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@Torsk10072 жыл бұрын
I love when patton fights pattons
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
When will the Patton on Patton violence end?
@liamkurtyhnigov40642 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq very sad we should protest about this
@polygorg2 жыл бұрын
Mind you, using pattons
@shadowcat02012 жыл бұрын
And in WW2 hahaha.
@dd-579fletcherwillyd.92 жыл бұрын
Patton was so OP, he had to fight himself simultaneously while fighting the Germans
@jon-paulfilkins78202 жыл бұрын
The 'Tigers' in Kelly's Hero's remains a fine example of making an effort to get it right. A LOT of films just don't bother with anything more than painting it grey and slapping a cross on it.
@keptinkaos63842 жыл бұрын
agreed they even went as far as to cover the T34's Christie suspension...
@legion40762 жыл бұрын
*looks at furry who used a real tiger tank*
@phoenix17822 жыл бұрын
@@legion4076 its fury not FURRY
@ryanmichael12982 жыл бұрын
@@phoenix1782 I guess it depends on what kind of movie one enjoys...
@fendiputraasaprilana16672 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they paint the Tiger pink, 😂😂
@timwilliamson67042 жыл бұрын
I bet these film producers would have loved to have met that old German guy with the Panther stashed in his basement.
@aarosundvall2 жыл бұрын
Too bad the 4th reich stole it from him.
@ivanvladimir04352 жыл бұрын
@@aarosundvall Let the man have his tank
@Namkify2 жыл бұрын
@@aarosundvall Well that aswell as a working 88mm FlaK, bunch of MG42's, some other guns I believe, a few thousand rounds of ammo for everything and a bunch of swastikas aswell as other Nazi collectibles. Oh and the firing mechanism, was restorable on the Panther, as far as I read. I'm kinda glad this stuff goes to a Museum now x)
@Wallyworld302 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that tank was in Germany so it wouldn't have helped them filming in Spain.
@Lecruque2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a wet dream such a collection… The tank had no tracks though.
@usarmy5002 жыл бұрын
When I watched Patton I was like wait a minute those are all American tanks
@Abensberg2 жыл бұрын
no you can clearly see the iron cross... those are TIGERS!!!! definitely!
@MorrowindES172 жыл бұрын
PATTONS VS PATTONS LOL at least there did a good job on the uniforms and guns for the time it came out.
@KapiteinKrentebol2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the movie was about the tanks, not the general.
@FUBAR-20232 жыл бұрын
The Germans did capture several Shermans and used them against American forces!They called them Beute Panzer(Trophy Tank).Granted these are Patton class tanks that weren’t in the service till the early 1950s!
@rkie19122 жыл бұрын
SUS
@MrTJPAS2 жыл бұрын
The Spanish Army Tank Corps: "Are we finally going to see some action?" Higher ups: "Nope, some movie needs you to pretend to be the Axis powers from WW2 again. Better get to painting those tanks once again." Spanish Army Tank Corps: ".........."
@terribleauthority2 жыл бұрын
Knowing Spain under Falco, the soldiers were probably more than happy to participate and there were a few WW2 veterans who relived their glory days.
@victorfinberg85952 жыл бұрын
@@terribleauthority Falco? You mean Franco?
@terribleauthority2 жыл бұрын
@@victorfinberg8595 Apologies, yes, Franco. I will now listen to "Rock me Amadeus" as punishment.
@terribleauthority2 жыл бұрын
@@victorfinberg8595 Much obliged.
@SuperPickle152 жыл бұрын
What they get for being an axis netural in ww2.
@grahamh37962 жыл бұрын
In the Bridge Too Far clip that shows tanks moving away from camera the last tank has its track off the ground. The Brits and their cunning use of decoys.
@HollywoodMarine03512 жыл бұрын
This was taken from IMDB… “The producers were only able to locate four of the many Sherman tanks seen on the screen. The rest were plastic molds set on top of 88" Land Rovers. Volkswagen Beetle chassis were used for German Kubelwagens. The tank treads didn't reach the ground, but the movie is edited so that this isn't noticeable (except in the section after Elliott Gould cries, "Roll the fuckers!") there are shots of the tanks rolling over the bridge. One tank is seen silhouetted against the background and its tracks are clearly not moving as fast as they should be if the tank were real). At about fifty-seven minutes into this movie, as the Shermans are heading up the road, the last Sherman seen (the fifth one) is floating a few inches off the ground. If you look quickly, you'll just see the rear left wheel from one of the Land Rovers.”
@colinbarron42 жыл бұрын
@@HollywoodMarine0351 The Sherman that crosses the Bailey Bridge (scene with Elliott Gould) is a fiberglass replica. The reason for this was that that bridge was not strong enough to take the full weight of a real Sherman.
@freebeerfordworkers2 жыл бұрын
I never noticed that but I did notice the ground attack aircraft used earlier looked like Harvard trainers.
@colinbarron42 жыл бұрын
@@freebeerfordworkers They were converted AT-6 aircraft made to look like Typhoons. The 'P-47 Thunderbolts' which appear early in the movie in an airfield scene were also converted AT-6s. Some AT-6s were also modified to look like Fw-190s but they don't appear in the final cut of the film.
@blitzpixgarage33192 жыл бұрын
secret british WW2 hoovertank
@josevictorionunez93122 жыл бұрын
Hollywood in the 1970s: Spain, I am one again asking for your tanks
@DomWeasel2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere a Spanish soldier complaining that the only thing they ever did in the '60s and '70s was portray extras in Hollywood movies, either as WW2 forces or Roman legions. 8,000 Spanish infantry portrayed a Roman army in Spartacus for example.
@JackDrinkn2DollarJim14 күн бұрын
The series "Rat Patrol" used a lot of the same Spanish equipment.
@highadmiralbittenfield96892 жыл бұрын
I know it's not a WW2 tank, but Red Dawn convinced me there isn't any excuse for poor mock-ups. They made a mock up of a soviet tank (I think a T-72) out of a bulldog so convincing that they got a visit from the authorities to ask them how they got it.
@picklerick87852 жыл бұрын
What I find hysterical as a former artilleryman is the exact same echo explosion sound effect used in literally every movie from this era, along with the “bullet ricochet” sound.
@LordVader10942 жыл бұрын
It's always fun for me, those sounds hold a lot of nostalgia lol
@picklerick87852 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 They even show up in spaghetti westerns too. I don't know who recorded (poorly) the "artillery sound" originally, but I think it shows up in the 1950s. It's the Wilhelm Scream of military movies.
@bobcohoon96152 жыл бұрын
Sound dept is supposed to do this, but they didn't fuss too much with it. In Jurassic Park, they had trouble trying to come up with convincing dinosaur sounds, and used all kinds of sounds to try and do it, even blending them together. I always find it a joke when they show a 75mm or 88mm shell going off, and it looks like some big fire crackers tied together . The real thing was not like that, just look at actual footage from WWII
@leebh86072 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 True, its fun to hear actually. I don't mind if they were used over and over in older movies.
@justjosh112 жыл бұрын
It's like the Wilhelm scream that you hear in many, many different films going back to at least the original star wars, all the way up to modern day.
@red.54752 жыл бұрын
I used to watch these movies as a kid in the '80s, and this was the thing that bothered me the most. God bless you, sir.
@Staravora2 жыл бұрын
Same bro, when I realized they were all American tanks I was like that's so dumb lol
@calvingrondahl10112 жыл бұрын
I saw these films in theaters when they were first released. My father was a Combat Infantry Scout in the 95th Division 3rd Army. Dad received the Silver Star by order of General Patton for the Battle of Metz. General Patton pinned Father’s Combat Infantry Badge on him. Father passed away at the age of 90.
@oldmanriver19552 жыл бұрын
The scene where he jumps on a tank and directs traffic actually happened. I read his book and he relates this tale with the added authority of being the driver of the tank Patton stood on.
@princeofcupspoc90732 жыл бұрын
So, another probably fake post about the poster and not the content. Just checking.
@backrowbrighton2 жыл бұрын
Really pleased you did this video. I am an older type and remember seeing all these films at the time of their release. My friend was a keen builder of model tanks and pointed out all the substitute modern designs in the movies. It was interesting that 'Kelly's Heroes' which was really an action comedy caper strove for such historical accuracy with its vehicles. The producers of all the films listed still did a very good job with what was available to them at the time.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! These films are slightly before my time but I still recommend younger people watch them. They hold up very well.
@sqike001ton2 жыл бұрын
Historically accurate yet some how an American GI in France is using a Russian sniper rifle I guess it's possible a German sniper picked up a mosin on the Eastern front and choose to bring it to the Western front when he was reassigned which I could see it was "better" than some German snipers which were DMR optics pressed into sniper rules which German snipers hated but then why would an American choose to use it as his primarily weapon he has no way to resupply ammo I'm a gun guy and I his has bothered me since I first watched them move as a kid I was able to put together that the Russian in enemy at the gates were using the same rifle as in my favorite move Kelly's heros
@a.m.71652 жыл бұрын
@@sqike001ton I'm always wondering how things like this slip through, yet It's always things like this that are criticized in movies. Kellys Heroes is pretty old, maybe that's it but it wouldn't have been so hard to find an M1903 or something and even nowadays film studios get it wrong.
@steveonmareisland52682 жыл бұрын
@Peter Walsh Kelly's Heroes was shot in Yugoslavia, whose army, fortunately, still had actual Tiger tanks in some units in 1969.
@DomWeasel2 жыл бұрын
@@steveonmareisland5268 Yugoslavia never had any Tigers. The only other country other than Germany to use them were the Hungarians who received thirteen examples. France and Romania used a couple of captured models briefly. Tigers never operated after Germany's surrender in 1945 and the only operational Tiger left is 131 which was captured in '43 in Tunisia by the British. Yugoslavia after the war only ever operated American or Soviet models of tank. Syria used Panzer IVs after the war between 1950 and 1967 and France used captured Panthers until '49.
@comentedonakeyboard2 жыл бұрын
Given the dificulties (or rather imposibility) to get historical acurate tanks, this sort of inacuracy is excusable (others aint).
@trazyntheinfinite98952 жыл бұрын
Plywood?
@comentedonakeyboard2 жыл бұрын
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 a solution? A realistic one on top of it? How dare you!😀
@thoughtengine2 жыл бұрын
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 It still costs more, because you have to get someone to actually make the mockups out of the plywood, and also there is only so much you can do with plywood, many of these shots aren't just backgrounds but are the hero shots, which would show up the limitations of the plywood until the audience were rolling in the aisles.
@dd-579fletcherwillyd.92 жыл бұрын
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 only for faraway and static shots. Not much for moving tanks tho. Also, when you shoot a movie on foreign land and knows that it's a high-budget film, some of the locals can be quite snarky by overpricing materials to get some of dat sweet dollar
@legendaryexplorer81192 жыл бұрын
You could always make a replica
@orange84202 жыл бұрын
Top 10 anime fight Patton VS patton
@NumptyGrumble2 жыл бұрын
Remember seeing the T34/85s in Cross of Iron for the first time, made an impact seeing period armour in a film at that time.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Love Cross of Iron
@pnutz_22 жыл бұрын
it's sorta-period armour, but having the russians be armed with equipment they got the year after the battles were fought is a pretty good attempt
@anthonymunoz60133 ай бұрын
The Germans loved captured t 34 when they could get them. I was watching a vid on YT where they were recovering a T34 and when they finally got it far enough out of the lake it was in and it flipped back over, low and behold, it had the iron cross painted over the star.
@nomorerepublicans8252 жыл бұрын
"Not always easy"? Realistically probably not even a priority. Production teams probably figured moviegoers wouldn't know/care. You forgot the decent audie Murphy flick to hell and back using ridiculously bad stand-ins for the famous German towed 88s. Btw, I always care. One reason I love saving pvt. Ryan so much, the extreme attention to detail
@PauloPereira-jj4jv2 жыл бұрын
That P-51 in the end is an exception...
@skybuprofen98342 жыл бұрын
@@PauloPereira-jj4jv and the fake Tiger, but SPR was before 131 was running, wasn't it?
@nomorerepublicans8252 жыл бұрын
@@skybuprofen9834 yes fake but they clearly made an effort to make it look real, not just paint an American tank grey or slap some oatmeal on it to look like zimmerit
@PauloPereira-jj4jv2 жыл бұрын
@@skybuprofen9834 ....yes, it was. But the Tiger/T-34 was nice anyway and it took sometime for me to note the difference. Imagine that scene with an Abrams....😂
@PauloPereira-jj4jv2 жыл бұрын
@@nomorerepublicans825 ...yes, much better.
@Ralphieboy2 жыл бұрын
There is a scene in "Patton" during the Battle of the Bulge where you can briefly see an authentic vintage Sherman M32 tank recovery vehicle roll by in the background.
@Pershingtank2 жыл бұрын
Also check out the soviet "Liberation" films of the late 60s/early 70s. Especially the first one, which is based on Kusrk, dozens and dozens of tanks on set! Granted, there's a lot of T-55s and T-62s in background (and sometimes an IS-3 in foreground!) but they did have some nice looking mockups of Tigers based on T-44s. (In my opinion, T-44s and T-55s make a better basis for mockup than a T-34, since they're larger and with a more central turret). Funnily enough, I've seen more than one documentary convert some of that film's Tiger footage into black and white to try and pass it off as real footage.
@Tookan692 жыл бұрын
IS-3? Time to check one out
@mrmakhno30302 жыл бұрын
@@Tookan69 in the Reichstag scene. You can find that "Tiger IS 3" in the Great Patriotic War video of Mauzer.
@Pershingtank2 жыл бұрын
@@Tookan69 At the very end of the first film (about 88 minutes in) several cross right in front of the camera, behind the T-34s. there's also several IS-2s doubling as Panthers, though they're a lot less convincing than the T-44s-as-Tigers.
@Kon_Chen_i2 жыл бұрын
In "they fought for motherland" was used T-55 too. Pretty common situation.
@Goran11382 жыл бұрын
Most ironically, that in the early film "Stalingrad", wich was maked when Stalin was alive, there are was really outstanding job with German and Soviet armor. There are even was natural Pz 38t. Later in the 60-70s almost all capured German armour was lost due to the different reasons. And T-55/62 started to play german armor in different war movies. Also BTR-152 very often played role of the German halftrack APCs, despite the fact, that it had only wheels)))
@mikegeorge81322 жыл бұрын
“You go into filming with the tanks you have, not the tanks you might want or wish to have at a later time.” ― Donald Rumsfeld
@thekhoifish01462 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been funny to include the Kelly’s Heroes from Girls Und Panzer
@kamikazefilmproductions2 жыл бұрын
No...
@m22locust422 жыл бұрын
@@kamikazefilmproductions yes
@J-dogd2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@J-dogd2 жыл бұрын
@@kamikazefilmproductions yes
@kamikazefilmproductions2 жыл бұрын
@@J-dogd no
@johnmuir85152 жыл бұрын
Oddball is the greatest American tanker of all time. He was the only person thinking strategically holding his unit in reserve in case the Germans launched a counterattack against Paris or possibly New York.
@ImmortalSugimoto7922 жыл бұрын
Italy was definitely the recipient of the biggest upgrade going from M13/40s to M48 Pattons.
@mikebrase51612 жыл бұрын
I used to do German WW2 reenacting. Got to do several events with the Saving Pvt Ryan Tiger. The best mod I've ever seen was the guys in Colorado that built a Mk IIIJ long barrel on a M-113 chassis. Videos of it are on KZbin.
@ismaelbutt51052 жыл бұрын
60s and 70s ww2 movie producers be like: You have the choice, either Patton or pattons
@muffininc.4642 жыл бұрын
People love to talk about actors with great range, yet always forget to mention how many roles the Patton has played!
@rfletch622 жыл бұрын
The Collings Foundation in Stow, Mass. has reenactments in the fall. They usually have a very convincing Stug III for the op force, with M-4 and M-3's. Wish they could get their Panther running.
@bbb462cid2 жыл бұрын
My old company was affliated. The Collings is a little bit still reeling from the loss of Nine O Nine (and the people on board) I shouldn;t wonder.
@folgore12 жыл бұрын
For enthusiasts in Europe, the Royal Tank Museum in Bovington, UK has "TankFest" during the summer! When I saw it, they had their Tiger I participate! Rather ironically, there were more British re-enactors dressed as G.I.'s rather than as British soldiers!
@Soundwave35914 ай бұрын
I honestly credit all these classic war films with building up my interest in military history, and from there history overall. Plenty of memories in this video.
@hughledger78352 жыл бұрын
Has no one else watched the German soldier get hit and run over by a tank in Patton? 1. He went under chassis not a track. 2 in El Guettar battle.
@sjonnieplayfull58592 жыл бұрын
Heard others about it before. Some say it was an accident, the guy did not realise the tank was THIS close, others say it was staged because a second shot was much closer, so either a cameraman was keep to notice, or it was indeed staged. Sure as hell impressed me watching it as a kid
@Willysmb442 жыл бұрын
The bottom line, it's what they would have on hand. That's why Kelly's Heroes was so freshingly accurate for most of the vehicles, as the Yugoslavians had T-34 Tiger mockups left over from a previous movie filmed there, and they were NOT cobbled together originally for Kelly's Heroes
@RealKull2 жыл бұрын
"Battle of the Neretva", probably the most ambitious and expensive movie ever filmed in Yugoslavia.
@VersusARCH2 жыл бұрын
@@RealKull Yup. (although no Tiger tanks were used during the actual Battle of Neretva, but hey - if Hollywood can have wild imagination...)
@tihomirrasperic2 жыл бұрын
In the first days of the war in Yugoslavia 1990 the young Croatian army had 15 Sherman tanks and Soviet T-34s pulled out of the museum and re-armed opposite them, the Yugoslav Army had T-55s and T-72s After the action "Flash" and "Storm" in 1995 Sherman tanks and Soviet T-34s have been returned to museums
@michellesheppard92532 жыл бұрын
@@RealKull I thought it was The Battle of Sutjeska that was the most ambitious and expensive. Oh well, different sources say different things.
@pedrorocha48172 жыл бұрын
Paraguay still use some M3 Stuart tanks during ceremonies.
@rileyhofman80272 жыл бұрын
1:41 i burst out laughing seeing the ''italian'' tank that looks nothing like a actually ww2 italian tank
@rcgunner70862 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Italians WISH they had those things!
@davidcouch65142 жыл бұрын
1 Forward and 18 Reverse Gears.
@SirAntoniousBlock2 ай бұрын
Italian tanks were riveted together, very noticeable.
@GannicusMisteriosdeHonduras2 жыл бұрын
My boy Johnny once again with them good movies, weird movie details and the like!!
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
I got you bro
@MorrowindES172 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Just found your channel good stuff bro watching every video.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
@@MorrowindES17 Thanks brother! It's a working progress and still relatively new so I hope to up the production value for you in future videos :)
@chris.37112 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: General Patton actually had a very high pitched, almost feminine voice, not the deep and resonating one like people imagine..
@KapiteinKrentebol2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and he was also much more slender build. I guess someone saw George C. Scott in Dr. Strangelove and thought we should make a Patton movie with him as Patton which couldn't be further from the truth. It's like having 1980's Arnold Schwarzenegger play Abraham Lincoln.
@Panzer-5352 жыл бұрын
i've heard that about other famous Generals/Leaders too, how movies portray them aren't always accurate. George Washington comes to mind
@lautarogomez97112 жыл бұрын
Really?.
@chris.37112 жыл бұрын
@@lautarogomez9711 There is an interesting video of Patton giving a speech. Give it a listen, it'll shock you.
@einundsiebenziger54882 жыл бұрын
@@KapiteinKrentebol Now I can't help but imagine Lincoln giving his Gettysburg Address in Schwarzenegger's Austrian-German accent.
@PauloPereira-jj4jv2 жыл бұрын
In many cases, this was the best they could do. Since it was very hard to find original German vehicles and there was no CGI. How many times we saw Texans (T-6) being used as "fighters"? Or Japanese Zeroes? Even when they had original planes, like the P-47s in "Fighter Squadron", the results were inaccurate for various reasons.
@stripemcr57222 жыл бұрын
The soviet ww2 movies made in the same time period had much more authentic vehicles, and they also had to modify some of their tanks to make them look like krautz.
@rring442 жыл бұрын
There are some really great Soviet WW2 movies and some not so good ones. Check out this movie even though there are no tanks. It is a legit 10/10 movie and you will cry your eyes out. If anyone watches it, tell me what you thought of it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpfJpXuBm5Zpaqc
@johnjones_15012 жыл бұрын
The Soviets also had a bunch of tank regiments that used captured German tanks. I wonder if any of those ever go used in their post war movies?
@stripemcr57222 жыл бұрын
@@johnjones_1501 if the soviets were using a German tanks it must to happen during the Reichs push to the east when the reds were short on equipment, which also means that most of them would be destroyed in combat.Once the Soviet started counterattacking they would already be deploying their own made tanks plus Western lend & lease vehicles
@einundsiebenziger54882 жыл бұрын
@@stripemcr5722 ... were using *German tanks ...
@spikespa52082 жыл бұрын
Soviet movies could use genuine tanks, like the T34-85, because they still had a ___load of 'em in reserve storage. Along with their client states.
@rcgunner70862 жыл бұрын
When I was younger it bothered me that they just didn't use period tanks. That changed after I finished my tour in the Army. Now I love these flicks! The M47 and M48s are some of my favorite tanks and it is so cool to see these dinosaurs doing their thing, even if it is just a movie. These old movies are almost time capsules for Cold War tanks. I get to see tanks in action that were just gate guards or memories of my old NCOs. Unwitting vessels showing historic AFVs from the late '40's to the 60's. I WISH they would have made WWIII movies set in the '50's in Germany with the things!
@ddraig19572 жыл бұрын
In the 1960s French film ,Is Paris Burning ?,set in August 1944,the French Forces are equipped with a lot of genuine Shermans,M8 armoured cars and US half-tracks.Sadly when German armour is portrayed,it appears as some very unconvincing mockups.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
ah good addition! I wish I had added that one.
@alessiodecarolis2 жыл бұрын
Effectively the German pzs seems some M24(french army had a lot)
@phantomaviator13182 жыл бұрын
Shame France didn't keep the Panthers it kept after the end of WW2. Would've been great for movies
@AtheistOrphan2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw that one recently. The ‘German’ tanks are M24 Chaffees.
@altermannjapan2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I think M24 acted as "Panther" with Zimmerit Coating
@DavidCowie20222 жыл бұрын
A lesser known Arnhem film is "Theirs is the Glory", a dramatised documentary filmed *on location, in 1946.* I'm willing to make a small wager that the Tiger tank is the real thing.
@rijkemans51142 жыл бұрын
What I find inexcusable for thát movie though, is that they destroyed some diesel train sets. Imagine the war is just over. The country is in ruins, a lack of everything. And a few of the remaining (operational!) train sets are sacrificed for a MOVIE.
@jamesturner96512 жыл бұрын
People always bitch about the Pattons. But I’ll give it a pass considering those are Spanish Army members(?) and actual serviced tanks. The fact that they’re real and those are real effects of the “explosions”. Just coordinating that in person must have been an effort all by itself.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. If you want a real war experience go to war otherwise the production companies do the best they can.
@KapiteinKrentebol2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, today it would be CGI. Well Fury had authentic tanks but that movie was so so.
@Pershingtank2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and Battle of the Bulge in particular tends to get unfairly shit on in this regard. The film does of course, have far more significant problems than the "Actor tanks," but a lot of people talk about it as if it were the only movie ever to use anachronistic , un-mockedup tanks. The M47 does at least have a vaguely similar shape of turret as the Tiger 2 if you squint at it....unlike the even more modern looking M48s in some of these other movies :P
@danielmp20852 жыл бұрын
There's a BBC documentary about 1960s Francoist Spain were they show how the country is and when talking about the spanish army they are on the 'Patton' movie set. There's some interesting shots of spanish army officers (with spanish uniforms) giving orders to their soldiers dressed as americans.
@orange84202 жыл бұрын
Nowdays trying use CGI but with historical accuracy Russian film espescially highly accurate i saw a movie made after ww2 ended
@HollywoodMarine03512 жыл бұрын
The 1955 Czechoslovak war film “Tanková brigáda” (Tank Brigade) used a variety of authentic armored vehicles used by both sides. It includes Russian T-34 and T-34/85s, as well as German Panzer IV Ausf. G, Sturmgeschütz III and a Schwimmwagen.
@einundsiebenziger54882 жыл бұрын
T-34s of several variants were in numerous Eastern Block countries' arsenals until the mid 1970s. No problem to get a few for filming back then.
@randomdogwith3ginternetacc9962 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this from very long 😄. Finally. Great video :D
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked sir!
@randomdogwith3ginternetacc9962 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Loved it. I'm saving to my Playlist as well 😊❤️
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
@@randomdogwith3ginternetacc996 My man
@rolfagten857 Жыл бұрын
I came across a fact, something cool. In the productions :"Force 10 From Navarone" (1978) and "The night of the Fox" (1990) we see the T-34/85 because they are Yugoslav / British productions. Not entirely wrong because the Wehrmacht sometimes deployed a captured T-34.
@AtheistOrphan2 жыл бұрын
1950s film ‘Ice Cold In Alex’ starring John Mills not only features Germans using unmodified M3 half tracks in 1940 (before America joined the war) but also Germans using 1950s British Centurions. Furthermore a land rover (first produced 1948) features in the very last scene.
@russellmay73472 жыл бұрын
GD POINT and a reasonable film !! PLEASE CHECK OUT "TANK FORCE" 1950's VIC MATURE LEO GENN AND ANTHONY NEWLEY ALF BURKE AND OTHERS !! AN ON SCREEN CREDIT to CARABENIERS R.SCOTS GREYS (APOLOGIES IF IVE CREDITED WRONG REGTS!!) CLEARLY TRNG in LIBYA !! MEGA FOOTAGE of CENTURION MBT COMETS ETC BONAR COLLEANO A USA actor also stars (it took me a couple of viewings LOL...to I.D. HIM ) LEO GENN was a barrister PRE war and RA OFFR ! CHECK OUT "RED BERET " OR "PARATROOPER" with ALAN LADD ( BR. PARAS AS MAIN TROOPS AND EXTRAS) ANYONE KNOW TRNG AREAS WHERE it was Filmed ???!! Cheers guys!
@paddycoleman14722 жыл бұрын
The Spanish armour of the time must have spent most its life in German livery! 😀
@battlejitney21972 жыл бұрын
My favorite part in Battle of the Bulge is after Telly’s Chaffee gets half the turret blown away and he rolls up in it’s scorched remains, holding the .30 cal. Such a comic book moment.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant scene!
@douglasdaniel45042 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Unfortunately, my suspension of disbelief has never been quite the same after that scene-- the crew should have been a thin red coating on the interior of what was left of the turret, but realism wouldn't have served the plot, I guess.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasdaniel4504 haha you are certainly not wrong. I just like the reaction and look of the crew.
@davidcouch65142 жыл бұрын
I think it’s when Dano steps up forward you can see the turret mess disclose it is rubber.
@einundsiebenziger5488 Жыл бұрын
... in its* scorched remains (it's = it is) ...
@benjaminadamonis28702 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else see a guy that looks like gordon ramsay
@iamahumanoid34832 жыл бұрын
One of the most ironic things about The Big Red One, is that the concentration camp soldiers are either mostly or entirely Israeli soldiers
@SaveThePurpleRhino2 жыл бұрын
I bet not many european comfortable playing concentration camp guard in israel
@thebeast84292 жыл бұрын
Any footage involving that topic is played by them lol even the "real" footage used to brainwash people
@iamahumanoid34832 жыл бұрын
@@thebeast8429 I’m not even going to begin to engage with you on that topic
@thebeast84292 жыл бұрын
@@iamahumanoid3483 You can find proof of it, its just buried lol I'd understand if there wasn't clear as day proof available
@FokkeWulfe2 жыл бұрын
@@thebeast8429 so to be clear, you're saying that Holocaust footage, footage of Jews in concentration camps, shows Jews in concentration camps..... man. Thank god you were here to suss that out.
@rutabagasteu2 жыл бұрын
One of my uncles walked out of the Bulge movie. He was in Patton's Third Army and said they didn't just give up and walk away.
@gregking34033 ай бұрын
Most of that movie was not grounded in reality. Pieper's lead panthers, not tigers, were stopped west of Stoumont on a curve. Like 4-5 panthers were knocked out in less than 1000 yards. Piper figured right then to go back to la Glaze. There's a marker there and description as the longest point reached in the battle. Fuel also was a issue. No tigers were burnt by tons of gas rolling down on them! More tank crews survived than did not. Pure BS.
@rutabagasteu3 ай бұрын
@@gregking3403 I was just posting my uncle's reaction. I know it was mostly nonsense.
@kyledunn68532 жыл бұрын
Seen all except Tobruk
@johnnysswordandshieldhdcli87302 жыл бұрын
I'm going to surprise you on at least one in the next video.
@kyledunn68532 жыл бұрын
@@johnnysswordandshieldhdcli8730 I doubt that
@falloutcosplay88022 жыл бұрын
This is the type of video I live for I work at a military antique store and Museum and I'm always telling the boss about movie inaccuracies i studied film and television for 3 years as well
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
It's a fun exercise, and for me, doesn't take away from the movies that are otherwise well produced and acted.
@falloutcosplay88022 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq exactly right shows that you're learning things as well being able to point out things like buttons and vehicles because of your video I went back and watched Kelly's Heroes
@SuiGenerisMan2 жыл бұрын
What a great idea for a channel. I absolutely love the history of ww2 behind closed doors, like prelude to war, Munich talks, "sitzkrieg", featuring high level political leaders and everyday people reacting to the onset of war,,trying to prevent it,, escape it, prepare for war.....just love that stuff but there's so little content I've found.. Impossible to search for so I welcome recommendations. Also, French occupation, French resistance and Vichy France are woefully uncovered topics in both documentary & films. Battlefield series and World at war are still the very best ww2 docs ever made imo
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Thank for you for the great feedback! My next video will be on the occupation of France so stay tuned 😊
@rolfagten8572 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Dear Mr. johnson, and what about the "-Sherman -" mock up tanks from "Die Brucke" (1959) "The Bridge"
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
@@rolfagten857 Good mentions! Sorry I was just trying to focus on some of the big Hollywood classics in this one. More German films to be covered in the near future. :)
@manweller12 жыл бұрын
All of these films were a must watch when I was a kid. Then we would act them out at school the following day. Good days ❤️. Thanks for the trip down memory lane
@RealKull2 жыл бұрын
It was the same for me in school in the early 80s...back then in Italy Video Cassette Recorders were not very common, so basically every household watched the same movie the evening before...
@shadowtrooper2622 жыл бұрын
There are numberous Chinese civil war movies where Type 62 tanks were used to convert themselves into M26 Pershing tanks. They are actually pretty decent mockups.
@bobcohoon96152 жыл бұрын
For old Sherman tanks, there is " Tank" with James Garner ,who plays a sergeant major with a personal restored early M4. A very good story to it. There is also " The tanks are coming " , a 1950's story of a tank group operating in Europe near end of WWII. All done with authentic vehicles, still in use in the 1950's, even a Sherman tank recovery version, and an M26 Pershing at the end
@yesyesyesyes16002 жыл бұрын
The best scene was when the "hooker" fired the Cal .50 machine gun into the woods. Imagine the projectiles coming down like artillery shells in a nearby village ... oh my god 🤣
@georgeh.72382 жыл бұрын
That M-4 that was in Tank with James Garner is now on display at the Marine Corps Museum at Quantico Virginia in the "Pacific Theater" Exhibit Hall.
@leebh86072 жыл бұрын
Tank is the movie which I fell in love with the Sherman. Feel so badass driving the Sherman across the state serving out some justice until it got damaged and stuck in the mud
@dirufanboy19712 жыл бұрын
Wow. The Wehrmacht was so advanced they used tanks that hadn't even been invented yet! Crafty Germans.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
obviously their time travel tech was more advanced than we realized
@Hamchunk19682 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq 😆
@stevemorton45932 жыл бұрын
Watch a lot of ww2 movies growing up. Its amazing how few Sherman tanks were in all those movies even in old black and white movies.
@randomobserver81682 жыл бұрын
My fave was the use of T34s for German tanks in "Force 10 from Navarone". The producers had to do something- German iron wasn't lying around in quantity or useability anymore. More modern US tanks were big enough and intimidating painted sand or grey. I guess the producers of Force 10 couldn't afford that, and lord knows old T34s were a dime a dozen as late as the 70s. In that film, the Yugoslav partisans looked more heroic if given no tanks of their own, so what were probably Yugoslav Army T34s were repurposed as panzers. Pre-internet, only vets or the geekiest of geeks [that was me then] could tell or cared, and suspension of disbelief came easier then, at least in movies, if not life.
@MrDgwphotos2 жыл бұрын
@@mdlbldr45 Captured tanks in German service were known as Beute Panzers. (A Bergepanther is a recovery tank based on the Panther hull.) Captured tanks were used on occasion by most armies of WW2, though less common by the Western Allies than the Soviets. I have heard of at least two Panthers used by the British, and the French did use a fair number of Panthers both during the war and after. The Soviets did use captured German tanks in quantity, and even converted Panzer III hulls into the SU-76i. Japan used captured M3 light tanks that were captured during the Philippines campaign during early 1942.
@grantm65142 жыл бұрын
I loved these war movies as a kid, but I must admit the substitute tanks and half-tracks spoiled a lot of them for me, as did the T6 Texan/Harvard trainers standing in for just about every type of single engine fighter - suspension of disbelief is difficult when you're 14 and you know that's completely wrong. So sad that when hollywood finally got their hands on a real, original, working Tiger I, the movie they produced was complete and utter shite.
@user-go1sl6rd7u2 жыл бұрын
@@myopinionbetter4287 yea movie could've been a lot more considering the cast they had, action wise I felt it looked really good with all the tracers and cool effects tho. Hopefully we get to see more of the 131 in future WW2 films as well
@spikespa52082 жыл бұрын
At 14 I was able to discern why they used replacements (money, availability) and just enjoyed the films. I knew that functioning Zeros, BF 109's, Tigers, Panthers, etc etc weren't exactly a dime-a-dozen.
@DomWeasel2 жыл бұрын
@@user-go1sl6rd7u American World War 2 films always fall into the same traps. It's always the 'War is Hell. What the hell are we doing here, sarge?' conversation, the SS showing up like a demonic legion and an obsession with there being a last stand, no matter how illogical such a stand is, with the group of characters we've come to know getting picked off one by one.
@AndrewAMartin2 жыл бұрын
@@DomWeasel There's also the trope of a disparate band of misfits coming together despite their differences to defeat the much larger enemy force...
@DomWeasel2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewAMartin While this actually happened due to the nature of conscription, bringing together men from very different backgrounds, it's really annoying when each man conforms rigidly to a stereotype; the big guy, the psycho, the cold sniper, the medic with his heart on his sleeve, the kid etc.
@nicolaandria5222 жыл бұрын
To be honest, German or Italian tanks of WW2 were almost impossible to find in running order already in the 50s, the French army used Panthers for a brief period after the war and some Panzer IV went to Siria, but as a general thing almost all were simply scrapped in the 40s apart from a small number "saved" as museum pieces. The good attempt in "Kelly's heroes" and the much less good attempt in "A bridge too far" are exceptions, the M47 was plentiful in Europe, as well as the M24, and an attempt to alter the appearance of the Patton to make it more "square" probably would have been as bad as the Leopard 1 in "A bridge too far" and too expensive to do in several tanks for mass scenes.
@einundsiebenziger5488 Жыл бұрын
@CipiRipi00 Not to mention that Germany only built less than 20,000 armoured vehicles of all types combined (!) between 1937 and 1945, while the US produced 50,000 Shermans and the Soviets over 40,000 T-34s during WW2 alone. So German tanks had always been rare to begin with.
@icy3-1 Жыл бұрын
Gotta admit, even the Tiger 1 mockup in Saving Private Ryan had me fooled when I was still a kid, not knowing a whole lot about the minor distinguishing features between tanks
@Staravora2 жыл бұрын
Kelly's Heroes ♥ I mean like so many positive waves, maybe we can't lose
@napoliansolo786511 ай бұрын
I love this type of content. When I was a kid we used to play army a lot. I had a Mattel Thompson machine gun that you could pull back a lever and then when you squeezed the trigger it'd make a rat a tat tat sound.
@lyleslaton30862 жыл бұрын
"Tiger to Panther,get that piece of junk off the road". Both are M-48s. Back when Hollyturd didn't care that you knew it was a turd.
@vampirecount38802 жыл бұрын
Even as a 8 years old kid i could tell those Patton tanks looked quite odd in that movie. When i watched all those movies as a kid i didnt noticed any but the Pattons. I think the Patton is such an iconic american tank you cant mistake it for a WWII tank at all...
@misterjohan49932 жыл бұрын
In the Yugoslav partisan movie "Sutjeska" they used T-34-85 russian medium tanks to play as Tiger I tanks, they used cardboard panels to make the tanks a bit more square looking and that was it. It actually looked convincing, you couldn't tell that they were T-34-85 unless you notice the typical russian 5 wheel configuration on the tanks.
@johansilwouden34032 жыл бұрын
I just watched the movie A Bridge Too Far for probably the 30th time. Always nice to see the Leopard 1's of our glorious Dutch army crossing the Arnhem bridge, shooting at the British paratroopers!
@douglasstrother65842 жыл бұрын
30th time ... XXXth Corps!
@starwarspros75562 жыл бұрын
The village where kellys heroes tiger scene was filmed is host of a yearly airsoft re-enactment event named after the movie, entire village is the playground. The Leopard 1 in a bridge too far was meant to resemble a Tiger II due to a real Tiger II crossing the bridge like in the movie and gave the british a hard time before driving along.
@colinbarron42 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wrote a book called 'Battles on Screen', which mentions most of the films in the video so I would like to make some corrections.. Tobruk (1966) was filmed in Calfornia and Arizona. None of it was filmed in Spain despite what you may have read on the internet. Eight Sherman tanks (not four) were used in 'a Bridge Too Far'. Two of those were towable hulks ,the rest were in running condition. In addition five glassfibre Sherman Firefly replicas were used ,mounted on Land Rovers. Also used were one M24 hulk , one M47 hulk and one M10 hulk. 'The Bridge at Remagen' was filmed in Czechoslovakia and completed in Italy and Germany following the Russian invasion. However, the film crew were eventually allowed back into Czechoslovakia to film some crucial scenes. The three Tiger replicas used in 'Kelly's Heroes' were built for an earl;ier Yugoslavian film called 'The Battle of Neretva.'
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for expanding and adding to the video! I'm just an amateur war movie fan so I appreciate this. :)
@fridayray88912 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is how they look? My Dad would yell at the T.V. about the inaccuracies...we never got to watch them without him getting pissed.....
@theend15553 ай бұрын
Say what you will about Fury, but the fact that they were able to get Tiger 131 in the film was incredible.
@TheGV502 жыл бұрын
Great Work Johnny Johnson, I thoroughly enjoyed this video!
@alexcruse11632 жыл бұрын
Yes, let's not forget when Patton finally faced what he had become...
@codgamer2 жыл бұрын
I built Tamiya 1/35 tanks when I was 12 years old so when I watched these movies at that time, I always wondered why they don't use the real tanks. Even with the T-34/Tiger in Kelly's heros, my gut was telling me the wheels are not right, the turret is too forward! But back then I didn't know it was hard to find authentic WWII tanks. :-)
@douglasstrother65842 жыл бұрын
I was a Tamiya-geek, too!
@codgamer2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasstrother6584 haha, back then it was pretty much the only entertainment during the long summer holidays for me. I remember in HK, 2 boxes were very hard to get. M113 fire support and M42 duster. When I finally found them when I went to Australia, it was like finding gold.
@galesams42052 ай бұрын
I served on a m-48 52 ton tank, 90mm main ,50 cal. coax, few flame thrower. A beast with 5 per platoon and 9 APC m113 13 ton. Qu-ohan tp pl-Durang 10th calvery RECON. Vietnam.
@Badvibesdude2 жыл бұрын
Kelly's Heroes is a really underappreciated film in general. Great concept, well executed, and a solid cast.
@seocost_98292 жыл бұрын
I loved the movie Patton, and it wasn’t about the tanks, it was how cool it was, it was just fun.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Heck ya
@seocost_98292 жыл бұрын
Yeah then I would bring out my army men and play
@sturm90872 жыл бұрын
Well anyone who just watched these movies would probably think the most common German tank of ww2 was the Patton
@cojiro9616 Жыл бұрын
By far my favorite weird tank comes from the Rat Patrol series. Not only do they have M3 halftracks dressed up as German ones, but the German's main "tanks" are M7 priests.
@MMSaabChannel2 жыл бұрын
Love this video thanks 😍
@robertphillips62962 жыл бұрын
The movie Fury, the most accurate depiction of Tanks and other equipment.
@sturmbok2 жыл бұрын
Because all of the tanks in it were actually period tanks. The Tiger I in Fury was an actual Tiger from the Bovington armor museum. The only working real Tiger in existence I believe.
@nzgunnie2 жыл бұрын
A yes, the highly accurate portrayal of the famous three minute grenade fuze.
@pedrorocha48172 жыл бұрын
Australians are preparing another Tiger I.
@Pikaton8 ай бұрын
Ah yes, historical accuracy, can’t wait to see a German BT5 go against a centurion in the battle of the Somme (WW1)
@azarisLP3 ай бұрын
Everyone to Spain in the 30's: "Hey guys, can we borrow your war to test out all our tanks?" Everyone to Spain in the 60's: "Hey guys, can we borrow your tanks to shoot all our war movies?"
@huantruonginh29462 жыл бұрын
There are so many more historical accurate vehicle in A Bridge too far, my favorite childhood movie, including M10s, daimler armor cars, bedford trucks and more.
@adamrodaway91162 жыл бұрын
Looks like there’s an M10 at 7:05
@kiwicory1002 жыл бұрын
I have always liked and appreciated the use of period equipment in war movies. I agree with your assessment. I have been looking at Russian films for their use of KV-1, T-34-85 tanks etc. I love to see and hear how they sounded. Maybe you could look at and compare these as well. A good starting point is a film called White Tiger.
@DomWeasel2 жыл бұрын
The proper Soviet vehicles in Belyy Tigr are great to see, as are the wrecks of German vehicles but it's unfortunate the titular Tiger is clearly an IS:2 with some plates added to make it look blocky.
@pjeng12 жыл бұрын
I watched these tank movies back in the 60's and 70's as a kid, and I like M47 a lot because of the movie Battle of the Bulge.
@larrygilbert72732 жыл бұрын
I love that running tank battle across the river in "The Bridge at Remagen."
@Nocturnal_Me2 жыл бұрын
8:24 "Hopefully this baby grew up to be a tanker" *Random Triceratops noises*
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
lol
@fatcat32112 жыл бұрын
I wish an M4A3E4 would fall into private hands. Imagine seeing Oddball's Sherman today.
@MichalKaczorowski2 жыл бұрын
Lots of them are still in former Yugoslavia as monuments. One if them was bought there and restored to running condition in Poland.
@fatcat32112 жыл бұрын
@@MichalKaczorowski Seems there's been one in the UK all along. Awesome! kzbin.info/www/bejne/e17Lf3Z5fqaMiNE
@user-tc9wd4gu1k13 күн бұрын
It’s important to remember that the losing side didn’t have a lot of tanks surviving the war. We, being the victors, had lots of tanks at war’s and. This was a severe constraint on hollywood.
@tomjohnson34732 жыл бұрын
Great someone made this video, waited for years on this one, might have picked on the Rat Patrol as well
@rohanpreis6883 Жыл бұрын
So basically 1960s war movies are war thunder
@rolfagten857 Жыл бұрын
1960s warmovies are THE BEST!
@philb35492 жыл бұрын
I can put up with inaccurate tanks as long as the story and the acting make up for it (as Henry Fonda, Robert Shaw, Hans Christian Blech, Charles Bronson, and Telly Savalas all do in TBotB). The Bridge at Remagen is a good film too.
@DomWeasel2 жыл бұрын
I like Battle of the River Plate/Pursuit of the Graf Spee for this reason. Two of the four warships in the film portray themselves, while the other two (Both sunk) have other ships 'cast' as them. I know the USS Salem looks nothing like the Graf Spee but they've acknowledged it and everything else is as good as it can be for a film from 1956.
@TellySavalas-or5hf Жыл бұрын
Yes, my friend Odball was there when we in "Kelly's Heroes" chased the German army from the Alsace region in northern France. I then received more awards than I deserved. He, He he!🏅🎖🎖
@MichalKaczorowski2 жыл бұрын
The Tiger mockups from "Kelly's Heroes" was made for Yugoslavian epic war movie "Battle of Neretva" filmed at the same time. US film crew obtained three of them, added zimmerit and repainted.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding this 🙏
@chaz21872 жыл бұрын
I like these classics great films. The acting and dialogue can seem strange to modern audiences.
@nathannantasai89452 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty true, a lot of Modern day's movies revolve around keeping the story interesting although a lot of natural scenery isn't like it.
@douglasdaniel45042 жыл бұрын
Oh, all this time and I didn't know that was an actual Leopard tank! Thanks!
@rcgunner70862 жыл бұрын
I figured it was back in the day. It's pretty cool to hear that my guess was right. The Leo 1 is another classic Cold War tank and this is one of the few places where you can actually see one in action.
@AtheistOrphan2 жыл бұрын
The turret shape and rear lights give it away.
@WiliiamNoTell3 ай бұрын
Nicely done. Tanks !!
@todd-23622 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed about early World War II movies no matter what country the movie was made in. It always shows the soldiers as grown men but reality is they were 18, 19, 20, & 21 year olds.
@JohnnyJohnsonEsq2 жыл бұрын
yah some of those John Wayne War movies he is playing special forces in his 60s lol
@einundsiebenziger5488 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq The reason why JW even became a super star was that he was already 35 years old when the US entered WW2, so he could acquire roles that would have gone to younger actors if they hadn't been drafted to join the armed forces. He then was eager to play in as many war movies as possible so he could at least pretend to have been a soldier.
@C.M.3434 ай бұрын
The wrong tanks ruin a movie, period.
@ryuhanja34152 жыл бұрын
Damn germany and Italy were so ahead if their times in these movies :O