop Suspension System: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/2023-f250-f350/products/carli-2017-ford-super-duty-pintop-2-5-2-5-lift-suspension-system Options: Carli torsion sway bar Carli high/low steering stabilizer Carli radius arms Carli XHD rear leaf packs/shackles Full Travel Airbags Innov8 G700 18x9 5.5” Backspace Wheels: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/innov8-racing/products/g700-simulated-beadlock-wheel-18x9-0-8-lug Tires: Falken 37/13.5/18 Wildpeak RT Carli Trophy Hitch: www.cjcoffroad.com/products/carli-trophy-hitch?_pos=1&_sid=6fff7425b&_ss=r Factory Aftermarket Light Bar www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/ford-lighting-kits/products/factory-aftermarket-2017-2023-ford-super-duty-light-bar-mount BMC Dual Fog Kit: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/super-duty-lighting-kits/products/2023-ford-super-duty-bmc-dual-fog-light-kit Dirt Church ARB On Board Air Kit: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/on-board-air/products/dirt-church-2023-ford-super-duty-dual-arb-compressor-kit On Board Air Management: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/on-board-air/products/pacbrake-hp10660-wireless-airbag-control-remote Xpel Wrap: americanwrapco.com Four Wheel Hawk Camper: fourwheelcampers.com/model/hawk-model-pop-up-truck-camper-leader-full-size-trucks/

[@brokenwrench404]

4-wheel campers have been around since atleast 1988. My dad had one on a 78 bronco that I drove a to high school a few times my jr and sr years. It was awesome because you could go into the back from the cab like a van motorhome

[@freelyroaming]

Since 1972!

[@CJCOffRoad]

That is awesome! Those Bronco model campers are truly unique.

[@jonathanchouinard582]

Great looking truck! This video is straight up a checklist on how to turn a $100k truck into a $150k one!

[@carguy0389]

Is the suspension really that much?

[@norkisserrano]

With the camper, maybe even more.

[@OhshitPositive]

@@carguy0389 The suspension alone is over $7,000 easily. Then there's labor to install it. The four wheels are $4400, another $1100 for the full sized spare. Those five tires are $2750. So we're already at $15,250 before labor. That's just in the wheels/suspension/tires. Also, I didn't look into the air bags or leaf spring replacement. Figure a few thousand for all that. The light bar up front is $3200. The fog lights are another $1400. We're now at $19850 The Xpel wrap is likely to be about $3000. For reference, just the door cup guards ALONE are $11 a piece. He did his entire, massive, truck done. The trailer hitch is $3300. The fuel tank is $1300. The interior stuff is probably around $1250 So, again, before labor is factored in, you're looking at $28,700 in upgrades. Labor is going to add thousands more to that. And then the camper STARTS at $30,000.

[@carguy0389]

@@OhshitPositive that’s insane man. I’d never spend that much on a normal truck build but it sure does look sweet!

[@malimish]

There are so many new pop up camper companies that have "popped up" since COVID. Not all will survive now demand has slowed. In my opinion, FWC will be one of the few left standing when dust settles. The people there at Woodland are doing amazing work and some of the best in the business. Glad to see your video on this. We've had a Grandby slide in on a super duty back in 2015. Looking at a flat bed soon on another Ford. Been looking at suspension choice for the build and this was a great view into how you chose to set this up. Great looking setup and the capabilities look amazing.

[@CJCOffRoad]

We're thrilled with the setup! Hopefully this helps someone looking to do something similar.

[@MrChadx1]

Many great brands out there. Great time to shop for slide-in pickup campers. FWC is well established and have finally modernized a bit to keep up with the competition. Overland Explorer Vehicles (OEV) brand, out of Canada, makes composite campers that are very robust and better insulated (avoids condensation issues of the FWC). Supertramp Campers is another great brand made in Golden, CO. We've owned all three, in that order, and each has been an upgrade over the previous. Great having so many great choices.

[@cathywills9194]

Glad you got the new heater. The Dometic has given us lots of trouble in elevation. Also the fridge just pooped out too. Hope your stuff serves you well! 😊

[@07G56]

Amazing rig and build. Can’t imagine the cost. I’d have to sell every vehicle I own to cover that. Those new fords sure look sharp.

[@FourWheelCampers]

Incredible build Cody! Enjoy the hunting adventures :)

[@warrenhunts]

Nice Wirehair!

[@Invertmini1212]

The Prospector Dodge is my dream truck to build something like this but this truck model is a beast also, it being a Tremor is 👌

[@dtadventure4x4]

Great build. That's kinda how I started, but with a Supertramp camper. My new build will have the Carli Pintop with the XXHD leafs. I'll keep the Carli torsion sway open as an option, but want to see first how the rig drives once my Rossmonster Baja is installed. Again, great build and a good approach with testing the suspension ....

[@CJCOffRoad]

It sounds like you are going from one extreme build to another! Congrats!

[@CJCOffRoad]

The combo of the HD tuned shocks with the softer sway bar is incredible. We highly recommend it over the typical path of using a stiffer sway bar.

[@dathat555]

@dtadventure4x4 - I follow your channel and am looking forward to seeing your setup after the Baja is installed.

[@scojosmac]

What a truck and setup! I have a 22 F250 Tremor with the 7.3 with a popup topper ( competitor to FWC PM ) Love it! I need help dialing in my suspension. Called in a couple weeks ago for help picking / ordering and the dude on the phone wanted nothing to do with helping me, sadly.

[@CJCOffRoad]

Can you email us at [e-mail]? That's obviously not what we want to hear so we'd love to know who you spoke with, and help with your setup.

[@trevorfosterconstruction]

Sweet build Cody! Now you got me thinking about dropping a camper on the SCAB and having you guys swap out a few things on the rig! Love the in-depth video as always brother.

[@spartanoverlanding300]

Thank you for the video. I have a few parts and a wish to chisel through Great build

[@mike1878]

Great video and products. I work for the FWC at our factory.

[@TroyErwin]

Looking forward to a few more CJC upgrades! Keep us posted.

[@sthcstog]

Such a rad rig. So capable and all the comforts you need.

[@fscottgray9784]

A great build for sure. Love the wheels on this truck.

[@AmericanWrapCompany]

Great video as always! Amazing to see that truck totally done now. Thanks for the shout out Cody!

[@CJCOffRoad]

Looks a little different than when you saw it! Thanks again for doing such an incredible job on it.

[@jdmfh47]

Sick setup. gorgeous truck. Im guessing close to 200k

[@TahoeDogProductions]

Great video! I’m about to sell my F-150 and Raven slide in camper. I’m planning on a used F-250 XLT to save money, so I can spend more $ for a Hawk and your suspension system. Perfect timing. Thank you!

[@smitty_schmitz]

Wow wow wow…. Just when I feel like I’m ready to dive down the Sprinter, or built RV path, I’m pulled back to my truck roots. Thank you for the extensive about of information and taking the time to do get all this info on both the truck components and your personal 4WD Campers set up. Look forward to more videos as usual!

[@CJCOffRoad]

No problem! Our whole goal with this video was to do a deep dive into setting up one of these HD trucks with a camper the right way.

[@TsavoTouring]

We’ve spent a lot of time in both a sprinter (170 4x4) and traveled for almost two years in a F350’with a flatbed Hawk (four wheel camper). Both definitely have pros and cons. Right now we’re in South America in a gladiator 😅 so that’s a whole separate category to explore.

[@smitty_schmitz]

⁠​⁠@@TsavoTouringawesome to hear your input. The truck makes more sense to use under a business perspective, ultimately that’s what will probably sway the decision one way or the other. Funny part is a gladiator diesel was a pick also, but the sprinter RV and 3/4 to 1 ton trucks make the most sense.

[@Bingwadc]

Beautiful Rig

[@margehernandez9902]

Beautiful! We drive a 2021 F350 6.7 Diesel & our first thought was it’s one ton truck it can carry anything (not true) BUT we have a Carli Pintop kit that we purchased from CJC in addition ended up adding; Deaver Custom Leaf Pack, Hellwig Swaybar, Carli Front Torsion Swaybar, Air bags with Daystar cradle, Custom Overload Spring Bump stop and Method Heavy duty wheels. So much to think about when carrying a slide in camper which weighs 2340 lbs.

[@CJCOffRoad]

Oh yeah! There's definitely a lot to consider when adding that much weight. Our goal with this video was to explain all of that as best as possible for people looking to build something similar.

[@stanglover28966]

Dream rig

[@crystaltoledo748]

Beautiful rig and camper great job bro!

[@nmfirelover]

Would love to see this with the tundra

[@leroymoore76]

very nice truck. all the cool stuff. you have a great over all truck.

[@TW-pq3hn]

Absolutely great video. Keep up the good work!!!

[@jeffhorn8288]

Wow we have the same dream

[@jasonpitts8395]

That is an amazing build. I need that spare tire carrier, but it isn't made for a RAM.

[@philipjcaputo]

**edit - there are two nearly identical looking ports, one for external show, one for external propane. I was confused when I posted the following comment. I have pretty much the same Hawk in the '21 model year. The port you showed is an external show port and not an external propane port. I carry an extra propane hose that I connect to one of the extra bottles in the propane locker for the outside stove. External shower is really nice for rinsing sand & dirt off kids after a day outdoors.

[@CJCOffRoad]

The port on the driver's side of the truck is the shower port. The port on the rear of the truck shown in the video is in fact the external propane! A very simple, but handy feature.

[@philipjcaputo]

@@CJCOffRoad Thanks for clarifying! It looks shockingly identical to the external shower port!

[@GarzaDiesel]

Beautiful build!

[@JoshuaBrinks]

This build is incredible. I've loved watching ya'lls evolvement and advancement over the last 5 or 6 years I've been following. Would you guys be willing to compare your suspension systems to the liquid springs? I see they now offer a version for the 250/350 and it would be interesting since a top of the line Carli system would be similar to the cost of the Liquid springs.

[@CJCOffRoad]

We actually discussed that exact topic in this video! The Liquid spring setup is fantastic for trucks doing long haul on road towing etc, but in terms of real off road usage with trips to remote Baja, the using a traditional spring and shock is going to offer more capability, durability, ease or service. They each have their place in the market!

[@JoshuaBrinks]

@@CJCOffRoad I should probably pay better attention! 😂you guys are awesome and thank you so much for all you put out into the market and world.

[@barsandrunning]

Lol stock f150 with hawk model fully loaded and rubber spacer in rear.. rides and drives great .. but dont do hardcore 4x4 but ive done some steep 4x4.. stuff once while.. next truck 350 stock with flat deck with custom boxes on side alot money 💰 but yeah as long get out there at end if day.. toe 14ft boat .. just send it

[@greedyg76]

Awesome build! Were you able to get the backup cam interfaced with the factory camera system? I'm seriously considering a Hawk camper for my '24 RAM 2500 PXL but the tailgate has so much tech build in.

[@CJCOffRoad]

Yep! We just 3d printed a bracket to relocate the stock camera, so the truck works perfectly.

[@georgiafan6618]

Love the color of the truck. Wow stock tremor was not good with the weight. I’m surprised. Can’t believe the incredible articulation in that Carli setup. I like that the truck isn’t too high up there. Wheels/tires looks perfect - don’t stick out too far, no rubbing. Love that F250. I need air bags for my leveled/lowered truck. Will these work? Good video! 👍

[@CJCOffRoad]

These airbags are specifically designed for either stock or Carli rear leaf packs, so just make sure what option you get aligns with your long term goals. That said, the stock Tremor suspension is definitely nothing special. There's so much more potential for these trucks.

[@garrettforster7155]

Can you guys do a semi budget build for someone who tows a 5th wheel but also likes to do mild off-roading. I’m not looking for any lift but definitely a suspension upgrade

[@CJCOffRoad]

We absolutely can, but there will be some minimal height increase involved. It's an important part of improving ride, since height increase is the only way to add upward suspension travel from ride height on a solid axle truck. Just shoot us an email! [e-mail]

[@marioreno2466]

How does the truck perform with those XHD springs without the camper installed. Im trying to decide between the XHD and normal springs with airbags. My camper is 1750 dry but it is not mounted all the time. Or would the better option be normal springs with long travel airbags if 50 percent mounted camper while occasionally towing with camper mounted?

[@CJCOffRoad]

It's stiff and rear high without the camper on, but the decision should be based on how much time the camper spends installed as there's really no way to make the truck handle 100% in both situations with thousands of pounds of weight difference. If you go with stock leaf packs and bags the truck will handle okay empty, but less planted and stable loaded. If you're split 50/50 though that would probably be the best route.

[@silversnake101]

Does the 360 degree camera system on the truck still work with the tailgate removed?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Yes, since we 3d printed a bracket to re-locate rear camera to over the license plate.

[@Jack-xd9og]

I have a 23 Tremor and I can't decide what lift height would be best, the 2.5 system on 37s or the 4.5 on 38s. My main concern is what would offer the most capability off-road for a similar build. I was wondering if you could speak on that. I am coming from a built out 4Runner which could basically go anywhere so I am looking to replicate something similar in its capability. Thank you.

[@TheCluelessReefer]

Also, please build a CJC front skid plate so us Tremor owners stop having FOMO from Raptors and even Timberline Expeditions! Has to look nice though!!

[@CJCOffRoad]

We actually looked at it, but there's really no good way to make one that isn't prohibitively expensive sadly.

[@TheSavanto]

With the xhd springs and the Carli level kit would there be a 1” rake or how would that look loaded with the trailer?

[@CJCOffRoad]

The XHD springs are only for constant load like a camper. If you tow, you'll use the full travel bags and normal Carli rear leaf packs.

[@TahoeDogProductions]

How’s the PPF holding up for pinstripes? I got my 2024Tremor XLT and deciding on it now for my trail camping.

[@CJCOffRoad]

It's incredible. If you plan to really use the truck off road go with the 10mm thick Xpel film for the most protection.

[@ZacFiscus]

What’s that color on the innov8s?

[@jaywales]

Nice truck, I’ve a hawk in a f150. But I’d like to step up to a f250 or 350. Could you list the lights and sway bars models please?

[@Rhinopkc]

It’s in the pinned comment

[@CJCOffRoad]

Absolutely! We have links to all those items in the pinned comment above ^^

[@brianrick5509]

Fantastic video! I’m running an older FWC Grandby-stock springs and backcountry shocks. You might have just sold me on a XHD/pintop upgrade. Is that camper bolted to the bed or held on with turnbuckles?

[@CJCOffRoad]

The camper is secured with turnbuckles and has not had any issues coming loose!

[@ktheodore4012]

Great build! We currently have a 2023 short bed F350 that we use for our Northern Lite 8-11. However, removing the tailgate on these beasts is a PIA. Could that Hawk be pushed forward enough to allow the tailgate to stay on and be used as a “patio” when folded down for access to the camper door etc? If so, I would consider moving over to the FWC Hawk.

[@CJCOffRoad]

In theory you could probably cut the camper's front bumpers down a little to shift it forward enough to close the tailgate. However to get in and out of the camper you would basically have to slide on your butt. Personally I was tempted to look at the Grandby model (8' bed) and let it rest on the tailgate partially. At the end of the day it seemed best to configure it how Four Wheel Campers intended!

[@MrChadx1]

Main issue with keeping the tailgate on is it makes ducking under the short door harder. If you use a step stool to get in and out, you are naturally stepping up and through the door as you step up and when you step out, you step down to the step stool step. Having a tailgate means you are stepping in and out at nearly the same level as the camper floor and it is very awkward. I recommend removing the tailgate when the camper is on. These trucks handle the weight easily so if you are using the camper enough, leaving it on fulltime during your camping season is an option, unless you regularly need the bed, but we use trailers instead of the bed of the truck most of the time whether camper is on or off).

[@ktheodore4012]

@@MrChadx1 Thank you for the input. It’s not just a camper access issue as removal of the Tailgates on these new Fords also “bricks” the entire camera system, not just the removed cameras. I have already had to purchase a supplementary camera to trick the system into functioning. Will just keep on considering my camper options or dealing with the inconvenience.

[@JustinDucharme]

Have the same setup, 23 F250 Tremor with FWC Hawk. My bumpers are cut down to about 2” and the tailgate will not close so it has to be removed.

[@josephremenar3117]

What would the equivalent build and cost be for a 2021 Ram 3500 HO diesel w/8’ bed and Firestone airbags. Thank you.

[@CJCOffRoad]

Shoot us an email to [e-mail] so we can help. Obviously there's a lot more details than we can list here to give you a price, but this video is a great walk through of this style build on a Ram: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYHSo2Cqpdlsgsk

[@realistic.optimist]

Trying to decide between a Tremor or a FX4 with aftermarket ARB air lockers.

[@CJCOffRoad]

To be totally candid, an OEM locker is always going to work better. That's one of the main reasons we went with the Tremor package!

[@realistic.optimist]

@@CJCOffRoad Problem is the Tremor is not available if I get a long bed.

[@TheCluelessReefer]

Regarding your extended range tank, it looks like you might still have the OEM skid plate, but you did some kind of bracket to extend it down?

[@CJCOffRoad]

The S&B kit makes it all direct bolt on

[@Brucemus18]

Are those factory running boards? If so what did you use to black out the chrome strip

[@CJCOffRoad]

They are! American Wrap used Xpel black film to eliminate the chrome when the Xpel clear wrapped the truck.

[@Sdukes001]

Awesome build are they going to come out with a full travel air bag for ram 3500 like they have for the ram 2500?

[@CJCOffRoad]

They are! It's in the works.

[@kaseykinkade5925]

Sweet set up! Does your xm radio still work with the camper on?

[@CJCOffRoad]

It does!

[@realistic.optimist]

What site were you at? Looks like a blast!

[@CJCOffRoad]

We shot most of this in Gorman OHV park. It's got a ton of great test tracks to play around on.

[@gramirez7736]

Love all your builds? Do you guys ever plan on working or offering suspension kits for F150's?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Not at this time as our niche is the HD truck market.

[@gramirez7736]

@@CJCOffRoad Thanks. Appreciate the response.

[@unknown_truckers]

Literally only thing holding back the Ram is the spare tire size, we need an option for a 38 inch tire and hitch replacement

[@CJCOffRoad]

Agreed! Sadly that's limited by the rear track bar on the 2500s, and the frame width on both trucks.

[@jordanatwell29]

What running boards are your running? Those aren’t the ford factory electric running boards are they?

[@CJCOffRoad]

They are! We just had @americanwrapco remove the chrome.

[@JustQuattro]

What is the finish on the G700 Wheel? Is that Gray or Machined?

[@CJCOffRoad]

This is anodized grey

[@JustQuattro]

@@CJCOffRoad thank you! I’m ordering them from Allout off-road in Houston! They’re calling you guys right now! Give them a good deal please lol

[@realistic.optimist]

Will the hitch work with a hitch extender like the super hitch?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Absolutely

[@mrd1298]

Who's is going to do your head lights. I have a 2024 and want get mine done.

[@CJCOffRoad]

We had them done by Retroshop: retroshop.us/

[@MrBigJTrucker]

And here I am sitting wondering what this setup would cost to have installed on my 2020 F250 CCSB XLT 7.3 gas.. "If you have to ask you can't afford it" probably...

[@CJCOffRoad]

We have all the suspension pricing on our website actually. Just click the links in the pinned comment.

[@navseal345]

👌

[@matthewschiebout7384]

Cody should have spent more time researching his tire/wheel combo. 20"X10" rims with 13.5" wide tires is the obvious choice for his usage needs...and based on his significant complaints with stability! Running those 18"x9"'s favors extensive off-road use, which he simply just doesn't do. Plus there are significantly more tires to choose from in the 20" size!

[@CJCOffRoad]

There's actually no added stability with a 10" wide wheel, so the only thing 20x10 wheels would achieve is worse tire fitment with more rubbing, and less sidewall compliance for worse off road capability and ride. This wheel and tire combo was carefully selected to offer the best load range, ride quality, and all around driving possible.

[@jmrdrgz]

Honest question. If you are going to change all the suspension/leafs, etc, why not just buy a more basic 4x4 and save that money for the modifications? Would you not end up with the same truck?

[@CJCOffRoad]

The Tremor package comes with a limited slip front differential, more favorable gearing for larger tires, drive modes, more water proof electronics, and stock parts that are worth more. It made sense to us for those reasons, but everyone's different so there's no harm in starting with a base package XL 4wd truck and then upgrading the suspension. It all just comes down to your end goals.

[@matthewtrigg286]

Whats the offset on those innov8’s?

[@CJCOffRoad]

These are 5.5" backspace and +12 offset.

[@joesmith-m9l]

Does anyone do this with a 8’ bed?

[@CJCOffRoad]

We almost did, but decided we preferred the shorter wheelbase for better maneuverability.

[@joesmith-m9l]

@@CJCOffRoad four wheel camper is coming out with one

[@raulgallardo5140]

Why are the Innov8 wheels so expensive?

[@CornFed_3]

Because they’re quality.

[@Sdukes001]

They are forged American quality wheels.

[@CJCOffRoad]

You'd be amazed how little margin there is too. It's just extremely expensive to make a wheel at that quality level with all custom ordered features and colors. They aren't for everyone and we totally understand that, but they are a very cool wheel.

[@TakeThePTO]

Need a Power Wagon with the GFC vs this video!

[@danielosmon]

Is that a wire haired pointer.

[@CJCOffRoad]

Technically she is a Drahthaar!

[@realistic.optimist]

Generator?

[@CJCOffRoad]

No need with solar.

[@mattprince6858]

Why did you pick the ford, over the others? Thanks

[@DanTourino]

He answers this in the video…

[@dezmod1644]

How about at a 3000 pound camper

[@CJCOffRoad]

We have the XXHD leaf pack and shock tune setup for about 3,500 pounds of constant load.

[@mrjlee4294]

Nice truck hate that ugly camper though.