What's The Difference? Two Oliver 1900s that aren't the same - Aumann Vintage Power

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[@wildbill0088]

Really wonder if a lot of folks just forget the triple digit Olivers (770, 880, 990) existed sometimes haha

[@deanbarr5740]

Oliver was a great machine. Wished they still made em. Towards the end, they were the best looking tractors in my opinion. Loved the color scheme, and the grills were very nicely made.

[@tomchrisfield7348]

I agree. A lot of tractors were nice, but the Oliver's were the prettiest by far.

[@russianacorns8080]

@@tomchrisfield7348I love the oliver grill and my other favorite is the Farmall 806 “tombstone” grill

[@fredorico41]

Love the GM powered Olivers 🇦🇺🍻

[@bobdyer422]

Beautiful machines! Glad to see such machinery on display!

[@b.abrackus6403]

It makes me sad to see how few tractor brands remain today....We are not better off because of it

[@jamesdiehl8690]

Oliver's were always such great looking and dependable tractors. I use to see tractors sitting in fields rusting, but they were other brands. The Oliver's were sitting in sheds and barns. Like a difference between a Chevy and a Cadillac.

[@bigcharliesmodelgarage296]

Love the Oliver tractors. Thanks for sharing.

[@davidhintz1]

Me too!!!

[@davidbedwell4306]

The checker board Oliver’s ( 4 digits) replaced the triple digit Oliver’s (660/770/880/990) and the triple digits replaced the supers

[@icewaterslim7260]

They actually made an articulated steering Pan Scraper out of the 99 series, there's a short video of it making a pass somewhere on the tube.

[@jaysweet8126]

We had a super 77 that was a hayracking machine loved that tractor

[@tomtom6319]

Definitely awesome tractors. Love the construction model.

[@colinwallace5286]

I used to get to run around on a Cockshutt 1900 in the mid-70’s in Alberta Canada. Nine year old me always wondered why THAT tractor sounded just like the road grader, but it’s little brother the 1850 sounded like all the other tractors I knew about. That version with the front assist was way ahead of the rest. That big old military diff was a happy accident, and that tractor was a lot more nimble than something like a 1066 IH with that oddball open u-joint hub they had.

[@williammolder8372]

Well Mr auctioneer you didn't mention the three digit Oliver's they had a horizontal grill on them!!! They went from the super two digit series to the three digit series and then they went to the four digit series!!! The three digit series had more cubic inches and more horsepower than the super two digits!!!

[@tomjack9632]

Beautiful tractors, especially the green

[@Dextamartijn]

Nice job on the restoration the industrial 1900 they could've done a better job on taping of see there is a bunch of overspray on the front tires

[@mfranzusan3014]

The tires weren't all that great. Only one industrial lug tire on the back that was probably orignal. The fronts being steering tires weren't orignal. They wear out like crazy on any ground. It also seemed to be pointed uphill, which means that either that size of tire didn't translate to a newer size/different manufacturer or it wasn't available anymore.

[@petrokemikal]

Lovely piece of engineering.. !!

[@redironacres]

What about the three digit series after the supers? The Oliver 990 has been forgotten in a couple videos I’ve seen. There is quite a bit of inaccurate information in videos from this channel

[@danjosephson6910]

And as far as displacement the 4-53 is 1 cubic inch smaller than the 3-71 used in the Super 99, 990 and 995 lugamatic.

[@Dragon-Slay3r]

This X can be found on twitter 😂 as sattelites were warned 😂

[@jimsteele7108]

Awesome, thanks!

[@JohnSmith-lw2bm]

Yellow one has a sloppy paint job

[@theda850two]

Yup,, 6 cylinders for 25 years,, but that 2 stroke Detroit wasn't 6 cylinders... Perkins & Waukesha were though.

[@daw162]

imagine comparing that to the deere 830 of the same time. Other than being kind of squat (both of them), talk about polar opposites.

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

Without a doubt, the 1900 was ahead of the 830 in about everything but fuel economy and noise. But the changes Deere had in line were far more graphic. Oliver never abandoned that transmission or shift pattern. The Hydraul Shift was a definite winner but I always thought they should have went to a 5 speed with no range selection. Now, think for a moment what a 4cyl engine made out of a pair of 2 cylinder engines would have yielded in torque. A 730×2= 752 Cubic inches, hp of 120?? Torque to change Earth's rotation if you had too many of them headed the same direction at the same time.

[@alecmcniven1713]

Guess the 990 didn’t exist then 😂

[@Hissing-Syd]

I knew someone years ago who was Oliver mad, I swear if you had cut that boy he'd bleed green.

[@sneakysnake109]

Why is the industrial squatted in the rear. Tire mismatch or was that normal for these tractors?

[@deere7227]

Likely big front drive tires to get right speed ratio with rears

[@nellsonstout7001]

@ DIY Steve Skip to 7:04. It’s explained here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGq0nYmgqd53hJY

[@dwightl5863]

Also noticed that the ag tractor had a generator whereas the industrial had an alternator.

[@cdjhyoung]

Considering both tractors are about 60 years old and the generator to alternator upgrade was common across the industry, you might only be seeing a past owner's upgrade of his equipment, not necessarily a factory change or upgrade.

[@66Oliver]

@@cdjhyoung Alternators we’re introduced on these machines in 1964. should have it. So, the industrial would have one factory installed.

[@randymagnum143]

@@66Oliver in 1959, you could get a Plymouth valiant that came standard with an alternator. Chrysler introduced them across the board in 1960. Interesting to see how quickly they became the standard.

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

@@66Oliver Alternators became regular equipment with the 50 series. The industrial was switched at some point.

[@66Oliver]

@@ThatOliverGuyChris That’s what I was thinking. Regardless, they did start in ‘64. 😂

[@thiagomarchi2249]

CBT 2105 tractor

[@martingardener90]

So the two Olivers that aren't the same actually are the same? 😂 Never very fond of the Oliver front grille but understand they were a pretty reliable tractor.

[@ricardodeluca9194]

C B T Brazilian tractor. 🇧🇷

[@nellsonstout7001]

It’s based off of these tractors

[@nickkercheval2704]

I’ve never understood way so many tractor manufacturers used Detroit engines instead of Cummins. Much less torque with the 2 stroke. I’m sure there is a reason.

[@mfranzusan3014]

Probably the technology in the steel when it comes to the transmissions. You usually found the Cummins in the big Versatiles. The big articulated machines that used transmissions that incorporated planetary gear sets like an automatic in a car.

[@randymagnum143]

Not sure what you mean, the super 99 gm tested at Nebraska put out 504 lb-ft pulled down to 1309 rpm. Seems rather healthy to me. A 453 will hold on long after a 404 Deere or 360 farmall give up. Nebraska quit doing a pull down tq test in the late 50's, only to bring it back in the 80's labeled as tq rise. Not to mention Cummins didn't have a reputation for 100 hp class diesels, and all the 4 stroke v8s of any manufacturer were not worth the iron they were made of. Cummins didn't have a good small diesel until Case designed the b and c series for them.

[@randymagnum143]

@@mfranzusan3014 the 671 in the 8010s proved more than Deere's powertrain could hold.

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

@Randy Magnum 8010 Transmission was from Clark and the axles were Eaton. Deere put it all together as a working show piece as IH also had a large articulated tractor with even more power. It used the old 800 dozer engine with direct start. Hough built the frame as IH and Hough were almost merged by then. Deere recalled the 8010s upgraded the weak points and rebadged them 8020. The Clark Michigan M290s the military used had mixed success. Some guys thought they were a tough machine. Others thought them weak. I know there was a company refurbishing them and also upgrading them into some potent prime movers.

[@damienodonohue1327]

Space!! Incredible power to weight ratio, plentiful supply, excellent back up service, etc 👍

[@mauddjerf6628]

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[@Gugernoot]

Hehe first comment and nothing to contribute.