I've had the exact same experience as you. Went to school learned that scrapers, elbow grease etc the correct way. Got out in the field, even asked others, "what's the best gasket prep?" to which I usually would hear, "the fastest. scotch brite discs". Anyway, perpendicular razor has the lowest damage potential, angled on aluminum will cut chunks. Wet sanding with fine grit and WD seems to get things clean fairly quickly. Also, with the straightedge, put it on the surface and shine a flashlight behind it, look at the straightedge from opposite side and... light can't pass if there isn't a gap.
@roballan49442 жыл бұрын
Yup same here 20yr red seal. Use razor scraper and scotch paper not rolocs. Use a lath fine file and if you need it to be perfect try using Prussian blue where ever it remains is a low spot. Draw file to verify.
@THMSKA Жыл бұрын
I'm at the stage in a refresh for the heads to go back on the motor. This video was really informative and from the research I did, this seems like the better way to go. Good stuff!
@andygilbert18773 жыл бұрын
Always done it using various scrapers and sanding. Everyone did back when I started and it’s served me well. My engines don’t come back.
@johndowe70033 жыл бұрын
Yep, diesel fuel works as a cleaner as well. Toilet brush and a bucket of diesel for first cleaning then finish off with some brake cleen. Good tip for anyone that's not getting a free supply of brake cleaner lol
@andygilbert18773 жыл бұрын
@@johndowe7003 Diesel was all we had when I started, the firm was too tight to buy brake cleaner! Though it was trichloroethane at the time which apparently causes cancer, so maybe just as well.
@johndowe70033 жыл бұрын
@@andygilbert1877 yup we still use diesel to clean parrafin and oil off our rigs. The new style of diesel has a lot of surfactants so it's pretty much the same as soap. It's a game changer for small businesses and independent guys since it's a lost more cost effective.
@andygilbert18773 жыл бұрын
@@johndowe7003 Yep, plus you’ve generally got loads of it! (I worked on heavy equipment & fork trucks) We’d use it as a freeing agent too...leaving seized stuff in it over a weekend rarely fails.
@johndowe70033 жыл бұрын
@@andygilbert1877 yep, dont forget to include shoving grease into holes with threads in them to protect the threads from the elements. i would always do that to equipment that i would put away for later . plus diesel is the best soap for hand washin, just dont forget to rinse off with dawn hah
@jaredfenzlein40792 жыл бұрын
I’m a marine diesel tech, work on mtu man and cat. We clean decks the same way but if you use some wd 40 with some scotch bright pads after the sand paper it will shine the deck up good and pull a lot debri you can’t see by eye out
@aerialrescuesolutions32773 жыл бұрын
Great video. The funny hat guy was totally hilarious, you gotta put him in more videos. Off the chart on that.
@JasonTAho3 жыл бұрын
Diamond knife sharpening block works really good too for block prep.
@claterpillar13 жыл бұрын
Pro tip. Cover rod bearing journals. Before any scraping, or sanding. Don't want debris in oil ports.
@gersonruiz17143 жыл бұрын
If you do get debris in there or in the cylinder, can you just get an oil change to get that out of the system?
@claterpillar13 жыл бұрын
@@gersonruiz1714 on first start up. The debris would hit the new bearings, because that's after oil filter.
@gersonruiz17143 жыл бұрын
@@claterpillar1 how would I get the debris out from on top of the piston head? Mine kinda looks like there’s debris on the edges
@EpicSourTime2 жыл бұрын
You can try using a vacuum to get it out
@bertfromnz90692 жыл бұрын
Good video! - as an aircraft engineer we were trained to lap any flat surface- on a head or block the area between cylinder can be low causing a leak if not spotted
@martinsekinger20057 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying it for me!
@billmoran32193 жыл бұрын
I always tell the younger techs and managers... why is there always time to do it over but never enough time to do it right!
@coolpop193 жыл бұрын
Your so correct!! I'm so done with half-ass ZIP tie and duct tape fixes
@tomast90343 жыл бұрын
@Gilbert Ike good for you..now you know she is not interested in you.
@electric74873 жыл бұрын
@@tomast9034 Gøttem
@tyrel71853 жыл бұрын
@@coolpop19 yeah, F-the zip ties n duct tape. Way better to use band-aids n bubble gum. (Sarcasm for anybody that can’t detect it).
@tyrel71853 жыл бұрын
@Gilbert Ike I hacked her account too. She sure gets freaky on Friday nights when you are out with your buddies.
@davewattles72373 жыл бұрын
Congratulations young man. You recognize what is really important when so many others do not...
@TheFoMoCo19033 жыл бұрын
I started doing this a couple years ago. I too used the roloc but I ran into problems on a 3400 block and that was the turning point for me. It blows my mind how many technicians don't check the block and heads with a straight edge.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think I've ever caught one doing it in the couple shops I've worked on. Even when something leaks and comes back it was usually silicone that they used to fix it 🤯
@creativecreative95823 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe If you are just installing a new head (not liners or anything else)do you still have to straight edge with the liners being in the way?
@Cutecumber125647 ай бұрын
I'm rebuilding my ford 3000 rn, I was wondering if I should you razer blade or die grinder, I've always used razer blade
@larrytalley1173 жыл бұрын
Great information, and spot on when flatness is the critical item. I hope we get to see more of Goofy Cat Guy in the future.
@Darth-Nihilus13 жыл бұрын
Straight edge with the feeler gages was the way I was thought and it takes time but you want to do it right the first then pay for it later
@stevegerow8723 жыл бұрын
Great video! I used it to clean and check the block on my Triumph TR6. Was able to scrape off all the residue using about 15 single-edge razor blades, so didn't require the carbide scraper even though I ordered one. I bought a 100-pack of blades. They were sharper on one side than the other and the first few strokes with a new blade were really effective. Also used paint remover to soften up the gasket residue. Don't recommend that unless the block is out of the car as it's messy. Plain old paint scraper didn't do anything. Razor blades, sanding block & medium emery paper and accurate straightedge all that was necessary for me.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Glad you got a good result out of it and you got it going. Thanks for the comment.
@nickelmickel41703 жыл бұрын
Once scraped clean i use a 5 inch wide half inch thick piece of glass with wet paper going down in grit as I go.👍
@bengreene90723 жыл бұрын
I use the rol-lock for small flanges but nothing more. I replaced the head gaskets on my ford 4.6l and put clean oil soaked paper towels down in the piston bores and used a razor scraper and scotch brite by hand to clean the head gasket surface
@walkertongdee3 жыл бұрын
Doing this after 40 years come to see if things have changed, they haven't this is old school and ill be doing it this way again, nice presentation thanks for the refresher. But I will be packing those holes to keep the debris out...
@monstermudratroddragworth37383 жыл бұрын
Amen to flat sanding, you could look up scraping for machines, thanks for teaching
@redmesa29753 жыл бұрын
8:00 The wooden handle " super scraper " . Carbide edge, awesome scraper. I keep in mind, any crud that goes down the cylinder, could end up in a rod journal oil passage. Cover the journal, or brake clean it out too.
@johndowe70033 жыл бұрын
It's a bare block, no bearings or anything
@robertkemp15873 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I used to clean same way as you and as I've gotten older changed to cleaning similar to this. I wouldn't suggest using air file. Leave the body work tools for the body men. Enjoy your videos as always
@traviscallaway96753 жыл бұрын
Josh, no need to go past the 100 grit for a head gasket. The surface needs a certain roughness. The gasket needs that roughness to keep from slipping. Most all machined surfaces have a recommended rma. Simply put rma is a measurement of the surface roughness. You may well know this, but others may not. I appreciate you making this, and all your videos. Really helps everyone trying to learn about their engines.
@bradleyhovan93902 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen 200-220 grit even for composite… im surprised 100 would be OK
@fredg8199 Жыл бұрын
Bought the carbide scraper to clean the deck on my 6oh. Worked incredibly well.
@nathanhinz20643 жыл бұрын
You would also expect the smooth polished surface the roloc wheel leave to be less effective in other words it would be expected to hold less side pressure prior to failing given a sanded surface leaves very small sharp ridges that would bite into the softer gasket material better preventing any slipping where there’s a narrow strip of bearing such as between cylinders
@xEchoEaglex3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm glad I read down far enough before I basically repeated your comment. Examine the surface of a separator plate as shipped, or a cylinder head in a yellow box. Pretty sure there is some bite designed into the surfaces there.
@SlimeInnaTaco4 ай бұрын
This is like the best video I’ve found. !!!!!!
@VliegerNL4 ай бұрын
REALLY well done. Quality work, a job well done is so much more satisfying that just quick and easy and … not right! :-)
@kevbruggeman33 Жыл бұрын
I ran a cylinder head resurfacing machine for three years the roloc wheel will knock cast iron out about two and a half thousands of an inch I'm in aluminum head it can be up to 10,000 roloc is the worst razor blades Scotch-Brite and brake cleaner you got it right
@James0u8129 ай бұрын
Amen. If you can feel it clean it. Doesn’t matter what it looks like
@longliner205a43 жыл бұрын
I have a precision a aluminum sanding block that I milled perfectly flat and true and I cover it with sand paper and I sand all my gasket surfaces using numerous grits of sandpaper. I also have a very nice set of precision parallels that I setup using a dial indicator to verify the surface.
@gepwxaqdfsidsesg15483 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy who would "machine" has own aluminium cylinder heads. He got a huge thick block of glass and glued sand paper to it. Then he rubbed the cylinder head on it until it was flat. It worked.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
A poor man's machinist.
@tyrel71853 жыл бұрын
Use the sticky back sandpaper and work the head in a figure 8 motion. This is needed on most small engine jobs.
@josefkrakel91363 жыл бұрын
Those zip wheels spray abrasive all over. I think that is a bad idea.
@brettspaulding58553 жыл бұрын
I've been using roloc disks for years. Yes they spray stuff everywhere. But, clean up after yourself.
@jdatwood70863 жыл бұрын
Half assed way to do it though. If time is a concern use the 12” pneumatic sanding board, done in minutes and it’s done perfect.
@reallyhappenings55973 жыл бұрын
gotta clean up with a vacuum, always
@Backyardmech13 жыл бұрын
When doing DIY paint and body work I was taught to run your hands over EVERY surface you sand as you go. To me at me least flat sanding and some touch/feel seems legit for a decent head/block mating surfaces making good sealing contact with a gasket. Shite and briney looks nice, but a proper seal and job brings longevity to the motor.
@theamaturepro4 ай бұрын
An old body guy taught me to use a thin cotton cloth like a t shirt between your hand and the surface. It somehow makes it easier to feel imperfections my bare hand missed.
@deadstroke823 жыл бұрын
Carbide scraper and wipedown with cleaner. Chase threads, clean holes. Remove liners, clean out liner bores and crank. Wipe down again with brake cleaner, check flatness and measure bores. Install everything.
@JT-qf4it3 жыл бұрын
I start out with a scraper then move to flat sanding. I have a 20lb square piece of granite that had been ground flat and smooth. The weight of the granite is enough to do the job, so I just have to go back and fourth in different directions with different grits of wet-dry paper.
@abpsd733 жыл бұрын
An old friend of mine that has built lots of gas engines over the years always block/board sanded the head and block mating surfaces. It's the "old school" method and it works. Just like auto body, blocking will get you a more consistent surface than a goon shoving a D/A.
@johndowe70033 жыл бұрын
Yup seen guys use ceramic tiles and glass tables to surface heads as well. And borax to in the intake to hone/ loosen stuck oil rings cylinders. Cat used to make a powder that gets sucked up through to intake but I don't remember the name of it
@wizard18003 жыл бұрын
I work in a power plant. We do a lot of work where thats close doesnt work. Everything has a given clearance. Make it right the first time.
@yurbeeinwatched3 жыл бұрын
I work on mostly light duty stuff. I start with brake clean and a carbide scraper. Then I use a knife sharpening stone that I keep soaked in transmission fluid. After it is thoroughly cleaned, I wipe it with lacquer thinner. Never had one come back.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Why do you choose lacquer thinner instead of a brake cleaner, cheaper or doesn't evaporate as quickly?
@yurbeeinwatched3 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe It does. I did a stint at a dedicated engine shop for a couple of years. Long story. Mostly Cummins 5.9. Boss sucked, worked outside regardless, even took care of his pain in the ass dog when he was out of town. Dude can build an engine though. That laquer thinner takes it away man. Get a quart and try it.
@akharder6582 жыл бұрын
I remember taking a factory Cummins ISX class and at that time Cummins made it very clear that rolocs and scotch brite were unacceptable for cleaning any mating surface. Especially heads and blocks. They were finding that the abrasive material and debris was ending up in the engine and in some cases plugging oil passages. Local dealer trainer said their techs would get written up if caught doing this.
@ryanhogan65093 жыл бұрын
I like the sharpening stones..
@terminsane3 жыл бұрын
i watched a guy making his cam shaft shiny with a grinder. Im pretty sure theres some serious tolerances being destroyed there.
@bigred12473 жыл бұрын
Hahaha😁
@tyrel71853 жыл бұрын
Don’t buy that car. That’s probably the same guy that put a gallon of methyl hydrate in every tank of gas to make his windshield wipers last longer. Lesson of the day: don’t do drugs while installing a cam shaft.
@emmettboaz3 жыл бұрын
A pair of flat machinist stones or knife honing stones are also a great tool to have in the toolbox. The carbide scrapers have also been a game changer for me.
@bigdeal87 Жыл бұрын
So a knife stone work as well?
@saulgilsenan81223 жыл бұрын
Third time watching this all the way through. Some real gold here for a new tech.
@Wjones4503 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! your a great teacher man. Much respect for what you do! I have some constructive criticism on that long aluminum straight edge...incase your not aware (im sure you are ) , when you make your measurements with the feeler gauge just be careful not to push down on the top of the straight edge. steady the straight edge from the side with your thumb and index finger like your pinching it. believe it or not , but just that little bit of pressure may deflect it just enough to make you think the readings are correct, when in fact they are not or at the very least throw it out a thou or two. just something to consider.
@tyrel71853 жыл бұрын
If a finger pushing down 2 lbs on the straight edge gives you good results with the feeler gauge then properly torqued head bolts with a new gasket will give good results.
@jdatwood70863 жыл бұрын
I like the 12” Ingersol pneumatic sanding board with 80 grit. Use those wiz wheels on a 6.0 power stoke motor and the gasket won’t last 5 miles.. Makes low spots in the deck, especially between cylinders.
@tyrel71853 жыл бұрын
80 is way too coarse. Even 180 is rough for this application.
@scottnelson95503 жыл бұрын
Really like your videos I learn a lot from you thanks
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, you guys are the reason I make the them.
@17th_Street_Preacher Жыл бұрын
Do gasket impression marks/cavitation pose a leak risk?
@Midnight_Rider963 жыл бұрын
I worked 2 years in an engine machine shop. We used wire cup wheels, but always careful not to eat into the metal. And most blocks or heads were getting resurfaced anyway, though quite a few weren't and it wasn't an issue. I do like your method though, using a wire wheel makes a big mess and I wouldn't do it to an engine that isn't fully disassembled and getting jet washed. Lots of places I wouldn't want pieces of wire going on an in frame rebuild.
@thelol17593 жыл бұрын
So hard to teach people about how much more important it is for a surface to be flat than it is shiny!
@behroozkhaleghirad3 жыл бұрын
Me: reads the title Also me: MACHINE IT
@rjward17752 жыл бұрын
I'm just replacing the head gasket, so the pistons are still in. How do I keep debris out of there?
@danokerr99293 жыл бұрын
Id always flat sand blocks and heads on old flat 6 dodge motors. Use a straight edge and feeler gauges to find high and low spots
@barneysievers28882 ай бұрын
If the block isn't going to be thoroughly cleaned in its entirety, I would never use anything abrasive that can contaminate the internal part of the engine block. If u choose to do it anyway, I would painstakingly tape off the cylinders and other internal openings followed by a vacuum after completing the preparation. In looking at the video, u can see the sharp edge on many of the bolt and coolant holes. These should be hit with a tapered counter-bore to break that edge. Also, after scraping and Brakeclean of the surface, the entire deck should be sprayed or brushed with blue machinist layout dye (Magic Marker if u must). This will indicate the low spots in the deck very quickly during the sanding process so that particular attention can be focused on them using the straightedge with a light shining from behind; the suspect area then measured with a feeler gauge for acceptable compliance to specification.
@JordanLePage-e6b5 ай бұрын
How does this change with protruding liners? This is why I always end up scraping and then using Grey scotch pad lightly while chasing with rolls of blue rag and brake clean so I don't "loose" any of the abrasive dust.
@Perumet3 жыл бұрын
Hey how do you feel about bits of debris falling into the coolant and oil holes in the block? Is there potential for damage there or do you consider it negligible?
@keeganfoster17923 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Robertson any small bit should not matter as if u do this you should flush your coolant with water until it is clear! And you should do a oil change shortly after doing this too!
@MrSamsamsammy2 жыл бұрын
Take cheap disposable earplugs and plug any holes you can with those. Saves a lot of work later
@johnboforsyth59708 ай бұрын
That pull hammer you used was pretty cool. Uses Collets?
@chrisdover743 жыл бұрын
We have only used scrapers, razors and oil stones. To keep it flat and true.
@td-61733 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos!
@chrisleggett6853 жыл бұрын
The machined area be it a block,head etc should not be shiney and smooth. When it is flycut there will be very small grooves left. There is a spec for every manufacturrer. Basically x amount of grooves per inch.
@wjb1113 жыл бұрын
GM produced the quad 4 engine that had head gasket issues. They tried many different gasket types and eventually opted for a rougher surface finish so the gasket would bite onto the surface better.
@jaredmayer39603 жыл бұрын
RMS finish...
@12yearssober3 жыл бұрын
That’s how the machine shop I use does it. They also do my flywheels like that as well.
@isaacoranday38223 жыл бұрын
You should make a video of how does the brake system works
@bobbyg54973 жыл бұрын
Looks good - I would add putting some masking tape over the oil gallery holes in the crank.
@soup2nuts19573 жыл бұрын
That machined RM is there for a reason.i never use steel tools.
@em527613 жыл бұрын
I'm going to Scott community college. my diesel teacher showed us to use a straight edge like you did. I was told to scrape and brillo pad and then wire wheel it then blowout all the holes. What's your opinion?
@brentowen94803 жыл бұрын
Skip the wire wheel. The best point I think made in this video is that the flatness is key, not the appearance.
@salad8990 Жыл бұрын
Can I just use the carbide scraper? On a budget here and might not even be worth the extra effort since the block might be cracked.
@jackdawg45793 жыл бұрын
I use quality honing stones rather than sandpaper, but yeah, that's the way to do the job properly.
@joeshreeman86402 жыл бұрын
Can you do a remove/install video of c15 acert turbos? Thanks in advance. Also where can I get one of those dowel pin removers? Can the dowels be reinstalled after being pulled? With the removal tool install them also? Thanks!!!
@mikecont97423 жыл бұрын
Very informative video.
@davidwalle50253 жыл бұрын
Good video. How much time does it to redo the job if the head will not seal.
@EDesigns_FL3 жыл бұрын
Rather than using sand paper, I suggest that you go over machined surfaces with large sharpening stones. They can be kept exceptionally flat using flat stones and they will only remove material that extends above the machined surface. This is how us machinist keep our milling tables clean and free of burrs.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that more than a few times on this video now. I'd never heard of that before though. I have heard of using a large flat file as well. Wondering if perhaps that is also acceptable.
@EDesigns_FL3 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe Files aren't really that flat. So I would not recommend them for this application. As alternative to stones, I would suggest using adhesive backed sandpaper on a very flat and ridge surface, e.g. machined steel, iron, or, even better, granite. Rubber or anything pliable is not suitable.
@charlie2king3 жыл бұрын
Wirewheel works good for cleaning
@davidoneal69693 жыл бұрын
I've used a DA sander with 6" 180 grit discs for years. Works very well to sand down Belzona too.
@darrenrich34923 жыл бұрын
You were a bit aggressive with the Rolocks- needs to sod a-bigger rolock and use it flat- I do it like you do it now on blocks or heads! I still use the polo is on intake and exhaust surfaces.
@chedda28712 жыл бұрын
What on earth is that attachment on the slide hammer that clamps the dowels as you pull it and where can I buy one? Is it CAT tooling? Encounter lots of these dowels in components.
@grumpystruckshop38073 жыл бұрын
Use a DA sander with fine body work disc nice and flat , not too abrasive!!!!
@aussiebloke6093 жыл бұрын
Thankfully, I'm old enough to have been taught to scrape from the beginning. It might not look as pretty, but no one's going to see it once the gasket is in place. The only thing I'd add is to be very careful with the razor-style scrapers when working on aluminium, as it's pretty easy to put a gouge in the metal - and that can ruin all the good work you've done up 'til that point.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that dang Aluminum is hard to clean. Especially with a stuck on gasket. If it is a strong cast Aluminum piece I'll usually lightly tap the gaskets off with a small ball pien hammer, then carefully scrape any leftover pieces. On a thin cast piece like a front structure, it is really tricky as there isn't much material on the sealing surfaces so I usually end up scraping carefully and then maybe a little 600 grit wet sanding, depends though, there isn't a great way I've found yet for thin Aluminum. They need to invent a little ultrasonic wand you could point at the gasket and it would fall off.
@QwertyQwerty-jq3cu Жыл бұрын
Your video is more correct the 90% online. I see so many people using the Rol-Loc disk and wire brushes on aluminum heads and cast iron blocks. If you thought you had a problem before, you for sure do now. You can't be shade tree on today's cars. The problem is, 80% of most mechanics still are. Get the job done ASAP and who cares about the customer. That's why I do all my own work. At least I know it's done right. And I hate doing a job twice. I've been using your process for over 20 years and have never had to do one over unless it was because of another failure of the cooling system I usually get aluminum heads close to mirror smooth.
@jamieg.38293 жыл бұрын
Gotta question. So I have a 2007 T800 with a C13. Now that it's cold out she likes to hesitate. It hesitates all gears until it reaches 150 degrees engine temp. When it hesitates or jerks/bucks, it blows out smokes out of stacks. Once it reaches 150 degrees on engine temp it goes away. Like nothing ever happened. Where should I look first. It has 419k miles. Never had a problem until it started getting cold out. Thanks.
@stevemazzarella72123 жыл бұрын
I agree with u but I don’t know if I could let it go not being shinny... I’ve been doing it that way to long!! I know that’s crazy!!
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Resist the urge man! I know the feeling though.
@tyrel71853 жыл бұрын
Just think of the gasket bro. The 2 surfaces need to work together as a system to perform a task. Lookin’ pretty ain’t the top priority, function is what you are doing the job for.
@sparklingsams31553 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@CJBanks-nc5re Жыл бұрын
I guess it takes almost the same amount of time to prepare the head the same way unless you are replacing it
@Gothisown Жыл бұрын
What should never be used to clean a gasket surface? Never use a razor blade or anything that could scratch the surface. Any scratches may provide a channel or means for fluids or gasses to leak through. Use a brush or scrapper made of plastic or nylon, although it is probably best to use a chemical cleaner.
@flight6.6903 жыл бұрын
The “bro” 🤣
@mechanikbullert6993 жыл бұрын
what about cleaning with scotch brite 3m 07447
@bulkchart32393 жыл бұрын
what do u recommend when it is solely a head gasket replacement and not an entire engine rebuild? i'd think the entire engine would need to be disassembled and cleaned to remove all that sanding grit.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Well doing just a head is a pain because the liners are in the way. Generally I scrape, scrape, scrape, maybe a little wire wheel action between the liners, then making sure the cylinders are clean. I usually vacuum them out, then spray with brake clean and wipe down, then coat with oil and wipe again, then coat with oil.
@Alanthe918mobilemechanic Жыл бұрын
What if ur not removing cylinder sleeves
@noelhohberger11883 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff
@RHDPerformance3 жыл бұрын
It would be a good idea to put towels in the cylinders so you don't get sanding grit on your crankshaft journals and in you oil pan. Eventually that sand could make its way through the engine otherwise great info been watching your videos for a few years
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Yes that is good if the cylinders are still installed, this was basically a bare block with the cylinder packs and bearings removed. Good comment.
@somborn3 жыл бұрын
Not a mechanic, but I would never try to butcher a gasket surface with a grinding tool. On the other hand, if my boss told me so I would not question it.
@andygilbert18773 жыл бұрын
I would question it! (and have) Most bosses I’ve worked for I wouldn’t trust my own engine to. If I’m putting my name to something I’m doing it my way!
@12yearssober3 жыл бұрын
@@andygilbert1877 Bosses in my experience have just enough knowledge to get themselves and others in trouble.
@dazaspc3 жыл бұрын
Any sandpaper on a soft backed holder will radius edges. Your sanding board is bad it should be a flat steel backing or what I use is a couple of precision ground stones to finish a used surface.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
You make a keen observation. I wouldn't say the sanding block is "bad" though, It is perhaps not the best design for this application. The only soft backed one is is the little one with the rounded single handle, all the other ones are firm backed.
@bonidaexpress3 жыл бұрын
i need that cat hat to wear around my 60 series friends they will be so scared🤣🤣
@crazedisme96662 жыл бұрын
So like is hand sanding with p180 bad…. Asking for a friend
@slowpoke96Z283 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a GM or a Cat TSB. Cat should be sponsoring...
@jaredmayer39603 жыл бұрын
I’ve never touched a gasket surface with a power tool. I’m a machinist/millwright and the finish matters. The roloc polishes the shit out of it, dips and rounds everything. No chance for a really good gasket job on anything with the roloc. I never use sandpaper on a foam block either. Scrape it. Best way.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend just scraping only and then just brake clean? I'm not a machinist just a mechanic trying to do the best I can.
@johngoldsmith66293 жыл бұрын
I showed my boss on a block I had to counterbore back in the 90's. Took that roloc disc and took .005 off the edge where the liner seats. That milling surface on the top of the block, is not just for looks. Also the water ferrule holes on top of the block can pit and erode. Using a roloc or wire wheel, you remove the build up. I try and smooth it flat with the top deck to help the seal do it's job.
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
It is a good indicator of the liners sinking though, no milling and you can bet your bottom dollar the liner was wearing there.
@jaredmayer39603 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe it’s the surface finish. There’s nothing wrong with what you’re doing. It will work and you’ve proven it. The RMS finish value matters and when you sand the surface you are removing the roughness machined there on purpose. On a blueprint there is actual surface finish specs marked right on them. The ITP industrial handbooks are the best when it comes to trade knowledge. A Machinist is a really skilled mechanic. Everything comes back to fastener stretch, surface finish and trueness. There’s actually a scientific field about his and you can watch videos on the science of flatness. So when you machine something you actually are making purposeful roughness to ensure gaskets stay fast in location and creep into the “low”spots in the cut and grip on the “high” spots. The gasket literally creeps into the low spots from the machining and it grips the surface in those spots. After you scrape it soak it with WD-40. Softens all the old carbon, graphite and it will literally wipe off to as close to original finish as you can get. When you sand surfaces down I agree it will still be relatively flat but because it’s super smooth the gasket has less “grip”. Too smooth is bad because the gasket will slip around, too rough is bad because it won’t creep deep enough to seal and it will sweat. I always clean the bolt holes threads up first and then use lacquer thinner to finish clean the threads and surface to prep it for the new gasket. It’s cheap and is a powerful solvent. Lint free cloths? Yep, linty cloth? It’s ok just attempt to blow all the lint particles off before you put the gasket on. You are a skilled dude. Just the fact you quit using rolocs and the reason you did totally impressed me. I work by the hour so I have time to do things that some would consider a waste of time (lapping nut contact faces and washers, moly lube on high pressure sliding contact faces, bolt stretch measurement versus torque in some applications) but the quality of my work rides on it. One of my uncles was the first real mechanic I worked with and he was all about the fine details. That’s where I learned the art of really precise work. I usually work on turbine housings, giant compressors, crushers, compactors, and multistage pumps, but the useful torching of hydrocarbons is still my passion.
@jaredmayer39603 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptApe oh an I should mention that this channel is extremely informative and really detailed. Totally practical.
@owenroch4463 жыл бұрын
I do the same as shown, and the leftover is just a stan
@paulg4443 жыл бұрын
why doesnt he stuff rags into the cylinders, isnt he afraid of dropping grit and dirt into the cylinders ?
@AdeptApe3 жыл бұрын
The Cylinders are removed in this engine as well as the camshaft and Cam bearings.
@justinhanson47213 жыл бұрын
Do you do the cam bearings on a job like this?
@johndowe70033 жыл бұрын
Can bearings are out he said that in the video
@Scott-sb1xi9 ай бұрын
DUUUDDEEE!
@Joe-bm4wx3 жыл бұрын
You need to look up hand scraping of machine ways (for lathes, mills, surface plates, etc). Talk about flat!!
@tyrel71853 жыл бұрын
Flat-Yes, smooth-no. This would cause gaskets to fail because way scrapeing creates pockets for oil to sit in. Not what you want for a gasket. 2 different controls as far as geometric dimensioning and tolerancing is concerned.
@HeidiFegles7 ай бұрын
Oh you mean by pro, decking it on a milling machine, cuz that’s what the pros do. But I forgot, I’m the .001 % of machinists, that actually can machine and build anything.
@dysonspreybar49032 ай бұрын
jesus christ, pulling the engine for machining would cost the customer much more money…
@HeidiFegles2 ай бұрын
@@dysonspreybar4903 maybe or cost them if done incorrectly, only you will know the results as a mechanic of your work, and how you did, IV had success doing it this way, Jesus did say let this engine breathe cold air…
@habibmaroonaffara19273 жыл бұрын
Hire me, I'll shoot your videos and work with you I'm a photographer and intermediate mechanic. Maybe an internship something
@Josh-b3c3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about razor blades you could scratch the surface I've always just used a flat scraper with a green Scotch-Brite pad under it and scrub with that
@chevy36ful3 жыл бұрын
I am lucky, drop the block into the hot tank wait 3 hours hose it down, no gasket, Josh what’s you email I will some good fail photo’s.