Classical Composer Reacts to The Count of Tuscany (Dream Theater) | The Daily Doug (Episode 118)

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Doug Helvering

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@psychobeef5176
@psychobeef5176 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m trying to count the rhythm, but I’m not succeeding.” Sounds about right.
@TheEmperius
@TheEmperius 3 жыл бұрын
6/8 > 9/8 that's one way to counter that part. It's a simple part actually
@thecalminsanity
@thecalminsanity 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmperius yep thats how I do it too. I was counting in 8th notes by habit and it was 6 -> 9 (nice) so basically 15/8
@edgarmaestre6622
@edgarmaestre6622 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, typicall dream theather XD
@woodchuk1
@woodchuk1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmperius Similar to The Ocean by Led Zeppelin, except theirs is subdivided as 4/4 > 7/8. End result still sounds like 15/8, just a different pulse.
@TheRicardosuman
@TheRicardosuman 3 жыл бұрын
We've been there so many times...
@alandoughty1
@alandoughty1 3 жыл бұрын
They’ve done heavier songs. They’ve done more epic songs. They’ve done more complex songs and more progressive and edgy songs. But for my money this is the song where they bring everything together perfectly, it’s my favourite track of theirs.
@iau
@iau 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! They've done more of everything, but this song is just pure good taste, backed up by all the lessons learned before.
@gabrielpiccolo
@gabrielpiccolo 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@Enochulator
@Enochulator 3 жыл бұрын
A Change of Seasons
@Sleepwokkr
@Sleepwokkr 3 жыл бұрын
Very well put
@undeadd666
@undeadd666 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know why, but I don't like them. The only thing I really love though is that 6/8-7/8 riff from the middle section of Metropolis pt.1. Like, that riff gives me a boner. Otherwise their music seems just too light and positive for my taste (dreamy? :) ), despite the rhytmical difficulties. Only occasionaly I find myself enjoying it.
@yavorpetkov7572
@yavorpetkov7572 3 жыл бұрын
You absolutly have to react to Change of seasons.. A MUST!!!
@wyldeman7
@wyldeman7 3 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece
@maidtallica
@maidtallica 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutly!
@GL32168
@GL32168 3 жыл бұрын
The best.
@jeffersonaraujo7591
@jeffersonaraujo7591 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Absolutly! It is a must haha.
@VHDT10
@VHDT10 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I love Octavarium but ACOS is way better imo
@Groovemancer
@Groovemancer 3 жыл бұрын
The ending of this song where the acoustic guitar kicks, still gives me goosebumps to this day, every time I hear it, even after ~12 years.
@martinknost3227
@martinknost3227 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Trial of Tears, when Part III kicks in. Still gets me, even after almost... 25 years (jesus christ, 25 years!?!?!?!?)
@michelebolzoni9358
@michelebolzoni9358 2 жыл бұрын
I saw them live yesterday in Milan, that part got me mesmerized
@MnyFrNthng
@MnyFrNthng 2 жыл бұрын
Me, too. Not goosebumps but tears after 12 years maybe 200+ listens. You don't expect a so heavy song at the first section get so emotional later on but that's DT.
@WillWindWonder
@WillWindWonder Жыл бұрын
100%
@cuacko
@cuacko Жыл бұрын
Absolutely mesmerizing, every single listen since it was released, times ten when watching live.
@DlSASTERCHlLD
@DlSASTERCHlLD 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The "bitter gentleman and historian" John is talking about in the lyrics is Count Niccolò Capponi, the inspiration for the character Dr. Hannibal Lecter! I don't know how or why, but John got to meet Sebastiano (Niccolò's brother and the Count that took John for a drive to the estate) and was feeling nervous and trapped in this mysterious estate. Then it finally ends with Sebastiano reassuring John it's of course just a grand story and a character, and that he's of course not in any danger and free to go whenever!
@ludvincontreras974
@ludvincontreras974 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fact bro
@calebsmith1660
@calebsmith1660 3 жыл бұрын
He went with John Myung and the bands drum tech who was an avid wine tester and apparently there is a winery at the estate. There's an interview on here somewhere where he goes in more detail.
@blandopher
@blandopher 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the lyrics say "bearded gentleman"!
@tchristianphoto
@tchristianphoto 3 жыл бұрын
To me, this whole album seems to have a recurring theme of having things that seem terrifying on the surface turn out to be completely innocuous -- even positive -- and the album title seems to support such a reading.
@calebsmith1660
@calebsmith1660 3 жыл бұрын
@@tchristianphoto Yeah they tried to write every song on the album about different experiences they have all had such as a car wreck that JP experienced as a kid for "A nightmare to remember" and Portnoys dad passing for "The best of times"
@stekikun6854
@stekikun6854 3 жыл бұрын
When my son was 4, he heard this song and instantly he wanted me to put it on the living room Sonos over and over. He called it "the 19-minute song" and could listen to it 10x a day, until he could sing the lyrics phonetically (he's not an anglophone), even playing the E-D#-B part along with his glockenspiel X) Couldn't blame him, it's such a great piece !
@TheRicardosuman
@TheRicardosuman 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy! And I'm stuck with childish songs with my 4 year old son... I'm trying some prog and death metal, but he just doesn't care.
@ryanmalin
@ryanmalin 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRicardosuman good luck buddy. Good job dad. My old man taught me to play most of the classic rock epic songs when I was a little kid. I didnt understand the significance of them until I became a grown man.
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 3 жыл бұрын
that's proper parenting. my little guy loves metal too
@jpslaym0936
@jpslaym0936 2 жыл бұрын
My son when he was 6 in the same way. It began his appreciation of what good music can elicit and be enjoyed as
@insafsamaromari5041
@insafsamaromari5041 2 жыл бұрын
You’re me from the future i guess cuz my kids better prepare for this 😂
@Tintop
@Tintop 3 жыл бұрын
one of the rules of listening to progressive rock and progressive metal: "expect the unexpected"
@justdave9610
@justdave9610 3 жыл бұрын
Even a blues section in an Ayreon song
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 3 жыл бұрын
Expect that a young eccentric man who lures a young innocent guitarist in a car is actually not a serial killer or even a pedophile, and his sinister brother is sinister just because his profession is a historian.
@RBos1971
@RBos1971 3 жыл бұрын
@@u.v.s.5583 spoiler alert!!
@TheEmperius
@TheEmperius 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the right way to do this is: Expect nothing and be prepared for anything.
@felipeandres8203
@felipeandres8203 3 жыл бұрын
Like jazz or classical music...
@ivangomez8584
@ivangomez8584 3 жыл бұрын
"This is like a mini movie...", my friend, welcome to Dream Theater's music world...
@RickGreen_McNutt
@RickGreen_McNutt 3 жыл бұрын
He should check out "Scenes from a memory" - not as musically inspiring as this, but it really is a movie told through the ears.
@nickwoollon9855
@nickwoollon9855 3 жыл бұрын
21:42 "It's like a mini movie" - oh boy would you love to hear the entirety of the album Metropolis pt 2. That album has one hell of a story
@Bardizzle4895
@Bardizzle4895 2 жыл бұрын
I have told everyone I’ve ever told about this song that it plays out like a story and to hear someone else say nearly the exact same thing was a hell of a feeling.
@elijahsacco
@elijahsacco 2 жыл бұрын
Especially that one particular section in Home 😂😂
@nicetry69420
@nicetry69420 Жыл бұрын
@@elijahsacco people that don't know 🤨🤨🤨 People that know 🥴😉💦
@ActuallyEric
@ActuallyEric 3 жыл бұрын
The ending to this song is one of the most beautiful sounds Dream Theater has ever produced IMO. It's just SO. DAMN. GOOD.
@gammanickify
@gammanickify Жыл бұрын
I have to agree. I would listen to the count of Tuscany and Hell's kitchen instrumental all day.. every day
@juanramonvazquezmendoza5018
@juanramonvazquezmendoza5018 Жыл бұрын
This ending and Octavarium's ending are the best outros, definitely
@rahatmahmud5435
@rahatmahmud5435 Жыл бұрын
​@@juanramonvazquezmendoza5018Illumination theory, In the name of god, Ministry of lost souls all want to know if you hear them or not
@bjjace1
@bjjace1 11 ай бұрын
And the beginning
@TheIllyrianRTW
@TheIllyrianRTW 3 жыл бұрын
Octovarium is definitely a way to go. They also have an entire B side of an album as a 42-minute epic called Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. Probably not so great for content, but a really cool piece nonetheless
@TwoandaHater
@TwoandaHater 3 жыл бұрын
ACoS is their best 20+ min song.
@Dilly137
@Dilly137 3 жыл бұрын
I second this, especially live score version. It's a musical marvel
@firasnacef001
@firasnacef001 3 жыл бұрын
Octavarium is THE way to go*
@Metalton95
@Metalton95 3 жыл бұрын
@@TwoandaHater A Change of Seasons is their best song* Top 3 songs I've EVER heard (and they're all between 23-31 minutes long).
@carlosneto8461
@carlosneto8461 3 жыл бұрын
And also Illumination Theory, the string section in the middle is one of the mos beautiful pieces of music ever written
@ConnorHammond
@ConnorHammond 2 жыл бұрын
Standing in front of Petrucci while he slays this live was something else. The way the reverb and and decaying notes filled the hall while his tight lead crunched in front of me was so magical. Make a grown man cry. And the fact the "acoustic" parts are played on his piezo pickup on his Majesty really confuses the ear.
@JT40_
@JT40_ 3 жыл бұрын
Please consider 6 degrees of inner turbulence too! Nice weekend everyone!
@falloutfan2502
@falloutfan2502 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, did you mean the whole double-disk release, or just the 42-minute long opus itself? The Glass Prison is there, and a great introduction to the whole 12-step AA process (which I'd love to see reviewed as well). But from a weird music perspective, "Misunderstood" and "Disappear" are very nice.
@bobmac8309
@bobmac8309 3 жыл бұрын
@@falloutfan2502 glass prison shifts astral planes near the end.... 😆
@JT40_
@JT40_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@falloutfan2502 the 42 minute whole song! Hopefully the live with the orchestra one. You are completely right such a great album
@99Anarkya
@99Anarkya 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a more classical approach regarding Dream Theater's direction in Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. Would be a great piece of music for Doug to react to.
@moisesfernandez5681
@moisesfernandez5681 3 жыл бұрын
6doit it's long, but maybe as a stream? I'd definitely watch that!
@VegetableSui
@VegetableSui 3 жыл бұрын
Consider "A Change of Seasons." Written based on the drummer's experience dealing with grief from the loss of his mother and how it changed him. Really excellent track.
@RafaelFaenir
@RafaelFaenir 3 жыл бұрын
I second that! Another mosnter 22+ Minutes song, but one of my favorites!
@marcoferrao
@marcoferrao 3 жыл бұрын
Better than Octavariun I´d say.
@FanaticDrummer
@FanaticDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
My mom grew up with Rush. But she actually preferred DT over them when she heard this song. Thats how profound and underrated it is.
@Beardfish.
@Beardfish. 3 жыл бұрын
This. And then do Haken - Crystallised after 😁
@tusotusin
@tusotusin 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! This song has the magic of Kevin Moore´s era. No rush in the song, only story-telling music
@nightwishlover8913
@nightwishlover8913 3 жыл бұрын
Dream Theater will always test your time signature counting...
@RandyLott
@RandyLott 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, this is the best performance and composition Jordan Rudess has ever done with DT. Check out the isolated keyboard tracks, specifically after the last guitar solo. He's playing arpeggios, chords, and a counter melody at the same time. Absolutely astonishing orchestration.
@PabloSaavedra84
@PabloSaavedra84 3 жыл бұрын
I fricking love those arpeggios!! that part it's my always favorite too from JR
@gilbrun7830
@gilbrun7830 3 жыл бұрын
Up
@cassianopereira4775
@cassianopereira4775 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree!! he’s so into the song and never gets carried away with shredding
@vinniciusrosa8284
@vinniciusrosa8284 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@faroffgrace5490
@faroffgrace5490 3 жыл бұрын
I love those isolated keyboard tracks! I wish they were mixed louder, particularly the piano in the chorus because that stuff sets the mood so well.
@sabin97
@sabin97 3 жыл бұрын
one of the things i love about your reactions is that you help us improve our understanding of musical theory, which in turn helps us have a deeper appreciation of the music we love and also helps us become better musicians.
@robbiburrell1168
@robbiburrell1168 3 жыл бұрын
True for me also!
@GermiesCoasterYard
@GermiesCoasterYard 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbiburrell1168 I third this
@ritblock
@ritblock 3 жыл бұрын
And Mike Portnoy on drums... He does so much wonderful things on this track. This song is truly a masterpiece!
@gabrielpontual9735
@gabrielpontual9735 3 жыл бұрын
oh boy, can't wait for Octavarium
@torture10
@torture10 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the live version :)
@gabrielpontual9735
@gabrielpontual9735 3 жыл бұрын
@@torture10 the Score version, right? It's amazing!
@torture10
@torture10 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielpontual9735 Yes :) My favoritve - the drum cam ;)
@omarlinan3234
@omarlinan3234 3 жыл бұрын
Same thought when I see this
@EessaTube
@EessaTube 3 жыл бұрын
You feel drained after 20 minutes. Most DT concerts are about 3 hours. At one, here in the UK, They played for 3 hours, with a 10 minute break in the middle. Then, came on for an encore and did two songs. One was 17 minutes long and the other was 23 minutes long. So, altogether, they played for three and a half hours.
@bloodletterable
@bloodletterable 3 жыл бұрын
I went to one of those 2 part gigs. All seated. Hell of a show, started a 8 finished just after half 11. Cant remember if it was Wolverhampton or Manchester. But it is definitely up there with my favourite gigs, alongside sabaton and amon amarth.
@EessaTube
@EessaTube 3 жыл бұрын
@@bloodletterable The one I was at was at the Wolverhampton Civic.
@Md-ht3cg
@Md-ht3cg 3 жыл бұрын
You get ALL your money's worth and then some at every DT concert. Every one of the 5 shows I've seen has been completely different but not one under 3 hours lol. They're marathoners and I love it.
@SuperCoon88
@SuperCoon88 3 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy. I went during the Images and Words album anniversary tour on a school night. They played the album, had the intermission, then came back with a bunch of their famous songs, then an encore with ACoS. Needless to say, I was exhausted at school the next day, but it was also the only concert I’ve been to where my ears weren’t ringing for the next 12+hours. Don’t know if the lower volume was a choice by the band or venue, but it was appreciated for their type of music. Ear protection would’ve taken away from some of the more nuanced sections. Easily the best concert I’ve been too!
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen 6 ай бұрын
It's almost like they are inspired by Rush 😉
@andrewlamont3053
@andrewlamont3053 3 жыл бұрын
Dream Theater had a habit of starting an album mirroring how the last album ended. Glad you enjoyed that experience!
@luksvasco1
@luksvasco1 3 жыл бұрын
That went from Metropolis to Octavarium, not? Octavarium had the "it ends where it starts" theme, so it started the same as Train of Thought, but ended as it started, closing the cycle.
@andrewlamont3053
@andrewlamont3053 3 жыл бұрын
@@luksvasco1 you're absolutely right. The band brought it back for Black Clouds & Silver Linings / A Dramatic Turn of Events, but it wasn't every album for sure. The atmosphere of that ending made me remember about it.
@fendi-bull8167
@fendi-bull8167 3 жыл бұрын
They brought back 6-7-8 tracklisting and it descending instead of ascending
@MetalMann-de3xi
@MetalMann-de3xi 3 жыл бұрын
I assume you're a Pink Floyd fan. Dream Theater is as well. Along with Rush, Kansas, Emerson Lake and Palmer, with that being said Dream Theater tends to be an album band. I hope one day you would consider listening to at least Metropolis pt 2 Scenes From a Memory in it's entirety. It's arguably their pinnacle album that came from a little joke on their Images and Words album which was Metropolis pt 1 (Miracle and The Sleeper) which they had no intention to make a part 2. A few albums later the little joke became something so brilliant. It's a concept album based upon a man having lucid dreams about a woman in the past and it starts with the man at the therapist being hypnotized, and you go on quite an adventure up until the very end where you will get a very twisted ending. If you like Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here or Dark Side of the Moon album, this is their own tribute to those albums. When they went on tour with this album with the extended band extras they hired for the album as well and covered the entire Dark Side of the Moon album from beginning to end. Dream Theater will take you on adventures for sure and they have a different sound with each album and will leave you guessing what they will do next. I'm glad you came back to Dream Theater and hope you will do more.
@Wazoodust
@Wazoodust 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that about the time this was released, thought maybe it was just me overimagining it....maybe not!!
@MM-nd1zz
@MM-nd1zz 3 жыл бұрын
The beauty of the whole part starting at 14:22 strikes me every time. Every time. Heard this song countless times through the years. Wow.
@fernandocast435
@fernandocast435 3 жыл бұрын
I love this song cause it's "I shat my pants over nothing lol"
@HollowGolem
@HollowGolem 3 жыл бұрын
Having been to some of those chapels in Italy where they literally have the dead remains of a saint inside a clear glass altar, it can freak you out. Add to that somebody like John who has a panic disorder, which he's talked about in the past and even written a song about, and I could definitely see how he could freak out.
@RezaKulasidini
@RezaKulasidini 3 жыл бұрын
Or "He's so weird, I'm gonna die."
@zacharykim295
@zacharykim295 3 жыл бұрын
@@HollowGolem JP has a panic disorder? I never knew that, he always seems so chill.
@SuperCoon88
@SuperCoon88 3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharykim295 Panic Attack makes a lot more sense now
@senditkevin
@senditkevin 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperCoon88 oooOOOooo ok.
@firestorm755
@firestorm755 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. First time for me too!. I can hear 80s guitar work, I can hear Rush, I can hear Metallica and I can hear Pink Floyd and the crazy guitar and percussion work of DT going on. Awesome, I'm going to buy this album!!
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen 6 ай бұрын
I hope you enjoyed it, it's a great album. Several others of theirs are great. Definitely inspired by the acts you mentioned. I feel they are the spiritual successor to Rush even though they are heavier.
@RareHarmony
@RareHarmony 3 жыл бұрын
4:46 "It's almost like Jordan's playing keyboard with him... no he's not..." *Me* "Oh, yes he is!"
@christianbenson67
@christianbenson67 3 жыл бұрын
Dream Theater's "Illumination Theory" is not only an outstanding song, but has probably one of the most beautiful pieces of classical music inside of it..
@Cheese-0x
@Cheese-0x 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It's one of my favorites to hear live from the more recent songs.
@Gamfam23
@Gamfam23 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@theeuropeanlegacy5075
@theeuropeanlegacy5075 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao. This is an overrated song compared what DT produced before 2009
@BradenMcClure-q6k
@BradenMcClure-q6k 9 ай бұрын
​@@theeuropeanlegacy5075whatever you must be one of the whiny baby's who don't know how to get over portnoy leaving the band so heres my advice to you. SHUT YOUR MOUTH 😑
@steev11
@steev11 2 жыл бұрын
That last guitar solo is one of John’s best. I love that last run where he uses a pedal tone in that descending line and then he bursts into that ascending run. Wow.
@petermalik2536
@petermalik2536 3 жыл бұрын
"Learning To Live" should be very interesting concerning time signatures etc.
@Diola_Drone
@Diola_Drone 3 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece,my Dream Theater favourite 🎩
@christianrojas3357
@christianrojas3357 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@AMGU2B
@AMGU2B 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve known DT for over 15 years and I’ve listened to this song countless times. Just wanted to let you know that, as someone who is not trained in music (let alone classical music), I’ve enjoyed this video so much because it has allowed me to understand this song at a whole new level thanks to your expert comments. God bless you.
@elBanananas
@elBanananas 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for you to hear Octavarium. For me this is the greatest masterpiece from Dream Theater, especially when you know all the hidden meanings. Out of this world.
@KhordLizardMage
@KhordLizardMage 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it is a highlight of their epic career.
@Aquila81
@Aquila81 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! "octavarium" or "a change of seasons", absolutely!!! Please Doug 🙏
@derrickmelton5844
@derrickmelton5844 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about Octavarium is that it isn't as great as a solo song...you NEED to really listen to the whole album to fully appreciate the song, because the other tracks really contextualize what the song is about.
@elBanananas
@elBanananas 3 жыл бұрын
@@derrickmelton5844 Yes. But once you know the hidden meanings and all it's very listenable on it's own.
@Ja-mbi
@Ja-mbi 3 жыл бұрын
What hidden meanings? In the song or the album? I’m curious about them.
@Charlton222
@Charlton222 3 жыл бұрын
I've never been a Dream Theater fan (I've tried!) but I have to say that this is the first song from them that has really clicked for me. It's absolutely epic. The music, lyrics, production, arrangement, execution - it's all so good. Dream Theater was always cold to me - very clinical, almost too technical for their own good. Not this song - it's so tasteful. Even the lyrics show vulnerability. The Count of Tuscany is hopefully the breakthrough song to get me deeper into the band's catalog. Thank you, Doug. Without you, I may have never have heard this!
@634983
@634983 3 жыл бұрын
The singing puts me of a bit but petrucci is really good
@Charlton222
@Charlton222 3 жыл бұрын
@@634983 His voice is what I have most trouble with, too. And I like Geddy Lee's voice so I don't understand why I'm having trouble with this guy (James Labrie?).
@sophiaperennis2360
@sophiaperennis2360 3 жыл бұрын
I find them a bit sterile to be honest. Technically accomplished sure, but not really quite as creative as one would have hoped. Also, as virtuosic as their music is, i find it interesting how they demonstrated they couldn't really improv that well with their short stint with Tony Levin.
@porfiriodev
@porfiriodev 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to metropolis pt2, octavarium and black clouds n silver linings
@planetcaravan2925
@planetcaravan2925 10 ай бұрын
​@@sophiaperennis2360 this is pretty creative, but i think they are cheesing too much
@johnnelson3869
@johnnelson3869 3 жыл бұрын
DT are on another level. It's cool to see others in the know light up at the brilliance of Dream Theater. It's pure, it's polished, it's thoughtful, it breathes, it shreds, and your reaction to it is awesome. Thanks!
@mehulsheth7688
@mehulsheth7688 3 жыл бұрын
The quiet sublime smile at 16:10 when Petrucci swells to that high F# says it all 😌
@Cestariarts
@Cestariarts 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Doug. I attended a DT concert this past Wednesday and they played The Count of Tuscany, so emotional!!! Thanks for your review. I have visited Lithuania as well, beautiful country.
@albinlundberg5583
@albinlundberg5583 3 жыл бұрын
My dad introduced me to dream theater when i was 8 (2009) the count of tuscany was a song that struck me immediately for some reason and since then its been our biggest object of bonding. This album and in particular this song is our mutual favourite. Loved this video!
@increase9896
@increase9896 3 жыл бұрын
My dad bonded with me by getting drunk and and coming into my bedroom while I was asleep to love me.
@albinlundberg5583
@albinlundberg5583 3 жыл бұрын
@@increase9896 I dont know if there is a joke with an implication of the word ”love” in your sentence but if there was real parental love im happy for you to have had it (even if he was drunk)
@jacobhumphrey3535
@jacobhumphrey3535 3 жыл бұрын
This was the album that got me into Dream Theater. I bought it randomly after taking my ACT, and was just blown away by this song. Dark Clouds and Silver Linings is very underrated by most fans I feel.
@albinlundberg5583
@albinlundberg5583 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobhumphrey3535 I agree! I always feel like it gets, almost ignored, when speaking of great albums or songs. My number 1 favourite dt album for sure!
@lachlanrusin987
@lachlanrusin987 3 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful story man
@goncalobaia1574
@goncalobaia1574 3 жыл бұрын
-simple chord progression *Dream Theater starts being Dream Theater* -shouldn't have said that
@pageylruatahmar9233
@pageylruatahmar9233 10 ай бұрын
Two years late but damn, you're absolutely right 😂
@chegevara8896
@chegevara8896 4 ай бұрын
great things begins an simple ideas
@RobCaldera
@RobCaldera 3 жыл бұрын
In addition to Octavarium, which is a must, try Illumination Theory, which is a 22-minute Dream Theater epic. And don't forget Change of Seasons too! And "In the Presence of Enemies, Parts I & II," and "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"...you've got lots of Dream Theater epics to cover. :)
@XxDar10xX
@XxDar10xX 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! A Change a Seasons is an experience, my favorite from them.
@JosesAmazingWorlds
@JosesAmazingWorlds 3 жыл бұрын
The long pieces are just boring. DT don’t need that kind of thing when you have written over 10 minute pieces in the same album.
@RobCaldera
@RobCaldera 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosesAmazingWorlds Boring?! They’re masterpieces. That’s certainly an unpopular opinion.
@JosesAmazingWorlds
@JosesAmazingWorlds 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobCaldera I don’t mind having unpopular opinions. Saw them live and people were yawning when after one hour of lengthy pieces they played an instrumental. The closing track on the Dream Theater album is boring. DT playing with orchestras is just them playing at being directors. Having said that, they have full albums that are masterpieces in their entirety, like Images, Metropolis or Systematic, even Awake, but not those 20 minute pieces, not for me.
@RobCaldera
@RobCaldera 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosesAmazingWorlds I’ve seen them live a few times too and I’ve never seen people yawn. I mean, this is what they’re known for, as is the whole genre of progressive rock/metal.
@DamienDrake
@DamienDrake 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite pieces of music ever. Add to that the narrative it tells and you've got a true masterpiece. The whole thing is great, but the story's denouement, when we finally get to hear from the Count's perspective, is the icing on the cake for me. "Go and tell the world my story Tell about my brother Tell them about me The Count of Tuscany" That sentiment really packs a ton of emotional weight for me. The notion of being so deeply misunderstood while only wanting to be remembered as who you are is a kind of simple, deep beauty rarely heard executed so well lyrically as well as musically. LaBrie's vocals are tremendous throughout the piece and they truly shine in the last section. The whole piece is brilliant at covering the mystery, perceived danger, misplaced terror and, finally, understanding. The album is one of my favorites by Dream Theater for sure, and this is one of the best album-closers ever.
@woodchuk1
@woodchuk1 3 жыл бұрын
This kind of reaction is EXACTLY why I subscribed, Doug. You have a great ear for pitch. One thing I thought I’d point out is the contrary motion at the end of the ambient section in the middle, before the final acoustic bit. The guitar figure descends from B to A# to G#, while the chord progression ascends from E to F# to G#min. So the solo phrases target the fifth, major third, and tonic of the underlying chords. There’s also some parts in the beginning where the tonality almost seems to briefly shift to E Lydian, mostly where the keyboards play over that alternating E-F# bit. You sound like you probably have a good idea of the chords...you caught the minor iv chord in the middle part, and I can give you the full chords if you’re interested. Please don’t stop the Dream Theater train...Octavarium next! Great reaction!
@christofferlundgren5681
@christofferlundgren5681 3 жыл бұрын
How can you hear every chord so fast and identify them its truly amazing 👍🏼 Great videos 👍🏼
@Doug.Helvering
@Doug.Helvering 3 жыл бұрын
years and years of practice...
@memoregalado3651
@memoregalado3651 3 жыл бұрын
The final guitar solo is one the most memorable from Petrucci!!
@reman81
@reman81 3 жыл бұрын
that and the of Best of times one( that i consider the most emotional JP has ever written)
@hewp-xe2pe
@hewp-xe2pe 3 жыл бұрын
The best of times is the most memorable I think. But this one is close second
@maxmintz511
@maxmintz511 3 жыл бұрын
By DT’s own admission, “In the presence of enemies” was their ultimate PR composition. Part 1&2. Worth your time.
@billymaus6287
@billymaus6287 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this! I suggest giving “In the presence of enemies pt 1 and 2” from their Systematic Chaos album a listen, it’s a 25 ish minute epic. They didn’t want to open the album with a 25 min track so they spilt the track and put part 1 at the beginning and part 2 at the end. Great movements in the song.
@julioluiz
@julioluiz 3 жыл бұрын
To me, ITPOE is the best album opening of all time. Part 1 intro until the lyrics makes me so emotional I can't fathom to explain. When I had the chance to catch DT live in 2019 and they played pt 1, it was one of the best moments of my life.
@moreisallyouneed4175
@moreisallyouneed4175 2 жыл бұрын
@@julioluiz ITPOE is a metaphor for just about everything in life - I used to joke that ITPOE is really about (love, drugs, sex, getting coffee at a slow drive-thru) and then explained why - That's how universal and relatively simply the story of the song is - Coming up, struck down, darkest moment (Deal with the devil), mourning of their choices, Change of heart and Redemption) - I maintain that it is where the story line for World of Warcrafts Wrath of the Lich King Death Knight starter zone gets it's influences haha. Fun game to play - the making everything related to ITPOE, i mean.
@MechMonstrosity
@MechMonstrosity 3 жыл бұрын
I would literally buy DVDs of you analyzing songs. It's not just a reaction what you're doing, you open up my eyes to little music trivia that I would've never understood on my own. As a PhD student who's constantly working, your channel is pretty much my only source of entertainment 😂 So thanks for that!
@AToutProductions
@AToutProductions 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the many reasons I love Dream Theater. No matter how many times I've heard a song this is always something I never noticed before. You even pointed out a few things I hadn't noticed yet. Be prepared for when you do Octavarium, might need a pen and paper and a couple drinks haha
@lorenzomidabatacchi5342
@lorenzomidabatacchi5342 3 жыл бұрын
such a privilege to have this masterpiece explained by a professional, thank you!
@Tintop
@Tintop 3 жыл бұрын
"Rhapsody In Blue" by Liquid Tension Experiment (with Jordan Rudess, John Petrucci, Tony Levin, Mike Portnoy)
@amo757
@amo757 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! What an amazing song.
@increase9896
@increase9896 3 жыл бұрын
Liquid tension experiment sounds like a parody of a prog band name. So ridiculous.
@maxhowlett9661
@maxhowlett9661 3 жыл бұрын
@@increase9896 pretty sure that was the point. An intentionally OTT prog supergroup, who do a very niche genre very well
@hawksfan5151
@hawksfan5151 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Either Gershwin loves it or is rolling in his grave. I personally love it!
@malawigw
@malawigw 3 жыл бұрын
Drumming on this track is spectacular. Its like Neil Peart on steroids
@cappuccino4366
@cappuccino4366 3 жыл бұрын
Recomendations: Pale Blue Dot, Metropolis pt1, 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Erotomania.
@counterfit5
@counterfit5 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched the video of Mangini explaining the polyrhythms in Pale Blue Dot. I think I ended up more confused afterwards.
@vitoravila9908
@vitoravila9908 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Metropolis, such a classic
@lorenzoturchetta8822
@lorenzoturchetta8822 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but there are so many DT songs to recomandate like all the album of metropolis pt.2, pull me under, the enemy inside, fall into the light, STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS, Octavarium, Panick attack, in the name of god, the root of all evil etc....
@ephesians.6
@ephesians.6 2 жыл бұрын
10:23 -- lol -- oh, Doug. It's prog METAL 😆 🤣 there's gonna be some crunchy bits. Your face leading that comment cracked me up though cause I have watched so many of your videos and always know when a part comes on that you might not be a fan of so much. 😉 Great review as always!!! This is literally one of the best songs they ever wrote!!
@jIescareno
@jIescareno 3 жыл бұрын
Dream Theater Is one of the last Greatest AND genious rock band of the history. From Berklee college of music in Boston.
@tomz4332
@tomz4332 3 жыл бұрын
The part when acoustic guitar starts and then vocals join literally made me cry. Every time I listen to that part I feel so sad my eyes instantly get watery. That's how you make music
@Dr-Shred
@Dr-Shred 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! what an epic song this is. We definitely need octavarium and a change of seasons
@daveg7896
@daveg7896 3 жыл бұрын
Doug, if you’re into the longer “epic” DT pieces that tell a story, I’d recommend “In the Presence of Enemies” part 1 and part 2. They are separated on the album, but with the convenience of technology can be played back to back. Enjoy!
@robbiburrell1168
@robbiburrell1168 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree... In the Presence of Enemies (pt. I & II) is Awesome!
@hanssalosensaari2118
@hanssalosensaari2118 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Doug and greetings from Finland! I´ve been watching your videos for a while now and wanted to tell you why your content is so great. I´ve been listening and following Dream Theater and Nightwish (also Iron Maiden) for over 10 years and as a guitar player I know most of these songs you have reacted to. It´s always nice to see how you really understand music and are able to tell what chords and notes you hear and how these combinations of chords, notes, lyrics are used to tell a story. This is really a professional analysis of these songs and some of your comments make me see and hear new things in these songs and understand them better. For example, in this song you noticed those keyboard notes and their relationship with the chords. I`ve always thought it just sounds cool, but now I understand why. I`ve listened and played this song over hundreds of times and still I´m like "oh yeah, that´s true by the way!". Also nice to see how you really appreciate these songs and musicians and how much you enjoy them! There are so many requests what songs you should listen to next. There are some truly amazing Dream Theater songs I think you would enjoy and I believe your followers would like to hear your analysis about. Metropolis Pt.1 is a great song yes, but if you listen and react to that, you REALLY should also listen to Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory, the whole album! It´s a long album and would probably take you a whole day to really react and dig into. :D But that album is such a great piece of music. If you think Count of Tuscany is like a mini-movie, that album is like a whole movie series 6/5 stars. If you want to hear something different from these guys, you should listen to Space-Dye West. Change of Seasons is an epic song. Yes, it´s 23 minutes long, but such an awesome song both musically and storywise, really worth your time. Octavarium is requested a lot and that one is also one of their greatest songs and yet again, quite an interesting story. The last request from me is The Best of Times. Also one of Portnoys last songs with DT, in fact the song just before Count of Tuscany in this album and lyrics written by Portnoy for his father who had cancer and passed away. Such a beautiful song and interesting musical ideas (not those 20 notes per second unisons this time). Yeah Doug. I really thank you for making these videos and sharing your thoughts about these songs! There are so many videos people reacting to music and being like "oh oh oh my God so cool damn whoa" every time they hear even a C major chord on a piano. Sometimes feels like overreacting. And of course music is meant to make you feel something, you don´t need musical knowledge for that. If the reactor doesn´t understand music, of course the reaction is their only "tool". But when a person who knows a lot about music thinks they hear something cool and is able to tell why it´s cool, you can learn something you can try yourself. Of course that might not be so interesting or entertaining for those who don´t play any instruments, but everyone has their audience. Keep going and keep enjoying music Doug! All the best!
@Md-ht3cg
@Md-ht3cg 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding comment mate, and I couldn't agree more. I very much appreciate they way he can break down the composition elements and bring them together
@DanielCorrea86
@DanielCorrea86 3 жыл бұрын
So wholesome at the end with your commentary, so nice!!!
@sowyouthinkyoucanplant5630
@sowyouthinkyoucanplant5630 3 жыл бұрын
Watching someone appreciate one of my favourite albums is so satisfying, and I get to appreciate it too
@dabos6
@dabos6 3 жыл бұрын
A Nightmare To Remember from this album is really worth listening.
@mattiagaleone7726
@mattiagaleone7726 3 жыл бұрын
"End of the begnning", by Jason Becker. Before doing it, go check out Jason's history. A phenomenal guitar player who got diagnosed with ASL in his early 20's and he's still alive composing music.
@werbenjagermannjensen3566
@werbenjagermannjensen3566 Жыл бұрын
I cry every time I listen to this song, cant control myself
@txusinbilbo
@txusinbilbo 3 жыл бұрын
The face of a music composer reacting to a piece of art. Lovely. Music lights up something in those who love music. No matter culture. Thanks for sharing this reaction, Doug. It´s a real pleasure to watch your videos
@dapksp25
@dapksp25 3 жыл бұрын
So glad there are others out there that appreciate and really soak in the epic DT sound and complexity of the music..THE BEST PROG METAL BAND ..PERIOD
@davelanciani-dimaensionx
@davelanciani-dimaensionx 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a fun fact about Dream Theater chord progressions. The very last chord or note played on one album is the very first note or chord that they will play on the next album.
@fabioriato
@fabioriato 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that was only between Scenes From A Memory and Octavarium, where they finished the cycle.
@nedrini1387
@nedrini1387 3 жыл бұрын
My friend you need Illumination Theory in your life. You will love it. Also it must be the live version at the Boston Opera House.
@mattolsziewski7164
@mattolsziewski7164 3 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enough to see them twice on that tour in New York and I bought the blu ray of the show at the Boston Opera House. The 5.1 mix sounds terrific, it’s a shame that it’ll be neutered by KZbin compression and in stereo, yet it’s amazing that you can go on and experience it for free at the same time.
@nicoroxy
@nicoroxy Жыл бұрын
The last part is for crying :( What a piece of art
@humanikiakaw
@humanikiakaw 3 жыл бұрын
oh my this is a masterful piece of music
@shramankeys228
@shramankeys228 2 жыл бұрын
You made a very bold decision by listening to The Count of Tuscany before Octavarium. If you didn't, you would have certainly spoiled the greatness of Octavarium.
@voithmascarenhas
@voithmascarenhas 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I got a new perspective about this song glancing from the eyes of an educated musician! Awesome! Thanks, Doug!
@Bardizzle4895
@Bardizzle4895 2 жыл бұрын
I am writing my comment through tears my friend. This has been my go to dream theater song through everything. Anytime I’m feeling down, I listen to it and it all just makes sense. When you started saying that it was like a mini movie, I immediately burst into tears because that’s what I’ve told everyone I’ve ever talked to about this song. I still remember feeling this heightened elation when the chord progressions return at the end because it’s like everything (musical and lyrics) comes full circle and it’s so satisfying. Easily one of the best songs I’ve heard in my whole 28 years of life. Cheers, you’ve earned a subscriber and supporter!
@theangryhog
@theangryhog 3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching reaction videos to Dream Theater, whom I consider to be a phenomenal group of artists on every level, by people who "get it". And you, my friend, definitely get it. Thank you!
@gabrielpiccolo
@gabrielpiccolo 3 жыл бұрын
I almost started to crying watching this. The Count of Tuscany give me a lot of goosebumps everytime I listen to, it's clearly a masterpiece, an astonishing masterpiece. Beautiful, strong and fantastic. Thanks for appreciate it.
@LordSpongy
@LordSpongy 3 жыл бұрын
Black Clouds & Silver Linings is a Masterpiece.
@LuisMunoz-oq6xx
@LuisMunoz-oq6xx 3 жыл бұрын
All albums. ♥
@unentitled8647
@unentitled8647 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree, their Magnum Opus is Scenes From a Memory
@ptsawina
@ptsawina 3 жыл бұрын
@@unentitled8647 I definitely agree, but Black Clouds is a not too distant second for me
@I_stole_a_bike
@I_stole_a_bike 2 жыл бұрын
"It's like a mini movie" Doug, that's the best explenation.
@gabrielnascimento161
@gabrielnascimento161 3 жыл бұрын
I just loved the explanation of the E D# B motive. I don't have any extensive knowledge on music theory, but I was glad that I managed to really understand it (had to build the chords, though, since it still isn't something that comes naturally to me yet). And the best part is around 20:00, how Doug is so happy about getting the smartness of the music. It's so inspiring to see someone so excited about something they like, he must be a really awesome teacher.
@subutaynoyan5372
@subutaynoyan5372 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the last DT epic that actually represented the band's brilliance. Maybe Breaking All Illusions can be added in that list but I think it's just marvellous
@mooncrew123
@mooncrew123 2 жыл бұрын
They can also reproduce all of these amazing things LIVE.
@oklahomabonfire4022
@oklahomabonfire4022 3 жыл бұрын
Hey nice listening to this with you! One of my favorite DT songs. I enjoyed your perspective!
@leighjones4396
@leighjones4396 3 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome reaction! Analysing on the fly, without stopping, providing enough detail without over or under doing it. I can see you have lots of experience and you know your stuff - thats what made it possible. Loved it :)
@JerGol
@JerGol 3 жыл бұрын
02:40 - "...kind of a simple chord progression." DT: *Oh, you gon' regret that!*
@johnjacobs7283
@johnjacobs7283 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis on a great composition!
@chrisbel15
@chrisbel15 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of Dream Theater songs moved me as a musician...but Count of Tuscany is the only one that made me cry the first time i heard.
@billscott9181
@billscott9181 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to one of Dream Theater's epic songs is always like going on a journey, and simultaneously like eating a delicious smorgasbord of music. So very musically satisfying on so many levels. The middle part is my favorite on this song as well.
@shoryuken3305
@shoryuken3305 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say I appreciate how you explain the notes I dont know a single thing about music but it made sense to me how they arranged that ascending melody near the end thank you!
@denisden934
@denisden934 3 жыл бұрын
You can really hear the Rush influence in the beginning of this one.
@dennissnyder6447
@dennissnyder6447 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite one you've done. This song is just a masterpiece. You are so spot on. That piano bit over the G# progression, I can't not hear that anymore. What a brilliant observation!!
@wdl1980
@wdl1980 3 жыл бұрын
I was living in Europe when Black Clouds & Silver Linings was released. I intentionally drove around Tuscany jamming out to this. :) How could you not? The song will give you chills up in the Tuscan Apennines. Hahaha Doug, love your reviews man!
@coolvidz1763
@coolvidz1763 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, I was absolutely amazed with your knowledge and analysis. It was such a great pleasure to see someone react with in depth (trying) to understand what Dream Theater is doing. Thank you.
@digantaankan4997
@digantaankan4997 3 жыл бұрын
Its john petrucci. You never say 'simple' before listening to the whole song haha.
@KleytonDionizio
@KleytonDionizio 3 жыл бұрын
21:43 Welcome to Dream Theater Sir !!!! The name is not in vain .... 22:57 "This story ends where it began" The final words in Octavarium
@scottrobinson4611
@scottrobinson4611 2 жыл бұрын
Of the hundreds of 'X person reacts to song Y' videos I've watched in the last few years, this has been the most informative - and it's for one of my favourite songs. I really love how you highlight the chord progressions and the over-arching themes they follow. I'm a mediocre drummer, so my music theory knowledge only really covers rhythm, not notes and chords and keys. So if I've followed correctly, the chords progress throughout the song. Then towards the end they have that 3-note motif thing made up of notes that work with all the chords they've used previously. In this section, they progress through those chords again, almost 'revisiting' the whole song thematically. Then they come full circle and finish with the same chord they started on. I've probably misunderstood a few things and confused chords for keys, but this is still the most one of these videos has taught me about any song.
@jerdure
@jerdure 3 жыл бұрын
That is the right face when listening to this marvel. This song is intoxicating, I still get amazed when listening to it since it has been release. My heroes !
@SeanMitchell4574
@SeanMitchell4574 3 жыл бұрын
Portnoy is famous for his cyclical writing and reoccurring themes, also does this with Transatlantic and Neal Morse Band... one the things I love about his influence
@michaelflorczyk1394
@michaelflorczyk1394 3 жыл бұрын
The Glory Of The Lord is a great song by Neal Morse Band
@shade3385
@shade3385 Жыл бұрын
I finally got to see Dream Theater live this past Saturday during their dreamsonic tour. When they played The Count of Tuscany I absolutely lost my mind. I thought I would never be able to listen to this live... it was amazing in every way live and you can bet your ass I sang every word of this song. The best part was that they did an encore afterwards and ended up singing The Spirit Carrie's On with the other two line up bands playing it with them. What a great and wonderful experience!
@MisterSmith00
@MisterSmith00 3 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I had a period where I broke HARD into music…particularly rock music, and metal. I would pour through the music cd section; and any of the album covers that caught my eye I would snag and peer through their track lists…anything that sounded interesting, would claim the treasured “3 CD buying limit”. “Black Clouds & Silver Linings” earned one of those spots (next to Judas Priest “Greatest Hits” & “City of Evil” by Avenged Sevenfold)…the track titles just piqued my interest. What a glorious weekend that became…fond memories. Music was a mystery; the journey of discovery was a joy, and very dear to me.
@chadhoward07
@chadhoward07 Жыл бұрын
@17:00 that's one of john electric guitars that has a piezo pickup that gives an acoustic sound. I can tell it's an electric guitars by how crisp the strings sound.
@AdrianSmithRocks
@AdrianSmithRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Dream Theater are the masters!
@jb_50w78
@jb_50w78 3 жыл бұрын
Count of Tuscany is definitely one of my favorite DT songs. Very glad you chose to react to this! It’s great to see how much you appreciate how great and also how well written this song is!
@Necromanos
@Necromanos 3 жыл бұрын
This song is has purposely Rush influences. It's awesome!
@j.r.1030
@j.r.1030 3 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping you’d have a strong reaction to Jordan’s little piano motif leading to the end of the song!!! For all of his wizardry, that haunting piano lick is one of my favorite things he’s ever played. Thanks for explaining the theory behind it carrying through that progression!!!
@jorgesalochx8133
@jorgesalochx8133 3 жыл бұрын
If you think this is a mini movie, please listen to the Scenes From a Memory album as a whole (from this same band), it is a fantastic conceptual album!
@RiseofPerfection
@RiseofPerfection 5 ай бұрын
This is just a song that everytime I listen to it, it just gets me to lean back and enjoy it from start to end. So well tied together. And thanks to you I now kinda understand why it feels so well tied up!
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