Classic Who "The Creature from the Pit" Parts 3&4 Reaction

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[@lucasdolding6924]

1:28 It's alright, you don't need to say anything, we've all already made jokes about that for decades :D

[@ryanpollard1166]

I still find it hilarious that after the VFX department's attempts to make Erato's appendage less phallic, there's absolutely no erasing that image of Tom Baker grasping Erato's protuberance and giving the end of it a damn good blow. I'm still amazed that they got away with that in a family show of all places and I bet Tom Baker deliberately did that on purpose!

[@ImpossibleCaseEdits]

Tom Baker was, in fact, imitating popular dog trainer Barbara Woodhouse who would blow down a dog's snout.

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

“I’m not saying anything!” Plenty of fans have 😉 Perhaps the Doctor just knows a method to communicate with certain species.

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

“The Thing-ey!” I recall in The Beatles “Help!” that George Harrison when he couldn’t describe an element of the danger the Lads were in, exclaimed “It’s a fiendish thing-ey!” Truth

[@stickytapenrust6869]

6:10 - they had two K9 props. A plastic shell with no internal workings for on-screen carrying. Then the radio-controlled one, which was quite a bit heavier, about the same weight as bedside drawers or a small coffee table.

[@kemmdog4444]

Geoffrey Bayldon,who plays Organon, was one of the actors who were up for the role of the First Doctor.

[@silverwolf3745]

Geoffrey Bayldon was also the lead actor in the Catweazle TV series.

[@Concreteowl]

"it looks a lot smaller here"... Well in its defense the cave was kinda cold.

[@Stuart_Cox1969]

There is a clip of Tom reacting to "that" bit, very funny.

[@peternolan5501]

I think this video just created a new go-to gif for those 'OH MY!' moments.

[@spideyfrommars9218]

Calling Lady Adrasta “what’s-her-fuck” 👌

[@basildon9008]

You’re gonna love reacting to ‘The Daleks in Colour’ They re-edited it down into a feature-length, with new music and everything!

[@Wannabe_Baby]

She's seen the full original version. I don't think she needs to watch a cut down version with choppy editing and music that doesn't fit.

[@GoodKingMort]

@@Wannabe_BabyI think it would be a good watch nonetheless! It’s a fantastic production.

[@joshuaverran9443]

Why would she want to watch something that's made by a man whose trying to destroy Dr. Who by putting his modern political agenda in considering what he's doing to Davros is wrong.

[@tokublwhovian]

@@joshuaverran9443​⁠​⁠You’re on the wrong channel, Jess doesn’t welcome bigots. So find a channel that accepts your nonsense or keep your mouth shut.

[@mikalmos369]

​@@GoodKingMort"fantastic"...ok...but you left out clumsy and misguided...or rushed perhaps first draft...

[@TheElderBlotch]

Organon is one of those examples of a delightful side-character elevating an otherwise lacklustre episode. Some guest stars just click with Tom Baker with joyous results. For me this story's biggest mistake is that it kills off Adrasta way too early, then scrambles to come up with plot to fill out another twenty minutes and as much as I appreciate the message/mystery of the ugly, murderous cave monster turning out to be misunderstood and benevolent, I think Star Trek did it first and far better with the Horta in 'The Devil In The Dark' (knowing this fandom, saying that is probably tantamount to heresy).

[@alexbruce9499]

Devil In The Dark is for sure a better story than this, but it is a common plot in Who and sci-fi in general. Galaxy Four comes to mind as a similar "the ugly monsters are actually benevolent and the beautiful people are the real bad guys" plot and I'm sure there's plenty of others.

[@idrishall6126]

Compare story similarities to FAR POINT

[@jcortese3300]

If I'm any evidence, there's more overlap between the two fandoms than a lot of people may realize. 🙂 Been a Trek fan since WAY back, but I really like this story as well, green glowing phallus aside. I love when Adrasta takes the translator in her hand and is condemned in her own voice. I think that's a REALLY neat touch.

[@GeoffreyBrundell]

Love when Lady Adrasta says in a angry voice (point the dog at the rocks)

[@kant12]

This is a fun story and I kinda love these early ones with Romana 2.

[@kemmdog4444]

There are two K-9’s in this story, one with all the electrics inside and one hollow one to be carried.

[@whobp8]

Your opinions on this story and the previous one are pretty much the same as the majority of fandom's. And your analysis does make sense, a weak story can appear even weaker when it's following right on the heels of a really strong story. The radio controlled K-9 was quite heavy, but they had a light weight prop version which they used whenever he had to be carried. This works better when whoever is carrying him acts as if he's heavy, cuz when they carry him too easily, it gives the game away a little. Erato is supposed to be amoeboid, so his size and shape are fluid, which is why he looks bigger in some shots and smaller in others. The rather phallic nature of his pseudopod caused much hilarity amongst the cast and crew and was changed between studio sessions, but the footage of the Doctor trying to communicate via the original, erm, thingy, was already recorded and remains in the episode for better or worse. 😂

[@jacobhogan3208]

I didn’t expect to wake up to this this early.

[@tideoftime]

1:28-1:48 Gurl... some things just gotta be left alone... Lol ..

[@joshuaverran9443]

This a guilty pleasure of a story.

[@adampoll4977]

It's a much maligned story of Doctor Who and the Baker era, but you have to admit it's a lot of fun, even if some is unintentional. And it's always a joy to see Catweasel again.

[@idrishall6126]

I believe this classic who story is yet another example of something American TV shows took ideas and inspiration from, for all those STAR TREK next gen fans out there, we see in this story too many similarities to the TNG pilot episode FAR POINT, even the concept of the creature communicator design

[@scottboswell6406]

Thinking THIS story has points that inspired the Star Trek:TNG pilot is giving this wayyyyyy too much credit. On the other hand, this has story points done in the "Devil in the Dark" story from Classic Trek (misunderstood creature moving around underground, mistaken for a monster, etc.).

[@Wannabe_Baby]

"How heavy do you think K9 is?" That was my EXACT thought when Romana picked him up! He looks bulky and he is remote controlled, so you'd think he'd have a bit of weight to him. I agree with pretty much all of your post-episode thoughts. For a story called "The Creature from the Pit", I thought the creature was the least-interesting part.

[@neptune04]

I remember reading somewhere I think it was the Tardis wiki that Timelords were generally stronger than humans.

[@highvoltage7797]

I can’t wait for season 18 tbh.

[@KentuckyBrad]

Probably the worst season in all of doctor who

[@highvoltage7797]

@@KentuckyBrad Mhm sure bud whatever You say 🙄

[@joshuaverran9443]

I love season 17 but each to their own.

[@highvoltage7797]

@@joshuaverran9443 I love City of death and I like Shada. Tom and Lalla are great. But season 17 is such a parody of itself imo. And while that can work with its stronger material with the weaker stories not so much. Douglas Adams works in small doses. The effects also take such a hit this season as well. Not the shows fault it was the late 70s. I feel like this is the worst elements of the Graham Williams era which I think is already Toms weakest era.

[@robertmcghintheorca49]

Since it was the 60th anniversary, would you be up for a rewatch of "An Adventure In Space And Time"?

[@stepheng7325]

Will you be reacting to the 75 minute, cut down version of the Daleks (In Colour) that was just released?

[@alexlee2237]

This story isn’t the best Doctor Who has ever produced, but there are some great performances, particularly Lady Adrasta and Organon.

[@knavehart]

Season 17, especially after City of Death gets a bit of a bad rap for being silly and self indulgent, but I love it, maybe just for that reason. Especially in light of modern sci fi's trend to gritty and grim. Doctor Who, right up through the modern age, manages to keep it's light.

[@scottboswell6406]

One of my problems with this story is how screechy the 'main' villainess was, but all the greedy, stupid people left behind were worse! The tumbleweed 'wolves' are my worst creatures ever! They did try a different story structure and Tom Baker's humor are the best parts about this.

[@KristianDavies-tm3dv]

Doctor who anime full 12 years ago

[@1rhpsfan]

3 More to go.

[@Reppter66]

lmaoooo

[@mikalmos369]

I think this story gets far more hate than it deserves. Erato is probably far too ambitious of an idea for the special effects Department but that's not the first time that Doctor Who has bitten off more than it can chew budgetary wise and it's one of the things about the show I've always loved. I think the modern era loses something by the amount of money they can throw at their problems and often suffers for it with every crisis having to be bigger and bigger with nearly every episode threatening the entirety of existence which honestly is not where the show has ever excelled at.

[@ladycplum]

This is not a very well-liked story among most Whovians. Organon is a great character, and Adrasta is sufficiently menacing, but the rest of the cast...especially the bandits. Notice when K9 stuns one, he actually turns to find a comfortable position to land in instead of just dropping to the floor! And they couldn't be more stereotypically Jewish if they tried. Plus, David Brierson's K9 voice is just not match for John Leeson.

[@GavinBollard]

It's not a great story and the creature design is not very good either ... but there's no doubt that it's memorable.

[@SuStel]

It's a mediocre plot with a lot of good characters. An inoffensive episode but also forgettable.

[@Jaketherobonrd]

Honestly this story is really dull after part 3 it’s really uninteresting.

[@moviesrocks2]

for me this is one of the worst stories from classic who. i didn't like city of death, but it is regarded as one of the top stories in all of Doctor Who history. All a matter of opinion. not sure if this counts as a spoiler or not, but the rest of the stories this season, in my opinion, don't get much better. have fun with the next few

[@ianweech]

Destiny and City are the best in season 17. Creature bad, but in a funny and enjoyable way. Nightmare is campy and low budget, but I enjoy it. Horns is one of the worst doctor who stories, and one I tend to point to when people complain about the Chibnall era. The other story I tend to show people to make them realize that the Chibs era isn't all that bad is The Twin Dilemma.