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[@kfl611]

I think the little tab is like the little tab on an old diskette - it's a write protect tab to prevent you from accidentally formatting the card or over writing something you wanted to keep. I think it is a good idea to have it. If you mistakenly over write irreplaceable data, you will sure have wished you had the little tab.

[@Rafaga777]

Thanks for the comparison/advice. Much appreciated...Maybe one remark about formatting: when formatting a sd card it will delete everything including your protected photos while the command erasing keeps your protected photos intact (at least on the Olympus OMD 1 Mark II).

[@rickbear7249]

Actually, formatting only deletes the index which tells the software where the files have been stored. It doesn't delete the files themselves. Similarly, if you delete a file, it simply removes that file's entry in the index. These files are still there until the next time the software decides to write a file to that sector. Then it gets overwritten. Now, you may recall my saying that constantly writing to the same sector might be a bad thing? Well, in theory at least, which sectors the software decides to write to is random. But, as you may know, software isn't very good at random, so files do have a tendency to be written to certain sectors more than others, unless you fill up the entire storage. There is one flaw to my advice. The index sector itself is constantly overwritten. The index is the weakpoint of any media device. But, fortunately, as it's the index that usually fails first, and you'll recall that images remain after so-called deleting or formatting, it is usually possible to recover many of the images on a failed data card. You just need the right software on your PC, together with the knowledge of how to use it. As such, I may be being over-cautious, but it is a heart-wrenching pain having to recover data and not knowing how much you'll manage to recover. It's always that really important shot that is irrecoverable. It's those Nordic Gremlins, eh Peter? Rick

[@rickbear7249]

Peter, Yet another highly pertinent video. One point I will make is that ALL memory devices have a finite number or read/write operations before they fail. It is mostly the write operation that ends the life of a card. As such, reusing a card over-and-over is high risk. Many professional photographers prefer to use a card only once. This affects your choice of card based upon relatively low MB, good quality from a trusted brand, and a write speed that matches the camera's own write speed capability for still or video work. Very high speed and very high capacity cards have always been said to be less reliable than having many lower capacity and lower write speed cards that you replace on a regular basis. One further point. If you're using a high capacity card, Do NOT delete images nor reformat the card until it is almost full. If you do, then you increase the probability of the same card sectors being reused over-and-over which means you're stressing those sectors more than if you let the software write to each and every sector before deleting or reformatting. You'd be massively reducing the working life of your card if you routinely delete images or reformat the card until it is full. Finally, Peter says "always format you memory card in your camera ... because this will keep it fresh". That is true in so much as a full format of the card will also include the software checking for, and marking, bad sectors not to be used. Which, if the available memory shows a decline over time, is a good indicator that the card should be discarded. However, do take note of my earlier comment about not formatting too often, else the same sectors are likely to be over used while other sectors are never used. Only format a card, particularly a large capacity card, when it no longer has sufficient space for your intended shoot. It is important we take note of how much our cards are used and to replace them regularly. Rick

[@LouisDallara]

Show some data to support these claims please. I have used cards for many years and never saw any problems, and deleted before they were full. Shooting cards full is more likely to cause corruption. Your post sounds like market FUD to sell cards.

[@rickbear7249]

@@LouisDallara I'm not saying you will get immediate failures if you delete or format too often. What I'm saying is that you will be stressing the weakest link in the chain. I am an international consultant in the R&D sector of the computer industry, as well as a professional photographer of 40+ years experience. These days, we see far fewer media failures than we used to. However, the same fact applies. The more that a sector is written to, the more likelihood it will fail. So, as it isn't a problem to only re-format when you need to -- as versus habitually formatting on a regular basis -- then you're protecting yourself without any penalty. Research data. I've learnt this stuff through experience and over many many years. I'm sure you'll find reports if you Google long enough. But my advice is not to format too often and never delete images, just format when your card no longer has enough storage for your intended shoot. You can take or leave this advice as you please. Rick

[@LouisDallara]

@@rickbear7249 WOW photographer of 40+ years experience, you probably shot film too. lol As for me I'm a design engineer with 40 yrs, and 15 years as a profession photographer. I've seem more failures on external drives than cards. The files have always been recoverable with the right programs.

[@rickbear7249]

@@LouisDallara Yes, those solid technology cards are pretty robust. All the more reason not to become complacent. Image explaining to your mate's daughter and the mother of the bride that "these things happen" 🤣. Yup, 10x8 film was my favourite. Yet, we did sometimes get "technical failure" with that stuff too. I'd be most interested to read any up-to-date scientific data on card failure, but as the lower-to-medium capacity cards are cheap enough to discard, I do that and avoid buying the newest super-fast super-capacity cards. And, of course, I only format when I need to. I may be being over-cautious, but I don't want to risk losing something important for a few £s worth of data card. Rick

[@LouisDallara]

@@rickbear7249 Funny Rick, I just Googled you and you don't exist lmao

[@punknugget561]

Thanks for the tip toward the end of your vid about formatting your card in the camera only and not to delete the images on your card reader on the PC or Mac. Learn something new every day. Again, thanks.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@chosenideahandle]

Terve. I like your channel Peter!

[@ForsgardPeter]

Cool, thanks!

[@tomhughes5123]

i have a d850 and used sandisk ..i was under the impression all the tech in the d850 slowed editing and thats the price you payed. then i filled it ..and spotted a green kingston card id stashed in my bag .. wow and i mean wow .. my camera has never performed as fast .. it MUST have been the card i had in previously .. i cant believe a card has been responsible for me doubting a £2000 camera ,, crazy .

[@tomhughes5123]

one of the few cards iv never had issues with , totally reccomend kingstone canvas react , sped up my d850 awesome. 10/10

[@tomhughes5123]

aparently according to a photographer friend he has never had issues with kingston cards . thinking about what he said , iv been let down by lexar and samdisk, in the past so thanks Mike for the test card .

[@robert-peterwestphal1064]

Dear Peter, please come or take a look at the Sony tough SD cards. They read and write it almost 300 MB per second, but they don’t have the switch at the left side and their housing is made of one very sturdy part which prevents the cat from breaking into several parts. unfortunately, the price is around €120 for 64 GB which in my opinion is pretty high, but it is worth the quality they deliver !!! in my opinion it is almost impossible to destroy such a card mechanically, or my putting into water due to the water resistance of the one part housing. Best wishes Robert

[@ForsgardPeter]

Yes I have seen them and removing the lock slider is a wise thing.

[@pma177]

@@ForsgardPeter It is, but if you remove the slider from any card it won't allow you to record, so don't try that!

[@AkaiMiso]

Any update regarding this card Peter?

[@parratt-world]

Kiitos Peter erittäin informatiivinen, kuten aina.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Kiitos.

[@tomhughes5123]

when i switched from DX to FX , I put my previous dx vard in my d850 . not realising the card wasnt suitable i went to photograph deer , and because of the 50mp file sizes the camera was lagging . i thought the camera was at fault , this was supposed to be a fast focusing fast shooting tool . i was a bit surprised dissapointed .. my buddy had put an sd card in the box i hadnt even looked for . when i got back i spoke to him , TRY THE CARD IN THE BOX he said .. i was immediately surprised . they DO make a huge difference i didnt know cards made that much of a difference , surprised me , i have to buy my own gear i dont get back handers for touting equipment , only photos .,

[@Photo-Design-Studio]

I have just ordered 2 of those memory cards, a great lesson thank you.

[@louismanna5147]

Thanks you for this. I also like smaller cards, however, it seems that the "sweet spot" of pricing has been about 64gb. I'll pay the same for a 16gb as 64gb and the 64gb has faster write, etc. (This was a while ago when I was comparing prices, but I don't think it has changed much.) So why get the 16gb when the 64gb costs about the same and has more features. In traveling, I've found the best thing for me to do is download a day's shooting (or subject) onto smaller thumb drives in different folders. I don't like 64gb (or half that) of photos altogether.

[@michaelkettleson7317]

If the 64gb cards are the same price as a 16gb card, just buy the same number of larger cards and you can change then with the same frequency as the smaller cards, after a similar number of shots you don't have to fill them, download the same number of images to your thumb drive each day. You then get any benefits of faster cards

[@joewilde.]

So have you used Kingston memory cards before? Didn't get that from the video.

[@ForsgardPeter]

I have used. I also use Sandisk and lexar.

[@StalwartMan]

Thanks

[@ginovairo6487]

Nice test photographing the clock Peter! I recall when I got my OMD EM1 m2 that Olympus we’re recommending the Lexar UHS class II 2000x cards for the compatible slot. I have been using the same Lexar class II cards for 3 years now without issue. But that was before the brand was sold to a different manufacturer.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Lexar cards are very good. I only had problems with Lexar 128GB 1000X gards, but it had some firmware issues and I got a new one. The new one has worked perfectly.

[@dano5378]

Peter your English is improving 👍

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks you. Practise at least twice a week!

[@vancouverphotographer]

Great video Peter. After watching it, I purchased the Kingston v90 128GB SD card for my A7III. When comparing with my Lexar v60 1000x SD card, I don’t see much difference in camera. In fact, I actually got more burst shots with the Lexar in one of my test. I also used Blackmagic Disk Speed Test on my M1 MacBook Pro to test both the cards. I got W60/R151 on the Lexar which is pretty close to their advertised speed of W75/R150. However, the Kingston only got W173/R162, which is no where close to the W260/R300 advertised. I then tested both cards on a PC using CrystalMark8.0 using SEQ1M Q8T1 and the results were W84/R158 on the Lexar (again matching closely to the advertised speed) and I got W198/R267 on the Kingston. Did I purchase a faulty/fake card?

[@ForsgardPeter]

Sorry to hear that. It is hard to say. My cards are fast enough and live up to the expectations. Maybe you should contact Kingston?

[@pma177]

Thanks Peter, I hadn't heard of these, so will investigate. If I may offer a tip for readers, it is to test any card which you buy, regardless of source. I use CrystalDiskMark, a free benchmark software, to do this. I bought SanDisk cards from Amazon and found with the benchmark that they do not meet the manufacturers claimed speeds, so sent them back and got a refund. Amazon wouldn't let me post my review in which I described the problem, saying that I hadn't bought the card (technically true!). I test the whole chain of card, reader, computer storage, so I know where the bottlenecks are and can eliminate them to get maximum speed. This is really important if you do any ProCapture or multi-frame type shooting. My computer has dual NVMe 1Gb storage, 1 for the operating system/photo management software and the second one is the store for my photos. I also have a 1 Tb long term store for photos that I access less often - mainly those I took more than 1 year ago. On top of all that, I have 2 x 4Tb Hard Disks operating as a 4Tb RAID 1 backup. This is then sequentially backed up to a remote NAS. You will probably realise that I take storage seriously. What can be worse than losing all one's years' of work? In that context, losing a few images from a card is a shame, but hardly tragic! Have you ever done a video on your workflow, through to final archive? There are a couple out around, but I didn't see any from you. Thanks for all your wisdom.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks for the tip about the benchmark software. I will check it out. I could do a video about my workflow. That could be something that we all have time to think about right now.

[@Bassbarbie]

I have an SD card that I am unable to use in the top slot on my EM1ii because that protect bit gets knocked every time I insert it. It's very annoying as it is my fastest card. It's okay in the lower (and I believe slower ) slot. I wish they'd do away with that bit of flimsy plastic too.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Sorry to hear that. Have tried to check what causes the problem? Is there something inside the slot that does that?

[@thommyers3983]

Great information Peter

[@ForsgardPeter]

Thanks.

[@donalddmello2836]

I have a small question, can I install Windows on these memory cards by using WinToUSB software? Thanks

[@ForsgardPeter]

I do not know about that. Sorry that I cannot help.

[@Forthejoyofphotography]

Remember these are UHS-II class cards. This means you will NOT benefit from the extra fast speed in any other Olympus camera other than the EM1 MKII/II & X. Only these have a UHS-II card slot. Other Olympus cameras have a UHS-I class slot.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Very good point.

[@ForsgardPeter]

The E-M1 has a UHS-I card slot so any known brand name, like Lexar, Sandisk, Kingston cards ok. The capacity something that you need, a 64GB is good or get two 32GB cards.

[@michaelhawkins1173]

Hi Peter thank you for your video. In regard to deleting images useing the camera delete button and formate. Have you encountered problems? and what do you do to protect the card? As to delete images sounds problematic. Thanks again

[@ForsgardPeter]

I have never really deleted images in camera. Formatting is part of the best practise and something that I have learned over the years.

[@michaelhawkins1173]

@@ForsgardPeter Now I know. We'll done and thank you. Perhaps a video on "Camera/Lens Best Practice" at some time. Thank you again Peter.

[@photohounds]

Lexar also have 250 mbs cards at good prices.

[@Jin-Ro]

I only buy Kingston cards. As far as I know, they're the only manufacturer that sells directly to the public. With Amazon, eBay, and other outlets awash with fake cards, I'd rather buy straight from the factory.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Good point.

[@jconeto]

You should java compared with yh Lexar 2000 uhs ii

[@ForsgardPeter]

I know that it would have been an other good test. Unfortunately I do not have any 2000x Lexars. The test here was just to test if it is a lot faster that 1000X/150MBs Lexar cards. It proved to be.

[@jconeto]

@@ForsgardPeter I know there are so Manu different cards

[@hedydd2]

What is your view on using fast micro-sd cards in their adapters? Do the adapters slow them down at all? I've yet to see a micro-sd adapter with the second row of pins for U3 speeds of course and they might not exist yet. If they do, I am a fan of micro-sd, because they are plenty big enough physically when in their adapters and they are more robust than most full size cards and also lack that copy protect switch.

[@rickbear7249]

Tests on Micro-SD cards in adapters vs standard size SD-cards show there is minuscule attenuation of the electrical signal between the adapter and the Micro-SD card. However, as the physical process of writing to the card takes considerably more time than any signal attenuation would ever reduce, it appears there is no real difference. That said, manufacturing Micro-SD cards *used to have* a have a higher failure rate. Then again, it's quite likely that the actual circuitry (if I may use that term to describe the physical memory device part of the cards) is identical in today's Micro and Standard SD cards. Peter or anyone, do you know of any Resilience testing of today's Micro and Standard SD cards? I notice that most manufacturers are ending manufacture of Standard SD cards, so they're obviously confident that the Micro-SD card in an adapter is up to the job. And, don't forget, smartphones use Micro-SD card technology, with much higher read/write stress than we're likely to encounter in our Olympus cameras. Rick

[@ForsgardPeter]

I have not tested the MicroSD card with an adapter. The adapter that came with the MicroSC card is UHS-I. The microSD is UHS-II.

[@rickbear7249]

*Survey of SD-Card failures*. As people have responded to my comments on SD-Card preventative maintenance, especially questioning my caution. Yes, I know that most of you may never have experienced a card failure, but here is a link to a survey that you should watch and consider: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6LSXoCqg95lhtU. Rick

[@mondotv4216]

Why do Kingston do such an awful job on the printing of the label. It makes the card look cheap. And if you hate the record lockout look at Angelbird - they got rid of it altogether and so did Sony.

[@ForsgardPeter]

Have no idea why the printing is so poor. Yes, I know that Sony has some very durable SD-cards. That is a wise thing to do.