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Classic Game Room reviews the Xbox 360 HD-DVD Player that plays HD-DVDs (remember those?), the format that lost out to Blu-Ray which is losing to the Internet which automatically loses to 8-track cassettes.

[@Lugmillord]

Wow, now you can watch all 15 HD-DVDs in existence accompanied by the sound of a vacuum. :D

[@lunethspark]

lol

[@HowToX]

***** 475 different HD-DVD titles were released in the US.

[@Lugmillord]

***** I don't know anyone around with either a PS4 or XBox One so I can't answer you that noise question.

[@starhuskygamingx1334]

+GRiZLOC the Xbox one is super quite and I'm a ps4 fanboy but my ps4 is quite loud

[@HuntersMoon78]

+Lugmillord Can use it on the Xbox 360 S which is super quiet

[@GreenNinjaTea]

Oh god i once saw this at a goodwill. I thought it was a bootleg console.

[@GreenNinjaTea]

Wouldnt you know the answer

[@SwordofKings]

***** h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-hi t-t-t-t-tomoko

[@anymoose]

get a room you two

[@GreenNinjaTea]

Anonymous 2 tomoko's having hentai lesbian sex? Sign me the fuck up.

[@trickster604]

+GreenNinjaTea thats hilarious!

[@AllieRX]

Microsoft didn't have a lot of faith in HD-DVD. If they did, it would be built-in to the Xbox 360.

[@Sjono]

They wanted to keep costs down because they couldn't go price themselves the same price as PlayStation and succeed back then.

[@GreenNinjaTea]

Naw they just added it at the last second

[@mryan89]

Or maybe it was because the 360 was released before HD DVD? Because that's exactly what happened. Also, why can't my PS1 play DVDs?

[@real_Pinoy]

@@mryan89 PlayStation one can't play dvd only PlayStation 2 can but why didn't Xbox 360 include HD DVD inside Xbox 360 but please don't say to keep costs down cause if that were the case then why does Xbox o one S have 4K BluRay player inside

[@mryan89]

Hapa man never said anything about keeping costs down, HD DVD was released in 2006 and the Xbox 360 was released in 2005. Microsoft is a large and powerful company but I doubt they have access to a time machine. My line about the PS1 was a joke because it was released in 1995 and I thought DVD was released around 1996 at the time. According to Wikipedia it was actually 1995 too!

[@ianquyck9834]

I'm glad I ain't the only one who still loves Laserdisc

[@stonent]

I own Hunt for Red October on LD, but have no player. I bought one once, used but it had rattling parts inside it, so I returned it.

[@officialtk53]

Same, I have a Laserdisc player back at home.

[@The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane]

Films I currently own on HD DVD are: -Goodfellas -Unforgiven -The Fast and The Furious -King Kong (2005) -300 -Transformers

[@GeoDelGonzo]

I bought my entire collection when the stores were getting rid of HDDVDs and man - do I have an awesome collection. Like Omega Man on HDDVD or Forbidden Planet. I really liked the menus too and they felt way friendlier than Blu-rays. Still love my HDDVD collection.

[@LaVeyCharkusVeros]

My only consolation is knowing that all girls in Playboy's 1992 Video Playmate Six-Pack laserdisc are now 40+ years old. (And now I'll pretend I didn't say that...)

[@MrJimbofox]

Bro I love your show but "a marginal improvement over DVD"? Going from 480p to 1080p and dolby 5.1 to dolby 7.1 (uncompressed) is "marginal"? I still use and love my HD-DVD player. I don't see any difference in pic quality between it and blu-ray.

[@LaVeyCharkusVeros]

R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy (1931-2015).

[@GrainJB]

Good stuff! As a compulsive collector, my HD-DVD players and discs will be treasured forever, along with all my other dead video and console systems. See what I did there...

[@BossZnakemaster]

I remember reading a review of this when it came out and while the PS3 had an amazing clarity in its blu-ray image the HD-DVD addon for the 360 didn't provide the perfect sharp image that consumers were really hoping for and for the value you were getting it was incredibly overpriced. It got a 3 out of 6. I only remember seeing it once in a store, but knew it would be gone pretty quick. Seeing as how this player only added the ability to play HD-DVD movies and games for the system still needed to come on DVDs. While PS3s had a built in blu-ray player which allowed not only for playback of blu-ray movies, but allowed games to come on blu-ray discs. So while games like La Noire, Dead Space 2 and Rage all have multiple discs that require you to change it during the game the ps3s blu-ray capability made so multiple discs wasn't required. If the Xbox 360 had come out with a built in HD-DVD player that even if it was a mediocre player like the addon it would have at least cut down the need for multiple discs on 360 games by allot.

[@Harrison101HD]

LOL, A Playboy Laserdisc!

[@Harrison101HD]

I'm only 22, I'm far too young for that! ;)

[@spiff2268]

Harrison101 Oh, Harrison, my boy, you are probably too young to remember the days that when you wanted porn you actually had to slink into that back room at your local video store. A shame, really.

[@Harrison101HD]

Haha, I hear many a story about those times!

[@Bert439]

spiff2268 Luckily my pop had a a playboy collection

[@deadguy718]

laserdisc is love. laserdisc is life.

[@brandonevans9342]

Sony won with Blu-ray because they took the hardware loss and sold ps3 at a loss for a few years. for the first couple years a ps3 was a basically a blu ray player with free built in. game system. they did the very same thing in 2000 with adding a DVD player to ps2, back when a home DVD player cost 300-400 for an entry model.

[@KnuxKitsune]

"Bad marketing! Not enough repeating letters in the name to make it catchy, so it's been replaced with HHDDVVDDBVDs!" -Sarge (Red vs Blue)

[@rickysport156]

Looks like a baby xbox :D

[@stridermt2k]

"Van Damme on laserdisk I win at home video" super lol I love this channel

[@GeekCritique]

I haven't even watched yet, but I favorited and liked just for the sheer hilarity of you actually reviewing this thing. I can only hope you try to play Truxton on it.

[@EpicGamerWinXD69]

Good one!!!!!

[@saysbadman]

What's cool about this add on is that it can plug in and work in windows! I already have a few (~20) hd dvd. So I bought a xbox hd dvd player (~$12) in order to back up my collection, and also preserve the movies as the hardware will get harder and harder to find. Im ripping them then I'll compress them.

[@worldgate989]

The only difference between bluray and hd-dvd is, dvd's have 15GB per layer at 3 layers, bluray uses 25GB per layer for 2 layers.

[@worldgate989]

***** But they were close to releasing it. So sure why they didnt exist at the time...

[@Hobojo153]

Blu Rays wear also scratch resistant.

[@vtnwesley]

***** Absolutely. They tested that scratch proof layer on DVD-Rs for a while but no one would pay the higher prices. I miss them so much and cant get them anymore. I think they called it Durabis or something like that, but it's just standard on Bluray.

[@Hobojo153]

vtnwesley It was the main reason I got a Blu-ray player. Well before I got my PS3.

[@MrGencyExit64]

Yeah, let's not forget the blue wavelength laser... _"the only difference"_ :P

[@kei_nishimaru]

In hindsight, the player makes a damn good optical drive for PCs with no drives, cheap yet awesome.

[@Berettadv]

I don't know what happened to me... I swear I used to love Tobuscus ... and Smosh Games... and Syndicate... like 5 years ago... Now... this is the only gaming channel that I still like anymore. Maybe I am just becoming an asshole.

[@ivanrzhanoy9389]

Or maybe this is the best channel in the universe :)

[@Berettadv]

Yea... idk I am just getting tired of all the thousands of "let's play" channels out there. I am not saying that they are bad people, but I do feel like they are not putting nearly the amount of effort that CGR or a lot of other channels provide.

[@Berettadv]

***** lol true. It still amazes me how this channel does not get as much attention as some others though.

[@gamerguy425]

I think what happened is you must have exceeded the age of 12 at some point during that 5 years

[@tribemaster101]

Glad. Almost all other channels are the same. Some dude playing a mainstream game for some minutes, while shouting and saying lame jokes about it.

[@slade307]

I have a dual format Blu-Ray burner/HD-DVD-ROM drive on my PC. I mainly got HD-DVDs of movies that were not on Blu-ray at the time - Forbidden Planet, Excalibur, Smokey and the Bandit. (All on Blu-ray now) I also got season 1 of Battlestar Galactica (reboot) for $10 on HD-DVD. I got a few used movies through Amazon for like $4 or less. The clearance prices are less common now. I added the XBox 360 HD-DVD drive so I could watch the discs on my TV. My drive only came with King Kong. I didn't notice the noise problem, but I was also seated in a normal living room setting. I've read that the drive can be used on a PC, but I haven't tried it yet. I did have a LaserDisc player and about 250 discs. All sold now. The format lasted from 1979 until about 2002. I used an old Magnavox player back in 1979. I pretty much lived at the TV store next to my parents store. Surprised I was never kicked out. :) ...being 10 years old at the time. There was a disc format war back then too - LD vs CED. CED was basically a video LP - Yes, let's use a needle instead of a laser. Oversimplification but it was a type of needle being used on CED. There was also VHD that I don't think ever got sold outside Japan - never made it to the US anyway.

[@randmiller88]

I still fire up my Toshiba HD-A2 every once in a while. HD DVD's greatest advantage was that it was a region-free format...but the scratch-resistant coating on Blu-rays is a nice feature too.

[@Sjono]

The PlayStation 3 is to thank for the death of this atrocity and the HD-DVD format in general

[@Sjono]

No PS3 is the major catylyst that spurned other businesses to drop support for HD-DVD. It sold at a faster pace than 360 since launch in 2006, the same point when BD movies outsold the HD-DVD movies. In fact at the end of its first year it sold 10.5 million compared to the 1 million HD-DVD players. With so many Blu-Ray players already in people's houses it started the movement for people to drop support for HD-DVD and shift towards Blu-Ray.

[@goldenheartOh]

Actually, Sony offered Warner Studios, (I think it was them,) a 500 million dollar "incentive package" to release their movies exclusively on Blu-ray. It was shortly after they accepted when Toshiba and the HD-DVD group gave up. The war was neck & neck until Disney tipped it a little in Blu's favor, but it was Warner going exclusive that finalized the format war. Warner had more rights to far more movies than any other studio at the time.

[@Sjono]

Warner Bros switched exclusively to Blu-Ray in Jan 2008, but they were doing multiplatform the year earlier. At that point it was clear HD-DVD wasn't going to survive, the damage had already been done and was irreversible. Blu-Ray movies outsold HD-DVD movies 2:1 in North America and 3:1 in Europe. With more players, retailers, distributors, and applications supporting Blu-Ray all throughout 2006-2008, it would be crazy to back Toshiba's side. With everything going against it was inevitable they had to give up

[@Sjono]

What does overtaking an old format have to do with anything? That still doesn't take away the success Blu-Ray had, and there will always be a need for physical media 

[@roronachan7772]

All hail the ps3

[@jorgecalvo594]

I bought one back when the 360 launched, I really thought it would triumph and beat bluray, the reason was simple, it was cheaper, much like the VCR, and at the time the loading times for hd dvd were much faster than the first gen bluray drives. But this time people wanted fancier tech. Different times, different standards

[@blaketindle4703]

The Xbox 360 looks like it’s on life support with the HD DVD Add-On. Just like the Sega Genesis with the Sega CD and 32X.

[@PieStudios]

Independence Day on LaserDisc? *MY LIFE IS COMPLETE*

[@solofalcon]

Mark have you forgotten how noisy the Dreamcast is, the 360 is a mouse compared to that Rocket ship.

[@AndAbel-AOD]

no

[@banj0smah0mie]

Still use this beast as my external DVD drive. It may suck, but for $4 I'm willing to live with it.

[@Bounty2223]

Let's be real, Blueray won because of porn, not because it was build-in the PS3, nothing else, nothing more.

[@theadventuresofee8666]

We have a 360 HD DVD player too! We still use it from time to time.

[@GonzoDuke]

I still use it. I bought every Harry Potter HDDVD they had out at the time for 3 bucks when Circuit City went bankrupt.

[@PixarMan2001]

The remote looks like a bottle of lotion.

[@DannyGruesome]

PixarMan2001 for your pleasure.

[@weirdgamecollectorsfrommar9040]

A nice little piece of xbox 360 history. Still got my original drive.

[@imrustyokay]

I have an old XBOX 360 from '07 and it plays my Doctor Who DVDs just fine. Even my recent ones.

[@skabcat242]

Ah laser discs. I remember renting those back in the 80s.

[@SonicGTR]

Mark mentioned Double Impact. Time to go rewatch the TX-Sector pinball machine review again.

[@Fleshaga]

As the whole business agreed, HD-DVD had better picture than Bluray. A free opensource format, shot out by JVC/Toshiba Fun fact, flip a HD-DVD disc upside down and you have the standard DVD version of the movie. It failed because Sony had the Bluray in PS3, cheaper than any Bluray or HD-DVD player AND you get a console. Sony won. Sadly.

[@074nathan]

Luckily

[@GraveUypo]

what killed hddvd was warner dropping support for it. it was the last straw that finished off the format. pity, it was more promising than bluray (and actually better for video because of the way better standard codec)

[@haroof]

Yep. I always thought my HD-DVD movies looked better than my Blu-ray movies.

[@Sjono]

Sadly? Would you want to continue using multiple discs on your consoles since many games today exceed the 30GB limit of HD-DVD?

[@voltz15]

***** I thought it was Wal-Mart that put the final nail in the coffin?

[@The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane]

I still own an HD DVD add on for Xbox 360 since Christmas 2007.

[@gedaman]

I was so disappointed watching Next (2007) in the theater. I was the only one there…

[@raidensnake9471016]

That must have been awkward as hell O_o

[@IntyMichael]

While you mentioning SACD. That format was removed by Sony from the PS3. Very clever as they invented that format by themself. And I'm glad that I could at least swap all my Warner HD-DVD's to Blu-ray.

[@CptKennyLoggins]

First HD-DVD movie I purchased was Army of Darkness.

[@OptimusGamer1981]

I miss the Sega Channel that was the best thing ever when I was a kid.

[@Cellfix]

I would love to have a laser disc player Mark, but unfortunately I don't have fans that love me like you :/ We love you Mark, never leave space, because earth isn't good enough for awesome people like you :D

[@videogameobsession]

The Colecovision was SO close to having a LaserDisc add-on in 1983, but the gaming market tanked and so did Coleco's plans. I actually had money set aside for it. We ended up buying a regular LD player instead.

[@theodorerelic2718]

Yyyup, still have my Laserdisc hooked up, ready to play. In fact, about a month ago I went to a local antique mart and found a Compleat Tex Avery set, with every MGM cartoon he did, just 5 bucks. And then watched every cartoon on all 5 discs!

[@imrustyokay]

vhs is not crappy

[@digitalblasphemy1100]

I remember when the HD DVD came out, i saw the rack in target had a bunch. The top of the rack said for xbox 360 so I didnt realize you needed this extra player. I wasted money on a few of them and then called xbox. They were like, "Yeah, it should work" damn dirty bastards

[@RyanMartinez]

I had a copy of "300" on HD-DVD/DVD once. Sold it when I could before it lost all value. I never got to play it in a HD-DVD player. Why did I have it then? I ordered the plain DVD version and they packed the HD-DVD version which thankfully was dual sided HD-DVD and DVD. So, no biggie. It was interesting to behold though. Red transparent case, smaller than your average DVD case, pretty much got the same literature as a DVD copy, the HD-DVD side was more "holography" than a DVD.

[@brk1988]

Despite the success of the internet, Microsoft continues it's legacy of dvd players with the Xbox One. Good for them for keeping the spirit of watching dvds alive because it sure as hell doesn't have any games. Props to em!

[@Sjono]

All Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible with DVD though.

[@ListerST0RM]

Yes, yes he is.

[@brk1988]

I appear to have struck a nerve with bitter xbox one owners. I'm so sorry. That your console. Is garbage.

[@ListerST0RM]

Fractal Lad I don't have a lot to complain about mine.

[@Paskiewicz1985]

Fractal Lad I love your icon! :D

[@rmgb-tv]

This thing is worthwhile if you pick it up cheap with a big job lot of decent films like I did. I've rewatched some of my HD DVD collection recently, including the Bourne trilogy and Goodfellas.

[@johneygd]

The Hd VDV drive for the xbox 360 becomes the mega cd addon of the mid- 2000.

[@dante224real1]

when "norbit" is your company's go-to advertising campaign movie in the front of every HD DVD pamphlet, you know you've hit rock bottom. i love how sony's big advertising campaign right now is still the blu ray of paul blart 2: the clone wars. they never learn, and i can't stop laughing.

[@clydemarshall8095]

Have you ever tried listening to the Classic Game Room intro sped up by about 1.5x normal speed? It sounds amazing.

[@Rando1975]

The Killer on Laserdisc! Awesome Mark!

[@BlueLightning26]

Had no idea that this thing even existed until today.

[@bh1992]

TIME COP on laser disc was Awesome back in the day.

[@alastairward2774]

If you're annoyed about the sound the xbox 360 makes, the xbox hd dvd drive is Windows compatible, so you can plug it into a PC. Y'know, the same machine you're using to torrent all those same hd movies.

[@wright96d]

Too bad there's no software to play them.

[@spongebobsshoe2538]

+wright96d torrents or the HD DVD? Either way I'm sure it isn't anything VLC can't handle

[@wright96d]

***** I like menus with my optical media.

[@spongebobsshoe2538]

+wright96d VLC doesn't have that? Damn. I don't mind when it comes to menus as long as I can see the movie

[@neko_samurai]

They really messed up by not including the HD-DVD drive as the 360's default drive. A lot of people at the time who weren't even into gaming picked up a PS3 because it was the cheapest way to buy a blu-ray player in those early years. The 360 heavily outsold the PS3 till just about the end of the generation, it HD-DVD could've won the media format war at the time off built in sales there alone, but even if it hadn't, having the drive built in would've allowed for more disc space with less video compression than the DVDs used in the end. Oh well.

[@TotalMK]

Still have my HD-DVD Player and all my HD-DVDs. I thought the player performed well as an Add on. The price was fair but as you said, when it came out Bluray had won. It always annoyed me, I liked the HD-DVD Format more because they were going to NO REGION CODES which is a definite win when dealing with imports, but you all voted for BluRay and now you have to put up with those shitty Region Codes for a whole lot longer. :P

[@alastairward2774]

I thought the region free aspect for hd-dvd was just temporary till they got traction and they'd then introduce it. Or perhaps I'm wrong.

[@RobertK1993]

Blu Ray mostly regional free now this statement is misleading.

[@saxxymanene]

I have a great idea. Lets make a Blu-ray Laser disk! so we can play movies at higher resolutions!

[@KurisuYamato]

The sheer amount of data you could store on one of those.... oh man, that would be fucking AWESOME!

[@thealambrix]

I'm sad, because the HD-DVD doesn't play Laser discs :(

[@segaofmyhouse]

I bought a brand new copy of the Big Lobowski on HD-DVD a month ago at a local thrift store for $1. What a great film, a shame about it being on HD-DVD though.

[@gzsfrk]

Because griping about noisy Xbox 360s ISN'T a topic that was worn out nearly a decade ago. And for the record, the sound and picture quality of HD-DVD isn't a "slight" improvement over standard DVD; it's a huge step up that's on par with what you get with Bluray today. Also, the primary reason Bluray won out was because of Disney going exclusively BR. After that, it was a war of studio attrition that HD-DVD was destined to lose.

[@PartyMarty321]

blu ray is horrendous imo

[@Godslayer1975]

Matt Williams its fact also porn was only to be on blu-ray also and i am sorry but there is a god dam huge industry called porn and that added to it . but this jerk off does not explain nothing he says the net killed it lol he is a dumb twat that has no facts just opinion in his video , please don't support this junk or use ad block for garbage and lies or half truths like this

[@darthhull85]

Matt Williams Didn't the Blu Ray disc offer 60gb of storage compared to like 30gb on the HD Dvd?

[@Danbotology]

I'm just thankful they didn't start making Xbox 360 games that could only be used with the HD-DVD drive, á la Nintendo's 64DD.

[@RonRose]

I never got into HD-DVD. Now that I've seen some of the titles it offered I'm kinda disappointed that I didn't. Sure it's a dead format, but hell, I collect laserdiscs, VHS and betamax tapes. Plus as far as I know there isn't a blu-ray release of Streets of Fire (one of my faves) coming anytime soon even though it's been long available on HD-DVD. I've read on a few sites that the HD-DVD release of Superman The Movie is slightly better than the blu-ray, as well.

[@diogoleonardo7848]

I still in love with my old laserdiscs

[@NinjaxShadowXx]

John Woo's The Killer on laserdisc!

[@paianis]

I was able to rip an HD-DVD with this thing through MakeMKV in Linux. Good thing too because the Blu-ray version of said film has lesser-quality audio tracks.

[@tyrionlannister2354]

Laser disc covers were pretty rad. Like vinyl LPs but with video.

[@kascnef]

This was the first video game console to support hd movies a year before ps3

[@Nukikero1337]

Didnt even know what HD-DVD is lol

[@Soonjai]

It´s like DVD, but in HD!

[@Juice8767]

If I could see 2 minutes into the future I would be MLG in a day.

[@JeffisWinning]

It's attack of the laser discs! 1980's style.

[@ThePSXcollector]

Back to the future on Laser disk! that's all win right there!

[@Lynxan]

I've currently got about 50 HD DVD movies, mostly gotten after the format died and the movies could be gotten for a few bucks and got the player when it was 50 dollars with King Kong and half a dozen more movies for free, so it was a good deal at the time, still think it is fine as long as you can get movies for it. I'll have to try playing regular DVDs in it again as I was going to use it to play regular DVDs to save the motor of the system it'self when playing them, but found that it wasn't working at the time, it's been years since I have tried though.

[@MrProphase]

I bought a couple of these drives. Before I acquired a PS3 and after it was announced Blu-ray would be the preferred physical format used by all the studios, HD DVD prices just dropped off substantially...creating an opportunity for cheap entry level HD format movies...However, I've basically switched over to digital only these days. Stupid format wars...😄😉

[@Segasocks]

I still use my hddvd player to play regular dvds as it has a superior upscaler to the 360 although it has playback issues with a ton of hd movies from Warner Entertainment

[@apemoon1731]

I didn't know this even existed.

[@worldgate989]

"Marginal performance over dvd" Really... did you bother looking up anything on hd-dvd before making this video?

[@thatguyontheright1]

It also needs to play CED along with D-VHS, and Betamax, and Laserdisc.

[@willt6494]

It's weird that dark red (Something associated with the PS3) was HD DVD's case color. While blu ray was... well blue.

[@316whatupz]

Holy smokes! Reviews within a review. Man, my head is spinning now. Some kind of CGR-ception going on here.

[@TackyRackyComixNEO]

You know your format is doomed when you have to stoop to using Norbit to advertise it.

[@cjg725]

I actually still have a 360 HD-DVD player and a few HD-DVD's. Of course it's not connected, not worth the space it would take up. I was such a sucker and bought a bunch of HD-DVD's so I also have a hybrid blu-ray/HD-DVD player. It still works, but like the HD-DVD player it's not connected anymore.

[@CRAZYHORSE19682003]

I also disagree with your statement of two crappy tape standards, Beta and VHS. Brand new tapes on a quality VCR had a better performance than we remember. Obviously inferior to Laser disk and all the digital formats that followed but for the day they were decent.

[@inamv873]

My favorite part of cgr is seeing mark trying to put things into things they're not soposed t go in

[@Darklordsidius_JC]

Blade Runner on my Xbox HD DVD is what it's all about!

[@advance9343]

Who would ever want to watch a movie on the 360 anyway, with all the fan noise

[@Mr.Everything]

If this functioned as a stand alone HD-DVD player that becomes more immersive when connected to the Xbox I imagine it would hold a bit more value and I'd definitely want one since I don't have a stand alone DVD player, just a plethora of consoles to get the job done. It would be cool to just have on the shelf as a stand alone device to play DVDs (because the red HD DVD cases feel like a alternative reality or 3rd world country's version of HD video) but since you have to connect it to an Xbox that already plays DVDs I'd have no use for one, other than to say I have a mini Xbox if I ever found one cheap. Microsoft should have made an Xbox 360 that size which would be really cool, or instead of releasing the ugly Xbox 360 E, made it fit into the casing for the warehouses of HD DVD players they never sold.

[@Darkest_Soul_187]

I had no idea laser discs existed!

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9802]

I remember when Porn companies said they were going to go HD-DVD and everyone on the internet said HD-DVD would win the format war because of that. Too bad now nobody gives a shit about porn on a physical media.

[@CRAZYHORSE19682003]

I am surprised HDDVD lost the format wars with Microsoft backing HDDVD. If the XBOX-360 had a built in HDDVD maybe the outcome could have been different.

[@tHaH4x0r]

so, when is the best of classic game room coming out on laser disc?

[@vesselinkrastev]

That thing is bigger than my PS2 slim. I wonder why it ended up being so huge. I have an external USB DVD drive and it's about the size of an old discman.

[@KurisuYamato]

The tech of the time. Even though the player just gets the disc data and sends it to the 360 to process and render, it's still pretty "new" tech for its time and as such it just wound up being really bloated in engineering - I have an Toshiba A2 HDDVD player and it's bloody huge due to the drive and the CPU-esq motherboard to do all the work. Let's not forget it's a standard sized optical drive base in there, for the same general reasons. Think about it, it's a decade later, things do slim down.. remember the size of the PS2 back in the day, the original model, that slim is due to advances in engineering and design since the original release. Something about me kind of loves the fact that my A2 player is so massive my blu-ray player could fit into it probably 8 times over. It's crazy, but hey, I like it.

[@brostenen]

I suddenly got this urge for laser disc.... Laser.... The urge on a disc. Nono... Not that disc. (Insert big phat laser disc irony smiley)

[@FinderofNemo]

I completely forgot HD-DVD was even a thing, jesus.

[@festushaggen2563]

I still have one of these. Best paper weight I’ve ever owned. This is why I don’t gamble. I was given 50/50 odds and chose the wrong 50. Oh well, lesson learned.

[@ferarribrown5752]

Just bought one at pawn shop for $19 CDN with a bunch of movies. The picture quality is fucking great as with the audio. The kicker is the menu options as the movie is being played. Like a blade that slides from the side or fr the bottom. Awese i sayy

[@danielnegron8803]

Why havent a future revision of the 360 like the slim and onward havent put an HDDVD drive??? It would be nice to have it even if it got cancelled