Why Browns fans should never forgive Art Modell - Comedian Brian Kenny

[@bobwhite2]

Modell fired 2 HOF head coaches - Paul Brown and Bill B. That took genius. And they are talking about entering AM into the HOF. ??? How’s that!

[@ericschultz4004]

I never understand Ravens fans. Moving the Colts out of Baltimore was "taking our team" but it's okay to turn around and steal another franchise when it benefits your city????

[@kaidanhetzer6590]

1) Baltimore tried everything when the colts left to Indianapolis. From attempting to start new franchises, to vetoing the move of the colts in the first place. There was no momentum at all. It was a last resort. 2) the colts left in the middle of the night in secret, browns did a similar thing but it wasn’t as bad. The colts owner lied to the public and employed frat houses in the middle of the night to move the equipment on busses and gtfo. Baltimore woke up with no team and no warning. At least you guys got a little bit of a warning. Sure it was still scummy how it all went down but it could’ve been worse. 3) Baltimore was classy enough to make it a new franchise. We had the opportunity to take it all. Names colors championships, and we started from scratch. The colts took everything and even erected a statue of Unitas outside of their stadium. All Colts everything was completely stripped from Baltimore. 4) it was expansion time. The nfl was all over expansions at the time. The Jacksonville Jaguars, the Houston Texans. If there was ever a time to lose a team with hopes of getting a new one it’s the 90s. And of course you didn’t have to wait long at all. With Art Modell’s help, something I rarely see browns fans remember, the browns were gifted a new team only 3 years after the move. 3 years is all that it took. Sure it was uncertain how long it would’ve been, but what is the point of holding such a grudge for 3 years of no play? Especially since the man who you blame it all on worked with his best friend and your hero to get the team back? Want to know how long it took Baltimore? 13 years. And remember they moved in 83, expansions were not on the table, and team moves were rare. There was no hope, but by some miracle it happened and the ravens were born. No I’ll offer a silver lining. Modell was a bad business man, and made some stupid decisions and almost ruined your chances of football in Cleveland forever. However, it was only a three year wait, and he helped you get a new team. And you cannot blame him on the browns sucking for over 20 years. I’ll give you like 5 seasons. But all is fine now. You finally have some momentum in really the first time ever in your history with Baker Mayfield, who is by all accounts an insanely good qb. And it seems like you are finally taking the Steelers place for AFC North division contenders. As a ravens fan I respect your franchise and am excited for the rivalry that is too come in the following years.

[@coreylevine3856]

It not the people of Baltimore it the Political leaders of the city and Art Modell is the blame

[@ericschultz4004]

@@coreylevine3856 you mean the people who support the political leaders' and Art Modell's decision, right?

[@9babyeinstein]

They promised to build a new stadium for him, BUT, he wanted to own it AND get all the Concessions! He was greedy !

[@crosstatt7441]

Yes, he definitely got greedy. However, Mayor White and Al Lerner are certainly responsible. Not that they are the main perpetrators. Unfortunately for Modell, he didn’t have a fallback to make money. That wasn’t the city’s fault, but Mike White was still reactive, not proactive. He was not a “White Knight”, either. Also, Lerner, was a responsible party.

[@lonniestephens6254]

Their owner Art Modell promised not to move the team outta Cleveland, OH and then he lied about it.

[@crosstatt7441]

I can understand the betrayal of Art Modell, but he was also gypped.

[@jackhenry290]

Love them Cleveland BRAHNS!!!! Well it all worked out. Finally. 25 years later we have coach and quarterback.

[@jackhenry290]

@KC got an even better quarterback now. Think they will be fine

[@tylerromine8480]

WRONG!!! hahahahah Ravens are the real browns! @@jackhenry290

[@Gwolf888]

The real reason why did Cleveland Browns are a snake bitten franchise this is when art modell fired the founder of the Cleveland Browns Paul Brown was the main reason why the original Cleveland Browns why so dominant in the 1940s and 50s and won NFL championships during the greatest era of Cleveland Browns. The beginning of the curse When 1964 Cleveland Browns won the NFL championship the next season Jim Brown retires from the NFL, the Paul Warfield trade was so devastating Dennis at the Cleveland Browns back from for several years and let's not forget about the cardiac Kids Cleveland Browns who should have beat the Oakland raiders in the 1980 that was one of the Cleveland Browns super bowl caliber of 80 early half decade, the 1985 Cleveland Browns another super bowl-caliber team playoffs lost 1986 Cleveland Browns the drive losing to the Denver broncos seeing an average Denver bronco going to the Superbowl, and then losing again next year's playoffs to the Denver broncos the fumble game . Denver broncos went back to the super bowl Denver broncos and one final chance in 1989 in the Cleveland Browns came up short against the Denver broncos they lost to the Denver broncos three time I I guess the broncos will gets better this is really when the Cleveland Brown really died as in the NFL franchise four times in the 80s make four super bowl . The real Cleveland Browns move to Baltimore Maryland has been here for 25 years, they might be known as the Baltimore Ravens and and won two super bowls and have a 15-9. Did 1999 expansion Cleveland Browns are the ghost Cleveland Browns only one playoff back in 2002. And only one ten one season back in 2007 and has been abysmal ever since then and the old Cleveland Browns known as the Baltimore Ravens have a 31- 12 division record against the Cleveland and in the Cleveland Browns have the worst owner Jim haslam

[@UnclePhil1112]

In the end, he’s a still a better owner than Dan Snyder. But only by a thin margin

[@mbclev]

Even now we get reminded of this, because I saw campaign signs in downtown Cleveland that say "Keep Judge [Ken] Callahan, the judge that kept the Browns in Cleveland" (he is up for re-election this year).

[@orensmith9421]

YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD 😂 ART?WHO? SCREWED US OVER 😡 AND THAT IS THE REASON WE ARE STRUGGLING NOW! I LIVE IN RALEIGH NOW BUT I BLEED CLE TILL I DIE!GO BROWNS 💪 F THAT TEAM AND THAT TRASH CAN PLACE! OZZIE?WHO? CAN GO TO HELL 2!

[@benjaminbrown5143]

What a non biased take on this subject 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tmajcan94]

Art is in hell where he belongs.

[@ericlehman6841]

That's between God and him. No, you aren't his God, my God, or God period.

[@maxB2262]

Cleveland doesn’t understand how lucky they are that they only lost a team for one season, got to keep their colors, history, and name. With the colts we lost everything!

[@darlakajca6454]

You stole our team you guys are hypocrites

[@Johngabe100]

Art model did a lot for Cleveland and the city fucked him over period he had to pay the up keep and spent a ton in the up keep which was way more expensive than what your saying. He was going broke. He never said he would own the stadium but would receive the receipts and control of stadium which is very different. I was resentful of Model for a long time but then did some fact checking and what was actually said and trust me …. He got screwed in many ways. Now you can say I’m full of crap but I did the actual research and with an open mind. Oh yea Cleveland can also thank Model for the hospice center, children’s hospital, playhouse square all the while he was going broke and there is nothing to show he was mis managing his money. Problem was he was probably a bit to giving to the city who had been promising him a stadium for years. We now know for fact that city managers had been promising him these things but never came through till the end and then they acted shocked. And threw all the blame on him and as usual Cleveland fans believed what was ever most convenient. If you ever believe it’s only one person fault in this case then your a fan I guess, just not very informed

[@poppy87]

The problem is the NFL forced him out of his Baltimore ownership too; he just couldn’t find a way to make money when literally everybody else could.

[@crosstatt7441]

@@poppy87He was a great promoter, but a poor businessman.

[@crosstatt7441]

@@poppy87I fault Art for what happened, but I can’t fully absolve the city.

[@elastictowels9659]

Baltimore praises him

[@jordan12118]

Won 2 Super Bowls

[@elastictowels9659]

@KC indeed

[@setokaibasbankaccount9109]

Art Modell is a legend, keep crying salty Browns fans lol

[@bdouglasful]

He’s like Jerry Jones

[@aaronwilliams6989]

Yet Art Modell couldn't generate any cash flow.

[@blackboy1234ish]

I b mad to seeing what the Raven's have became ,

[@ravens76winners28]

RAVENS SB BOUND

[@epic9648]

dam gOOd you can thank that to dum art model

[@ravens76winners28]

@@epic9648 yes Art Modell is a dummy

[@gabrielguzman6018]

You what was funny they could of won a sb with the browns in 2000 had they not left for Baltimore

[@jakegodman]

That’s impossible. There’s no way that they made the exact same moves with the team. By the time the Ravens took the field, only part of the team came from Cleveland

[@okaybye75]

Ravens are a well oiled machine. On the field and front office but alot of this is due to our new owner but Ozzie's fingerprints are all over this organization as well. Art brought team here yes but the last 10 plus years our new owner has lead the organization to become what it is. First class facilities for the players and upgrades to stadium for fans every year. You guys at least kept the browns name. Alot of older people in Baltimore are still hurt Everytime they here Indianapolis colts.

[@regional1000]

Clearly you don't know that the people sued art modell to return the name. The people won and the browns name, colors and records are in cleveland.

[@okaybye75]

@@regional1000 we never wanted the crappy name or uniform. Colts way better than browns uniform.

[@maxB2262]

@@okaybye75 yep, Cleveland doesn’t understand how lucky they are that they only lost a team for one season, got to keep their colors, history, and name. With the colts we lost everything!

[@RochaRules]

Baker mayfield bigger brother right here

[@mr.w1129]

How bout those Brownies?🤣

[@MissTrinidad]

🤣

[@darlakajca6454]

@@MissTrinidad Deshaun Watson is better than Lamar Jackson

[@igweofart]

2 championships Thanks Art

[@darlakajca6454]

You're a Baltimoron loser Art Modell will never be in the hall of Fame Because of the ratbirds existing

[@igweofart]

@@darlakajca6454 😂

[@darlakajca6454]

@@igweofart yeah it's funny searching out videos on browns moving that's why no one cares about the stupid mayflower truck and Baltimore not having a team for 12 years

[@ravens76winners28]

RAVENS ARE #1 LOL BROWNS ARE WELL THERE NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS LOL RAVENS ARE

[@therealtommytsunamiyt8609]

One year later

[@rage2183]

Art should be hall of fame

[@darlakajca6454]

Browns shouldn't have moved

[@coreylevine3856]

That won't happen until the year 2145

[@Woodie-pp2rp]

Baltimore must of seen his vision thanks Cleveland 😂😂

[@rage2183]

Let's go Baltimore ravens

[@rage2183]

Let's go ravens

[@darlakajca6454]

Some people get paid to be a clown 🤡 but here you are doing it for free

[@darlakajca6454]

Stolen franchise

[@Playstationrule]

toobad! browns never win super bowl. wow ravens got 2 championship. MOVE ON. get over it.

[@links5957]

Seen some pictures they wanted to update the old stadium 🏟, didn't batter for a newer one.

[@XCELERATIONRULES]

Art is in hell where he belongs.

[@ericlehman6841]

Ummm....that's between Jesus and him.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Extra Crispy by now