Class 91 arrives at Bo'ness 4K

[@rorymacve]

I hope for the preserved units they put at least one back into GNER blue and orange, with silver lettering as well for a nice bit of novelty! ;D

[@TrainspotterBarn2984]

Yeah that would be amazing actually

[@CoastToCoast_Trains]

Hello Ruairidh I absolutely love your videos and its nice to see you enjoying videos like these too ha, keep up the good work and I too would love to see one ine GNER haha!

[@FranzTraininand]

Gner has always been my favourite mainline

[@joelwatkins]

one of my favourite livieries

[@SuperYoshi411]

That'd be nice

[@squaresphere2864]

Good news she has been preserved unlike quite a few of her sisters. Sadly just as a static exhibit. I got to drive the entire class ,thousands of miles on each one. My records indicate I last got to drive 131 to Edinburgh in Spring 2020.

[@BONESS27001]

Our museum curator at SRPS would be grateful for any details of this loco. contact at: [e-mail] Thanks for your comments

[@simongurden9848]

Always wanted to see one driving slab first. Did you ever do that?

[@nickedwards2904]

@@simongurden9848 yes they did , i think one did it on the last 25 railtour at Leeds, check youtube

[@Hitchers55]

Saw 131 on the trailer at Doncaster as we passed Wednesday 8th

[@Auraxium]

Bring a USB power bank to the museum and see if you can get her to move :D

[@Nate0493]

Glad to see these being preserved! Will miss them on the mainline though!

[@bfapple]

Enjoy the last few while you can.

[@johnledingham852]

My wife would have got the locomotive through that gate. You might have to replace the fence and gate, but she's an experienced driver and VERY determined!

[@kevfrombutterley]

😂

[@maestromecanico597]

I’m just having a hard time accepting a Class 91 as a museum piece.

[@Craig_Franklin]

I know what you mean, I remember the swallow livery, and on the back of 125 HST sets while waiting for the new coaching stock

[@BONESS27001]

Me to. Thanks for your comment.

[@bfapple]

If it helps, there’s still some in service.

[@typhoon-7]

Me too. I was technical manager for this fleet at Bounds Green. The amount of work we did to keep them going.... And here they end up. God I feel old.

[@stephensmith4480]

@@typhoon-7 I only ever went to Bounds Green once Mike. We drove down from Wigan to fit a Wheel skate on a DMU. Unfortunately it was under the Wires and they couldn`t give us an isolation of the overheads and they couldn`t move the unit because of Transmission problems, we drove all the way back to Wigan without so much as getting a Jack out. Such is life 👍

[@davidwilliams5942]

The last loco built at the great Crewe works I remember working on their construction in the early 90s

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks for commenting David.

[@peterharrison966]

Me too, I Remember you I Think David, Wrexham fan? Hope You’re well. I’m George from Chester If you Remember? We are getting on a bit😂

[@BIGV710]

another saved from the scrap man well done boness great locos

[@BONESS27001]

The Bo'ness museum team were responsible for this. Thanks for commenting Vernon.

[@axa2wa]

I was really looking forward to seeing what kind of magic was required to get it from the lorry onto the track.... Perhaps an episode of Monster Moves will reveal all!

[@BONESS27001]

The lorry crew departed the site for dinner after they arrived with the loco.It was very cold so I also departed and picked up the move the following morning. Thanks for your comments.

[@OJHussick]

Absolutely could not believe that jump cut! Nearly threw the remote through the TV! Livid! 🤣

[@BONESS27001]

@@OJHussick very sorry.

[@Class777]

This is epic! Will have to visit when I’m in the area! Cheers.

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks for your comment.

[@thetechnocrat4979]

They looked great in that BR Intercity livery.

[@BONESS27001]

That's also my favourite. Thanks for your comment.

[@dgattenb]

i love the little shunner hauling the 91 to bed ... sweet

[@BONESS27001]

Its a Ruston 165 that we call "Tinkerbell" due to the bell ringing when it moves. Thanks for your comment David.

[@mrlotusmic]

I was watching a TV program last week delivering another loco here and they were having the same problem getting it through that entrance. I’d get the fencer back and make that entrance easier 😁

[@carlgauntletttrains3026]

Hi guys, I think the class 91 is the nicest looking of all the electrics. All the best. Carl.

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks for your comments Carl.

[@machosker]

Nice to see it saved, I wonder if it will LSL will come knocking in future to ask if they can use the loco on "Heritage" railtours.

[@terrier_productions]

This 91 is to be a static exhibit in the Scottish Railway Museum. The 225 Group are aiming to preserve a 225 set and use it on railtours

[@Nate0493]

I have no doubt that LSL will take a 91! They already have a full Mk4 set and a DVT sitting at their depot!

[@BONESS27001]

This loco is now a museum exhibit and will not be used on mainline duties again. Thanks for your comment.

[@XC43285]

​@@BONESS27001 in the museum now

[@bfapple]

I doubt they’d be scrambling for one, given they’re more resource-intensive and less versatile than the 90s.

[@allenhughes867]

My son works on the LNER both the Azumas and class 91s /43s at Neville hill in Leeds probably worked on that one.

[@Boypogikami132]

The rear of that 91 is just so cursed.

[@irelandbloke]

Excellent catch ! 👍

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks.

[@irelandbloke]

@@BONESS27001 You're very welcome !

[@breathevideochannel4934]

It's amazing how dated the cab looks compared to recent introductions. Must visit again soon.

[@BONESS27001]

The loco will be on display at The Scottish Railway museum at Bo'ness from April 2023. Thanks for your comments.

[@timw6928]

Very tidy , great video

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks for your comment Tim.

[@toddhunter3137]

Aww the class 91s fond memories of them in the old BR days in the intercity livery.

[@BONESS27001]

There is no plan for now to repaint the loco. Thanks for commenting.

[@deanperry4996]

i think the reason they bring it by road is that its cheaper,by the way is this the last class 91 built ,i think it was named HENRY ROYCE

[@CustomiZe_]

Why is it that every heritage railway has a very tight and very narrow 90° corner at the entrance 😂😂

[@BONESS27001]

Its not 90 degrees but not far off 🤣. Thanks for your comment.

[@Decrepit_biker]

I think you guys need to rethink that first gate! 😂

[@BONESS27001]

No other transport company has found this a problem. We have had many vehicle moves in and out of this location. Thanks for your comment John.

[@ScotSteam47]

I think that driver needs to rethink lol, come on we could see that wasn't going to happen 🤣

[@Peppercorn60163Tornado]

Looks splendid!

[@BONESS27001]

All that glitters is not gold. The loco has some areas with minor corrosion and No 1 cab requires a deep clean but I agree, It looks splendid. Thanks for your comment.

[@ORBITERDAVE]

Can't wait to see it when I visit

[@ieuandavies4134]

This makes me feel old, I remember them being built......!

[@BONESS27001]

Me too. Thanks for commenting.

[@ieuandavies4134]

We are in the process of moving to Scotland and although we won’t be very near Bo’ness I will make an effort to visit!

[@przenim9383]

Wow!

[@Class158trainboy]

Im only 16 right now and have only just realised these were being put out of service which i find very sad because i grew up around these trains watching them pull into york railway station i always prefered these ones to the 43s because I liked the more square shaped design. So glad they have been put into preservation it makes me feel a bit old lol.

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks for your comment.

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

Why did they not drag it up on the ECML to the Heritage Railway?

[@terrier_productions]

Money. It would be more expensive to drag the locomotive along the ECML to Edinburgh, have the dragging locomotive run round the 91, then take it along to Falkirk

[@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire]

@@terrier_productions You say that but why did the 315 get dragged to the Dean Forest Railway from Ilford if it is cheaper to use a lorry?

[@Nate0493]

@@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire because that was an entire unit and not a singular locomotive, it would’ve been way more expensive and time consuming to have all the parts loaded up and taken by road

[@BONESS27001]

As others have said, its all down to the cost of a rail move that would have included an Ultrasonic axle test ( UAT ) and a Fitness To Run ( FTR ) exam. Thanks for commenting.

[@GreatBritishRailways1]

An interesting arrival. Regards, John

[@BONESS27001]

The Bo'ness museum team were responsible for this. Thanks for your comment.

[@Keyaans_Photography]

Fantastic!

[@keithgilham9438]

I can’t believe he even tried getting in at that angle

[@BumberenzoThePumperTruck]

9:18 Ahh I thought this was the front of the train. Btw it’s still a nice train!❤❤

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks for your comment .

[@neilburns8869]

Good video.

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks Neil.

[@thomasburke2683]

It would be nice to see it adjacent to an electrified line, but we can't have everything. Good luck with the project.

[@BONESS27001]

I agree but the loco will be displayed inside the Scottish Railway Museum at Bo'ness. Thanks for commenting Thomas.

[@WildWildWeasel]

Weird thing seeing the blunt end of a 91 like that, asymmetrical cabs but both functional

[@BONESS27001]

I still think its weird seeing this at a preserved railway. Thanks for commenting Jack.

[@WildWildWeasel]

@@BONESS27001 yeah, there’s a good handful of them still running too

[@ryleymclean313]

At 8:00 you can actually see the Class 314 hydrogen train too! And still in its saltire livery

[@BONESS27001]

The Class 614 Ex-hydrogen train. Thanks for your comment Ryley.

[@neilclarkson3548]

Static display only? Or are you installing a section of catenary on the line?

[@BONESS27001]

Static display only. There is a plan to erect OHL equipment at the Museum Of Scottish Railways for demonstration purposes, but not on that loco. Thanks for your comment Neil.

[@andysmart2379]

The cab interior at the blunt end must be in immaculate condition. They were hardly used in 30 years.

[@BONESS27001]

The No 2 end (blunt) is in very good condition but No 1 end requires a deep clean, especially the seats. Thanks for your comment Andy.

[@stephenchecksfield632]

​@@BONESS27001it's great that 91131 is being preserved I think the cherry on the cake 🍰 in a manner of speaking would be for her to renumbered 91031 and carry intercity livery again with the swallow and large numbers even if she actually doesn't run on the mainline again however great video nonetheless 😊

[@dougthedynamo]

When will this be running passenger services up to Kinneil and back? 😉

[@BONESS27001]

There is a plan to wire the Bo'ness yard, but its just a plan. Watch this space. 😉. Thanks for your comment.

[@dougthedynamo]

@@BONESS27001 no worries, was a joke tbh! I used to volunteer in the Civils team on a Monday so would be an interesting project to get the yard wired up!

[@davidnichol6282]

Were these trains used in Scotland never seen such a large one like that ?

[@BONESS27001]

These were used between Edinburgh and London for 30 years. Thanks for commenting David.

[@leonblittle226]

I think it's fully complete and therefore should be in near operational condition if nothing has been stripped out.

[@BONESS27001]

The vehicle is fully complete and nothing has been stripped out. This is now a museum exhibit that will never run again. Thanks for commenting Leon.

[@barrie5852]

Why is entrance to the yard so small?

[@BONESS27001]

Its not small. This is the first transport company who have had problems entering. We have had many vehicle moves via this entrance over the last ten years. One of these was filmed for the "Train Truckers" series on Channel 4 or 5 when the Battery train arrived. Thanks for your comment Barrie.

[@davidnichol6282]

Is there a museum In Bo'ness to see this locomotive.

[@BONESS27001]

There is a very large museum at the Bo'ness site that is open from early April 2023.

[@toddhunter3137]

Class 08 shunter I see at the end? 😅

[@wattstransportenthusiast621]

Why is that at the yard for preserving or storage

[@Peppercorn60163Tornado]

For preservation

[@wattstransportenthusiast621]

Wow wonder what they change due to being a electric need to be a hybrid system for it on the line

[@Schmalfonzo]

​@@wattstransportenthusiast621 It's going in the museum

[@soundseeker63]

This is the trouble with electrics - It's hard to keep them in operational condition unless you have OLE which lets face it, no preserved railways is going to bother with. Too expensive and too much H&S faff. That said, I would MUCH rather see them being preserved as exhibits than being scrapped - That has been physically painful to watch! I have so many happy memories of trips on the ECML behind these roaring beasts. I realise things change and times move on but, what with the end of HSTs as well, with the mk4 sets also soon to bow out it really does feel like the end of an era on the East Coast.

[@BONESS27001]

Thanks for your comments.

[@reallygoodtrains]

You missed out the most interesting bit, getting it off the low loader

[@BONESS27001]

The truck guys went for dinner and it was too cold to hang about. Thanks for your comment.

[@EpicThe112]

I wonder why they have to use a lorry to bring it into the museum. Even though the heritage railway is connected to the Edinburgh Waverly Glasgow Queen Street via Falkirk High line and ECML. For the Class 91 run light from Depot to Edinburgh Waverly and the junction of Bo'ness railway

[@cameronirvine37703]

That wouldn’t work. Probably cheaper and sadly easier to send it by road instead. Grim reality of today

[@petersmith4455]

hi, there, hope this loco will be painted in to a decent colour,at the moment it looks neglected

[@BONESS27001]

There are no plans to repaint the loco for now. Thanks for commenting.

[@fdhdd102]

i vote GNER

[@TrainspotterBarn2984]

That tight curve just before the MMPD entrance is crazy loud. WHAT RADIUS IS THAT???

[@BONESS27001]

Im not sure on the actual radius but its very tight.

[@ThePennineWanderer]

Will it ever run again?

[@BONESS27001]

This is now a museum exhibit.

[@ThePennineWanderer]

@@BONESS27001 ah nice!

[@mobiletransportvideo]

What used to be in the position at 12:06

[@BONESS27001]

I don't understand your question.

[@mobiletransportvideo]

@@BONESS27001 presumably something was in the loco at the timecode above that looked like was removed when it was retired from lner

[@trover420]

@@mobiletransportvideo its an ipad holder

[@mobiletransportvideo]

@@trover420 thank you

[@AHJ99.]

Holds the iPad which LNER drivers use a timetable advisory system on inside the 80x and 91s.

[@paulwyse878]

Allelys called. Said they would of got it in first time no problems. Twice the price though!

[@toddhunter3137]

Old diesel shunter to pull it.. this thing used to travel at 125 mph under electric 😊

[@eggs_trains]

The other end of them just looms a bit weird

[@BONESS27001]

I agree with you. Thanks for your comment.

[@mrroobarb]

Brilliant - how nice would it be to get some 25KV OLHE installed so it can run on the line

[@terrier_productions]

Its to be a static exhibit in the museum

[@bfapple]

Run on what line?

[@nathantomas1175]

Is it getting scraped

[@BONESS27001]

The vehicle will not be scrapped. It will be displayed in the Scottish Railway Museum at Bo'ness from April 2023. Thanks for your comment Nathan.

[@SirKenchalot]

Is the Scottish rial museum not accessible by.... rail? Why does It have to go by road?

[@BONESS27001]

The Scottish Railway museum is accessible by rail but its cheaper in the UK to vehicles like this by road. Thanks for your comment.

[@SirKenchalot]

@@BONESS27001 Really? Seriously? Wow.

[@bfapple]

@@SirKenchalotYes, the amount of work to recommission this single loco for a rail movement. Especially as it will only be a static exhibit.

[@SirKenchalot]

@@bfapple Can't you just drag it there behind a freight loco?

[@bfapple]

@@SirKenchalot would still need the recommissioning expense, even for a drag.

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

This needs to visit Crewe Heritage Centre soon!

[@BONESS27001]

The loco is staying at Bo'ness.

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

@@BONESS27001 darn it!

[@adamlee3772]

The irony of having a train delivered by truck.

[@andrewwaller5913]

It's cheaper by road

[@OxleyCentral]

fab news this :)

[@wewillrockyou1986]

Any reason they didn't just bring it in on the tracks?

[@BONESS27001]

Its cheaper in the UK to move something like this by road.

[@BritishTrainspotting]

The truck driver could've easily reversed in but no they decided to try and go head in 🤦‍♀ They literally have a steerable trailer, they could easily have used that to get in. All that would be needed is to move the car out the way, Nice little shunter there, is that a Class 04?

[@BONESS27001]

I agree with you but it was their plan. Thanks for your comment.

[@class50thrasher]

Whys it at Bo'ness when it should be sat in barrow Hill

[@BONESS27001]

If it was at Barrow Hill it would jus rust away outside. This record breaking loco has been saved for the nation and will be kept inside a warm shed. Thanks for commenting.

[@class50thrasher]

@@BONESS27001 Ah i assumed they would have it as its the last locomotive built at crewe works.

[@bfapple]

Think you’re confusing this with 91117 mate.

[@grahamwalls9379]

Why are locomotives always carried by hauliers & not allowed to journey by rail to other depots etc ? .

[@andrewwaller5913]

Money

[@WhiskeyGulf71]

& they have no place on heritage railways as heritage are unable to electrify.

[@BONESS27001]

The intension was never to run the loco. Its now a museum piece, stuffed and mounted. Thanks for your comment Will.

[@WhiskeyGulf71]

@@BONESS27001 i read that yes, i didn’t mean to sound like i was saying it shouldn’t be there, i was saying that the remaining locos have no home off the mainline.

[@johnreyortiz6154]

Never understand why on the railway they scrap locos always short of good runners

[@BONESS27001]

A least this one wont be scrapped. Thanks for your comment Johnrey.

[@JBFlytography]

This needs to be repainted into GNER livery 😉 Intercity Swallow has been done and the newer ones apart from current LNER were boring 😂 Glad one has been saved!

[@BONESS27001]

Personally, I never liked the GNER livery. The loco will be staying in this livery for now. Thanks for your comment.

[@AJSAN1971]

Nice paperweight.

[@cjmillsnun]

*Crewe

[@CarolCraig-lf5vo]

Why the would you want a class 91 at bo ness

[@BONESS27001]

Why not ?. This was offered to the Museum of Scottish railways at Bo'ness by the leasing company who owned it. Thanks for commenting Carol.

[@robtyman4281]

The lunacy of moving a train by road in the UK never fails to amaze me. I don't think they do this in France, Germany or Japan......so why here??? Old trains or ones to be scrapped should ALWAYS be moved by rail. There are no exceptions.

[@PaulabJohnson]

It's cheaper by road. Only an idiot would do it by rail if it is more expensive..

[@robtyman4281]

@@PaulabJohnson .....ok. But the railway is there - just saying! lol. Only a messed up society makes it cheaper to transport an old loco by road, than rail. I mean you have to wonder don't you. So much about the UK these days just doesn't make any sense. This is just one more thing in a very long list.

[@terrier_productions]

@@robtyman4281 yeah, but its also easier to take it by road and theres no faffing trying to workout a route and having it fit into the timetable

[@PaulabJohnson]

@@robtyman4281 I don't disagree. I guess that's privatisation for you. I can see how in theory it should create competition but it has failed

[@BONESS27001]

As others have said, its all down to the cost of a rail move that would have included an Ultrasonic axle test ( UAT ) ,Fitness To Run ( FTR ) exam and the rail move cost. Thanks for commenting.

[@toddhunter3137]

Bit of a turn there l😅

[@BONESS27001]

Very tight. Thanks for commenting Todd.

[@rickykoh3101]

i HATE any video that does NOT show completely how they unload the locomotive... ppfffftttttt

[@BONESS27001]

The truck guys gave up for a few hours after they arrived and I had to go home. It was also freezing weather. I did pick it up the following day. Thanks for commenting.

[@Afc1987]

Access are piss poor for lorry drivers in the UK

[@30dettjimvg]

What a shame no nuclear flasks need driving into.That would be an ideal candidate.Why keep such a mundane uncharasmatic item of railway history ?

[@garymcgregor7048]

Book some decent drivers next time. That was cringworthy 🙈

[@ScotSteam47]

100% 🤣🤣

[@bongman123]

You do it then mate if it was "cringeworthy" 😐

[@garymcgregor7048]

Could do a better job than that. Fancy trying to drive in with that small gate. Lol 😂

[@michaelcampin1464]

I dont like class 91 should have just stuck to proper locos non of this electric rubbish just give me a proper loco like a Deltic or any of the EE locos like class 50 or 37. Long may they ply their trade.I wont even have them on my model railway then again I wont have a GWR or Southern or LMS steam loco on my train set unless I cant build a scrapyard.

[@eilidhmm]

That's your opinion on them. Like it or not, they're part of the history of the railways and should be preserved.

[@tonyrobinson362]

You forgot 03s 07s 08s 20s 24s 25s 31s 35s 40s 52s 55s worked on them all as a secondman goodtimes.

[@harrisjpal]

What are you planing to do with the loco?

[@BONESS27001]

The loco will be a museum exhibit. Thanks for your comment.

[@tuc-dh4df]

Nice to see preserved, but how can it run with no overhead power?

[@tyler_bt3326]

Static display

[@BONESS27001]

The loco will never run again. Its now a museum exhibit. Thanks for your comments.