Classic fast bowling - Joel Garner v Greg Chappell at MCG December 1979

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@fisherrich100
@fisherrich100 3 жыл бұрын
Big Bird was a world class bowler. He played for Somerset CC for years and we loved him. Unplayable on the right wicket.
@painlesss13
@painlesss13 4 жыл бұрын
I understand chappell wasn't popular in India, he made mistakes with his attitude to coaching there but he really wanted the best for Indian cricket. He just approached it from the same way you did things in Australia. He was too blunt and didn't understand the politics of Indian cricket. For all the people who are not from Australia i can tell you chappell had no interest in being popular, he was interested in results and I think he would have known after India's bad performance in the world cup in the west indies that he would have been sacked as coach. His batting is almost beyond question, he was the only batsman to dominate the west indies in a series when they were a powerhouse. His efforts in the west indies in world series cricket in 1979 are unbelievable. 620 runs with 3 centuries puts his skill, courage and determination beyond reproach. Only Kepler weesels in 84/85 with 505 runs and one century and 2 ninetys and Alan lamb in England with 3 hundreds in 1984 go close. Some batsmen made big scores like gavaskar in madras and Dean Jones in Adelaide but no one else did it consistently over a full series.
@sentimentalbloke185
@sentimentalbloke185 8 ай бұрын
Indians were racist towards him & were happy when he was assaulted. All over a game of cricket.
@AshokKumar-xy9tr
@AshokKumar-xy9tr Ай бұрын
Yeah...ur right. Greg Chappell did everything for Indian cricket. But..u know...we have a different mindset.. to our loss. Greg couldn't understand that and fell victim. I think Dhoni got the best of Greg...Dhoni was different and so could produce results
@amitjain11000
@amitjain11000 Ай бұрын
agree with you, he tried his best and he was a fighter.
@garfield4108
@garfield4108 5 жыл бұрын
Look at that hideous length Garner bowls. He's getting balls into the armpit area that aren't overly short. He must have been a nightmare to face
@jkjkjkjkjk537
@jkjkjkjkjk537 5 жыл бұрын
In Geoff Boycott's own words "Nobody hit Joel". Big bird really was an absolute nightmare to face.
@kennethhenry6096
@kennethhenry6096 4 жыл бұрын
He got that sort of bounce of a decent length. The batsman used to say they found it hard to Pick the ball up sometimes as he was letting it go above the height of some of the sight screens. He wasn’t as quick with his stock ball as Holding and Roberts but he could bowl fast spells at times. But it was that bounce that made him a nightmare. Willis was the only other one of that era that seemed able to get it to do something like that off a length or back Of a length.
@lexol3347
@lexol3347 4 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you put your height to good use.
@ass09tube
@ass09tube 4 жыл бұрын
Shoaib, Lee, Tait, Sreesanth and those in 1998-2007 just tried to get 150-160 on speed gun. They didn't try to bowl unplayable spells, bowls that could make batsmen have doubt what is going to be next ball like... It's mind game great bowlers play. These lads made it brainless physical buffoonery.
@prismaticindia9046
@prismaticindia9046 3 жыл бұрын
Just like Curtly Ambrose
@UmeshaNomad1975
@UmeshaNomad1975 5 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why India's Sunny Gavaskar gets more respect, as he scored more centuries against west indies in West Indies and in India without helmet and other safety things. He faced all greatest bowlers of west indies.
@auh786
@auh786 3 жыл бұрын
Most of his runs came before the four-pronged pace attack came around.
@NishitShukla
@NishitShukla 3 жыл бұрын
@@auh786 You are right. He faced the quartet only once in 83 and his performance was dismal.
@garypatrick312
@garypatrick312 3 жыл бұрын
He is so much better than Sachin it's not funny to hostile fast bowling compared to gavaskar
@NishitShukla
@NishitShukla 3 жыл бұрын
@@garypatrick312 Can you write correct English?
@NishitShukla
@NishitShukla 3 жыл бұрын
Gavaskar scored just 1 century against the quartet: The Gavaskar myth: The myth about Gavaskar's centuries against the WI quartet: Gavaskar got just 1 century against the quartet in 83 in WI. His scores: 0, 20 1, 32 147 2, 19 1, 18. When the WI visited India later, they did not have Garner. So there was no quartet. Roberts was a spent force and bowed out after playing 1 test. Ya there was Marshall and Holding at their peak and two ordinary bowlers in Davis and Daniel plus Richards and Gomes. Gavaskar scored two centuries and one 90. So basically against the quartet, he has just one century and against quality WI attack he has 3 centuries and a 90. The rest of the 10 centuries are against very ordinary attacks. The 1st 4 centuries in 1971 was against a very poor nothing attack. Another 4 centuries came in 1978 when WI visited India with a second rung team, with Garner, Marshall, Holding playing the rebel Packer series in Australia. Marshall was a rookie, he was destroyed by all batsmen. The bowlers were Philip Marshall Jumadeen Parry Holder Gomes Clarke Kalicharan Shivnarine Out of these Gomes and Kalicharan were batsmen.
@fudgenuggets405
@fudgenuggets405 5 жыл бұрын
The Windies bowlers of those days did not consider them batsmen, they were targets.
@michaelwilson7924
@michaelwilson7924 5 жыл бұрын
You had to be alive back then to understand how fast bowlers dominated test cricket, and how hard it really was to make runs. In the late 70's to mid 80's, only 3 batsmen in the world averaged 50 plus. Viv Richards, Javed Miandad, and Greg Chappell. That says it all
@Godplayzdice
@Godplayzdice 2 жыл бұрын
And Gavaskar
@matthewlister7693
@matthewlister7693 2 жыл бұрын
@@Godplayzdice not in the 70's
@michaelwilson7924
@michaelwilson7924 2 жыл бұрын
@@Godplayzdice Yep Sunil Gavaskar averaged 50 too, that makes only 4, says alot doesn't it. Now every test playing country has players who average 50 just about. It was a brutal era, it really was
@Godplayzdice
@Godplayzdice 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwilson7924 agreed toughest era of batting. Modern techniques and batting gear was invented because of it.
@jahno7154
@jahno7154 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwilson7924 Averaging 50 for an opener against the new ball with all those great fast bowlers of the 70s and 80s is outstanding and world class
@praveenvaddepally7975
@praveenvaddepally7975 9 жыл бұрын
Brutal as it gets. Jaws broken, fingers broken, ..The Legendary West Indians bowlers like Joel are text book source for any bowler, on how to scare (almost kill), draw blood from batsmen ruthlessly, taking wickets. It was nightmare of batsmen then. Respect for all the legendary West Indian fast bowlers.
@prasannasrikrishna4585
@prasannasrikrishna4585 4 жыл бұрын
Going by ur description it must be respect to all those batsmen
@ashutoshmishra6221
@ashutoshmishra6221 4 жыл бұрын
@@prasannasrikrishna4585 Haha Obviously
@paiaullasantosh6038
@paiaullasantosh6038 6 жыл бұрын
If this is called fast Bowling..today's most bowler's are medium pacers..I really like the attrire too of these bowlers..
@briansukhu4392
@briansukhu4392 4 жыл бұрын
During that era, the golden era of fast bowling. To be considered fast you had bowl at least 90mph. Now people rave about someone who bowls at 86mph.
@v4vj601
@v4vj601 4 жыл бұрын
THOMSUN Roberts Lilly Garner Marshal Holding
@goku54082
@goku54082 3 жыл бұрын
No bro the main difference is that if old day bowlers bowl 145 kmph bouncer then it comes with 140 kmph speed due to acceleration but now even 150 kmph bouncer becomes 115 kmph bouncer when it comes to batsman as it lose it's speed due to retardation of pitch .
@jamesd7045
@jamesd7045 3 жыл бұрын
@@goku54082 Some pitches have been slowed, but the speed guns are also different. The old guns measured speed when the ball passed the bat. Now speed is from the hand,which is faster (probably about 10%). So a 90mph ball in the 1970's is about 100mph in today's terms. Jeff Thomson was 100mph in 1970's terms, and probably the quickest I ever saw.
@jamesd7045
@jamesd7045 3 жыл бұрын
@@bonjourr100 now it may be. In the 70's it was as it passed the bat.
@ravirajagopalan
@ravirajagopalan 5 жыл бұрын
Seen videos of Richards in his prime facing Lillie, Thompson and the Aussie bowlers of the late 70s. He batted really well but the bowlers had their moments too. It was a good contest. Then I watch videos of Richards batting against the likes of Merv Hughes, Greg Lawson, McDermott etc. in the mid and late 80s, by which time he was well past his prime in his late 30s. He plays them so easily and treats them with contempt. The bowling standards have fallen so much from the 70s.
@deepar499
@deepar499 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Proud Kannadiga. Kannada pride. Kannada power.
@anweshchatterjee7595
@anweshchatterjee7595 Жыл бұрын
That's a very bad way to judge. Lillee and Thompson were among the finest bowlers in their time. Hughes Lawson and McDermott, while really good in their own right, were definitely not the toughest challenge.
@ravirajagopalan
@ravirajagopalan 11 ай бұрын
@@anweshchatterjee7595 that is exactly what I said.
@anweshchatterjee7595
@anweshchatterjee7595 11 ай бұрын
@@ravirajagopalan that is not at all what you said. Or you didn't understand what I said. You're comparing the absolute best bowler of the 70s to one of the just good, above average bowlers of the 80s. that's just completely biased and unfair and you're just forcing the comparison to prove a moot point. There's absolutely *NO* way to compare between generations. Your nostalgia will tell you the 70s was the best era, someone else will say the 90s, someone else the 2010s. People must have thought the same in the 1870s too. Today I could make a genuine case for Bumrah being a better bowler than Thompson (apart from the raw pace aspect he definitely is), but next if you compare say Tim Southee to Lillee, obviously that makes no sense. From the 80s you'll want to compare the likes of Hadlee and Marshall to others, not any of the Australians until McGrath came along. Can you watch Marshall and say his quality is low? No. Settled.
@anthonyaduhene
@anthonyaduhene 5 жыл бұрын
The best part of this was the complete lack of concern shown by Clive Lloyd🤣
@richrockefeller3331
@richrockefeller3331 5 жыл бұрын
Why?
@sliferxxxx
@sliferxxxx 5 жыл бұрын
Y because Australia deserved everything they received and more considering they started the bouncer war bk in 1975-76
@richrockefeller3331
@richrockefeller3331 5 жыл бұрын
@@sliferxxxx research the word BODYLINE you ignoramous. Another idiot climate change disciple in our midst... careful the sky doesn't fall on your head dickhead.
@henrickadams7337
@henrickadams7337 5 жыл бұрын
Keen eye my brethren. Saw it too...
@gerardoneill5556
@gerardoneill5556 4 жыл бұрын
@@sliferxxxx This turned out to be good for Australia, eventually. The bitterness of defeat created a ruthless streak in Steve Waugh, so when the tables turned we showed no mercy to the Windies. That's what competition is all about!
@arunchemparathy199
@arunchemparathy199 6 жыл бұрын
Respect to the batsmen of that era who faced those bowlers without the protective guards. Batting was a different skill then
@arlenvandersmagt5560
@arlenvandersmagt5560 5 жыл бұрын
Arun Chemparathy So true.......an entirely different skill.......no covers when it rained, pitches that could make the ball fly off a good length....you had to watch the ball....you couldn’t just duck and hope for the best, because you get end up getting badly hurt!!
@anamikabhattacharjee3425
@anamikabhattacharjee3425 5 жыл бұрын
Very true. Really great.
@IndianCitizen04
@IndianCitizen04 5 жыл бұрын
Sunil Gavaskar is the legend in this matter. He never took even a helmet and never been hurt by any deadly fast bowling including Garner, Roberts, Thompson, Lille. His highest average was against West Indies and in West Indies he was treated as god.
@kunalsingh3121
@kunalsingh3121 4 жыл бұрын
@@IndianCitizen04 Fuck you asshole you are just day dreaming he never scored against that quatret popular myth spreaded by bumboys like you.
@kunalsingh3121
@kunalsingh3121 4 жыл бұрын
@SkyIsTheLimit Yaa just 1 100 but if u see packer cricket season 2 greg chappel single handedly take down windies quick if somebody really master them it was chappel and mohinder amarnath for a brief.Apart from that gavaskar struggle against dennis lilee,Richard hadlee and imran khan whereas viv dominate all 3 of them Yes viv got out by lilee 9 times but it was always him vs lilee that excite me as a fan.Gavskar was overrated except than as simple as it.And in that match if i remember only 2 innings were completed So cant say it was a quick pitch too. Good Player but overrated Too many Counts
@Bluepillphil-d1w
@Bluepillphil-d1w 2 жыл бұрын
Big Bird caught our imagination as kids. Formidable bowler, we watched in awe, and fear for the batsman.
@painlesss13
@painlesss13 4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing also is that Chappell and Garner were , and still are very friendly off the pitch. Just the way the West Indies and Aussies played cricket , very hard on the pitch , very friendly off the pitch . There were exceptions of course but after World Series Cricket the players knew each other very well.
@ghabcdef
@ghabcdef 10 жыл бұрын
If I was facing Garner, survived an LBW appeal and he seemed pissed, I'd fucking walk as fast as possible to the pavilion. Imagine being hit on the chest by him, and no protector either.
@EarlJohn61
@EarlJohn61 6 жыл бұрын
Use your bat, it's what it's there for!
@paulmurray8922
@paulmurray8922 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh... The days of the Four Horsemen, LOL!
@bernardjay379
@bernardjay379 5 жыл бұрын
Bowlers of that generation particularly the Windies bowlers were quick, hostile and nasty a century against the Windies quicks was worth a double century because of how difficult they were to score against but they were great bowlers no doubt.
@imransaeed3310
@imransaeed3310 3 жыл бұрын
Pppp
@imransaeed3310
@imransaeed3310 3 жыл бұрын
Pp
@imransaeed3310
@imransaeed3310 3 жыл бұрын
Pllpp
@imransaeed3310
@imransaeed3310 3 жыл бұрын
Ppp
@imransaeed3310
@imransaeed3310 3 жыл бұрын
Ppp
@padstowphantom
@padstowphantom 4 жыл бұрын
I recall someone saying because of Garner's height the ball was delivered from above the sight screen, so you had even less time to see the ball and react.
@marktaylor3657
@marktaylor3657 2 жыл бұрын
Two all time greats. Great footage.
@swamistyle
@swamistyle 8 жыл бұрын
While a little dated now, this TV coverage would still not look out of place today - replays, slow-mo, multiple camera angles, microphones, graphics on the screen - & this was all in 1979!!!! Compare this to the rubbish that was coming out of the BBC at the time (& continued for another decade). Australia (thanks to Kerry Packer) was light years ahead of the rest of the world & it would take until the 90s for everyone else to catch up.
@garfield4108
@garfield4108 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. Channel 9 was brilliant coverage of cricket
@nathanwilliams2152
@nathanwilliams2152 3 жыл бұрын
@@AAAAAA-gj2di - I respect where you’re coming from but I don’t agree. Packer did what needed to be done to make professional cricket competitive, and allow those who played for their country an honest days pay for an honest day’s labour. World Series Cricket was exactly what was needed to bring cricket into the modern era and have its athletes receive just recompense for the work they do (granted, there are discrepancies between various cricket boards in how they do this) but the principle is still there.
@thepimpernel6971
@thepimpernel6971 4 жыл бұрын
Chappell was a great player, one of Australias best batsmen ever. He played his entire career against the West Indies when they had those boys bringing heat all day every day. It was brutal. Chappell seemed to stand alone. I remember a test where he scored I think 64 against those lads on a wet pitch in Brisbane. It was a great innings one of his best. Brutal stuff.
@blackrose474
@blackrose474 3 жыл бұрын
Pimpernel: 100% agreed with you...
@peachesandherb9018
@peachesandherb9018 2 жыл бұрын
But he failed in this match
@andyfoxy3140
@andyfoxy3140 2 жыл бұрын
@@peachesandherb9018 Sure did. Bloody cheat.
@Godplayzdice
@Godplayzdice 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't play all his tests against west indies. Other teams like India were weak. He scored easy meat runs aplenty there. Nostalgia exaggerates stuff.
@jugheadsrule
@jugheadsrule 8 ай бұрын
@@Godplayzdice He only played one 3 Test series against India. From 75/6 until 81/2 includine WSC, he played 6 series against the Windies. Nostalgia seems to have rotted your brain.
@sivakumarkumar9805
@sivakumarkumar9805 Жыл бұрын
As an Indian Cricket fan, since 1970s, never seen such a good set of Fast bowlers like Andy Roberts, Michel Holding, Joel Garner, and Malcom Marshall. if such caliber of fast bowlers are in one Team, even now, the team can win across the globe, in all the formats of cricket. True Chsmpion Fast bowlers, especially, the Jamican Express, Michael Holding. what a champion bowler he was. smooth running and his bowling action was unmatchable. i am grate fan of him
@dfb1976
@dfb1976 4 жыл бұрын
Softened him up , the umpire should have given him out lbw earlier to spare him of this torment . This is pure joy to watch.
@daffyduck4674
@daffyduck4674 2 жыл бұрын
Terrible decision, was smacking into the top of middle stump.
@ananthkamath3478
@ananthkamath3478 Жыл бұрын
That's why Sunil Gavaskar was rated highly by the West Indians
@randyeduo
@randyeduo 4 жыл бұрын
TAKE THAT UNDER YOUR GUT, SON. CHAPPLE WILL NEVER FORGET THIS EXPERIENCE
@Goatboysminion
@Goatboysminion 5 жыл бұрын
The man was a bloody good bowler. End of story.
@anupammukherjee5992
@anupammukherjee5992 5 жыл бұрын
Test cricket...... Men cricket......
@jupiter-8405
@jupiter-8405 7 жыл бұрын
I miss test cricket and aggressive bowling like this, I used to love it. I'm losing interest in the sport now as one day games and T20 have strangled the test fomat, IMO they are cheap and nasty versions of the game.
@lonestar6709
@lonestar6709 7 жыл бұрын
I hate T20 also. Imagine Don Bradman at T20? He was 1s and 2s. Not slogging for 6 every shot. Silly format.
@EarlJohn61
@EarlJohn61 6 жыл бұрын
But he would've adapted to the requirements of the format... As too would've Sir Garfield Sobers & Barry Richards... (Now that's a top 3 to make your mouth drool)
@SivaKumar-kf6ee
@SivaKumar-kf6ee 5 жыл бұрын
Flat tracks are being made to draw the crowds, These flat tracks making bowlers toothless, there is no real competition between bat and ball, it's not cricket, anyone can swing his bat
@AAAAAA-gj2di
@AAAAAA-gj2di 5 жыл бұрын
@@lonestar6709 He had a SR of 72 in TEST CRICKET. He holds the record for making maximum runs in a single day (308*). He would have been fun at T20Is too
@anamikabhattacharjee3425
@anamikabhattacharjee3425 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right. Nowadays there are too many restrictions and the bowler cannot even bowl 2 bouncers in an over.
@anujsaxena3967
@anujsaxena3967 5 жыл бұрын
Great fast bowler even today' s great batsmen woold have had difficulty in facing him despite of having batsmen friendly pitches and better guarding equipments.
@manivelan9672
@manivelan9672 5 жыл бұрын
Big Bird had all the big skills one needs as a fast bowler..the speed, bounce,swing, & cut everything rolled in to one! You don't want to face him fast tracks!! Will be a total nightmare..even in unhelpful pitches he is a handful to deal with..
@jshaers96
@jshaers96 4 жыл бұрын
People claim Garner wasn't that quick but the keeper's taking the ball on the rise standing well back here.
@paulmurray8922
@paulmurray8922 3 жыл бұрын
All relative. He was the least quick of that bunch of tearaways but he was by no means slow, or even medium.
@addalasurya8002
@addalasurya8002 4 жыл бұрын
Making great batsmen play school boyish shots , what an attack they had - the Windies, the video was an absolute treat.
@RealistVK
@RealistVK 2 жыл бұрын
Fearsome Pace & Bounce by big Joel Garner roughed the tough guy Gregg Chappell. Fast bowling at its best.
@riyazahmed208
@riyazahmed208 3 жыл бұрын
I m 55 years old. I was a big fan of Greg chappels batting in childhood . He looked tall sleek and graceful like a tin soldier . After him i found resemblence to greg chappel in Azharuddins batting style. Difference was: azhar was more wristy and stylish , chappell played with a straighter bat in V and had greater concentration powers compared to azhar . Sir Greg chappel was a better exponent of pull shot, azhar flick shot was better. Chappel could convert his big hundred into double hundrerd, azhar was more attacking on his day. Both had one thing in common , collors up and century in first and last tests.Incidently sir Greg chappel was Azharuddins role model , Azhar said after scoiring 3 hundrereds in a row.
@kartikamarjeet2082
@kartikamarjeet2082 Жыл бұрын
Great Azharuddin! My favourite along with Great Rahul Dravid, Vinod Kambali and Andy Flower... The list is long, but yes. He was my 1st favourite and still is.
@shakeelsait9577
@shakeelsait9577 3 жыл бұрын
Great bowling extremely beautiful spell of quality fast bowling.
@mkeysou812
@mkeysou812 5 жыл бұрын
Let's put Steve Smith against Joel on this pitch with a GN one scoop circa 1979 and see if he still averages 70
@nathanbellamy3308
@nathanbellamy3308 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Smith would average sweet fuck all against this attack.
@TheJonkerr7
@TheJonkerr7 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanbellamy3308 not so sure about that. Smith's technique is mainly back foot, very similar to Ian Chappell, Bruce Laird, Graham Gooch in that regard, and they were all very good performers v the WI. No doubt he wouldn't average 70 (!) but as driven as he is, I reckon he'd go alright.
@nathanbellamy3308
@nathanbellamy3308 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJonkerr7 it's a very well know fact Smith is scared of the short ball. What are you on about?? Joel Garner would slay him. I met Joel garner too when I was a kid.
@TheJonkerr7
@TheJonkerr7 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanbellamy3308 Scared of the short ball? He's not scared, it just sometimes get him in a tangle, like it can all players. Considering his sheer bloody mindedness and ADHD I reckon he'd find a way through it
@creambiscuit744
@creambiscuit744 3 жыл бұрын
With due respect, Smith’s era of greatness started almost with the end of bowling era... no current crop of bowlers can match those deadly windies bowlers... n add the flat pitches to that... likes of steyn, mcgrath, wasim akram, waqar younis would have eaten smith for breakfast.
@martynlooms9445
@martynlooms9445 3 ай бұрын
Joel Garner was one of my first cricket favourite's. I got his picture card from pg tips. Loved watching the great West Indies team. They were ruthless and tough but also gentlemen and played the game right. They never sledged they didn't need too.😅😅 My opinion the greatest team in cricket history they were world class.
@anamikabhattacharjee3425
@anamikabhattacharjee3425 5 жыл бұрын
You were great sir. I like the bowling action very much
@boedickson5549
@boedickson5549 5 жыл бұрын
Either you give ur wicket or I'll take ur life
@jstreete
@jstreete 10 жыл бұрын
Brilliant footage. Contemporaries often say that Garner was the least quick of the four, but he looks pretty sharp here to me.
@legspin
@legspin 10 жыл бұрын
When your baseline was Michael Holding you could see where they were coming from though. With Garner though, his best asset was his height. Balls on a good length would rise unexpectedly sharply.
@hyena131
@hyena131 9 жыл бұрын
+jstreete Garner deceptively quick.
@krell2130
@krell2130 5 жыл бұрын
pace isn't the only killer
@davidgraham8299
@davidgraham8299 5 жыл бұрын
Fast enough I think.
@richrockefeller3331
@richrockefeller3331 5 жыл бұрын
The LBW was going over.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 4 жыл бұрын
Yep - on bouncy Australian wickets if the ball hits above the knee roll it is always too high to hit the stumps. Which the umpire knew.
@chainreaction1703
@chainreaction1703 4 жыл бұрын
Over leg stump
@davidgraham8299
@davidgraham8299 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly too high
@peerzadaabdulbasit6179
@peerzadaabdulbasit6179 5 жыл бұрын
Aggressive fast bowling has become a rare commodity these days
@hkukok
@hkukok 5 жыл бұрын
This era was cricket at its finest, Windies skills honed by WSC made for the most formidable team in history. The deepest talent pool with the best athletes choosing cricket, and great matches involving Windies, Australia, England, Pakistan, New Zealand and India.
@dmps000111
@dmps000111 9 жыл бұрын
Garner was nippy as hell. Thing is bowlers of that height make the ball travel through so much more distance that batsmen always have that extra half second to play the ball. But the instantaneous velocity on the ball looks more than many of the shorter 'genuinely quick' bowlers.
@shr011104
@shr011104 4 жыл бұрын
Batters like Chappell, Boycott, Gavaskar, Richards all had huge balls to take on the terror unleashed by the quickies of those days, be it Lillie-Thommo or the Fearsome Foursome... required sheer guts...the above not only faced them but scored tons of runs. Wondering when will I get to see the real cricket back.
@prachya1000
@prachya1000 8 ай бұрын
Please don't forget Brian Close
@shr011104
@shr011104 8 ай бұрын
@@prachya1000 who can forget that deadly overs from Holding
@TheQ-Continuum
@TheQ-Continuum 8 жыл бұрын
Joel "Big Bird" Garner with his high arm action was an awkward bowler to face. He never took as many wickets as Roberts and Holding, but was a real handful and was never an easy bowler to score runs from:
@cooldewd35
@cooldewd35 8 жыл бұрын
Garner was brilliant. Had a better bowling average than both Garner and Holding. All great bowlers.
@kennethcourt4741
@kennethcourt4741 8 жыл бұрын
Garner 259 Test wickets, Holding 249, Roberts 202. Surprising but true. In addition Garner had an average of barely over 20, making him one of the statistically most successful bowlers of all time. For some reason Holding and Roberts are much more famous.
@TheQ-Continuum
@TheQ-Continuum 8 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected ! Big bird did take more wickets than Holding and Roberts. Their actions had faster run-ins than Garner's. Holding was graceful and fast flowing ,while Roberts had a fast rocking action. Big Bird had a more slower looking approach to the wicket that may have been deceptive to watch, but the delivery was just as quick !
@psn1729
@psn1729 7 жыл бұрын
all four ruthless my friend best fast quartet ever
@PlanetoftheDeaf
@PlanetoftheDeaf 6 жыл бұрын
Garner was brilliant in limited overs cricket as he was so hard to hit!
@amjadkhan-jv6xj
@amjadkhan-jv6xj 5 жыл бұрын
This was when windies were feared by every team.
@carlmarks8170
@carlmarks8170 3 жыл бұрын
The West Indies were relentless in that era. There were no weak links. No let up; no respite. Andy Roberts... Joel Garner... Michael Holding... Colin Croft... Malcolm Marshall... Sylvester Clarke was a fearsome quality fast bowler who only managed to play 11 tests because those others were so good. From the first over until stumps, it was 90mph... short of a length... up into the rib cage and throat... with 3 slip fielders, 2 gullies and no restrictions on short pitched deliveries and no fines for slow over rates. They were unbeatable.
@Banu720
@Banu720 2 жыл бұрын
Joel Garner is my favourite. The variable bounce he produced is a treat. Many batsman were found confused with the height the ball will come. Marvelous bowler
@hsports5284
@hsports5284 4 жыл бұрын
The comments clearly showing that 70s and 80s cricket quite different from today
@denvercheddie
@denvercheddie 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they had speed guns back on those days. I would love to know the speed of some of those deliveries.
@azeemmayo6983
@azeemmayo6983 3 жыл бұрын
Gavaskar made 13 centuries against these nightmares, Respect from Pakistan for Great Gavaskar.
@paulmurray8922
@paulmurray8922 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. That is why I laugh at folks who rank some of the modern day batsmen higher than Sunny. The original Little Master.
@bobdown5520
@bobdown5520 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@flash-uj6ly
@flash-uj6ly 3 жыл бұрын
Who is Joel Garner? Some third class garbage thrash fast bowler. Pragyan Ojha is billion times better than Joel Garner. Watch this video. Pragyan Ojha is a better bowler than Michael Holding, Joel Garner, Malcolm Marshall,Colin Croft and Andy Roberts. Pragyan Ojha is billion times better than Joel Garner. Pragyan Ojha is fastest to take 100 test wickets in his 22nd test match. Who is Joel Garner? Some third class garbage thrash fast bowler! Watch this video of Pragyan Ojha destroying west indies. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHOsq2uXl9ZofdU
@SriShridhar
@SriShridhar 2 жыл бұрын
Imran used to rate batter by his defense against an unplayable delivery not by the fours and sixes..
@mohoshinuddinahmed6754
@mohoshinuddinahmed6754 3 ай бұрын
8 of the 13 centuries were scored agaist second string WI attack.
@Beazle00
@Beazle00 8 жыл бұрын
Remember that Greg Chappell- between 1975-1980 scored 1821 runs against Roberts, Holding Garner and Croft ( the last two from 1977) at 69.
@johnartwell6925
@johnartwell6925 7 жыл бұрын
Beazle00, yeah if umpires not giving out LBW's and caught behind Greg Chappell would've been useless not scoring so much runs. The Aussies both players and their umpires forget that it's a gentleman's game.
@johnartwell6925
@johnartwell6925 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick, I reckoned we could've had a decent conversation without foul language. After all this forum is used to vent both facts and opinions. Furthermore is not only in this innings/series alone, even the next series 79/80 WI fast bowlers BLATANTLY got dubious decisions from Aussie umpires - we still won the series though.
@wearywanderer2722
@wearywanderer2722 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnartwell6925 With 2 West Indian Umpires Greg Chappell scored 620 runs in the 5 WSC Supertests in the West Indies in 1979 @ 69 with 3 centuries a 90 and a 85, Fact.
@sliferxxxx
@sliferxxxx 5 жыл бұрын
For the uninitiated, Greg Chappell was an outstanding atg batsman. Anyone who doubts his credentials knows nothing about real cricket. Respect from the Caribbean
@painlesss13
@painlesss13 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on, chappells record is amazing. Comfortably the best against full strength west indies teams between 1975 and 1995
@Godplayzdice
@Godplayzdice 2 жыл бұрын
Joel was greatest ODI bowler. Hardest bowler in history to hit. Impossible to score against.
@garethwest9069
@garethwest9069 2 жыл бұрын
Umpire was right not to give that. Definitely too high and the replays confirm. GC was rattled and wasn't his day. Garner was a beast!
@xaamir
@xaamir 10 жыл бұрын
heck of a spell
@blackrose474
@blackrose474 3 жыл бұрын
Joel Garner and Curtly Ambros were almost 'death' to batsman. West Indies pace batteries proved to be fatal to these wonderful batsmen...No mercy... Greg Chappell was great batsman of his time but even he was bowled as club cricketer by this Giant Joel Garner...
@johnmehaffey9953
@johnmehaffey9953 5 жыл бұрын
I just loved Joel class act
@sashidharkaranam2618
@sashidharkaranam2618 3 жыл бұрын
*_Brutal , yet clinical_* *Classic fast bowling, softening up the batsman with bullets into the ribcage, and finally snaring him up with a snorter ! * *Even a batsman of Greig Chappel's caliber made to look like a bunny !* *West Indian pace battery of that era is truly unparalleled in the history of test cricket.* *Today's batsmen would need to wear a spacesuit to face that kind of fast bowling I believe !*
@psn1729
@psn1729 7 жыл бұрын
kudos windies gaints after ambrose walsh duo the real windies fast bowling is not seen
@zibtihaj3213
@zibtihaj3213 10 жыл бұрын
How about Holding from this series ? Thx
@Subash0069
@Subash0069 8 жыл бұрын
Damn garner only played 8 test matches when he was 27.
@kwl189
@kwl189 5 жыл бұрын
Robbed of his brilliance before he was even in his prime. Sadly tests were not played as much as they are now and preparations were certainly much longer too. Now there's an imbalance of quantity over quality. Certainly cherished a single test when Joel bowled.
@evanaskew6652
@evanaskew6652 5 жыл бұрын
His record would be different if you included world series super tests. Which would be even more impressive as they were wickets taken against the 1970 Aystralians and a world xi with Richard's, Abaas, Miandad, Greig, knott, majid khan and Dennis amis.
@AAAAAA-gj2di
@AAAAAA-gj2di 5 жыл бұрын
It took months to travel between continents
@evanaskew6652
@evanaskew6652 5 жыл бұрын
@@AAAAAA-gj2di you know they had air travel by 1979 dont you?
@evanaskew6652
@evanaskew6652 5 жыл бұрын
@@AAAAAA-gj2di cool
@szuberi
@szuberi 4 жыл бұрын
Aggressive bowling. Batting in that era was a different class.
@jshaers96
@jshaers96 4 жыл бұрын
Garner wasn't just tall, he was strongly built too, all muscle. Ambrose seems quite lightweight compared to the Big Bird. What a line-up of bowlers the Windies had back then, bloody terrifying!
@simongleaden2864
@simongleaden2864 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and in that series a young Malcolm Marshall couldn't even get in the XI!
@enthusiastlearner8404
@enthusiastlearner8404 4 жыл бұрын
West Indian bowlers !!! Sir Viv's batting average in domestic cricket was nearly half compare to his international cricket average. Luckyly he was in West Indian team.
@mickcundall4036
@mickcundall4036 2 жыл бұрын
Is that the great Yorkshireman FS Trueman commentating?
@randyeduo
@randyeduo 5 жыл бұрын
THEY MADE HIM ANGRY WHEN THEY DECIDED TO BOO HIM. HE WAS HAVING NONE OF IT. HE SHOWED THEM WHAT HE CAN DO WITH THIS BALL IN HIS HAND. The bouncers came in to intimidate him
@lexol3347
@lexol3347 4 жыл бұрын
Chappel: Why didn't you send me when I was LBW? Umpire: I must have my fun too. Tough luck that it's at your expense.
@sugarnads
@sugarnads Жыл бұрын
Loved watching Big Bird bowl.
@captpicard6894
@captpicard6894 4 жыл бұрын
Joel Garner never got the respect he deserved. It’s only because he was so accurate, hostile and so difficult to score off that allowed Holding, Roberts, and particularly Marshall to take as many wickets as they did bowling from the opposite end to Joel.
@davewilson9738
@davewilson9738 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how good that whole team was - Black Death! An amazing cricketing side.
@karlmylnere5712
@karlmylnere5712 5 жыл бұрын
Popular opinion states that Joel was no as quick as his partners, correct most of the time but, when needed, he could be just as quick as the others, but, as has been stated with his bounce and length he had no need to be.
@curtisalleyne3710
@curtisalleyne3710 Жыл бұрын
I met Joel Garner in Barbados a lovely friendly guy as long as you weren't a batman 😂
@awadheshkumar
@awadheshkumar Жыл бұрын
Vintage test cricket. Superb balling. Great shot and then the fall. This is what Test cricket was all about in those days. Today is the day of pajama cricket.
@Dua1512
@Dua1512 2 жыл бұрын
They should have Chapel and Garner talk about it now with video playing!
@Ajay_Kumar-uq8rd
@Ajay_Kumar-uq8rd 3 жыл бұрын
Great bowling and batsman coping under pressure..
@bmmr
@bmmr 4 жыл бұрын
Ball vs Skull era of cricket 🏏
@kasinathar1874
@kasinathar1874 2 жыл бұрын
Kim Hughes the legend on the other end having a chuckle.😎👍🏽
@jonathonjubb6626
@jonathonjubb6626 3 жыл бұрын
Just like when we played, no arm guards, no chest protectors, no grills, no thigh pads - man's game!
@cquilty1
@cquilty1 6 жыл бұрын
Garner a batsman's nightmare.
@davidgraham8299
@davidgraham8299 5 жыл бұрын
They had four nightmare bowlers at the same time AND quality backup as well
@manjulakr9637
@manjulakr9637 3 жыл бұрын
I heard he has once clocked 91mph by using old method of calculating speed I think actually how much was his fastest ball
@vickyvirk4424
@vickyvirk4424 3 жыл бұрын
He was no more than 82-83 mph....stop making things up. I see you posting the same type of message on KZbin videos. Garner was not all that fast.
@anirudhsuresh4481
@anirudhsuresh4481 Жыл бұрын
@@vickyvirk4424 If you don't know exactly about Garner please don't comment any think here he is no where near his fastest Garner has bowled much faster in 1984/85
@kenphillips9904
@kenphillips9904 Жыл бұрын
Sir Andy Roberts, Michael holding, Collin Croft and Joel Garner. The undisputed four horsemen. Never in the history in the game of cricket there was an attack like the four horseman
@ashersharif6264
@ashersharif6264 2 жыл бұрын
Greg Chappel was a master against that battery of vicious WI attack and that on difficult pitches which were not well prepared.
@hassannasir6478
@hassannasir6478 8 жыл бұрын
great.fast.bowler..nasir.rodeni
@brusselssprouts560
@brusselssprouts560 Жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to see either Chappell brothers sorted out.
@drdebdattabhattacharyya904
@drdebdattabhattacharyya904 4 жыл бұрын
No one is good against express pace bowling and short pitch deliveries . Here Guru Greg is dancing around .
@rk3726
@rk3726 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine , Greg chappel being the most technically sound and the best batsman of that Aus era, getting such pounding, what would be the other ones sitting in the pavilion going through?? Once Garner done his over, Roberts and Holding and Croft were waiting. In fact Garner was the nicest one of that lot, how scary is that !!!!!
@djhaijfl
@djhaijfl 5 жыл бұрын
Those days batsman are on the mercy of bowlers, great era
@kiranbhabal3329
@kiranbhabal3329 3 жыл бұрын
Once reporters asked Clive Lloyd don't you have any spin bowler in your touring side. He replied Joel Garner is our spin bowler, as he was the slowest among the fearsome pace quartet. By no means he was slow.😨
@nawshercse98
@nawshercse98 4 жыл бұрын
1 run from that era equivalent to 2 run of current era. Basically scoring 5000 run during that great bowling era would be easily equivalent to 10000 runs of current era. Just wondering if Viv Richards would play now he would have score 100 centuries in less than 10 years.
@LuciferMorningstar786
@LuciferMorningstar786 5 жыл бұрын
Should ask Kohli and co. to play this kind of bowling. Batting averages would be down by 20...
@chittiumashankar1105
@chittiumashankar1105 5 жыл бұрын
Y only kohli and co what about other players in other teams😠😠😠😠😠
@LuciferMorningstar786
@LuciferMorningstar786 5 жыл бұрын
@@chittiumashankar1105 By Kohli & co I meant all the top batsmen in other teams.
@ethos2781
@ethos2781 5 жыл бұрын
NO HELMETS!!!
@linsleyolton
@linsleyolton 4 жыл бұрын
kholi runs and records would never impress me he faced lower standard bowling sachin Lara kallis pointing dravid chanderpaul the Waugh bros faced better and more fierce bowling
@dweller6065
@dweller6065 4 жыл бұрын
Garner was a good bowler who would trouble most batters today. But i do believe that leading batters would cope better than did G Chappell. Adjustments were made to batting technique as a result of windies pace attack. Greg Chappell was considered a top 2 or 3 batsman during the 70s, with a test batting ave of about 65 by 1980. However following his return to official test cricket from about 82 onwards, Chappell's footwork against short pitched bowling was exposed. Kohli, Warner, Smith (and Steve Waugh in his day) are super aggressive, fantastic on the backfoot and square of the wicket. Bat technology and improved protective gear has helped improve the competitiveness of batters.
@krishnbimanagar
@krishnbimanagar 9 жыл бұрын
umpire was kinda intimidated to give out for that LBW
@kanch1981
@kanch1981 3 ай бұрын
Great bowling
@nathanshepherd6960
@nathanshepherd6960 4 жыл бұрын
I wish these days would come back now a days all we have joke that they say is cricket. I hope that they are paying these old cricketer for they hard work.
@MegaChabrol
@MegaChabrol 2 жыл бұрын
How did anyone score on Garner! The guy was so consistent with his line and length, the ball would rear up at the batsman without even being pitched that short and if he did dig it in and upped his pace to the 90 mark you'd be taking your life in your hands trying to score off that. He'd make a great batsman like Chappell struggle to survive, imagine being a number 10 or 11 coming in to face him-sheesh!
@atharvagawde8237
@atharvagawde8237 4 жыл бұрын
Sunny gavaskar never wore a helmet in his entire career
@jugheadsrule
@jugheadsrule Жыл бұрын
Yes he did
@rajskop
@rajskop 5 жыл бұрын
This is the real game just good bat & bowl contest....
@J_Teriyaki
@J_Teriyaki 2 жыл бұрын
Chappell immediately gets off the mark. That's how it's done in benefit/testimonial matches. Not much charity from "Big Bird" afterwards!. Regards from Rockhampton, Queensland 👍
@saleemkirmani5583
@saleemkirmani5583 2 жыл бұрын
The Big Bird has the last laugh!
@srikanths2741
@srikanths2741 5 жыл бұрын
goel was wrong there..it would have gone over stumps and missed leg too
@shaneb6004
@shaneb6004 5 жыл бұрын
Windies were at their best back then . Joel Garner , Michael Holding and Co. bowling 8 ball overs at a very good Aussie batting line-up .
@MyRammy1
@MyRammy1 4 жыл бұрын
Australia had a team of 14 men in those days.
@ethos2781
@ethos2781 5 жыл бұрын
These Were The Best of Times for Test Match Cricket... Men in Crisp Whites. NO ADVERTS!!! MEN FACING PACE LIKE FIRE!!! (Mostly without Helmets) Those were the days of "REAL" "TESTS"... Batsmen Without Helmets, I DOUBT THE "MODERN GREATS", EXCEPT PONTING Could've blunted or taken on & succeeded/ thrived against the likes of these immortals from the West Indies.
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