Classic Game Room - BATTLE ARENA TOSHINDEN REMIX for Sega Saturn review

[@AxeCrazyAutobot]

And to think Sony advertised this as a Virtua Fighter killer back in the day.

[@FIXTREME]

Because it was

[@ciredecgellar8232]

@@FIXTREME it wasn't but that work.

[@Scopie33]

PS TOSHINDEN was my first PS game. I remember crowding around the TV playing this with friends thinking, wow it can't get any better than this! A few weeks later I played Tekken for maybe 5 mins until it occurred to me how much better Tekken was.

[@clresseg]

One of the first games I ever rented for the PSX was Battle Arena Toshinden. It was pretty fun. Definitely had the cheese factor, although it didn't seem so bad back then (Tekken and VF were still rough around the edges as well).

[@danielengel4593]

Summer of 1995, my brother and 2 neighbor girls played the hell out of it, and we had so much fun, it had so much charm. (Really enjoying the music till this day).

[@DarkVelizar]

I played this game Non-Stop on my PC when i was a kid! My favorite was the Duke, and he had excellent combos that were very appealing to me! Thank you for the memories CGR

[@VJFranzK]

Toshinden series takes a while to get into, but becomes good after you get into the way the control timing is. Especially see Toshinden 3 for PSX, where every character has a semi-redesigned clone. There is Toshinden Subaru 4 in Japan, which I've never actually played.

[@SHAKHIR2Super]

Thunder ring! Wow, I was obsessed with this game as a kid.

[@ChevyJP86]

lol ha ha what a steller review mark, and the sarcasm was better than ever in this one! I remember getting this game with my original PS1 back in 96, it was bundled with it, and man looking back on it now......i cant believe i played the hell out of it back then??? but i remember distinctly getting a demo disc with tekken 2 on it and eventually playing the demo more than the full version of battle Arena toshinden.

[@Manjoume]

I thought it was cool how how the cut scenes were anime-esk, I like the way it looks, 3d and all. I have this game, it was one of my first Saturn titles, and I thought it was pretty good, not smooth, but, good.

[@Metafron]

This is the game that got me into the Toshinden series. I didn't think it was bad at the same, seeing as how i was around 10 or so. I enjoy the characters and wish they would update this series on a more recent console.

[@synthem9389]

i remember seeing this running in a store, as a new game on the new Playstation, and i was so awed... and there i was, 'only' buying Knuckles Chaotix for my 32X. (which luckily was an awesome game!)

[@SylveonTrapito]

This one the first game I played on a PS1. Lovely memories

[@Sukochii]

I personally love the first two toshindens and the music! The music for the first two games were amazing! I still get nostalgic and play them for a few hours some days. Hehe!

[@Chipsonfire]

I rented a Saturn what must have been about 13 years ago and got this game with it. This remains the only game I've ever played on a Saturn lol.

[@SStyle5]

Awesome game, one full of fond memories. Also, you are now hearing Eiji as Jackie Chan from Jackie Chan Adventures

[@kuatolives5355]

God i remember this when i was a kid and now i cant bear it till the end of the video

[@PhyuckYiu2]

I had the PS version & my favorite thing was pulling off desperation attacks when your bar was blinking red.

[@ZiggyIsGrape]

I grew up with this game :D

[@pipirori7269]

Ohyfigp

[@broceollomon]

That review was sorta hilarious. Also; I'm wondering if you'll be doing a Red Dead Redemption review later this week. I'm sure you'll have fun with that.

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Now that are dialogs to remember :) Hey sometimes it is the badness that gives a game really it's worth.

[@Darkbeatdk]

"Aaaææge dåååsent matter when ya gut pøøpuese!" Awesome review as always!

[@Kahalasama]

Oh god, your choice of opening scenes is always good for a laugh. "You're fighting in this tournament! You're just a girl" *CGR jingle*

[@carlitoxxe]

Actually, the idea of "battle arena vs kasumi ninja vs pit fighter vs etc" it's very nice :)

[@RealRaynedance]

The ending "perfect game" was epic XD

[@wexenhex]

wow i thought i was the only one who played the game boy game! i have fond memories of that one, and i actually think its a far better game than when i finally played the one for PS1...

[@MrROTD]

Bushido Blade!!!! I forgot all about it until I saw this review

[@TheGachaGourmand]

Duke: What am I missing? Tricks? Power? Me: No. What you need is a cape (and a better voice actor) :P

[@KaiserChiefsPocketbombs]

Jullian Sebrero and a harder dick!

[@KongNintendoFanatic]

+KaiserChiefs LOL!

[@Doyledeth]

How do you do those orange LOL's and OMGS?

[@zborgerd]

@SicHerzeleidJuggalo What really made Evil Zone cool was its simple controls and unique story lines for every character (including the final boss). It's certainly not without its faults but there is enough there that really makes it stand out among all of the fighting games out there.

[@segagenesis1989]

This is a port of the Playstation game and has a few additional features. There is supposedly a new game being developed on the Wii titled "War Budokai".

[@ibrokemykeyboard]

I still have this one for my PS1. First PlayStation game I ever purchased.

[@Pochilin]

one of the first games i actually enjoyed playing everyday lol

[@ThePsychoguy]

I used to love Battle Arena Toshinden. Crappy gameplay, but even now the music is some of the most awesome.

[@zborgerd]

If you like original and strange fighting games, try "Evil Zone" for the Playstation. It's a fun, original, story-driven fighter with a unique battle system. It's quite fun as a two-player game and some of the humor is pretty good. Very campy like Battle Arena Toshinden, but much better!

[@gohmifune]

@EnigmaHood I wouldn't call it cheesy. VA back then was meant to be serviceable. You get a couple of off-guild actors to the work so you can produce it at a cost that nets a profit. Games weren't meant to be movies back then. Also, it would surprise me if any of the voice work in VF is done in a an English-speaking country.

[@EnigmaHood]

@gohmifune Why are you telling me this? Mark said it was cheesy, not me. My argument was, if you think BA's voiceacting is cheesy, then VF's is definitely cheesy. Personally I think the VA is just bad, but it's not really important. Back then just having VA was a technological leap forward. But the gameplay is all that matters.

[@brtshstel]

4:12 Srsly, how do you block a big broadsword with a whip?

[@jerman2003]

kasumi ninja... when the scott lifts up his kilt... lol

[@RandyTandy15]

This. Looks. Brilliant.

[@stretchypants123]

PSX version plays much better due to Sega Saturn's hardware. This is my first-time seeing it. Congrats on making a good-review!

[@GamingPalooza]

i have the ps1 versions, 1 and 2... but I rather have it on the Saturn. Saturn fighting games are awesome.

[@devmiles]

i was absolutely blown away when i got this for my psx in '94, even better than tekken 1. tekken 2 kicked epic butt though!!

[@jerman2003]

@Sbrff I was in college, thx for making me feel old! ;)

[@gokusondbz]

I have had this since 1996 for me ps1 ps1 my favorite system of all time!!!...

[@RockyRaccoonYT]

@LewdCrudeTattoo I see you trollin'. If you actually read about this channel you'd realize that he does mostly classic game reviews, and modern games every now and then. There are plenty of modern game reviewing sites out there, and little classic game reviewing people. It's important to have a good balance of the two (and fortunately for us, Mark does both, just more classic games or not well known games...which is why I subscribed to this channel in the first place. And because Mark is win).

[@3215121]

Ahhhh!!! The wink killed me XD

[@RockyRaccoonYT]

@OldManMcScrotumFace Good point man. I think that there was actually a lot of bad quality stuff in the days of retro like there is now, but there are lots of weird retail/developer differences nowadays such as the introduction of DLC, pre-order exclusive content, the importance of online, and so on. I feel there have been some amazing games this generation, and some equally amazing games from the retro era. Good games will always be good, while bad games will always be bad. To me, at least. :)

[@Darkbeatdk]

If you like this you should look up "All Star Fighters". It's a fighting game with D3 Publisher characters, meaning you get the Oneechanbara and a guy from Earth Defence Force and some other weird characters.

[@KingVirmire]

one of my favorite fighting games of all time Tobal #1 Battle Arena Toshiden Versus Rival Schools nostalgia*

[@17R3W]

@xSycoClanTVx I believe he said "new mexico" still, there's likely a bunch of them too...

[@edison700]

This game was in my cd tray when i bought my Saturn at a pawn shop

[@YadonTheCat]

It's also on PC, with a Earthworm Jim as a bonus character. No really, it's true! He's just a reskin with new sounds of the guy with the club though.

[@LFiers]

@TeitiTT You can Liller Instinct anywhere I friggen LOVE that fighter! Orchid and Fulgore FTW!

[@MIAM_MIAM_CUISINE]

I wouldn't say the music is dreadfull, in fact I love the music. It's probably the best part of the game.

[@Kr4v3rd]

Wow i dont remember this game being so slow when it first came out

[@KiwiKamikaze]

Oh my goodness. The voice acting oh god. lol It reminds me of the OVA a bit. That was pretty terrible but it was so bad, I couldn't help but like it.

[@SurgeCess]

Wow, I haven't seen a CGR review in years, I love these!

[@ciredecgellar8232]

Toshinden is not a bad game, it's not technically as good as Virtua fighter for sure, but for beginner or casual gamers, it's a good fighting game.

[@Z1GMA12]

One of the best Fighters ever !!

[@CHA0SBLEEDS]

Haha this game was awesome back in 90's I used to play it all the time at Blockbuster Video when I didn't have a playstation. Going by the video though it seems like the ps1 version was much better. Next Review should be Tobal #1. If you like cheesy fighters that were great back in the day but not so great now... that would be one of them.

[@donfolstar]

Your grand slam Versus game could throw in Time Killers

[@Aaronage1]

Awesome review as always, you could take anything and make a good video out of it :P

[@LFiers]

@Ioselash No it wasn't more hyped, but there was still a fair amount of hype for as this guy says, its "charms". It stood out for being different and I actually loved it and played the crap out it. Actually seeing this review brings back many memories!

[@DragnSly]

O_O I could've sworn that guy said at 5:07 "YOU F*** WELL!"

[@saturngamer1997]

I want to know what is the diference between BATLE ARENA TOSHINDEN REMIX and BATTLE ARENA TOSHINDEN URA.

[@francobug]

I think you get the cut scenes in remix

[@EnigmaHood]

@Splangy1 He did underrate it. It's difficult to review an old 3D fighter by today's standards because they were all pretty bad relatively speaking. Comparing this to that crap fighting game on the jaguar with Haggis is just not fair. I think Mark is trying a little too hard to get a laugh on this review.

[@TeitiTT]

@Jerrid3 BAT was released in '94 in Japan and '95 in USA, at the time there was KoF '94, MK 3, Samurai Showdown IV, the SF Alpha/Zero Series (not to mention SSTF 2 Turbo released in '94), about the 3D fighters, Tekken was released in '95 and Tekken 2 in '96, there was also Virtua Fighter 1 in '95 and 2 in '96 and Killer Instinct for the SNES in '95 and Killer Instinct Gold in '96 so don't say "looking at it today it looks and plays bad" even back then looked and played bad...

[@champignondeParis]

@DAudIcI Made my day ! Thx man

[@cepilloTV]

On the PC version you could played as EarthWorm Jim

[@DanSolo777]

Mark please oh please review Afterburner Climax

[@SufferDYT]

hey mark do you still draw comics?

[@ABlackFalcon]

I actually agree that the Game Boy version is probably better... that game is surprisingly good, with fast-paced action. Still, the Saturn game is also decent. It's slow, and isn't a great game, but it is entertaining and funny, as the review does a good job of showing. It's okay, definitely fun once in a while... (The later 3d Toshinden games were each worse than the one before them, sadly... the first one here is probably the best. At least, Toshinden 3 is awful.)

[@roningarrison]

My friends and I will often pull out the ps1 and battle it out with Battle Arena Toshinden 2.

[@taylorangelique57]

I had this for saturn, it was cool as a kid, I think this was a prototype for soul calibur

[@gohmifune]

@1994fishcake The SS often got redone versions of PS games, this is one of them. There was a redone Toshinden 2 I believe.

[@IaconDawnshire]

I still have Battle Arena Toshinden 1 ~ 3 for my PS

[@EnigmaHood]

Mark, this game isn't the original Battle Arena Toshinden. The original didn't have the cheesy cutscenes, but in all fairness almost all voiceacting back then was cheesy. Hell to this day Virtua Fighter 5 STILL has cheesy voiceacting. This wasn't a game that was so bad it's good, it's actually a decent game. It's just a shame that it never really came into its own after the PS1/Saturn era like Tekken and Virtua Fighter did.

[@TeitiTT]

@TeitiTT I just noticed I put Killer Instinct as a 3D fighter sorry about that mistake...

[@FilBack]

he he, I had this for the PC. Quite fun! lol

[@cartmann94]

Now, Toshinden URA for the Sega Saturn. It's just bad. They used to joke that URA stood for Ugly, Repetitive and Awful.

[@Ioselash]

I find it hard to believe reviewers actually hyped this more than Tekken and Soul Blade back in the 90s. Or so I heard.

[@riskvideos]

Did he review Evil Zone? It's about as cheesy as BAT and equally enjoyable.

[@goodguyty]

Heeey, Pit Fighter was actually a fun game back in it's day.

[@xenkaroshi]

used to play the PS1 version. These games are hard to find though.. Have some version of the second game in the series for ps1. had the fourth some years ago as well... he fourth is actually a "good" game :P

[@Rationalific]

I remember this for the Playstation...but I thought there were some awesome super moves or something.

[@ItachiYGO]

i have toshinden 3 for PS1.. that game is actually a good game surprisingly. it also looks almost a generation apart from this one in terms of graphics

[@xSycoClanTVx]

lol Jose in Mexico? theres a bunch of them

[@chinonononozu]

at the beginning of this video I thought we were getting another reviewer

[@DraculaDemonoid444]

I used to call this game Ballerina Toshihiden

[@xXMXxUNLIMITED]

@ThePsychoguy well said men, the music was awesome,

[@JBAsamim325]

2:42 reminds me of Ike's taunt in SSBB... xD

[@Killerbrew]

Does a 10 pound bag of flour make a huge biscuit??

[@solidcake2998]

''Eehg dos not metter if ye get perpes!'' LOL

[@Xegethra]

i dont think this game is at all too bad. its nice for a game that isnt obnoxious and takes itself too seriously

[@knightofhell7890]

i had this for ps one and it was fun

[@4utox3c]

ive had this game:D mondo was my fav :D

[@PBrousse]

lol best cutscne ever made!

[@EnigmaHood]

@TheThrashAnvil Except those games were crap, while Battle Arena Toshinden was pretty good back in the day. Mark is exaggerating because he didn't play this back in the day (n00b I guess). But IMO, this game was more fun than Tekken 1 or Virtua Fighter 1. Those series didn't become much better until their respective sequels came out.

[@KTJohnsonkidThunder]

Cool. Though, i've only heard of the first Battle Arena Toshinden game. -kid thunder

[@alupihan]

my god, the voice acting.