Clifton 8 - After 100 Miles

[@philortman8139]

I love this shoe as my daily trainer. Soft in a way that discourages faster paces, which is exactly what I want when I'm just looking to build up weekly miles.

[@simonpark342]

I work in fab which is a clean room for microchips. I stand and walk for 12 hrs a day. I came across this channel and did some research which eventually made the decision to invest in the shoes. Now they are best shoes I have ever own. Now I bought 2 more of them for every day use and working out. Got rid of my Nikes and Vans bc they are not comparable to these shoes.

[@nnnbbb1400]

Do you recommend them over the bondi 8? I am in the same situation as u

[@RareAirTwo4]

Definitely. I own expensive 200+ nikes, ultraboosts, etc... The Hoka Clifton is the epitome of comfort.

[@whatfreedom7]

Are they cushy for just walking and ok for standing etc? I’m not into running and all running shoes aren’t best for that.

[@Samsungs-ug4ht]

@@whatfreedom7 let me know if you got the answer !!

[@drojeen2580]

@@whatfreedom7nurses recommend bondi 8

[@teratikkoanan7671]

Cliftons are the must-have for me . They served very well on easy run , recovery run or the first run after recovery from injury..

[@brookehoetzer3725]

does anyone here know if this shoe would be good for

[@davidwright6978]

Hello from the UK . I love the Hoka Clifton. I started on the 7 and now have the 8. All I can say is the comfort levels are outstanding. I was having real problems with knee pain after a long run which is why I moved from the Asics Kayano to Hoka . What a difference. The knee problems have completely gone . They may not be the lightest shoe but I have done half and full marathons in them this year with no issues. As I look around at the people in my running club I can suddenly see a lot more people who I know put a lot of miles in every week moving to Hoka. Certainly seem to have gained a decent following with good reason.

[@postalcowboy]

thx for this. I bought my Clifton 8 as my first runner. Had no clue because i'm a new runner for a year. Love my little pillows!! You nailed the review.

[@kofuzi]

glad you enjoyed the video. happy running!

[@DucaRedM]

Loved this shoe, absolutely amazing out of rhe box and for first 100km. I'm at about 180km and you're right the EVA has gone very flat now and the shoe isn't anywhere near as nice to run in.

[@charriso]

After many trials of other daily trainers and not really loving any of them, I just ordered the Clifton 8. I’ve been in Cliftons since 2016 and they’ve always been my trusted partner.

[@danielmoore9214]

I totally agree on the midsole, they have found a nice level of foam density....one of my favourite shoes...

[@jh1328]

I just bought these today for the specific reason of using it for slower-paced runs for building up the miles in between my faster runs with my nike reacts. Great review!

[@DeeGee69]

Thank you for the video... I'd love to see more about how the shoes fare after 300+ miles as it's more inline with how much people use their shoes... Personally, my Endorphin Speed are still in great shape (outsole and upper) after 400+ miles ...

[@eriktred]

One of my favorite daily trainers.

[@stevekastenbaum6678]

Thank you for the disclosure. Every reviewer needs to do this.

[@kofuzi]

most KZbin reviewers do. I'd say it's more important to demand it from legacy media, like Runner's World

[@wordsovsean8905]

I bought these pretty much when they first came out. They were my main shoes at that stage, but I probably haven't done much more than 100kms in them. I just feel like I'm running in sludge. I tend to get tired/sore legs when I run in them. My feet feel fine. I've found the Saucony Endorphin Shift 3 to be better for me as they compress just the right amount and keep me rolling along. I feel like the heel has collapsed a bit in the Cliftons and forefoot now feels higher than the heel. There is little to no wear on the outsole, so I feel they'll last a while from that perspective, but I've basically retired them from running duty. I think the weight and gait of the individual runner can play a pretty significant role in what feels comfortable. For the record, I'm 183cm and about 73kgs.

[@MattSwain1]

I got onto the Hoka train with the Clifton 6 which was so different to anything I’d ever run in before and I immediately loved it. I tried the Rincon which I thought was going to be similar just even lighter but it wasn’t. I got a second pair 6s and then recently got the 8 which I’m happy to say still feels as good as the day that I first tried running in the Clifton 6. They look a bulky shoe but really aren’t, quite lightweight as you say for such a well padded shoe. I’m a very average runner and faster shoes are a bit wasted on me (doesn’t stop me from trying them of course), I’m training for a spring marathon and the Clifton 8 might even be my race day shoe. There’s often talk of EVA being a bit outdated but I’d be worried that if Hoka used something else that a Clifton would no longer be a Clifton

[@kofuzi]

I think there are a lot of people who run their marathons in Cliftons

[@chrisofresh6660]

The Clifton 8s are great especially when in recovery/post recovery. I’m on my 2nd pair of Clifton 8s

[@kickpublishing]

I found these shoes enabled me to keep on running with an Achilles injury that would otherwise had me out of the game for weeks - getting weaker. I believe strongly that injuries are caused by muscle weakness and not by lack of rest.

[@tomh9064]

Great to see the after 100 mile reviews and good to see it holding up well. I have the Clifton 6 which I got heavily reduced when the 8 was released and certainly seeing more wear than this (mainly to the exposed foam), that said, loving them which is why I am here looking at these for when my 6 gets relegated to ‘dog walking shoe’

[@ananda_miaoyin]

Great to know! I just picked up a pair of these a week or so ago and they kick ass.

[@undeadly1103]

picked mine up in a 10 wide and it fits great. I'll admit i passed it up early on because the regular width had a strange fit. decided to try the wide and it is now in my rotation giving my mach 4s a longer life

[@HansVandeWerf]

Best trainer I ever had

[@Chilllinz]

Definitely a super nice shoe. I have it and use it for all my runs, but future races and time trials/speed work where i have the Nike next percent. I think the Hoka shoes mostly work for people who have a midfoot/forefoot strike and those who heelstrike will have trouble enjoying the shoe due to the relatively low drop from heel to toe. Good video with some solid points. I love this shoe!

[@neilcooper3882]

Different runners will have different experiences but I'm a heelstriker and they work great for me. They roll through really nicely. The rubber does wear through in the heel area though (or did on my Clifton 6s and 7s - I haven't put enough miles into my 8s yet!).

[@anibalgimenezkullak7741]

Thanks Mike for the review. If you had to choose between Clifton 8 or Mach 4, which will it be?

[@kofuzi]

I love the mach 4

[@anibalgimenezkullak7741]

@@kofuzi Me too!

[@markoljustina]

C8

[@bev9708]

He did a video comparing them about 5 months ago. I started with the Mach 4 but ended up getting the Clifton too as I wanted an even softer shoe... they are both awesome! The Mach 4 is a little more versatile perhaps as they are more designed to pick up the pace, yet I still do prefer the Clifton as I love the softness, especially for long runs!!

[@lvalday]

I remember that you tested the Clifton 1 when Hoka made some sort of re-launch of that shoe in 2018 (or something like that) and I also remember that you liked it but didn't blow your mind. Super shoes have set a new standard for the "wow" factor but, IMO, shoes like the Clifton are still great and it worth having them in rotation.

[@kofuzi]

I definitely didn't love the Clifton 1. I'm not sure if it's because it was just so different than what I was used to, or if it just wasn't a great shoe. the Clifton diehards didn't love the re-release, so it's possible it's a bit of both

[@NazSBG]

I've just ordered my first pair of Hokas (Clifton 8). Expecting them tomorrow. Got them from official Hoka UK site. £80 including postage. Always had ASICS but looking for a change. The Clifton 8's have very favourable reviews.

[@kofuzi]

Hope you enjoy

[@NazSBG]

@@kofuzi thanks. In your opinion would you say the Clifton 8's are good for long runs? I've read mixed reviews re them.

[@seriousbees]

This is my first real "running" shoe and its been a real joy to use

[@kofuzi]

that's great!

[@aiRyxi]

My arches hurt just looking at them. I’d wear them if I could!

[@zyan554]

Such a nice and informative video. I’d like to ask though, which one would you prefer between Hoka Clifton 8 and Asics Novablast 2 as a daily trainer if you could only choose one? I’m on the fence between these two

[@worshipfit]

Did you ever find an an answer? Which did you decide on?

[@fudbeer1]

Have worn Cliftons for years.Even though they still appear fine the cushion goes between 200-250 miles to the extent I can no longer run in them.

[@ASA_1347]

Any alternative recommendations?

[@ds77777]

Totally same for me. 250 miles and can't run in them anymore. They look fine but started giving me some knee pains. How much do you weigh?

[@fudbeer1]

Hi 175 pounds@@ds77777

[@Notnotcam]

Bought this shoe during my peak mileage for summer xc training and my legs thanked me for getting them. Great shoe, dead for me after 350 miles

[@kofuzi]

thanks for the longevity report!

[@running-nurse]

Seems pretty fair

[@ds77777]

Mine got dead after 400 km (250 miles). I am on the heavy side though with my 87 kg. What is your weight, just wondering? And I agree, great shoes, but don't last long.

[@andyblatecky8123]

These need the last of the Mach 4. My Clifton 8's tore up my foot on the inside of my big toe. Other than that, I enjoyed them.

[@jimduyck]

Super hero origin story vibes in the opening running footage. 👌

[@JogforJoy]

Great review! Clifton is lightweight indeed!

[@thatashguy]

For me, the Hoka 7s had a weird arch support thing - I could feel the outside support rubbing my arch (the orange piece in your review). Did you have this with the 7? And if so, is it similar in the 8?

[@aiRyxi]

Similar in 8 for me.

[@thatashguy]

@@aiRyxi thanks. I recently purchased a pair of rincon 3s and they have been great so far.

[@aiRyxi]

@@thatashguy I have a pair as well and they fit much better

[@chinitopogi7511]

did not purchase this hoka clifton 7 this not for a high arch foot runners :(

[@Kontiky874]

Hi man, thanks for your review. What about durability of the sole today? i am seriously thinkinkabout buying clifton 8, but many people say that durability of the the foam is very poor. 300k miles and it is gone. Howdoyou see it toady please?

[@allenpearson5659]

Dude, your recommendations for which Hoka for a marathon. Mach? Clifton 7 or 8 or Rincon. Thoughts on Carbon plate. I am planning a marathon in Oct then for 70.3 this over next Aust summer. Cheers

[@kofuzi]

short answer: carbon x2 or rocket x. long answer: there'a lot of options that will depend on what your needs/preferences are. if you want a carbon plated option designed for the marathon distance, see short answer above. if you place a premium on comfort for the miles, then Clifton 8. the Mach 4 is a lightweight shoe with some bounce. probably my choice if I were to race in a hoka that wasn't plated. if the Clifton is too heavy but the mach 4 is not substantial enough, then consider the Rincon. then there's the Bondi, the Bondi x, and stability options.

[@muhammadkhairul3621]

Great video as always,waiting a 100 mile review on the reebok floatride and atreyu v2

[@osoperezoso2608]

Debating on this shoe or the Bondi 8. I'm someone that's slowly getting back into jogging for health reasons. Want to save my knees and back. Not sure which to go with. Don't know if the extra cushion is an absolute need on the Bondi 8.

[@nnnbbb1400]

Similar situation here, what did you eventually went with?

[@osoperezoso2608]

@@nnnbbb1400 I ended up buying the Bondi but recently exchanged them for the Clifton 8s. Mainly for aesthetics. The Bondis are super big and goofy looking. Needed something that looked somewhat decent

[@ajmartinez1906]

Thanks for the review Mr. Kofuzi, excellent footage. After reading the specs on this shoe( Running Warehouse), would this shoe work as a stability Shoe?

[@zorrozorrito999]

Hi, I’m a huge fan of your channel. If you had to choose, Clifton 8 or Novablast 2? Also, Mach 4 or Novablast 2?

[@kofuzi]

novablast 2 novablast 2

[@aunimarzuqi8113]

@@kofuzi huhu thanks you for the decision

[@raysollarsthehappyjogger5907]

Continues to be a solid and popular in local clubs to train and run marathons. However, I have the Max Road 5 and as Seth, put in his review, "I'll take the Max Road 5 over the Clifton 8 any day of the week. " Good shoe battle! Both are excellent shoe shoes. Let's get ready to rumble!!!

[@avenpace]

I switched from Asics Cumulus 23 to Clifton 8, and man, I love them, Cumulus compared to them are a bit boring tho

[@RadhaPublishing]

Good update, would you recommend this for a flat foot runner using orthotics, thanks

[@neilcooper3882]

I loved my Clifton 7s but not so much the 8s. The ride and cushion are still great but I hate the thicker puffy tongue - too warm! I can't get as good a lockdown either, partly because of the tongue but also because the material over the ankle cushioning seems slippier. I wouldn't buy another pair of the 8s, hopefully Hoka reverses the changes in the 9s.

[@peterdwyer6118]

I just ordered a pair of these. I don't run outside but do around 7 miles per day on my work tredmill. I hope these are comfortable.

[@kofuzi]

I think it’s a good choice

[@DarkPa1adin]

will you replace your FFMv3 with Clifton 8?

[@gnice4256]

Hello all! Which one would y’all prefer the Clifton 8 or Mach 5?!?

[@jamesdantzler5671]

On my second pair of Clifton 8's, with around 150mi now. I noticed that the front of the shoes are curved upward now, vs the original straight. They feel like they're getting flat now, but is curve that I mentioned a general shoe sign that they're done?

[@capture4t]

I am too enjoying it so far on these Clifton 8. kofuzi, have you tried any other shoe that can match to Clifton 8?

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

I just wish all brands would get rid of those oversized heel collar flares. Weighs way more than a pull tab, and is a scoop for gravel and dirt. And what’s wrong with using a shoehorn if necessary? Plus I still hate the look, but some brands have a subtle version that works just as well and looks fine (Hyperion Tempo, eg).

[@Anthony-yd2we]

I have no idea why the Clifton 7s just didn’t work for me. I’m not sure I made it much more than 100 miles. It not only hurt my left arch, but I also got blisters at the beginning. At the same time I had a Mach 4 near the end of its shoe life and I still found them far more comfortable. I guess everyone has a shoe that others love that just don’t work for them.

[@jimduyck]

I get arch blisters on my 6s. 😕

[@bradrichards3472]

Great summary as I feel very similar to you views.. I’ve just started wearing Hokas currently alternating between my carbon x2 and my Clifton 8s and I love them both for different reasons but they both have a great fit and lock down and I feel like my foot really plants to the road well.. this is coming from using ASICS novablasts & magic speed.. I can’t really see me ever going back now… looking at some Mach 4s to complete my shoe rotation would you agree? Or advise any alternatives?

[@amirshawki1837]

I wanna make a choice between the Rincon 3, Clifton 8, Mach 5 and maybe the Asics Noosa Tri 14. I usually participate in 21k events for racing but am mostly gonna use this shoe for training I average about 40-50k per week Long runs (around pace 5 and 1-1:30 in duration), Tempos (around pace 4 and 10-15km in distance) and intervals (around pace 3:30 and 6-10k in distance) Which shoe do you think will suit me best as a daily trainer in terms of comfort and durability?

[@kofuzi]

You asked for a choice for “comfort and durability”. And among the shoes you’ve listed, I’d say go with the Clifton. It’s not the most fun or fast of the shoes you’ve listed though.

[@amirshawki1837]

@@kofuzi thank you so much, i understand. So if it wasn’t a question of durability and comfort and i just wanted to know which is better for my use Which one would you recommend?

[@MWinston]

Clifton 8 fucks. Honestly, best shoe I’ve ever done any significant mileage in. Had some great Kinvaras, but they somehow don’t feel right anymore.

[@TheGabetis]

Question about the letter after the size? D means regular or large? Because sometimes no letter… thanks

[@ludovicpiejos4379]

Great review, still on v7 with about 270k I am pretty sure I can get it to 400 - 500k so I think I will wait for v9 maybe?

[@kofuzi]

sounds like a good plan

[@neilcooper3882]

I've gone through 3 pairs of Clifton 6 and 7s and they've all died for me at around 500k - the midsole just compresses and gets too firm. Hopefully you're good for another 200k or more!

[@macau.friend]

The only thing stopping me from buying the Clifton is the price. As a daily trainer, I really don’t think it should cost that much.

[@kofuzi]

it wasn't that long ago where standard price for daily trainers was 120

[@Sharkster_J]

Really? Most of the flagship daily trainers like the Brooks ghost, Asics novablast, NB 880, Saucony ride, etc. cost $130 currently.

[@MonsieurDee]

Could this be a casual weight lifting shoe?

[@ThomasLaang]

Think I will take a run in my 15 mile old Clifton 1's tomorrow... :-)

[@kofuzi]

have a great run!

[@omegaslayer_gaming5668]

I love Clifton 7 but my shoe just fell apart. I am cross country runner so the durability is pretty bad for putting a lot of miles

[@MarcusKing]

Does the low wear on the outside of the shoe translate to stability (even if mild)?

[@kylenixon1359]

Kofuzi which one did you like more? The Clifton 8 or the Bondi 7? Can't decide between them

[@markoljustina]

8

[@paytonrules]

Do you think it'll hold up to the upcoming Chicago winter?

[@Tcoldsteel]

The reviews for this shoe are so all over the place. Goes to show you can only judge for yourself.

[@kofuzi]

my observation is that it may be useful to find a reviewer who tends to agree with you on shoes. and then look to that person first when it comes to reviews

[@Tcoldsteel]

@@kofuzi fair point. Just getting back into running after a few years break and your review helped a lot. I saw the 8 on sale and was wondering if it was a bargain or false economy so looked at quite a few reviews. Be well.

[@hao-linliang9500]

how did you find the hoka clifton 8 vs the NB 1080v11?

[@Militaryjournal1985]

I have a wide foot, should I go for a size bigger or natural size?

[@kofuzi]

these are available in a wide size. I would go with the wide version

[@Militaryjournal1985]

@@kofuzi but on online store I dont have that option

[@xyzv8640]

bought them couple of days ago w/o knowing what to expect, just owning and liking a pair of the Clifton 6s and 7s for regular runs......conclusion after first run (~ 5k) yesterday: dont really feel it. Too "ordinary" for me...🤷‍♂️ Maybe they need time to "break in", but compared to the running experience I have with NB 1's ...meh 🤷‍♂️

[@noahatlas5240]

I've been looking to get a pair of Hokas, but after talking with my PT (coming out a long injury history due to heelstriking and poor form and lack of strength) he steered me to a lower drop shoe. Hopefully when I have my footstrike and form under control, I can get myself into a pair of Hokas.

[@willv88]

I'm curious what shoes you're wearing now with lower drop? I had been running in Asics with 10mm drops for a long time and have also been try to lower the drop a bit. Went all-out 0 drop in some Altras, but just couldn't get used to them and have found a middle road with Saucony.

[@noahatlas5240]

@@willv88 yup, you're exactly right. I'm in saucony kinvara 12s. Ironically, I was running in saucony before I switched to Brooks (which caused my issues)

[@RunTommy123]

Did you lose any toenails? Had some back luck in the Cliftons

[@RodrigoJaraPiccardo]

Me too, have very bad experience with this shoe.

[@kofuzi]

I did not

[@nicholasintscher6587]

Great video and appreciate you spending time on a workhorse shoe like this. I used Cliftons in my last marathon cycle for easy and some long runs. Would've been nice to hear more about where the Clifton stands relative to its competitors in this video. Any shoes out there that fill this role as well or better than the Clifton?

[@iamdihan]

Havent tried the Cliftons but I guessing the Novablast would be similar. Love the Novablast

[@roadrunnerbikernewskater781]

I've tried Hoka 3 models last 2 years, but couldn't make any "synch" with them!! They don't love me & I feel the same.

[@kofuzi]

that's how I felt about the Clifton 1 re-release

[@albertissimo]

That’s one of your first Hoka pair not in black!

[@onemanzu]

Great review. My Clifton 7 are starting to look pretty beat at 300 miles. I might try to get another 50 out of them before retiring to gym shoes. Excited to see pictures of 3-400 mile Clifton 8s

[@kofuzi]

unfortunately, I don't get to run in many shoes to the 300 mile mark anymore

[@moyolenovo3914]

Great review as always. And yes, it is an old technology. Firm and very very expensive for what they give. Nothing but hype and gifted reviewers aggressively pushing this brand to the masses of runners.

[@chinitopogi7511]

is this good for a high arch foot runner?

[@doctorjain]

I’ve bit broader feet. Should I buy this or carbon x2. I'm getting for the same price.

[@kofuzi]

depends on a couple things. 1) I believe the Clifton is available in a wide. I would consider that first. 2) the shoes have different purposes. if you are looking for a race or workout shoe, then go with the X2. if you want an everyday shoe, go with the Clifton.

[@doctorjain]

@@kofuzi Wide option not available in India. I am looking for daily training. Max 5-6 miles in a session.

[@charlesjennings3420]

How is your knees doing when running with this shoe

[@tentimetex]

What is replacing eva as a material?

[@BarcelonaKid1]

Macha 5, NB3 or clinfton 8 for daily trainers?

[@kofuzi]

you might enjoy this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXu8Yalvp8iNbLc

[@notall1196]

more of a rincon guy myself, although i find the 3 more narrower than the 2. I still find the cliftons to narrow.

[@enkidu2562]

This is the shoe that confused me more than any other. If y'all consider this one soft, we're just speaking different languages. Put maybe 100 k in them and haven't run in them for months. Heavy and unwieldy, and no pay off in softness. This from a huge Hoka fanboy...

[@kerry_runs]

My hokas got a little squeaky after 300 miles? Awesome shoe otherwise 👌

[@dwarmour]

I had 800 miles on this shoe. . .obviously it was past its prime at 500, but thats still FIVE HUNDRED miles

[@MrMars121]

How many miles would you say the lifespan is this shoe is?

[@kofuzi]

I'd say about 300, but your mileage may vary

[@danielterkel7133]

Are they the Clifton 8 or 8 wide?

[@kofuzi]

I ran in a regular width

[@adityaraut2191]

Hey I wanted to know if I should go for the wide one? What do you recommend? I wear the pegasus 37 normal ones as of now

[@kofuzi]

more information needed to make a recommendation, so I will try to answer with various options: if you normally wear a wide running shoe, I'd get the wide. if you've ever tried a hoka before and had a good experience, I'd go with the size that you used in that previous experience. if you liked the sizing of the peg 37, I'd go with the regular hoka if you did not like the sizing of the peg 37 and you went with your usual running shoe size, I'd recommend going to a shoe store to try it on. or go with a regular hoka size. if you absolutely couldn't stand the peg 37 sizing, then probably go with a wide.

[@adityaraut2191]

@@kofuzi thank you so much!

[@abdhamidhamid9581]

does clifton 8 have a carbon plates..

[@kofuzi]

nope

[@brookehoetzer3725]

are these better than the pegasus ?

[@markoljustina]

Yes

[@rf4182]

I took a chance on the Clifton8 just not for me. They do not provide a stable platform, not sure how anybody could run in them, they are an OK walker but not great. Im back to my Brooks Ghost 14 much better platform.

[@kofuzi]

that make sense to me that fan of the Ghost would not like Cliftons. I have tried to appreciate the Ghost and a couple models of the Glycerine, but for the life of me, I just don't get why people enjoy them. but that is the wonderful part about being a runner today. there is a product for every type of preference.

[@danielmoore9214]

Mine were awesome for the first 50 miles or so....

[@Pietrotherunningfarmer]

Enjoyed them till 400 km, then they turned into a boring shoe. Lost all the responsiveness and they're not as durable as the 7.

[@kofuzi]

interesting. I didn't have any durability issues with the 7, but the foam did have some cosmetic damage on the exposed parts

[@ifonly4486]

Today EVA is not yesterday EVA. After all FF blast is EVA based and everybody raves about it !!!!!!!!

[@kofuzi]

I wonder if Hoka will start branding their eva foams

[@michaelvrbanac6923]

Lost me at the description of the upper. Vegan?

[@kofuzi]

No animal products

[@saragonmcenany6229]

Kofuzi is worldwide public service for running shoe reviews

[@oldjayrunning3287]

How does this compare to the Nike Invincible for daily runs or long runs

[@rizalar]

Right!! He’s like a People’s Runner Representatives! Keep it Coming Mic Kofuzi!

[@kofuzi]

happy to do my part