KAREN JUDGES TOM MACDONALD vs MAC LETHAL: Tom MacDonald - "Mac Lethal Sucks" (MAC LETHAL DISS #2)

[@TheKyfe]

After this, Mac stopped posting for a long time because his comments kept getting flooded with, "Hi Dave, Hi Dave, Hi Dave."

[@GHOST-FACE594]

Chess move by making a catchy part in a diss that people will remember lol

[@Savage_Gangster]

That's funny

[@davidnettles4734]

I entered this battle when it came out as a big Mac fan, never having heard of Tom. He’s now in my top 5 and I listen to Tom daily almost. He converted me lol

[@MorSamhain]

Hi Dave 👋 Much love 😎

[@TheTexVet]

The Benoit line was one of the nastiest lines ive ever heard, and its highly slept on only because so many people dont know this battel because it was before he popped off. It utterly annihilated Mac. That one line ended his career... oof.

[@richardchastain9332]

Fully agree extreme shock value on that bar

[@Fazla091]

🤣

[@murder13love]

To this day, one of the nastiest lines i have ever heard in a diss. Its just so massively disrespectful

[@markperry8423]

When I heard that bar I spit my drink out and said he'll no he just didn't. Nasty Nasty Nasty!

[@Meepie_Playz]

Definitely a crazy bar but not a lot of people know about it when reacting to this song.

[@duanestephen9494]

After this one, Mac didn't respond, but Tom did do "I'm Sorry". Karen will Love that one. Waiting for you two to do more Tom reactions.

[@jrcarter312]

Actually I believe No Response came out first referencing that Mac said he wouldn't respond but the one time

[@duanestephen9494]

@@jrcarter312 They already reacted to that one.

[@shaneoshea5166]

@@duanestephen9494 Mac has released another one since

[@duanestephen9494]

@@shaneoshea5166 that was released in response to God Mode 5 years later. Not this battle

[@n30ng75]

​@@shaneoshea5166​​ if it's the one I'm thinking of. It was basically him hiding behind a vacation, his family, and playing victim. It's a trash response.

[@vickigower8125]

Oh, and of course Cliff, you know that we want you to do more reactions with Karen of Tom MacDonald, and do Nova as well. Please 😊

[@Ian_Ah_Nee]

That benoit line is still so fuckin cold! He buried mac with this one. Nasty

[@Brandon-mx3zx]

show her toms heartfelt follow up to this called "I'm sorry"

[@jonathoncase1922]

Or don't look down!!

[@lindseym3810]

Yes!!!

[@vickigower8125]

Oh my gosh, this never gets old. I could watch this 1 million times and it will never get old. Tom MacDonald is a genius love this song and love you guys and your reaction.

[@pegaz6529]

You've also got to think about how long it took to respond to each other. Like Tom said in this song, Mac Lethal took over a week and got other rappers to help him. Tom made this song in less than 24 hours if I remember right.

[@elonmusketeer78]

You should do "im sorry" next

[@MrDezo02]

YES!!! Please do more Tom.... i really wanna see your girl do the throw backs of tom... helluvit, exposure, castles.... show her his versatility!

[@kerrymize6188]

We need “Ghost”. That’s going to hit her hard.

[@beccajames2332]

I’d I like to see her reaction for Tom Macdonald 1) Church, 2) Withdrawal 3) Don’t look down

[@beckyleavitt7808]

I have the whole story on this if you are interested. The recent diss track from Dave (I refuse to call him lethal lol) was because Tom said in "God Mode" that he felt bad for burrying Dave. So Dave dissd back. Tom ignored him of course.

[@CalamityXrd]

He also lied and said he made a divorce happen and brought shit up that had been supposedly hashed out, but then old Tom Griftdonald after squashing the beef went and took shots as again, don't get me wrong I used to like Tom before he went full MAGA rap

[@Meepie_Playz]

Mac put out a new diss several months ago

[@samuelpancake4084]

​@@CalamityXrdfull maga rap? 😂

[@andrewbrakey6214]

Apparently they are a leftist and like politicians that can't answer a question. Eminem endorsed kamala because he already endorsed Biden and wrote a battle saying he didn't want Trump voters as fans. Hell that fool apologized in a song and it was horrible. Fans like me will never listen to Marshall again.

[@xtronvultron4811]

@@CalamityXrd you’re delusional he was pointing out facts even Mac lethal admitted it on his song, and he took what Tom said as a diss even though even though Tom was just simply pointing what happened to Mac lethals life after the battle and was acknowledging that he felt bad for Mac lethal, so Mac lethal is just a crybaby who takes everything personal just like Mac lethal took straight white male personal as well.

[@instigatorartworks]

Like I said, best diss track of all time.

[@BrainBushido]

Damn Cliff... Karen caught the blink... she's coming for your job bro. Loved the reaction!

[@allybandy3047]

Definitely more Tom vids with Tom. ♥

[@lynne1434]

Yes MORE Tom with Karen!!!!!

[@briang6815]

Tom MacDonald - I'm Sorry & Mac Lethal - Mac Lethal Sucks Pt. 2 are also loosely related to this battle as well as No Response which you guys already reacted to.

[@xtronvultron4811]

Also everybody needs me and danger and white rapper and I’m a star are new songs by Tom and nova subliminally dissing Mac lethal as a response to Mac lethals new diss.

[@briang6815]

@@xtronvultron4811 I think I've heard Danger but not the others. I have to listen to it again though because I hadn't noticed.

[@Scrappymedic]

Im loving these reactions with Karen

[@richardchastain9332]

Great reaction follow it up with IM SORRY

[@jearrellyates5612]

Love the way you break down bars, but your girl’s reactions are 🔥🔥🔥 You guys rock!

[@ad9aggie]

Start off your Dad with "Ashes" by Tom, it has that rock vibe. Keep on keepin' on, you two!

[@The23Rob]

Great reaction together! Seems like you found yourself a good Karen! You should have her react to Tom's older songs Whiteboy & then This House! And also she def needs to see Kasey Chambers cover of Lose Yourself!!!

[@randimarsh3596]

More Tom please!!! Sincerely, H.O.G.

[@randimarsh3596]

P.s. I love y'alls reactions together it's awesome!!

[@christoferjenks6069]

Great reaction! Yes please show Karen more of Tom's music!

[@chaos42207]

Been waiting for this one. This battle is where I originally found your channel the first time

[@caiterlandson7473]

Me too! Been here ever since!

[@richrebok1480]

gotta review "Stronger Version" I think Karen would really like that song

[@brettmentzel6432]

YO Cliff! You GOTTA show her "Dirty Money"... my personal favorite, and I love how you're able to slow down the intake of information through the bars. I feel like a LOT of what he says in that song gets overlooked by a lot of people

[@brettmentzel6432]

Or "The System"... "Clown World" "Fake Woke"... "Brainwashed"... "Sheeple"... we can go on all day honestly lol... Love these "couple reactions" in my opinion, couples like you guys will have a huge part in waking this world up

[@GHOST-FACE594]

He really did make it sound effortless lol. Destroying Mac without really trying is a diss in itself

[@ShoddyRC]

This song hits every time.

[@MrMysterious749]

DANGER KAREN WOULD LOVE IT

[@randimarsh3596]

Yes yes yes!!!

[@lauriemorrall1115]

The Way I Am Tom MacDonald. Plus they build their own Sets too

[@lindseym3810]

This will always be 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@donaldross3465]

Yes she she should definitely do more Tom

[@sheenadees2701]

The other diss that Mac put out he put out after I believe it was God Mode where Tom said the last time he did a diss it ruined the guy's marriage.You got a divorce.Mac took that as an opening for him to throw a diss

[@xtronvultron4811]

@@sheenadees2701 which is dumb right? Like Tom was just pointing out why he doesn’t do disses anymore, but Mac took it personal like always cause he’s a crybaby.

[@sheenadees2701]

@xtronvultron4811 I don't think that was it.I think he was trying to cash in on clout again... Only he can't use that he has more subs and more views now. He should've learned the first time.

[@xtronvultron4811]

@@sheenadees2701 I know Mac lethal is Clout chasing, and even though Mac lethal had more subscribers 5 years ago during their battle, Tom still was getting more views than Mac lethal, but now Tom also has more subscribers as well.

[@xtronvultron4811]

@@sheenadees2701 also Tom responded to Mac lethals new diss multiple times on multiple songs, check out everybody needs me, Danger, I’m a star, and white rapper, those are all new songs from Tom and nova responding to Mac lethals new diss.

[@mattbnr]

I can see why Tom don’t do diss tracks anymore……that was brutal…..damn

[@StevenPrime1988]

This is how you end a battle.

[@driveitlikeyoustoleit72]

3:46 that reaction was the best😂

[@S.A.M.O.]

Absolutely loving the dynamic with you 2. Keep the Karen reactions coming, Mac put out the new diss after Tom dissed him in a recent song

[@xtronvultron4811]

Check out danger and white rapper and I’m a star Tom and nova subliminally diss Mac lethal as a response In those new songs by them

[@plisk72]

this is the one i was waiting on.

[@berniewatts5028]

Since I’m a new,OLD 👵🏼 fan, I appreciate all your hard work. It helps me understand. Prayers for you Mijo ❤️❤️❤️❤️👵🏼 Gmaw

[@Pcore187]

Just watched first two of this series with your daughter (so cool, your parenting). 🔥🔥🔥

[@michellelewis7665]

Mac did do another that he called something like Mac Lethal Sucks 2, or some stupid shit but it was about half hidden and wholly underwhelming, imo. Ah, Mac Lethal Sucks Pt. 2. It was a decent song but not really...part of the beef? It seemed more like an, "I'm feeling sorry for myself" type thing, I dunno...

[@michaelcook4790]

Do I'm sorry or this house next!

[@plugyourears8809]

Mac Lethal vs Dirtbag Dan. One of the best battles I've ever seen

[@dhyounggunz85]

Mac vs The Saurus was also pretty good

[@gregory6592]

Great reaction from Karen, you can tell she was really invested in the the battle.

[@marksmith164]

#BringKarenBack Karen's awesome, she's a great addition to your reactions. Another Tom Macdonald song I think she'll like is Best Rapper Ever. And if she liked this video, she'll absolutely love the music video to it too!

[@scottyshriver14]

she gets it!

[@kylormiller242]

The reason mac lethal didnt really reply is cuz he was on tour with Crypt at the time. And the reason he released that diss 5 months ago was cuz of something Tom said in a song about him

[@MykAlbizu]

But he didn't even say his name in that song. Mac just wanted some relevance

[@amypace1027]

Or no one would write it for him 😂

[@xtronvultron4811]

@@amypace1027lol facts

[@xtronvultron4811]

@@amypace1027Mac needed to wait for crypt to have time to write that 2nd diss towards Tom 😂 which Mac had to wait 5 years😂

[@BrianBlancato]

More Tom!!! Lesss m&m

[@donaldpaulson3920]

Lmao Mac had to shut his socials off because flooded with "hi Dave hi Dave Hi dave"

[@thinkley91]

You guys should check out Dont Look Down also, I feel like that was basically No Response part2 and God Mode is No Response part 3

[@stevenwiltse9611]

She needs to see tom and adam whiteboyz and American flags

[@bubba4491]

Cliff you need to have your girl go down the rabbit hole of tom.

[@Kragnox]

Been wondering.. did you introduce Karen to Jinjer - Pisces? Would be interesting

[@SSingh-nr8qz]

This was my gateway song into the Tom MacDonald rabbit hole years ago.

[@sheenadees2701]

Mac had to shut down the comments and take a break from social media because of that hi dave bar everybody, and I mean everybody was leaving him comments saying hi dave hi dave hi dave😂😂😂

[@debbieholoquist2059]

Karen is a great addition to the channel!

[@paranoiaaa4126]

Karen has this down pat! Go girl! ❤❤❤

[@berniewatts5028]

I like this Tom👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽. Karen is so good, I always say she’s a natural 👏👏👏. She’s had a great teacher ❤️❤️❤️. Take care you guys 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾👵🏼 Gmaw

[@RichardTerry-j4n]

Tom's 1st track dropped 24 hrs after Twitter stuff Mac didn't respond for 2 weeks I believe , you could check cause this dropped 48 hrs after.....amazing work ethic

[@Djoneofone]

Nice reaction

[@Unearnedendd]

I would love to see some Webby reactions with Karen!

[@Mark-m5l7h]

Would love to see here reaction to Sheeple from Tom

[@papaschuette]

Wassup you 2. Tom clearly was in the lead after this one. And since Mac couldn't respond and basically gave up, it was over. The battle, and Mac's career. Alot of people miss that Chris Benoit bar. Because the bar before it being brutal. The prior bar gets the reaction like you 2 had. And they miss the next one. I'm glad you caught it and explained it. Because that was the exact moment the beef was over. It would be very hard to beat a bar like that. #AOD

[@BlackWolf-qp3yg]

Don't look down

[@MrMummra22]

Why does everyone comment on the Stone Cold as the wrestling throwback and not the part where he says your future is handies from Tammy Imagining baddies in nasty pajammies.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

It’s called a “call back” in writing/ rapping. It’s when you reference or tie in a bar/ line from earlier in a song or routine.

[@MrMummra22]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial Yeah I get that, but the Tammy line was what Mac called Tom in his response as his wrestling name...

[@vernonmckee-gv9dp]

Although Tom McDonald is a independent artist and Eminem is a music industry artist and it won't likely happen because of this, I would love to see Tom MacDonald and Eminem on a track together.

[@MansterBear]

it wont happen because Em panders to the left/woke people that Tom offends 90% of the time lol

[@Daddyoh94]

Karen Beats off the rip no script He says Tom dissed him but he wasn't feeling it so he didn't try. Sounds like a cop-out because the body

[@sheenadees2701]

Mac Lethal Sucks part 2 was a song it was pretty good until the end.

[@joshjohnson2600]

Haha I lived in Chicago, I understand all the viewpoints here.

[@Rexx-z88]

Much respect great content Cliff an Karen

[@cherokeehogman9170]

Your girl is a huge asset. The camera loves her, she’s not shy in front of the camera. She is knowledgeable about rap. Shit y’all might be a new power couple in the reactor world! I lost some measure of respect for Tom when he didn’t respond to the Upchurch disses, but I kind of understood. But I don’t understand him not responding to Mac’s second dis when he savagely went at Nova. Tom should have responded to that or showed up at his door. Men don’t let anyone talk about their women like that. Nova didn’t deserve that and Tom should have stood up to Mac. Lastly, has Karen even heard Nova Rap? I’m thinking she should.

[@RichardTerry-j4n]

Danger is likely the response you crave by GFBF you know...Tom and Nova

[@joshoverall5978]

stoked

[@cbogolo]

Benoit has a son that is still alive because he was away at boarding school when it went down

[@Tessimistic420]

#hangovergang Forever ❤

[@sharondagostino3348]

Karen is a fan Tom Canceled Boombap 101

[@Lou-xq9br]

This one alway's makes me laugh 🤭 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Tom cremated Mac Cringe 🤍

[@nicholewade8677]

Play Karen Ghost

[@alistairecase3405]

As much as I dislike Tom as a person, I can absolutely see why people say he won the battle/beef with Mac. Mac's newer diss was in response to things Tom said on a track (I think it was 'God Mode') including suggesting that he caused Mac to get divorced (he's not even divorced, just keeps his private life quiet).

[@ryanfromm715]

Please play Bagpipes from Baghdad by Eminem for Karen when you get back on an Eminem kick. Hope your treatment is going well, Cliff! Praying for you!

[@kirolord81]

tom- this house

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Oh we will

[@nightmaremikel]

People assume Benoit was a horrible person, but he was a great man, husband, and dad. All the brain damage from headbutts he gave and received made him snap one day.

[@dominic150]

Undiagnosed CTE. It’s wasn’t him, it was the CTE that made him do it. Pretty well known this can happen to anyone in a contact sport. Several football players have also done this

[@sherrywest134]

Tom went after those who were Mac’s friends as they came after Tom so Tom released I am Sorry then NoResponse.

[@Catch22-lct]

Please no to the recent diss. He uses Nova to get to Tom and it's disgusting.

[@ericgrady5102]

Classic

[@donaldpaulson3920]

Mac lethal did Mac lethal sucks pt 2 shortly after still chasing clout from the beef make people think was against Tom...

[@williamblaschke5551]

Mac Lethal dropped the recent Diss to Tom Macdonald because Mac felt Tom Dissed him in God Mode

[@benttl77]

Karen might like god mode💜

[@TheKyfe]

Yeah, and it was kinda weak on his part to take it that way. All Tom did was reference the battle and said he won, basically. He didn't even name names.

[@3tymology]

​@@TheKyfe he said he was the reason his family split and his wife divorced him you're focusing on the wrong part of the bar and as a rapper myself I'd shoot back too keep my linkess out of your mouth

[@xtronvultron4811]

Check out Danger by Tom Macdonald he and nova subliminally diss Mac lethal in that song, also check out white rapper and I’m a star nova and Tom subliminally diss Mac lethal in those songs as well.

[@KrisThroughGlass]

This isn't just a diss it's a real song you can listen to several times.

[@petervh8750]

I would like to see the reaction to Macs new one from Karen

[@syntheticsleep]

I've got mixed feelings about Tom in general, but he is absolutely a really good rapper and 100% killed this dude. I'd like Tom a lot more if his stuff was less overtly political. And to be clear, I feel the same way about a lot of the punk rock stuff I grew up with. The more on the nose it is with politics, the less I listen to it, even if it's on "my side." It just puts itself into a really small box. Outside of that, I really like his stuff that's more "regular" rap, or that incorporates the social/political commentary in more subtle or creative ways.

[@TerranceReid-e8t]

Many believe Chris did not kill his family but they do believe Kevin Sullivan did and set Chris up out of jealousy

[@chrispickett3092]

Tom's M&M , with nuts. Nuff Said

[@shamrockzk]

He did diss Tom with that 8 min video after tom did God Mode and mentioned mac

[@benmclean4206]

Rip Chris the Cripple Benoit and his fam, wild CTI tragedy for sure. Toms a beast and pls don’t do the Mac 5 year later blast, it is incredibly offensive and clearly Toms moved on anyways. Show my girl Karen God Castles. Much love from 🇨🇦 ps loving the two of you. You could recycle Tom’s library and go bananas w views.

[@Emma-s4g]

God Mode was his final say on this matter. He put it to bed.

[@calmatesmontes9311]

Ufc or boxing, 10- 7 round is still possible for both. 1 knockdown is 10-8, 2 knockdowns and dominanting is 10-7.

[@freddiebillings5264]

If you don't do God Mode, you are missing one of his best songs! It's him answering EVERY hater!

[@MrBrianstrutton]

You should check out no response. It it's the result of the battle