E130 - Brandon Hyde Ejected After Replay Angst in Baltimore with Alan Porter & Jim Wolf

1B Umpire Alan Porter ejected Orioles manager Brandon Hyde for arguing after Replay Review overturned Sean Barber's slide interference call, which itself followed a failed Baltimore challenge on Jim Wolf's lodged ball call. Report: www.closecalls...
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[@jjbre3920]

Well played on the Jeopardy! clip and subtle answer at the end! :)

[@holmj12]

What is a rake?

[@Yumi_Jay]

I mean he isn't wrong.

[@skydiverclassc2031]

That's an all time Jeopardy classic.

[@Pickledfeet165]

Just for the record, I have this as a legal slide in ALL rule sets.

[@Xiledchicken]

How exactly does the contact cause the overslide? Genuinely curious and don’t understand. The contact definitely didn’t add momentum to the slide.

[@toddkawana7171]

It looked like his foot was pushed slightly above the bag due to the contact with the 2nd baseman's foot, where if the contact hadn't happened, he would have (most likely) hit the side of the bag and stopped.

[@lcbp1985]

@@toddkawana7171 Nah. Wade manages to get both feet on the bag and is clearly standing on it at 3:23. There was no reason for him to stand up and he doesn't even try to stay on.

[@marimbaguy715]

It will forever baffle me that calls like fair/foul in the infield, are considered non-reviewable. The replay is clear, it was a fair ball, why can we not get the call right? The slide rule was a good overturn and they had to eject him when he's aruging like that but you can understand Hyde's frustration.

[@nateward9592]

You mean besides the fact it’s in front of everybody so what is video going to show differently? Especially right there under the umpire and the catcher? I get if it’s foul pole, outfield line etc, but when it’s infield, you either have two umpires (HP and 1B/3B), looking down the line, or in this case the home plate umpire right on top. They still need to have some ability to have the call when it’s right in front of their face. In this case, I will say he called it too quick, it did bounce the second time and rolled forward onto the plate however I can’t recall ever seeing something like that happen before where it would necessitate having it in the review rules. If we added something to the review rules every time something happens that doesn’t happen very often, then you’d be looking at every single call, every single moment and that’s not productive.

[@holmj12]

It would be cool if they had the tennis like hawkeye for ground balls that bounce high over first or third to properly judge fair or foul.

[@vincentwendt720]

Some other things I think should be reviewable are foul tip/foul ball and backswing followthrough contact.

[@mse326]

Theire are two concerns with that1) is the ground ball that may or may not have gone over the bag. It is basically impossible to see even with cameras and rather than give the team the option and always have it stand, instead they just say no replay allowed and this gets caught up in it. 2)Also when deciding what can be reviewed they also have to consider if they can give a proper remedy. When it is in the outfield we know it will be a hit and we can reasonably judge extra bases. What do you do on a play like this? Give him the bag? Someone gets hosed by the blown call either way, so there really isn't the oppotunity to "get it right"

[@Rwl751]

@marimbaguy715 Why is this hard to figure out why this play can't be reviewable? Let's say they go to replay, and say the call is overturned and that the ball was fair. Now what...?

[@thomasbarilla3214]

Well, I do hope that all Orioles from now on goes in hard to break up a double play and if someone protests, you just say go talk to Alan Porter and/or Jim Wolf, a precedent has been set. That runner could have easily avoided hitting Henderson because he was out and knew he was out long before he went into his slide in which he obviously meant to slide into Henderson although it was inadvertent that he ended up hitting the foot of Henderson. The second base umpire had it correct. For the lodge rule, I agree it was lodged, but the umpires delayed their call, so the Orioles catcher did what any good player does when nothing is called, he picked it out the space where the ball ended its motion.

[@theredarmy4884]

I just showed my wife that same jeopardy clip a week or so ago, crazy seeing it here 😂

[@dlsoh]

i'm going to call some shenanigans on criteria 3 "attempts to stay on the bag" because if you run into a player before reaching the bag, why do you get grace for sliding past the bag? if you fall off the bag laterally, or fall short of the bag, that would make more sense. But he would have cleared the bag by a country mile if he didn't run into the player in this case.

[@mahasw777]

I don't understand the call at 2nd being overturned. The fielder had the ball and stepped on the bag well ahead of the runner, and the runner was already out when the contact occurred. Why is he safe???

[@spoof1234]

The runner going to second wasn't safe. The batter was (he was called out on the slide rule violation).

[@brianmullaney6237]

Remember everyone, replay is just to make sure the calls are correct. Which is why a clearly fair ball was allowed to remain foul.

[@JoshSmith-pb8rw]

Hopefully every aspect of every play is reviewable in 2025.

[@1969EType]

I get what you're saying here. I do. It sucks. They blew it. Now then...let's say this was reviewable. Let's say replay comes back and says, "Nope! That was a fair ball." So...um...now what? Do you place the ball on the plate and tell the batter/runner to try and advance to first and then perhaps F2 can pounce on it to make a play? Do you just "give" the batter/runner 1B like you would on ball 4 or HBP or F2 interference? I fully support full use of replay whenever and however possible. As you said...to get the calls correct. But, in the game of baseball, there are always going to be some plays and calls that can't be reviewed because administratively you can't undo what has been done as a result of the initial call on the field.

[@Scott9002ca]

@@1969ETypegood point. I think foul balls should be reviewable to be fair balls, and umpires should lean towards letting these unsure situations play out as fair balls.

[@1969EType]

@@Scott9002ca Correct…it’s what the NFL does on suspected “down by contact” plays or fumbles. Let it play out and then clean it up with replay. You could absolutely give MLB umpires the same direction if they haven’t received it already. Hey guy…don’t kill the play foul unless you are 100% sure it’s foul. Let it play as a fair ball and we’ll clean it up on replay. We don’t have plate umpire’s view here. But, clearly he thought he saw it hitting the batter off the bat while he was still in the box which by rule is foul ball. It’s hard to fight your instincts even as 1 of the 76 best umpires in the world. If you see it foul, you’re going to kill it. It is what it is…I’m certainly not umpiring at that level.

[@joe2lank]

@@1969ETypeExactly my thought too. And you can’t just assume the catcher would have a successful throw to first. We have seen throws from catcher to 1B end up in RF or the even more controversial runner’s lane interference now with the expanded runner’s lane. While it sucks there are non-reviewable plays, they are non-reviewable because there is no way to correctly officiate an overturn of the call. That said, I like the idea of going the path of assume fair unless you are sure it is foul and letting replay turn a called fair into foul. That is easy to officiate an overturn. Everyone goes back and a strike is added so long as it wasn’t strike 2.

[@ravenheaven2425]

I was actually watching this game as it happened and I KNEW this was going to be content CCS. HP Umpire's foul ball call was ATROCIOUS. Hyde was justifiably upset over that blown call. In the end the Orioles still prevailed despite those unfortunate sequence of events in the 9th.

[@prsguitars42]

Curious....You an umpire??

[@critter2]

@@prsguitars42 yeag right

[@steveknowlton4632]

you didn't explain that well. The replay review was for the second out of the play (third out of the inning). The runner was out, but was not guilty of an illegal slide even though everyone knows he tried to interfere and succeeded.

[@btb2019]

I don't see how that contact could have caused him to over slide 2nd base, Wade also turned his foot in order to make contact with Henderson, but that is within the rules just a bit unsportsman like. My question now is Wade is clearly out before he even begins his slide, how is he legally allowed to initiate contact with an active fielder?

[@edthompson6131]

I'm just guessing here, (I would say spit-balling but that's illegal) , but I think the argument would be that the foot that the runner was going to use to stay in contact with the base was also the foot that made contact. The contact caused the foot to pop up and miss the base. Initially, I thought it was a good call, but upon further review I'm still not convinced it was "wrong", but at least I understand the rationale

[@rayray4192]

There was no active fielder. The infielder already fielded the ball. The fielder transitioned into a fielder throwing a ball. Interference with a thrown ball must be intentional.

[@btb2019]

@@rayray4192 every so often I feel the desire to ask a question to the internet. Thanks for reminding me why that is a worthless idea.

[@rayray4192]

@@btb2019 no one needs your questions.

[@rayray4192]

@@btb2019 when you can’t comprehend answers, concepts, and rules, then asking your question is an exercise in futility.

[@maximus9972]

Why wasn't that regular interference. The runner was out and then proceeded to slide into the fielder?

[@cblanton]

I believe she explained this very well. He had already started his slide for one thing. It was a legal slide. No interference.

[@vincenthuying98]

The odd situation though is that when Henderson put his foot on second base the runner is out. It is after all a forced run situation. Whilst Henderson is taking his foot off the base, out of the trajectory of the base runner, the runner towards second base is able to place his foot in such an awkward and sudden position that Henderson is at the very least put off balance. The rules as you stated may click, but this kind of allowed action implies to be a new way how base runners can ‘accidentally’ interfere, which will most likely lead to new injuries for second basemen and shortstops. When the runner is out, the privileges of the action towards the particular base should become insignificant and secondary to those of the fielder(s) who caused the out. Cheerio

[@LoveLawWill]

The runner turned his foot to clip the SS's foot. That's unsporting even if the rulebook has it as legal. I appreciate that this channel intends to make clarifications on MLB rules and on field rulings. However, you all might think about using your platform to call out bad rules, like this one and the non-reviewability of infield fair/foul, that spoil the on-field product and the game at large for a lot of people.

[@vincentwendt720]

There is article on the Close Call Website called "Tmac's Teachable Moments - Let's Fix Replay" back in 2017. The article talks about several changes MLB could make to improve replay. Really the only thing MLB did on that list was to give the crew chief a microphone to address the crowd.

[@posapop27]

Good vid 👍

[@andrewpiet7686]

Love your videos but you are slightly off. He violated part 4 of the bona fide slide rule. His foot goes left to make contact with the play then goes right to make contact with the bag. The changing of the path applies to any body part and not just the player as a whole.

[@Desirsar]

Don't agree on #4, the runner was wide of the base in his path and has to be inside to make contact with the fielder. Didn't change his path much, but did change his path.

[@joelwisecup3306]

Excellent explanations of the rules and of your personal observations of what all took place. Umpires made the correct calls on BOTH replay reviews. The batted ball on top of home plate should have been ruled a fair ball and subsequently a recorded put-out, but contrary to popular belief, umpires are just as human as all of us and thus can make a mistake now and then. People need to remember that these umpires are the best of the best. Just like the players, there is a reason they're in the major leagues. The umpires must make a quick and assertive call on each play during the game with NO BENEFIT OF INSTANT REPLAY.

[@KevinQuinn81]

So, he is sliding within reach of the base without changing "pathway" to initiate contact. Okay, within the definition of the bona fide slide rule, he is legal. But how on earth is he allowed to step on a guys foot while said guy is about to attempt to throw someone out at first?? Isn't that some kind of interference?

[@XSprouted]

I'm not exactly sure but think its actually on Gunnar there for remaining in the baserunning path. He could've thrown without taking that extra step after he tagged the base for the force-out but instead he steps into the path. I don't blame him though because his defense was kinda weird this series, he was probably just making sure he really got the throw off correctly, only to end up not being able to throw at all.

[@anthonyvega-fujioka4464]

Alan Porter, the crew chief, don’t take bullshit from anyone.

[@DDAUmps]

He needs to keep hands to himself.

[@darinlegore284]

who is L P (memorial letters on umpire's sleeve)

[@vincentwendt720]

I'm sure Hyde was warned not to come out, and like many other ejections, he ran the stop sign. I also have to ask what the point of arguing something that is overturned by replay. The umpires on the field didn't overturn the violation of the bona fide slide rule, the replay center did. So why argue with the people who had nothing to do with the call being changed?

[@penguin44ca]

Should be like nhl. Net is out of play.

[@bigpoppa1234]

He absolutely deliberately studded that 2nd baseman to stop the double play. Clearly out, should never have been overturned.

[@joeg5414]

4:26 how is that the wrong answer?

[@Call_me_E_C]

I mean, it's not the answer they were looking for, but for sure, the correct response can be *both* a "ho" and a "rake". No doubt Ken Jennings talked with the crew about it after that game

[@mrmoose6619]

@@Call_me_E_C I learned something today. Never heard of "rake" in those terms and had to look it up. (No, I don't have Netflix either)

[@GoNDIr1sh]

this umpire crew is jacked

[@DanielP-jq4dj]

I still think that interference call was bs

[@DDAUmps]

Porter needs to stop getting handsy. The manager isn’t your boyfriend.

[@prsguitars42]

Meh...you're just jealous.......

[@DDAUmps]

@@prsguitars42 In your dreams, fruit.

[@CenzoVD]

He changed the path of his foot to hit the SS foot.

[@penguin44ca]

Nice. Dive

[@babababad]

Between this and the infield fly interference against the White Sox this season, it's clear that Gunnar Henderson has both an excellent knowledge of the rules and also the awareness to exploit the situation to draw the call. If umpires ever wise up, he will have a harder time selling these calls.

[@bigravensfan21]

How was he exploiting anything here? He was tagging the bag and then throwing to first.

[@babababad]

​@@bigravensfan21 he took a dive to draw attention to the contact by the runner, and draw the interference call

[@michaelconger6420]

Henderson sold that play to end the game. Oscar worthy.😂

[@thesjlawshow759]

I was there that is a double play.

[@johncole273]

Your gone Brandon

[@1969EType]

A manager, coach or player coming out onto the field to argue with the result of a play after it was sent to replay is really one of the stupidest ejections we can have in the game. You know you're getting tossed for that. Everyone around the game WANTS replay because they want...to get...the calls...correct. Here is a perfectly good example of why replay is so useful. And although it resulted in an overturn of the call on the field, the final adjudication of the play at 2B was absolutely correct. Replay...got...the call...correct. So, for Hyde to come out and argue that? Just dumb. Millionaires playing a child's game do not need to have their manager ejected in order to get "fired up"...cry me a river...

[@jameswall1987]

Freakazoid, Chimpanzee! FreakaYou, FreakaMe!

[@roymauler]

They should have never changed the rule about sliding to break up double plays. Now you get the game being decided by people watching rather than the players on the field. That was an integral part of the game. Gone because of the wimped out world we live in.

[@perchlarkin]

The rule is there to try to prevent injuries. Some fans either don't understand it or think there should be more injuries not fewer.

[@roymauler]

@@perchlarkin The risk of injury is part of all physical contests. I don't wish injury upon anyone, but I also have lost all interest in the sports that have been diluted and sanitized. All the big sports (MLB, NFL, NBA) have made a great mistake by softening and, in some cases, fundamentally changing their product. They think it will attract younger viewers (new fans). It won't. Most of the youth have little interest in these sports compared to when I was coming up. It has run off many older fans like me.

[@voxelation]

Teams do not want players with multi-million dollar contracts injured because of idiotic ideas about how the game should be played. Players don't want to be injured by other players. The game has changed for the better.

[@DDAUmps]

@@voxelation It’s people like you that defend commercialization and crazy salaries that have ruined sports.

[@zachansen8293]

It was integral, but it doesn't NEED to be integral. Keeping players is much more important than whatever you think was lost by removing it.

[@rayray4192]

How about taking your mask off Mr. Umpire sir?