Classic Wrath Unholy DK DPS Guide (PvE)

[@digitalskill]

Definitely gonna need you the closer ClassicWOTLK comes. I main DK in retail but never played one back in original WOTLK as a kid, so it's gonna be a whole new world for me. Thanks for these videos! Cheers ^^

[@CrixGuides]

Yesss! Finally now I can DK! Keep it up and thanks so much!

[@Jesus-bs5fl]

This is exactly what I needed. Thanks Rugs.

[@emirbatinyilmaz]

Great Video ! Im waiting for Frost Dk Guide too :)

[@XxLyrokxX98]

love how you introduced metorite , I see so many unholys rather going FFF instead of this blue trinket , to bad.

[@lulomg1]

Would be nice to see what the "normal" rotation is aswell :)

[@TimothyMonley]

Fantastic guide mate, well done, super helpful, no fluff.

[@relensha7804]

Great guide! 1 comment i need to make is in the consumables section (because this is for wotlk classic) most people use warcraft logs especially if you're in a good guild and due to a change in warcraft logs if you use a battle chicken the logs will become invalid and youre guild will not want you using it. in tbc our engineers are currently supper POed about this. only reason i bring it up is its BOP so alot of serious people will go gnomish for the battle chicken and then swap to goblin for sappers and itll waste time/materials to get this item

[@aaronlimmer146]

This guide was a godsend. Thank you Rugs!

[@Olivier-iv1mf]

Excellent video ! It's a must have ! Very nice work, thanks !

[@hullunakki5482]

Been playing DK past 13 years. This video is realy good reminder how to play in wrath! Dude keep content up! If you have some realy deep Insides / Realy minor min max things , you realy should make video about it! :)

[@vaels5682]

Great guide. I think it's also worth mentioning how you can snapshot rogue tricks with your diseases. And also when to pestilence early

[@MattYackel]

Is there a wotlk dk discord or community group somewhere? Curious about where you got the sims from and would like more detailed info!

[@Rugsz]

There isn’t a discord, but I’ll continue to post DK content as often as I can as it’s my favorite class. I’ll give you guys the best answers to your questions as frequently as I can via this channel and my twitch!

[@VDA19]

Picking the Runic Power talent ( Dirge )over the one that increases Plague/Scourge Strike ( Outbreak ) damage seems weird. Isn't Scourge Strike the main attack for Unholy?

[@patrickderbakk6305]

Love the content. Thinking of rolling a DK at the start of the expansion.

[@konygodxqt]

Awesome content with really great tips for new players, keep doing it - Kony

[@bajablastre]

Do you think you could go over BiS lists for DK’s and perhaps other classes for each phase?

[@KBMinc]

Hey Rugs will you possibly go into Weak auras and addons you used in your Grobbulus Unholy dk video, or share them. (On twitch). I find a lot of them to be very well made and would enjoy using some as a base.

[@vizuvis6425]

Can you provide us with WA for tracking the procs for snappshot garg? Great video btw thanks!

[@danielachterdocht7580]

Hey Rugs, As usual, nice work! One question, aren't there 4 phases in WotLK PvE-wise? Phase 1: Vault of Archavon (1st Boss), Obsidian Sanctum, The Eye of Eternity & Naxxramas Phase 2: Vault of Archavon (2nd Boss) & Ulduar Phase 3: Vault of Archavon (3th Boss), Onyxia's Lair (Revamp) & Trial of the Crusader Phase 4: Vault of Archavon (Last Boss), Ice Crown Citadel & Ruby Sanctum With other words, you're gonna stick with phase 3 Trinkets like forever? In that case it would make me feel happier, it feels more like the Vannila/TBC progression philosophy... Thanks in advance, have a good one!

[@Rugsz]

I think phase 4 could either split into a phase 4.5 with RS or just a full 5th phase

[@Rugsz]

But ultimate yes you’ll use double DV/DC until you kill heroic LK. After that, there’s room for you to farm ICC and reassess a new meta for unholy trinkets that include the RS ones as well

[@danielachterdocht7580]

@@Rugsz Thanks a lot for sharing this. It's kinda silly and fun at the same time that so many websites are providing incorrect data. Think about it for a few seconds... WotLK is about 12 years old and there's still plenty of room to discover if it comes to theorycrafting/min-maxing. Looking forward to see more Class guides in the near future, it would be cool if you can add (pre) BIS lists for each phase and provide your thoughts about enchants as well. Cheers!

[@ryhall512]

Love watching your content man, randomly found it from the youtube algorithm. I guess because I watched some of anfalls stuff.

[@Woitseck]

nice guide! would appreciate if you would do a feral druid one, possible? :)

[@Zikkar]

@Rugs thoughts on Reaping? I remember using it when I played original Wraith. Also I am curious why you didn’t take Outbreak as it buffs Scourge Strike our hard hitter.

[@VDA19]

Yeah I thought not taking Outbreak but taking Dirge was weird too. And is Reaping really worth it just for an extra Scourge Strike? I feel like a Scourge Strike isn't much higher in DPS than 2 Blood Strikes and an extra 3 Talent Points.

[@piotrost7773]

Hey, dont really understand the tip with scripting gargoyle that meles. Does it mean, when im in melee and nuking some boss / group of mobs i should go out of melee to summon him or when some boss / group of mobs only melee i shouldnt summon him in melee ?

[@valpnosgahda4354]

Hey nice video, do u have any video with rotation macros and stuff? :)

[@Vincere1105]

How are you generating these values for stat priority? In retail it's as simple as running a Sim through Raidbots, but I wasn't aware that something like Raidbots existed for Classic.

[@Curlybrosfitness123]

Late to the video, but, is there anyway you could also put out a leveling guide for unholy DK? Specifically with talents? Maybe also do like a step by step on your rotation? Really excited about DK!

[@joshnankervis7444]

Hi mate when is the Frost Spec guide coming :)

[@LaNoches]

Heya, awesome & clear vid! Good job! One question I have though is about Wandering plague. I've read and from my own (limited) testing, it seems that wandering plague has severely reduced impact on diseases spread by Pestilence. Wandering plague would have a 1s ICD and diseases spread by Pestilence tick at the same time = only 1 shot at proccing wandering plague but also only 1 proc if both ticks crit. Do you have any knowledge on this? I tend to play with glyph of disease e.g. so does that mean I cuck myself badly by using it?

[@MrLiveYourLife55]

blood subspec, why we dont take OUTBREAK on unholy ? maybe we can sacrifice crit chance from dark convic ?? or maybe remove morbidity and take outbreak ? what u think

[@eMoRaL]

Hey man wondering if I could ask a question. Looking to play the WoTLK Classic when it comes out. I played back in the day on original WoTLK and Vanilla before this. Also the latest classic. I’m not very good at arena and like to do some casual BGs aswell as PvE content. Was wondering which you would recommend, DK, Ret Pala or Mage? Not sure which you’d say it the easier of the three and easier to master. Appreciate the help!

[@TheBlaeh]

patiently waiting for the blood video :)

[@genarogonzalez1932]

Do u have som eDK weak auras sir? i loved you videos!

[@noobnetworktv8816]

What is the normal rotation?

[@Zikkar]

I just have a soft spot for using Reaping. Is that bad. I remember using it in Wraith originally

[@Pastoreba]

Quick question, why do you pop DND 9 seconds before pull?

[@beandon24]

What’s the justification for not speccing 3/3 outbreak? I thought that was a must

[@estebancruz5381]

Hey so I've played uh dk on quite a few pservers, was just wondering what you think of insane str pot over haste pot, had a guild leader who had me farm the recipe because he said it was more beneficial for me.

[@Rugsz]

the haste pot is 100% better for the purposes of the snapshot on gargoyle. Insane strg is good, but mostly only good for really niche fights and burst windows of dmg. Even then, I'd still want to use haste pot on Unholy--I'd really only strength pot on Frost DK for fights like Hodir HM for example.

[@Classiccolin]

Rugs currently on a fresh wotlk server whats better for the first tier of raiding frost or UH ?

[@KicDash]

Frost DK guide soon? :)

[@citm7878]

Is Mark of Norgannon not good? Just thinking for Garg snapshotting it reads very good.

[@nathanielsicard]

why do you not take outbreak? what would you have to sacrifice if you did take it?

[@Hanpantheflyingman8D]

Great video, but I have some questions. Why do you take 3/3 Morbidity instead of 3/3 Outbreak, and why do you Scourge Strike before Blood Strike in your opening rotation? Should you not Blood Strike first to proc Desolation before you Scourge Strike? Thanks in advance.

[@MrBoopif]

thoughts on taking 3 points out of necrosis for outbreak?

[@turboglider505]

Hey man do you think you’ll be making one of these for Frost? I’m thinking of leaning toward that spec

[@spartakov1728]

Great video! Would be nice to see the same guide for combat rogue

[@lazarus3274]

I really like this video. I plan to main blood but I have considered taking this as OS. My question for you is twofold: 1) is this considering the Dual Wield setup that you made a video on a couple weeks ago? 2) I noticed in the stat weights you have in parenthesis (Before hit cap), what is the stat weights for hit after hit cap?

[@Lazris59]

Imposter

[@akasaylo7330]

Can you tell how to play the dual wild Uh spec? Which enchants are you using on weapon? Which Talents? Is it really better early on and when do we swap to 2hand? Would be very nice if you could help

[@Kacper-ur5uh]

This is opener rotation. Next rotation after this is ?

[@mikael1987olsen]

Great details!

[@devilbhrothesavage2807]

How much of your damage output is scourge strike/plague strike cause those 3 points in outbreak are looking super juicy. Dirge on the other hand or most points in the blood tree...

[@svilendenchev9984]

Doesn't dwarf get +5 expertise with maces too?

[@Rugsz]

yeah but there are BARELY any good maces in wrath. It's poopy

[@multiipack]

Hey mate, during the opener if none of your trinkets have proced do you hold off and wait for procs before summoning your gargoyle or do you just use it anyways with the heroism? Thanks

[@denpsycho]

verry nice guide man, can you allso make one for Blood Tank

[@Rugsz]

I absolutely will and I look forward to it

[@Jcarroll42]

Is it really worth it to use an unholy rune mid fight on bone shield instead of scourge strike to refresh it?

[@AntonioMarques]

Really great quality content!

[@miguelspincemaille9556]

I'm confused as why you apply your diseases before you go blood presence? you snap shot them with unholy presence on them which means they don't have the +15% dmg from blood presence

[@Rugsz]

We aren’t running glyph of disease so the disease damage snapshot isn’t being refreshed anyway. The unholy presence is WAAAAY better for gargoyle’s snapshot than for your opening disease snap

[@MeowMeow6118a]

why bone shield and DnD in the opener?

[@benjaminsundqvist5750]

Should you not use Blood Boil instead of Blood Strike in AoE situations?

[@jeffreyhall9274]

I'm curious, is Troll expected to be better DPS late game over Orc? I can't decide between both of the races on which to go.

[@lorecraft9883]

Awesome job thank you

[@snowkek7595]

I'm pretty sure the rune refresh mechanic after a doge, if it works properly will devalue expertise even more. I think it's just slightly off in your statweights. Sorry for the rude comments on other videos.

[@snowkek7595]

It also should be noted that if you don't reach certain breakpoints with str/haste gems str/crit should be stronger. In Multitarget fights str/crit gems also pull ahead.

[@brandNAME-dt1pj]

@@snowkek7595 If the servers are retail like. Strength/crit will be the clear winner even in single target due to the shorter fight times.

[@marc-antoinemartel4128]

nice guide! i'm getting hype for classic wotlk now :P are you planing on making other class guide ?

[@stepwes9073]

can u bring a frost dk guide?

[@mitkoshredder]

Do you have a video for frost DK ?

[@Psycrow142]

Will there be a frost dk guide going up also ? Is UH viable p1 ?

[@wth1184]

Why use dnd/army pre snapshot?

[@borisst4501]

Why morbidity over reaping? Is death coil damage that good?

[@coleamenta8299]

Anyway we can get a link to ur addons/ ui??? it's clean af

[@Hiph0pgR]

Where can I Sim my dps is there a website or an addon?

[@filipddedza]

Great video mate. Can u share your addon setups and macros please? :D

[@TheSchantz3]

Do you happen to have sim sheets for Unholy?

[@edgykiwi8399]

Would love to see something similar for Frost DK!

[@Rugsz]

I will of course! I promise you that

[@mattklomhaus1167]

@@Rugsz Was coming here to comment the same. Your vids have been getting me HYPE for WOTLK but I was sad to not see any frost stuff on your channel. Keep up the good work man.

[@poopnukem4079]

@@Rugsz Would you recommend to stick to either uh or frost throughout the expansion, I guess as they gear a bit differently?

[@Rugsz]

@@poopnukem4079 man they’re both so great and desirable. As long as Classic wrath gives us good gargoyle scripting then you can’t pick wrong. Try out both and stick with the one you like best

[@mobage9770]

@@Rugsz Looking forward to it. I've seen totally different opinions regarding Frost DK talents and stats that I don't know what to go for anymore.

[@achromatic8637]

how much do you think Darkmoon Card Greatness is gonna go for? is it worth dropping the gold on?

[@robbruh1661]

One question i have currently playing progress server t7 me and naother dk i always have WAY more gargoyle dmg better snapshots on it but he always beats me on frost fever damage and scourge strike. do note we have literaly the same gear and im pretty certain i do my rotation as flawless as possible. still always kinda weird to see he does way more frost fever damage while my gargoyle dmg shits on his

[@jaypeesan1877]

Going Unholy I feel like its my obligation to go orc despite being intrigued by that troll racial [not regen]. Is it a big difference or its mostly the same..also are there any notable differences in solo blood build farming between orc/troll/tauren?

[@aadabimfmkad6041]

does the dude with the 2hand build do more dps than this build?

[@Yren28]

can you plz make a video only about dk's rotation? :(

[@adamgrabowski938]

one question: isnt Outbreak a really good talent to use? Intead of dirge/unholy blight or BCB?

[@connorkenney6938]

RUGS!!!!!!!!! I need your help BRO!!!! I really want to roll a 2h frost DK(I know DW is more optimal) and have some questions about runes usage. The talent set up I want to run is 02/51/18, Basically UH sub set to get Blood-Caked Blade. The other talent set i was thinking is 13/51/7 to get Death Rune Mastery to make sure most of my runes are death runes (In my mind this seems like a good early expac build to make it easier to spam obliterate without worrying too much about what runes are up). I plan to roll Horde, so I'll be going Orc for the racials. Any tips would be appreciated, or even a small vid demonstrating rune usage on a target dumby. Thanks for all the vids and a happy new year!

[@brandNAME-dt1pj]

No, as frost you never go into Death Rune Mastery. If you wish to get as many Obliterates as possible which is 3x Obli. You go into the Unholy tree for epidemic (21 second diseases) which allows you to 3x obliterate without diseases falling off. In phase 1 and two you don’t take “Blood caked blows”. This is because early phase weapon dmg is trash and the Bloodsub with Dark convection and Bladed armor gives you too much value compared to minimal damage from blood caked blows in Phase 1. Alongside bloodsub giving you 2hand spec which would help with 2H frost. Depending on how talents are released, DW frost with full blood sub is confirmed optimal till around late Ulduar.

[@connorkenney6938]

@@brandNAME-dt1pj You're a legend. Thank you very much.

[@aksel9518]

can u pls send me talent tree of 2h frost dk pls Aksel#4497

[@dffdcdesacds]

no glyph of disease?

[@PrecursorLegend]

Why no Frost DK guide? :/

[@FrazierHarcrow]

What do you think about Reaping talent?

[@miryamcampos6619]

What addon use for dk

[@ohwowawesomegreat]

I'd really like to see more in depth discussion of gearing, especially t9.5 vs t10 situational use.

[@moorfiend691]

I agree with this as i will be doing Unholy DK and would like to see some pre raid bis and BiS lists.

[@Bowline21]

What does more damage 2HANDER OR DW?

[@georgepapakleovoulou2975]

Nicely done,Cant wait for frost!

[@artquote]

Hey Rugs, awesome content you have here mate! Quick question - what do you think is THE spec for leveling DK 60-70 in prepatch (if we will have this oppurtunity) and 70-80 in wotlk?

[@colinhobbs7265]

Blood, absolutely insane amounts of self sustain

[@VDA19]

@@colinhobbs7265 You go Unholy, it has twice the AoE damage Blood has, and you can tank any mob anyway as Unholy. Just go Unholy with Blood subspec and use Frost Presence and Death Strike for elites.

[@jacechan5499]

i am new to dk and praticing on Pserver atm be4 classic. wondering why unholy over forst. also worth it to go Orc over human for PVE but be not as good in PVP? i wanna do it all this time around. i missed it back in 2009.

[@VDA19]

Unholy is just better in 3.3.5 and it uses 2H, which is easier to get and enchant. You also want a 2H for tanking.

[@jacechan5499]

@@VDA19 i mean our enchant is free. how about huamn/orc for doing it all

[@akasaylo7330]

You didnt rly talk about the Rotation after the opener. Do i refresh dots with pestilence or do i use IT and PS again, somethink like this. Thx

[@Rugsz]

You’d use IT and PS again since we don’t run with glyph of disease

[@akasaylo7330]

@@Rugsz isnt it a dps los then? Better 1 blood rune instead of 2 runes?

[@alexball4187]

what private server do you play on?

[@LyricMyHunt]

Question: if gargoyle snapshots the speed from heroism/bl on the player, could technically another shaman pop another lust for the gargoyle to get the buff too?

[@TheGamerReaper]

BL gives a debuff called Sated in Wrath where you can't benefit from another BL for 10 minutes

[@LyricMyHunt]

@@TheGamerReaper Let me make it clearer. My understanding was that the player gets the haste buff before summoning the gargoyle, from which it benefits via scaling off the owner's stats. Then you summon it, has good stats and no debuff. Can you pop another one just for the pet which has no sated?

[@dominikkonig7083]

No it wont work. The gargoyle picks up the buffs you have in this moment. As you cant get that second bl, your second gargoyle wont have it

[@LyricMyHunt]

I did go ahead and test it myself, because it seems misunderstood every time. The answer is no, since the gargoyle is not a pet, hence it doesn't get the raidwide buffs such ad BL.

[@Петър-е3ы]

3/3Morbidity better than 3/3Outbreak ?

[@SamMaki]

is Tears of Bitter Anguise not better than Meteorite? Or is it clearly Meteorite is far better?

[@alexanderson3834]

Meteorite is better til you get comets trial or dark matter

[@CLTaylor311]

Looking forward to a DK Tanking guide!

[@ole2522]

i wish u did a part 2 with gear

[@Barrog420]

Iam DK player for long time too. Nice guide. Also idk why i always prefer reaping build/frost subspec.

[@brandonkruse6412]

I played an UHDK on Warmane through H25LK and one thing I have to say is how important these videos are. The amount of misinformed guides for 3.3.5 is crazy. Nothing more fun that being a DK on the LK fight 💀

[@FreekillGaming]

So whats the normal rotation? xD

[@musict6943]

you can share you weak aura ?