Cleared Hot Episode 246 - Coffee Time with Evan Hafer

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Evan Hafer is the founder and CEO of Black Rifle Coffee. Prior to his current role he spent twenty years serving this country, first as a Special Forces soldier (Green Beret), then as a contractor for the Central Intelligence Agency, completing multiple tours to Iraq and Afghanistan.

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@seanskip1554
@seanskip1554 Жыл бұрын
Now that we have both Of the CEOs of BRCC here we can get what the people want and that’s some dang poncho liner hoodies back in stock
@Patrick_Bateman____
@Patrick_Bateman____ Жыл бұрын
“Both of the CEO’s”?? We all know Andy is the one true CEO.
@seanskip1554
@seanskip1554 Жыл бұрын
@@Patrick_Bateman____ I’m not trying hurt anyones feelings these days lol if Evan wants to identify as a CEO that’s fine by me
@dacr8928
@dacr8928 Жыл бұрын
Woobie lives matter
@hamschh
@hamschh Жыл бұрын
Quit simping
@kukaliemikalie8157
@kukaliemikalie8157 Жыл бұрын
CEO of Fitter
@rjcarboy
@rjcarboy Жыл бұрын
I'm sure some of you can relate to this. One of the most difficult things in life is to watch a podcast with Evan and Andy, while at work, and try to hold in your laughter. It's quite impossible. I could only imagine the guy next to my office listening to my ass snicker and shoot short bursts of air from laughter, sounding like an absolute idiot orca whale coming up for air every other minute. Thank you gentlemen, for always being awesome.
@michaelchurgin7027
@michaelchurgin7027 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, me too man. They're wildly funny without even trying to be
@abrigman
@abrigman 6 ай бұрын
thinking this exact same thing this morning at the gym, I probably looked like a whack job hysterically laughing for the entirety of my workout
@d.j.ashley
@d.j.ashley Жыл бұрын
Out of Focus Evan is the best Evan.
@aposey75
@aposey75 Жыл бұрын
Ok, so I'm not the only one that was thinking Even's chair back was the focal point.
@johnsheetz7983
@johnsheetz7983 Жыл бұрын
Both of you have a great sense of humor
@stephaniecepeda1097
@stephaniecepeda1097 Жыл бұрын
This episode isn’t complete without Mike glover . #bringbacktheglover
@papabear328
@papabear328 Жыл бұрын
No Glove(r), no love(r) 😂
@tejassingh6800
@tejassingh6800 Жыл бұрын
Osama Bin Glover
@hewhosplanisclosesttogodwi643
@hewhosplanisclosesttogodwi643 Жыл бұрын
Making my Monday start awesome. And yes he is baseline. It’s probably my favourite personality type.
@garrettreid9229
@garrettreid9229 Жыл бұрын
switched to a tension release last month, total game changer. broke me down to the basics and got me to appreciate archery all over again
@justindodge7147
@justindodge7147 Жыл бұрын
love these podcasts!!! thank you guys for the great conversation!
@markspanton2985
@markspanton2985 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for this, I have been laughing my ass off all morning long listening to this.
@robparsons7929
@robparsons7929 Жыл бұрын
I was crying at the stove story. Every trip I have ever taken with buddies of mine winds up the exact same way, and while I may have the mind of a 4th grader, that shit is hilarious.
@michaelchurgin7027
@michaelchurgin7027 Жыл бұрын
Calling Glover"Gaysian" is the funniest thing I've heard this year
@paulwhatever1455
@paulwhatever1455 Жыл бұрын
Here's a scarier exercise with the phones. Next time you're at a stoplight, watch the cars that pass through the intersection and see how many of them are looking at their phone while driving. For me it's usually in the 6-7 out of 10 range.
@bayramtounsi2982
@bayramtounsi2982 Жыл бұрын
David Rutherford coming to Evan and Shawn: WHAT'S UP DUDE?WHERE U BEEN? WHAT YOU BEEN DOING? Evan Hafer: hey bro, seriously, are you always like this? Always wanted to know more about Evan since then X)
@jcc1ked
@jcc1ked Жыл бұрын
I’m 8 minutes into this gem and I’m fucking dying!!!!! Hahahahahaa I love these guys man
@santhony74
@santhony74 Жыл бұрын
13:15 I love doing crap like this. Once I was in the car with a colleague and she needed to take her mom flowers for her birthday. When we got there I grabbed the flowers and walked in pretending to be a delivery boy. I told the mom, who had never met me, that the florist was trying to save paper so we were using body parts to sign for deliveries. I offered my neck or my hand. She looked at me like I had 3 heads but signed the palm of my hand...reluctantly. We all laughed for an hour or so.
@crystalchandler6742
@crystalchandler6742 Жыл бұрын
Than you Evan for starting my week with laughter! i enjoy doing the random Poohoo from the movie Major Payne LOL OMG at 16:10 I cannot breathe im laughing so hard
@r.goodridge6318
@r.goodridge6318 Жыл бұрын
Great episode so far. Cheers gents 🤣
@jonbondavis8725
@jonbondavis8725 Жыл бұрын
Evan..? How can you being the CEO of BRCC go to Scheels and not get absolutely bombshelled with all the SF wannabes???? That’s amazing
@andrewcappiello5585
@andrewcappiello5585 Жыл бұрын
The baby/hamburger and dog suppository made me laugh so hard, i had to shit. Thanks guys.
@RayRayReddington
@RayRayReddington Жыл бұрын
It sounds like Evan’s sense of order is offended by French press coffee.
@ampedturtle4033
@ampedturtle4033 Жыл бұрын
As soon as Evan said vodka in a french press I got excited remembering the old Drinkin Bros days
@domingochavez2552
@domingochavez2552 Жыл бұрын
I am ready for the Shatner-esque pauses
@trevergoick9341
@trevergoick9341 Жыл бұрын
42:42 The Amish-leap! Evan has made it... To the starting line that is! Keep it up!
@ryanconroy7188
@ryanconroy7188 Жыл бұрын
I'm 17 minutes in and am dying lol. Laughing so hard I'm gonna crash on my way to work lmao
@ampedturtle4033
@ampedturtle4033 Жыл бұрын
Saaame!
@yup4792
@yup4792 Жыл бұрын
Andy you have to get DJ Shipley on … what an amazing story !!! He would be an awesome guest !!!
@wesleynichols1997
@wesleynichols1997 Жыл бұрын
In high school in class where we had sinks, I would make this perfect water droplet sound. It used to drive people nuts, they would go try and turn the water off as if it was actually on. Lol loved hearing your guys say you fucked with people
@rc123theycallme
@rc123theycallme Жыл бұрын
Watching a BRCC podcast while drinking Invader Coffee. I don’t give a fuck.
@MsBritanie73
@MsBritanie73 Жыл бұрын
"Can you?". Legend. Perfect blend of brilliance and asshattery as always guys. RLTW. 😘 Sorry Andy. #haferhilarityparexcellence
@internet_internet
@internet_internet Жыл бұрын
If my French press makes me a bad person, I guess I humbly accept. If I’m going to drink brown water, I want it to taste like brown water.
@cb6816
@cb6816 Жыл бұрын
Andy Stumpf, do another agriculture one please, for our California Grandmother's, focus on the fruit trade if you could find someone from Salinas, that'd be interesting coverage from your Domain. King Andy of decent common sense and few, large failures. California loves you. I'm on the fence now.
@austin3598
@austin3598 Жыл бұрын
Is the episode short because Evan is so short?
@ZacharyCox
@ZacharyCox Жыл бұрын
16 mins in and I'm already crying laughing, thank you Evan
@muscular_ninja
@muscular_ninja Жыл бұрын
Hell Yea 🔥
@roselee1974
@roselee1974 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂, love this podcast
@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330
@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 Жыл бұрын
Wait, both “alleged” CEO’s of BRC on the same pod? I call for a Thunderdome. To be fair, the audience will kill each other considering the 2A community can’t get along for shit.
@michaelalligood4622
@michaelalligood4622 Жыл бұрын
I never really noticed until this podcast in how much Evan sounds like Tom Cruise. 😂
@nickalejandro5869
@nickalejandro5869 Жыл бұрын
Is the “my pillow guy” trying to cut into your coffee action? 👍
@adamcarlson6004
@adamcarlson6004 Жыл бұрын
Andy! Reload your Cleared Hot podcast shirts. I want to wear a shirt that causes people to google your show OR causes them to ask me, “Didn’t that guy write Terminal List?”
@to8860
@to8860 Жыл бұрын
Who knew that Evan and Dirk Durham were cousins?!!! That's awesome!!
@sickstringbender1364
@sickstringbender1364 Жыл бұрын
I would mistake Evan for Marty McFly if I didn't know better.
@Dk-rz5hd
@Dk-rz5hd Жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one trolling the Dr during the ultrasound. 😂 I recently started strategically hinting twords my pregnant wife being my sister during the ultrasound or obvious date night dinners or buying flowers. . . Lol my wife tells people she has a beer gut when they ask about the baby in grocery stores. (She's obviously 8 months pregnant but tells people who ask it's just a swollen liver/beer gut) . . we've slowly quit giving a f*ck about everyone else's opinions and only care about amusing our selves and close friends. It started with my gma slowly trailing behind us and faking like she's mobility impaired and very publicly saying to us that we're mean for rushing her. ( My grandma normally walks faster than us in stores and only trolls for people's reactions/personal amusement)
@hulkangry5546
@hulkangry5546 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know if Baker is Mike Baker(ex-cia)?
@EditingWithPopPop
@EditingWithPopPop Жыл бұрын
About the Tagging. I understand that the platforms do restrict us at times. I wonder if Joe's Social Media Team turned off the setting that allows people to tag. Wonder if he was being tagged on some nonsense posts, and they turned off that option.
@kukaliemikalie8157
@kukaliemikalie8157 Жыл бұрын
Itd be interesting if Evan would visit Finland, the coffe land of the world. We use it as fuel.
@wiscokid9890
@wiscokid9890 Жыл бұрын
I live in a town of 3K people and I rarely leave.
@debrafisher7373
@debrafisher7373 Жыл бұрын
Osama bin Glover lmfao😂😂
@stephbrandenburg9957
@stephbrandenburg9957 Жыл бұрын
The twist
@MermaidMusings7
@MermaidMusings7 Жыл бұрын
This was hilarious.
@terrycook477
@terrycook477 Жыл бұрын
I am glad there is an alternative to the trendy liberal Seattle based coffee house franchises......come to Las Vegas!
@jpdive8664
@jpdive8664 Жыл бұрын
The CEO of Folgers is watching this and telling his executive staff that we need to become Special Forces operators.
@nlee2492
@nlee2492 Жыл бұрын
23:40 Yeah, it could be incompetence. But, being that it’s the govt, I really don’t think that they “didn’t know” those symbols are “All American”. They absolutely know. Which is WAY more troubling.
@bray0012
@bray0012 Жыл бұрын
I see the CEO of Black Rifle, but who is this Evan guy?
@partlysunny5402
@partlysunny5402 Жыл бұрын
An anti 2A CIA operator.
@hulkangry5546
@hulkangry5546 Жыл бұрын
I've seen a woman pushing a stroller down the street while looking down at their phone and then crossing a 4 lane road never looking up once.
@ShaunsJeep
@ShaunsJeep Жыл бұрын
We miss ya MIke...
@ruready4ou2rock
@ruready4ou2rock Жыл бұрын
Is Evan wearing the Garmin Tactix 7 Pro w/ballistics calculator? #WatchNerd
@zachcravens4620
@zachcravens4620 Жыл бұрын
someone get the guy coughing a glass of water.
@Frumpy_Mastodon
@Frumpy_Mastodon Жыл бұрын
Rather presumptuous of Evan to assume people who use a french press don't use a burr grinder, weigh the coffee, heat the water up to a precise temp, measure the volume/weight of the water, and control the steep time. As he was rattling off all those things it was essentially just a check list of all the steps I follow when making my coffee iN a FreNcH pResS.
@tonycarpaccio9550
@tonycarpaccio9550 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea what the hell he is talking about when he goes after the French Press. I make my coffee exactly the same every morning, measured, timed, it's completely repeatable and replicated. Idk what his deal is against it maybe if it was the Freedom Press it would be alright haha
@Frumpy_Mastodon
@Frumpy_Mastodon Жыл бұрын
@@tonycarpaccio9550 I know BRCC sells a French press and if they don't already call it that, they need to. I always wanted to know why he thought the French press was so terrible, being the coffee nerd that he is I assumed he had some inside knowledge as to why it was inferior but at least now I know his bias is founded on a false premise. I wonder if he knows a lot of people who use a pour over just eyeball it and don't follow a coffee to water ratio.
@Frumpy_Mastodon
@Frumpy_Mastodon Жыл бұрын
@@tonycarpaccio9550 He's got to be trolling people, his thought process just seems so illogical.
@derekpham6722
@derekpham6722 Жыл бұрын
What time frame he drops osama bin glover
@lwhite530
@lwhite530 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I’m Filipino and I do the pssst (time 12:44) all the fucking time to see who would look! Bwahahahahaha!! I do that shit all the time
@vickyblaskovich9265
@vickyblaskovich9265 Жыл бұрын
Percolated coffee ☕
@squatch2461
@squatch2461 Жыл бұрын
🍻
@r_cubafornia3406
@r_cubafornia3406 Жыл бұрын
Coffee collaboration with Mike Lindell soon? 😆
@msanders777
@msanders777 Жыл бұрын
8:50 my 6 year old nephew called me a cuck! I couldn't help but laugh.
@matthewellisor5835
@matthewellisor5835 Жыл бұрын
I still do but I used to too...
@Ghostridergt
@Ghostridergt Жыл бұрын
Soooo don't watch this episode if you have to wait for your wife to finish physical therapy, she won't be happy about all of the random chuckling you're doing. Ask me how I know...I'm only 13mins in btw 🤣🤣
@hulkangry5546
@hulkangry5546 Жыл бұрын
I thought you didn't edit?
@tsechejak7598
@tsechejak7598 Жыл бұрын
The warning on French press is its French!
@ldn0224
@ldn0224 Жыл бұрын
One has to wonder as I spent 25 years becoming and being an engineer trying to further myself and engineering science. Now I am a white horrible person for doing my service to country and providing a service? This stuff is crazy.
@Cadetff22
@Cadetff22 Жыл бұрын
Andy needs to have Steve Rinella on
@purpskipiff6296
@purpskipiff6296 Жыл бұрын
Was pretty skeptical of Black Rifle Coffee....until I tried it. The PERFECT balance and boost you need every morning lads! YOU GOTTA TRY IT!!!
@BobbyJpure
@BobbyJpure Жыл бұрын
Don’t get the BRCC subscription “Best” of Black Rifle so you wont be disappointed in them.
@70stunes71
@70stunes71 Жыл бұрын
👍🌠
@hatetofail9888
@hatetofail9888 Жыл бұрын
The irony... I'm drinking BRCC coffee right now!!!!!
@MotoNoir86
@MotoNoir86 Жыл бұрын
That’s called coincidence
@randyjimenez3849
@randyjimenez3849 Жыл бұрын
@@MotoNoir86 😂😂😂😂😂 that poor guy
@chrisnorton3123
@chrisnorton3123 Жыл бұрын
@@MotoNoir86 it’s ironic he’s having BR and Evan isn’t or it could be sarcasm.
@DirtSpud
@DirtSpud Жыл бұрын
Those canned BRCC's are dirty....but in a good way. Like an ice cold natty lite.
@requited2568
@requited2568 Жыл бұрын
@@MotoNoir86 or called successful marketing
@dirtwolf7721
@dirtwolf7721 Жыл бұрын
Morning gentlemen good times as always when creepin into listen…Ill make this short probably will go unnoticed anyway but if by chance you guys catch this I hope it may put a different view on whats going on in our country and I know this perspective can be a hard one to swallow but you know how evil life can be unfortunately…I think the issue of what party you vote has absolutely nothing to do with the insanity tearing through the nation, doesn’t matter your political beliefs theres been an ongoing war against the constitutional rights and freedoms enjoyed by all those blessed enough to call themselves Americans, made possible by men (& women) like you…I hate to say it but most if not all of fed agencies have been weaponized against ‘we the people’…Ofcourse theres many rank and file that still serve with integrity and honor to the oaths weve all sworn too however thats not making the cut…how is it that you can be denied your first amendment and be banned on these platforms, how can 90billion of military weaponry be left for them in Afghanistan while breaking laws and disregarding the constitution to rob us of our weapons, how many ppl are aware of all the history of the Bundy Ranch, BLM and Fbi actions during that shitshow, where they were poisonong their water, killing their cattle and burying them in mass graves, literally were actively trying to murder the Bundy family? Amin Bundy was thrown in fed prison for 2 years without ever being charged with a crime, the severity of this came to light when the AIC (cant remember his name) was the one to become a whistle blower because of how egregious the situation was? That was the HRT Team too btw…Our country has been infiltrated and under inversion and subversion, none of this is by accident, burning down of what 15+ of our food processing plants and farms, crackhead pedo hunter, WEF and the ‘Youll own nothing and be happy’ theme as Blackrock buys all housing in the country ect…If none of these few examples is good enough to question some things then Mike should be all you need to know about, how the fuck is that justified? It cant and wont be, anyone that they see as a threat, that being those of us that do love this country and all the freedoms we have esp the ones that keep tyrannical gov from doing whatever they please with you is a threat to the establishment, the ones that control shit arent of stellar character to say the least and going after giys like Mike as well as countless others isnt a slipup or mistake, its make an example out of a frw to discourage others from following suit, hard to grasp but theres been way too many ff and ops run by 3letters to entrap and coerce, look at whats come out about gov witmer, jan 6, some of these active bang situations, the ones pulling the triggers have had regular contact with active and retired agents…’Its easier to fool a man then to convince him hes been fooled’ our eyes and ego and values make us not wanna see whats right infront of our faces sometimes…sorry for the novel, tried to keep it short, as always Thank You for your sacrifices and continued service, you guys are much appreciated, Mike if ya see this you too brother, you have more support than you know🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@hewhosplanisclosesttogodwi643
@hewhosplanisclosesttogodwi643 Жыл бұрын
Looks me up in NS CANADA. I’d start a Black Rifle coffee up here. Get at me.
@samneedsanap7802
@samneedsanap7802 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@billmorton6977
@billmorton6977 Жыл бұрын
Hey girl how have you been
@samneedsanap7802
@samneedsanap7802 Жыл бұрын
@@billmorton6977 I’m ok. How are you?
@billmorton6977
@billmorton6977 Жыл бұрын
@@samneedsanap7802 oh not to bad . It's been hot here and the typical scrambling around before the daughters wedding on the 27th
@samneedsanap7802
@samneedsanap7802 Жыл бұрын
@@billmorton6977 that’ll be so much fun!
@billmorton6977
@billmorton6977 Жыл бұрын
@@samneedsanap7802 ehh I reckon. Lol . How are the kids doing in Jujitsu
@diamondplate
@diamondplate Жыл бұрын
YES! Let's turn them off and put the phones away. It's the only way to recapture what the tech companies leech from us, our attention. Give that attention back to loved ones and friends.
@mikeg3754
@mikeg3754 Жыл бұрын
Ten year olds trapped in adult bodies. Hilarious. Too bad Glover was not there. Love it.
@kukaliemikalie8157
@kukaliemikalie8157 Жыл бұрын
34:00 silicon valley influence
@belladora1224
@belladora1224 Жыл бұрын
Oops, not episode 255. 246.
@mikelonde9567
@mikelonde9567 Жыл бұрын
I think you guys have to much time on your hands. Evan being creative with the kids? Let's let Aunt Heather babysit them. 🙄😂
@noodlesswe5687
@noodlesswe5687 Жыл бұрын
nice one but the unfocused camera irritated me all the way
@alexpera2299
@alexpera2299 Жыл бұрын
Andy... You need to get a software or computer scientist on your channel.
@hunterstarr7534
@hunterstarr7534 Жыл бұрын
Osama bin glover 😂😂😂
@lanceirvin7715
@lanceirvin7715 Жыл бұрын
Utreon
@ericturner4067
@ericturner4067 Жыл бұрын
oh cool, that alt-left pole smloker evan
@terrybaca4095
@terrybaca4095 Жыл бұрын
I now hate French presses more than anything.
@jesseparisi8599
@jesseparisi8599 Жыл бұрын
Osama Bin Glover. That was so damn funny. I fell off my seat.
@johnsilva276
@johnsilva276 16 күн бұрын
Need Mike
@roofer3608
@roofer3608 Жыл бұрын
Third!!!
@waldooo851
@waldooo851 Жыл бұрын
This the guy getting sued for fraud? LOL not surprised since hes also friends with the cringe Lions Not Sheep who got caught switching tags hahahaha
@lindseyb2052
@lindseyb2052 Жыл бұрын
So Logan is a snitch….he should know you and your wife better than that!! 🤣😂
@jeffberry5773
@jeffberry5773 Жыл бұрын
Osama BinGlover!
@mattrountree.
@mattrountree. Жыл бұрын
Still wont buy BRCC products, there are better vets to support.
@waldooo851
@waldooo851 Жыл бұрын
Invader Coffee is 100x better
@markwurz8577
@markwurz8577 Жыл бұрын
Who cares???
@NotYourFriendPal
@NotYourFriendPal Жыл бұрын
@@markwurz8577 apparently you do if you took the time to comment🤣
@markwurz8577
@markwurz8577 Жыл бұрын
@@NotYourFriendPal yea that’s what that means. Dick cheese😂😂
@partlysunny5402
@partlysunny5402 Жыл бұрын
@@markwurz8577 You do.
@mikefordy1
@mikefordy1 Жыл бұрын
What ever happened to Bishop....I really liked that guy
@padilla2435
@padilla2435 Жыл бұрын
Ain't this the guy that doesn't support self defense. 🤔
@manny1470
@manny1470 Жыл бұрын
There's a ton of questions surrounding Evan and his politics as well as business practices. It'd be nice to hear someone ask the hard questions surrounding BRCC and Evan. Fraud charges against Evan and BRCC and of course donating to anti 2a politicians.
@musicisfree91
@musicisfree91 Жыл бұрын
You got some sources for your claims?
@manny1470
@manny1470 Жыл бұрын
Anyone interested can do some simple Google searches. This guy seems to get bad PR about every few months.
@manny1470
@manny1470 Жыл бұрын
@@musicisfree91 they're not my claims. The claims are out there and do exist.
@musicisfree91
@musicisfree91 Жыл бұрын
@@manny1470 I did a Google search, and all I found was randos making unsubstantiated claims about donating to anti-2A politicians and a likely fraudulent lawsuit. The original press release from the PR company that news articles linked to no longer exists. Seems to me that it's more likely that some far-right snowflakes are made that Evan isn't conservative enough.
@manny1470
@manny1470 Жыл бұрын
@@musicisfree91 FEC federal election commition records state otherwise. As far as the fraud lawsuit against brcc, it was filed there are documents pertaining to available. Whether or not it true I guess the courts will decide that. If you're actually trying to find the truth you might want to put a little more effort into it. As far as your "far right snowflake" comment, I'm not sure where that comes from. FEC records are just that, records and when a group of share holders get together because they feel they've been defrauded and actually file a lawsuit saying so I believe that is a substantiated enough claim to ask the question. That's just my opinion.
@georgecoull1883
@georgecoull1883 Жыл бұрын
Evan and BRCC took a lot of shit over their stance on shit that happened in the civilian world and they've already served this country and should be able to say whatever the fuck they want to have an opinion on. True leader, American badass coffee entrepreneur and conniseur. 🇺🇲
@obamavariant9128
@obamavariant9128 Жыл бұрын
He wrongly called out the gun community and Kyle Rittenhouse. Took him months to back track and would have never if his sales didn’t dramatically go down…. Everyone has a right to an opinion. He fought for it. It’s our right to say he’s an idiot for not looking at the whole situation before he ran his mouth. He lost millions and will never be as big as he could have with his company. You think brcc would not talk trash about a person defending themselves with a black rifle…….
@NotYourFriendPal
@NotYourFriendPal Жыл бұрын
Evan is a grifter and last I checked, the first Amendment applies to all Americans. Not just military folks. Anyone who threatens to dox someone they don’t like is a POS - like Evan
@mflambert
@mflambert Жыл бұрын
I try to watch most of your content - this ones unwatchable
@Jenufir
@Jenufir Жыл бұрын
Still amazes me that people do not understand that they have no first amendment rights on private platforms. It's the same as any other business with a terms of service, or rules. It's akin to walking up to a store that has a sign that says "no shirt, no shoes, no service". If you think it's your "right" to walk into that store without a shirt or shoes, you will quickly be told to leave. That is THEIR right, as a business owner. Just as it's the right of a platform to not allow cussing, political lies, radicalism, or bullying, on their platforms. People don't have to like TOS, or rules. But, they do have to follow them, or they will lose their accounts. It's common sense... which this country seems to be lacking a lot of, these days.
@rho1581
@rho1581 Жыл бұрын
That’s the debate isn’t it. This is the public square “social media”. This is where the struggle surges for Internet rights that should exist to protect consumers. You are a product not a person to these tech monopolies. Free speech above enforced silence. Our rights against a protected corporate super class of citizens.
@Jenufir
@Jenufir Жыл бұрын
@@rho1581 I don't think it's that. I mean we had full freedom of speech (aside from threats), from the minute the internet came to be, at least all the way back to my first AOL account, in 97. I think the real problems stem from just the last four to five years. When politicians themselves, used social media as their microphone to spread lies and hatred, and tearing down people with ease, and almost radicalize some of their supporters, these social media giants were then forced to step in and begin to ban certain "speech". I have no problem with them doing so. It's their absolute right, and it was the right thing to do. I only wish they had stepped in sooner. Because now, too many are convinced it's a means to block "truth", when most of what they think is truth, are lies and manipulation. What frightens me the most, is knowing how mad and angry people have become, while not realizing they've been manipulated. That is truly horrifying.
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