Spectralism: An Introduction

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Classical Nerd

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0:00 I: What is Spectralism?
5:03 II: Historical Precedents
11:03 III: French Spectralism
25:23 IV: Romanian Spectralism
32:41 V: Georg Friedrich Haas
36:44 VI: Conclusion
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📚 Sources/Further Reading:
“A Provisional History of Spectral Music” by Julian Anderson (Contemporary Music Review [CMR], 2000, Vol. 19/2, P. 7-22)
“Modern Music and After (3rd Edition)” by Paul Griffiths (Oxford University Press, 2010)
“Timbre Versus Spectralism” by Livia Teodorescu-Ciocănea (CMR, 2003, Vol. 22/1+2, P. 87-104): doi.org/10.1080/0749446032000...
“Clashing Harmonic Systems in Haas’s ‘Blumenstück’ and ‘in vain’” by Robert Hasegawa (Music Theory Spectrum, 2015, Vol. 37/2, P. 204-23)
“Romanian Spectral Music or Another Expression Freed” by Horia Surianu, trans. Joshua Fineberg (CMR, 2000, Vol. 19/2, P. 23-32)
“Spectralism Today: A survey of the consequences for contemporary composition of the French Spectral School of the 1970s and 1980s” by Philip Singleton (PhD thesis, University of Surrey, 2015)
“Spectralism” by Jonathan Harvey (Contemporary Music Review, 2001, Vol. 19/3, P. 11-14): music.arts.uci.edu/abauer/spe...
“French Spectralism: From the Frequency to the Temporal Domain: Analysis, Models, Synthesis … and Future Prospects” by Anne Sedes, trans. Wieland Hoban, from “Foundations of Contemporary Composition,” ed. Claus-Steffen Mahnkopf (Wolke Verlag, 2004, p. 118-29)
“Melody on the Threshold in Spectral Music” by James Donaldson (MTOSMT 2021, Vol. 27/2): mtosmt.org/issues/mto.21.27.2...
“Spectralism. Spectral composition techniques” by Iuliana Porcos (Bulletin of the Transylvania University of Braşov, 2017, Vol. 10/2)
“The Spectral Legacy” by John Croft (Journal of the Royal Musical Association, Vol. 135/1, P. 191-7): www.jstor.org/stable/43741611
www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...
eamusic.dartmouth.edu/~larry/p...
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Music:
- Thomas Little: Dance! #2, performed by Rachel Fellows, Michael King, and Bruce Tippette
- Tristan Murail: Désintégrations, performers unknown [original upload: 4basuUUatf8]
- Gérard Grisey: Partiels, performed by the Asko ensemble [original upload: 1v7onrjN6RE]
- Richard Wagner: Prelude to Das Rheingold, performers unknown [original upload: _1zsSaLiD7Q]
- Giacinto Scelsi: Four Pieces on a Single Note, performers unknown [original upload: 9I0QIRXcbZ4]
- Per Nørgård: Voyage into the Golden Screen, performed by the WDR Sinfonieorchester [original upload: Ty1fjlN2kuc]
- Karlheinz Stockhausen: Stimmung, performed by Collegium Vocale of Cologne conducted by Karlheinz Stockhausen [original upload: 3hPkJW95jsw]
- James Tenney: Spectral CANON for CONLON Nancarrow [original upload: hUrfKBnQ9a4]
- Jonathan Harvey: Mortuos Plango, Vivos Voco [original upload: 0T-H-fVlHE0]
- Tristan Murail: Gondwana, performed by Orchestre National de France conducted by Yves Prin [original upload: 87-6mahJMgw]
- Clarence Barlow: Çoǧlu Otobüs İşletmesi, performed by Herbert Henck [original upload: alrB_pgM9eM]
- Claude Vivier: Lonely Child, performed by Marie-Danielle Parent and the Orchéstre Métropolitain de Montréal conducted by Serge Garant [original upload: qrIA2KbJkaE]
- Corneliu Cezar: Aum [original upload: vy-w82ixW3U]
- Horaţiu Rădulescu: Credo, performed by Stephan Breith, Ulrich Heinen, and Othello Liesmann [original upload: etI06pyL7As]
- Georg Friedrich Haas: in vain, performed by Klangforum Wien conducted by Sylvain Cambreling [original upload: BdaX8yWBWtY]
- Georg Friedrich Haas: String Quartet No. 1, performed by the Kairos Quartett [original upload: 1jadUqWXYAw]
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@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
*INFORMATION AND SHOW NOTES* The first 1,000 people to use the link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/classicalnerd09221 *Show notes/clarifications:* - In general, the line between proto-spectral, spectral, and post-spectral composers can be murky-more so than for many other techniques, schools, or trends in contemporary music. You may disagree with me putting Tenney and Haas into a more spectral camp while excluding Saariaho, and that's fine; I think it serves well to illustrate how elusive these terms are. 27:58 - Rădulescu _escaped_ to Paris. I did a video (pronouncing his name even more poorly than here!) some years ago, which provides a little more detail about his life, but much less about spectral technique. 32:28 - Daniel Kientzy [ kientzy.pro/en/biography ] does _far_ more than just work with Romanian spectral composers. I didn't want to imply that that's the only thing that he does. 37:44 - Originally a piece of IRCAM software called _Orchidée,_ it's since become _Orch-Idea_ [ www.orch-idea.org ], which allows for interface with Max/MSP as well as doubling as an English pun that illustrates what, exactly, it does: orchestration ideas. 38:12 - I'd like to thank new $2 patron *ScriabinAddict53,* who joined up after this video had already been rendered and submitted for sponsor approval. Finally (for those who have clicked through), a word about sponsorships: the PhD-student life puts enormous pressure on my time. Regardless of my passion for making this content, it isn't financially sustainable without sponsorships. Without Skillshare stepping in, it'd be unlikely that I'd be able to carve out the time to produce monthly videos.
@kgroveringer03
@kgroveringer03 11 ай бұрын
Sadly we lost the amazing spectral composer Kaija Saariaho a couple weeks ago. May she be remembered through her music for decades to come. Rest in peace.
@UnaMoscaEnLaPared
@UnaMoscaEnLaPared 7 ай бұрын
Saariaho was indeed a great composer, but she's not an spectralist.
@themoonfleesthroughclouds
@themoonfleesthroughclouds 7 ай бұрын
*post-spectralist
@lightyagami1058
@lightyagami1058 Жыл бұрын
There's this amazing composer named Thomas Little, you should do a video on him sometime.
@thestupidfreakingcow
@thestupidfreakingcow Жыл бұрын
there were an awful lot of names being thrown around in this presentation, light kun. I sure hope you weren't taking notes.
@theangryginger7582
@theangryginger7582 Жыл бұрын
I would really like to hear him talk about his own music more, although it's possible that he has and I've just missed it
@mikeytaylor3901
@mikeytaylor3901 Жыл бұрын
A video on Conlon Nancarrow would be really cool
@Sevish
@Sevish Жыл бұрын
The minor triad can be represented in the (harmonic) overtone series as 10:12:15. It's there, but its root is the 5th harmonic instead of the fundamental.
@timepaintertunebird8160
@timepaintertunebird8160 Жыл бұрын
Hey look a spectralist composer!
@NateSassoonMusic
@NateSassoonMusic Жыл бұрын
There's likely a particularly high concentration of people watching this video and in this comment section who are very grateful for your scale generator website, myself included.
@dhjerth
@dhjerth Жыл бұрын
"Right on, I wonder who this enlightened music lover is!" "Oh, it's Sevish... yeah that makes sense."
@doesthishavetobearealname7647
@doesthishavetobearealname7647 Жыл бұрын
Ah, but what about 16:19:24, That's a minor triad over the root(well an octave of it but we treat octaves as the same pitch)
@meruscales
@meruscales Жыл бұрын
@@doesthishavetobearealname7647 16:19:24 has a much higher complexity than 10:12:15. You could also use 6:7:9 to get a lower complexity. I am a big fan of 22:26:33, which sounds almost identical to 16:19:24
@DrClocktopus1
@DrClocktopus1 Жыл бұрын
As a synth nerd this is super fascinating. Resonates with my obsession timbre and overtones as primary over melody or rhythm.
@oscargill423
@oscargill423 12 күн бұрын
"Resonates"
@MichaelSidneyTimpson
@MichaelSidneyTimpson Жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the best summations of spectralism done in a coherent way. I am very happy about your inclusion of Romanian spectralism. I am wondering if you are considering a follow-up on Hyper-Spectralism (Romania) and Saturationism (France), especially considering the wonderful female Romanian composer Avram.
@GuitarbenderS
@GuitarbenderS Жыл бұрын
How am i only now discovering this channel?? This rules. 20th century music rules. Instant sub.
@hindemith1922
@hindemith1922 Жыл бұрын
There is something really captivating about Grisey's music. A few years back, i wished for a record of Les Espaces acoustiques as a Christmas present.
@rloomis3
@rloomis3 Жыл бұрын
I was somewhat familiar with Grisey, Murail, and some of their students, as well as with several of the other composers you discuss here, but the Romanian spectralists are all new to me. I consider myself someone who knows a fair amount about 20th-century music; how exciting to find something completely unfamiliar! I'm rather surprised I hadn't come across your channel before. I look forward to exploring more of it.
@NateSassoonMusic
@NateSassoonMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making your videos, fantastic work!
@windowtrimmer8211
@windowtrimmer8211 Жыл бұрын
Haas’s “in vain” is extraordinary not only for the harmonic battle that you mention, but also for the overall form. The music seems to analyze itself during the course of the formal argument. For example: The perpetual downward runs that open the piece, and which recur later, are at one point gradually slowed down to near stasis, allowing one to hear the individual chords that earlier whizzed by. It turns out that they are almost conventionally beautiful, with heavy emotional weight. Yet Haas has said that it’s the other sections-the lights-out episodes based on overtone harmony-which represent the more “ideal” music, a sort of glimpse into a Utopian rainbow land. An epochal work, a masterpiece quite unlike any other.
@MaxIsBackInTown
@MaxIsBackInTown Жыл бұрын
Well alright now! I enjoy all of your videos but especially excited for this one!
@elizaldecomposer
@elizaldecomposer Жыл бұрын
This is such a good video! So dense with information, but presented very clearly.
@brendanward2991
@brendanward2991 Жыл бұрын
Another great lecture! This is all new to me.
@incognitoincognito7390
@incognitoincognito7390 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Per Nørgårds use of spectralist techniques is actually far more extended and varied than is mentioned here. Just look at his piece for organ "canon" and of course his 3'rd symphony! Again fantastic video
@mihordeadana2368
@mihordeadana2368 3 ай бұрын
this video is sooo good, many many thanks for your work🎉
@josephhellweg3763
@josephhellweg3763 Жыл бұрын
I adore your work! Thank you so much for your brilliant and generous spirit!
@brendaboykin3281
@brendaboykin3281 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Thomas. Good to see you again. Above my head, but I'm all in, Maestro 🌹🌹🌹🌹
@Fruitcake68
@Fruitcake68 Жыл бұрын
Love this video! My senior project in college was an analysis/explanation of Grisey's Vortex Temporum. While I don't listen to a ton of spectral music these days, I still feel a strong connection to it and enjoy the occasional delve back into the music 😊
@timcollins5349
@timcollins5349 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Thomas. This was a well researched episode and most appreciated. Congratulations. Very enjoyable!
@ambientideas1
@ambientideas1 Жыл бұрын
Very informative introduction to this genre.
@artemlyubchenko3022
@artemlyubchenko3022 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I've been waiting for this video for a long time. Romanian spectralism is a completely new thing to me, I've heard of Radulescu briefly, but haven't actually listened to his music, I look forward to exploring more!
@terenssotiri1683
@terenssotiri1683 Жыл бұрын
Doing an analysis exam in Italy about a guitar piece written by Murail, "Tellur". Thank you for creating this content, it really helped me out to have a wider knowledge about spectralism without having to spent countless hours finding sources and read them. Great job
@guitarquartet
@guitarquartet Жыл бұрын
very interesting indeed! I played (electric) guitar on a Grisey piece at The Proms in London a few years ago - I had no idea he was a spectralist! I will definitely be watching this video again as it's full of great stuff to check out, many thanks!!!
@dis.infectant
@dis.infectant Жыл бұрын
Alright. Who else managed to see wild man Dumitrescu on his short US run a few years back? Incredible, just needed more volume.
@wpark1991
@wpark1991 Жыл бұрын
I am a huge classical music nerd myself as well as a former classical pianist and I am so addicted to your channel. I love that you cover both the major and sadly forgotten composers. I requested Albeniz previously somewhere but I'd be so thrilled to see Kabalevsky, Ibert, and Babadjanian as well! Pretty please!!
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
Duly noted: www.lentovivace.com/classicalnerd.html
@sadjadh.tayebie2759
@sadjadh.tayebie2759 Жыл бұрын
This film is very useful and also it took a lot of time to make...so thank u Mr. Little. wish you the best.
@brucebennett5338
@brucebennett5338 Жыл бұрын
nice overview. i'm a big fan of murail and grisey (and saariaho and harvey!).
@averagehooligan620
@averagehooligan620 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this! What a wealth of knowledge :)
@FelipeTellez
@FelipeTellez Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see you do a deep dive on synthesis and analogue tools. These really are a new class of tools to work with! Very nice work, I love your video essays
@FelipeTellez
@FelipeTellez Жыл бұрын
especially from an academic's perspective, I think the work of Allen Strange might be of interest to you in the realm of synthesis
@jojena_imm
@jojena_imm 8 ай бұрын
what a great and informative video/lecture 🙏🙏🙏
@kylepieczynski9576
@kylepieczynski9576 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, it's a good one
@ringsystemmusic
@ringsystemmusic Жыл бұрын
OK so I’m a drone musician myself and it’s fascinating to hear about things I’ve been developing myself from a different perspective, albeit from the perspective of waveforms not the harmonic series. I’ll have to follow this rabbit, thanks for the stimulating and informative presentation!
@unoaotroa
@unoaotroa Жыл бұрын
To offer some insight, just working with waveforms is not so far from working with the harmonic series if, when you work, you take into account the relationships between different waveforms, both in frequency and amplitude. I think the beauty of working with the harmonic series is that it ties together the physical, the aesthetic and the conceptual realms very seamlessly. For an intuitive introduction and development into this concept, I recommend you to check out W.A. Mathieu’s book ‘Harmonic Experience’. The first few chapters dwell on dronality. I reckon it will have a significant impact on your practice.
@aaronpolichar7936
@aaronpolichar7936 Жыл бұрын
I've written a few electronic drone compositions, and I actually did work with notes and the harmonic series similar to how spectral composers do, although I wasn't really very aware of spectral composition at the time.
@igorabdoaguilar9331
@igorabdoaguilar9331 Жыл бұрын
very nice video! It was a wild ride studying the spectral movement in College. My teacher knows these people, José Augusto Mannis, check out his music it's freackin awesome. When we mentioned about our interest in spectral music his answer was "oh really? cool, I was part of the movement in Paris". All our jaws hit the floor. This happened somewhat frequently, like when we mentioned pieces and he was like "yeah I remember.... I recorded the debut....". Seeing a well made youtube video like this really brings glee to my heart on sharing about this paradigm of music. Especially since you layed out perfectly how the composer's feel about the label "spectralist". It is kind of seen as a discipline without a proper name. Almost if applied acoustics would make more sense. Btw, curious that you mentioned Wagner as a precursor, normally we mention Debussy, as if you see his "harmonies" of dissonance and cossonance as rough and smooth, his music has a very diferent perspective. Although still very coherent. Writing music, using these techniques doesn't feel like your a "spectralist" more like your using a "contemporary harmony/orchestration", although even that is reductionist. But it still feels within that "type" of category of discipline in music. And I feel you had a great exposition on how people think of this and perceive it. I'd be curious if you mention Live Electronics and other ElectroAcoustic Music that derive/intertwine with this paradigm. Peace from Brazil
@Ivan_1791
@Ivan_1791 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to make good use of this at some point. Thanks for the video.
@FALCOY
@FALCOY Жыл бұрын
Excellent.I learned so much!
@Jinkaza1882
@Jinkaza1882 Жыл бұрын
Always glad to you get a notification of a new vid. Thanks man.
@zootook3422
@zootook3422 Жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate this episod and I found some new favorits. Thank you!
@ataoz5487
@ataoz5487 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video!
@MrInterestingthings
@MrInterestingthings Жыл бұрын
Amazing directions cited here ! I only knew of the Romanian Radelescu so finding out that many Romanians were investigating the spectra and questioning issues some ten yrears before the French was great news . Wonderful that you traced roots of this trend all over the world !
@scottglasgowmusic
@scottglasgowmusic Жыл бұрын
Thank You! Cool video
@Nitumanov
@Nitumanov Жыл бұрын
Amazing content! Keep it coming, so insightful and direct. Thanks. P.S. just a suggestion from a new fan, i think you might benefit from better lighting and color processing))
@stefan1024
@stefan1024 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@eai554
@eai554 Жыл бұрын
Always love your videos, finding them immensely informative and fun, but you have out-done yourself here. This video caused me to realize, among other things, how much I truly admire spectral music and how much I have missed luxuriating myself in it in all of its forms, as I have not listened to this music much in the past few years. And, as much as I find the French spectralists mesmerizing, I have always found the roumanian spectralists more intriguing and flat-out weird. Great job and keep up the good work.
@vrixphillips
@vrixphillips Жыл бұрын
you're living my high school dream and i love it for you
@Hulloder
@Hulloder Жыл бұрын
Great video! I learned a lot.
@Kolutic4723
@Kolutic4723 Жыл бұрын
At last the wait was worth the wait
@alessandroseravalle8674
@alessandroseravalle8674 Жыл бұрын
Thank you... very interesting!
@yd6484
@yd6484 Жыл бұрын
loved the video 💪💕
@HarDiMonPetit
@HarDiMonPetit Жыл бұрын
Great video! Didn't know Romanian spectral ism : thanks a lot for this discovery.
@hectorhernandez215
@hectorhernandez215 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much...this channel is like a Conservatory after graduation....big helpful information....🙏
@jonathanparrycomposer
@jonathanparrycomposer 8 ай бұрын
Great video - and I really like the pacing on this one...not as frenetic as other offerings 😁
@fishingfortrees7292
@fishingfortrees7292 Жыл бұрын
Didn't expect this. Cool.
@jbarrichello
@jbarrichello Жыл бұрын
great content! thank you
@schmeeps7465
@schmeeps7465 Жыл бұрын
I've always been interested in the harmonic series as a universal expression of music. Seems as though spectralism can be understood as cross cultural. Great video!
@body_drift
@body_drift Жыл бұрын
Woo!!! Exciting!
@prestoncaprese7416
@prestoncaprese7416 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@paulmertens5522
@paulmertens5522 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@veronikazadera317
@veronikazadera317 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps a video on Yngve Sköld?
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
Duly noted.
@pianomanhere
@pianomanhere Жыл бұрын
Tristan Murail's "Désintegrations" is one of my favorite spectralist pieces, among many others.
@good.citizen
@good.citizen Жыл бұрын
thank you
@kukumuniu5658
@kukumuniu5658 Жыл бұрын
Hi,I have to questions :) - do you know any classical "songs" in which we have harmonic Major/ionian b6 or any modes of harm. Major?? - what is/are,most problematic hands/fingers movements on guitar during chords changes of course? Your top 10 :) which part of which compositions?
@creativeartspsychotherapy
@creativeartspsychotherapy Жыл бұрын
Nice!!🌹
@arhont2009
@arhont2009 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I've just discovered this channel Have you done anything on Arvo Pärt before? Would really love to hear your take on him
@geeksandfilms4118
@geeksandfilms4118 Жыл бұрын
If I can make a suggestion for a composer you should cover, I’d love to see an episode about Anatoly Lyadov. His piece Kikimora is one of my favorite pieces of all time.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
Duly noted.
@faubusmingus5982
@faubusmingus5982 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on moondog?
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
Duly noted.
@MH7919
@MH7919 Жыл бұрын
Ana-Maria Avram was great and part of Romanian Spectral scene. will be nice to have something about her and add some perspective to the typical all male narrative ..
@wellurban
@wellurban Жыл бұрын
Really informative, thanks! I’d heard of Murail and Grisey and was intrigued by what I’ve heard of their work, and it great to know more. I wonder: would Eliane Radigue vaguely fit into Spectralism? Her influences are mostly from musique concrète and Buddhism, but she often used analogue filters to pick out the harmonics from electronic tones as part of long, hypnotic drones, and has been working more recently with acoustic instruments in ways that emphasises subtle shifts in timbres more than traditional harmonic movement.
@HHCronikO
@HHCronikO Жыл бұрын
I was thinking along those lines. In fact, I'll pose there is a sinecdoque in between the spiritual dimension and the acoustic dimension of Eliane Radigue's works. And however unintendedly, spectral depth always seemed to me her fundamental aim, albeit perceptually slightly subdued by the ongoingness of the droning.
@arrowfitzgibbon7775
@arrowfitzgibbon7775 Жыл бұрын
Take: Glenn Branca as proto - serialist. Question for the masses: anyone know how to get scores for his early symphonies?
@arrowfitzgibbon7775
@arrowfitzgibbon7775 Жыл бұрын
Oof.*proto - spectralist
@josemarialacarra8554
@josemarialacarra8554 Жыл бұрын
I was hearing some of the composers during the video and I was thinking Scelzi has to be a precedent. Great video.
@mikeytaylor3901
@mikeytaylor3901 Жыл бұрын
also bookshelf tour please. What are your favorite books on music/musicians
@NathanielSkinnerMusic
@NathanielSkinnerMusic Жыл бұрын
Wonderful: Couldn't agree with the conclusion any more. 😀
@stalkerstomper3304
@stalkerstomper3304 Жыл бұрын
Awesome presentation and topic! Very well prepared my friend. I personally loathe almost everything beyond the late romantic era, but I still respect the skills these masters had, even if their compositions sounds horrible to me in comparison to traditional composers. Thanks for the upload!
@mintonmiller
@mintonmiller Жыл бұрын
Oh I know that I am not exactly the target audience for this video. I am basically a three chord country music kind of guy. But I find these concepts interesting. And I have been considering something along these lines in my own recordings however trying to keep a chord structure and melody line going. I know it’s not the same thing that you’re talking about here but again it was very interesting. Thank you very much.
@unoaotroa
@unoaotroa Жыл бұрын
In the context of your musical practice, I think the spectralist attitude would be most helpful and make the most sense to apply in the composition and manipulation of timbre. You could start by thinking how does the sensations provided by a chordal instrument differ if its timbre differs. For example, if you use an electric guitar, crank the volume of its amplifier and pay attention to the particular sonic qualities that arise by using different pickup, tone control, volume control and playing attack combinations. The next step towards manipulating the possibilities of this experiment would be to delve into the electronic modifications that can be made to the instrument’s circuit to enhance a particular sonic quality or behavior of the circuit, which is a rabbit hole of its own but very much worthy of exploring too. I hope this information helps!
@mintonmiller
@mintonmiller Жыл бұрын
@@unoaotroa It helps a lot. The thing is, I have been thinking about this for quite some time I just never knew there was a name for it all. For instance, oh I love the open de note on guitar. De 3 just sends chills down my spine. I love that note and I can’t explain why. I have thought about writing a composition just around the D chord using mostly slide resonator style guitar. A.k.a., dobro. Playing around the D chord I have two dobros in different tuning‘s and can re-to notes to help me fine different sounds different octaves. And then maybe some mandolin on top of that. I’ve contemplated it for a while just never have gotten around to it. The fact that I do not read or write music and will be doing it all by ear makes it problematic but I know that I can do it because I have been riding gospel songs for 30 years.
@WalyB01
@WalyB01 Жыл бұрын
Dare I say any good symphony as a component or element of spectralism in it. Choice of who and when together for which melody is essential.
@achoikomposition
@achoikomposition Жыл бұрын
I am enjoying your quality educational contents as usual, but If you could talk about Aaron Cassidy composer, it would so very great. He is distinctive, fascinating and unusual :)
@machida5114
@machida5114 Жыл бұрын
agree
@mairaleikarte43
@mairaleikarte43 7 ай бұрын
I laughed at the sound intro. Good.
@tukoijarrett9155
@tukoijarrett9155 Жыл бұрын
It seems like spectralism could be an interesting starting point to talk about the composition of various genres of electronic music. I haven't yet finished the video as I type this, but I'm wondering if anyone has done spectral compositions that make use of additive synthesis.
@tukoijarrett9155
@tukoijarrett9155 Жыл бұрын
15:22 Oh, well there you go
@NevetsTSmith
@NevetsTSmith Жыл бұрын
The Romanian spectralism reminds me of some of the drone metal by groups like Sunn O))
@sarahaprincesa
@sarahaprincesa Жыл бұрын
Wow 😮
@victorgoemans8644
@victorgoemans8644 10 ай бұрын
Great content, thanks so much! There is one passage that I did not completely understand: "One thing that sets Radelescu aside from other Romanian spectra lists is his affinity for what Teodore (some Romanian surname) calls 'mimetic spectralism'. Mimetic spectralism pitches harmonic and inharmonic spectra against each other to create tension." Could you elaborate a little bit on what you mean by that? A Google search hasn't really yielded any useful results.
@musicplaylists64
@musicplaylists64 Жыл бұрын
37:44 What was that computer program called? Very curious.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
See the show notes in the pinned comment.
@musicplaylists64
@musicplaylists64 Жыл бұрын
I see. Thank you!!
@LovevonMelenEkman
@LovevonMelenEkman Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe this was recommended to me by the algorithm. Such luck today!
@user-xu4xw6jm7d
@user-xu4xw6jm7d Жыл бұрын
hell yes
@Quadr44t
@Quadr44t Жыл бұрын
4:20 Isn't rhythm the only factor here? At small enough timescales, rhythm becomes pitch to our ears, and at even smaller you also get timbre (assuming the dominant pitch here is the root note). But maybe I am getting ahead of myself ^^
@Jorge-xf9gs
@Jorge-xf9gs Жыл бұрын
What music is playing in 11:03?
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
That should be part of _Désintégrations._
@Jorge-xf9gs
@Jorge-xf9gs Жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalNerd Thanks! It really made me feel something.
@ylaaaaarous
@ylaaaaarous 4 ай бұрын
if we need to talk about spectral music, we have to talk the first man: Toshirō Mayuzumi, and now the second spectral musical school: Philippe Hurel, Philippe Leroux, Jean luc hevare. there are more important than Hass.
@zackmaster79
@zackmaster79 Жыл бұрын
What the link to the program in this video
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
See the show notes.
@hetmanjz
@hetmanjz Жыл бұрын
Ana-Maria Avram seemingly left out of the roll call of Romanian spectralists.
@JamieBarnes11
@JamieBarnes11 3 ай бұрын
What's the software mentioned at the end?
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd 3 ай бұрын
See the show notes in the pinned comment
@JamieBarnes11
@JamieBarnes11 3 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'd looked in the video description but somehow didn't think of the pinned comment. @@ClassicalNerd
@al_gc1703
@al_gc1703 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning Saariaho, she’s a rockstar of spectralism!
@ecp2014
@ecp2014 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Tristain Murail was still teaching composition while I was at Columbia University in the early 2000s. As an undergraduate, I never had a class with him personally, but all my TA's did! I also got to attend a performance of "Winter Fragments," which was my first exposure to the "IRCAM sound" of mixed live music and bell-like electronics that you describe. This video was quite a nostalgia trip for me! The influence of Spectralism was all over the music department at Columbia, and even the undergrads had to analyze Grisey's Partiels, along with Varese and some of your other mentions. After college, I was less and less involved with new music and I now work in the visual arts. But I've always clung to the Spectralists' central insight about the unity of harmony and timbre. It has a retrospective power, so that you can almost understand earlier music through a Spectralist lens. (One teacher began class by playing Partiels and the overture to Montverdi's Orfeo overture back to back!)
@jimvandersteege
@jimvandersteege Жыл бұрын
At 23:33 the automatically generated subtitles oscillate between [music] and [applause]
@oritdrimer4354
@oritdrimer4354 Жыл бұрын
I would like a video about Dmitry Kabalevsky.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
Duly noted.
@vannigio6234
@vannigio6234 Жыл бұрын
uah! i did not know anything about all this... uah, thank you! 🐻👍👍👍 🌜💥🌛
@DGA8787
@DGA8787 Жыл бұрын
Next please consider Pierre Schaeffer and particularly his 'Traité des objets musicaux' (newly translated), its influence/analogues then and now (spectromorphology of Smalley Thorensen et al, acousmatics, other offshoots, modern manifestations classical or not etc). Thank you, this made my day.
@unoaotroa
@unoaotroa Жыл бұрын
And don’t forget, also, Michel Chion’s exegesis of Pierre Schaeffer’s theories on ‘Guide to Sound Objects’!
@themoonfleesthroughclouds
@themoonfleesthroughclouds Жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video on Matilde Capuis?
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
Duly noted.
@machida5114
@machida5114 Жыл бұрын
how about brahms?
@Kurtlane
@Kurtlane Жыл бұрын
Corneliu Cesar's "Aum" sounds very close to American blues. Just a few minor corrections, and it will be blues. There is something of spectralism in some blues, isn't it.
@ClassicalNerd
@ClassicalNerd Жыл бұрын
There's a connection between "blue notes" and the harmonic series, for sure!
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