CLUB LUNCH - "A Lunch with Former Singaporean Minister for Foreign Affairs George Yeo"

[@williamc9578]

Not being in political office certainly has its benefits and more degreees of freedom, but George Yeo is really insightful, well-read, erudite, and has great clarity of thought, drawing from history, geo-politics, cultural sensibilities, and also his own lived experiences, which are many. Refreshing to hear his perspective on Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, and China. Sadly, though, the questions, especially from the journalists in the audience (Foreign correspondents) revert to type. Every single question is trying to elicit some sort of negative response on China. Sometimes, you wonder whether there's a closed-minded serum that is pre-requisite for all in the Foreign Correspondents fraternity.

[@jt7725]

Don‘t forget that these correspondents are propaganda machine tools for US EU empires.

[@donaldjoseph3903]

GY is well known as pro PRC. So there is a certain amount of automatic discount to views pertaining to PRC.

[@infoseeker1187]

@@donaldjoseph3903 By saying he's pro PRC, shows the biased lens that this group of "journalists" use to understand the world. I've watched a vid on youtube with Keith Richburg as an interviewer, and his arrogance and sense of superiority over Asian values was a real pain to watch.

[@-jfo-]

​@@donaldjoseph3903 no you're wrong. He describes and understands Chinese CULTURE. The same way you are being offensively implying that the West is unbiaised. You're full of it.

[@donaldjoseph3903]

@@-jfo- what culture? GY hardly understood Chinese language.

[@kaimingraymondchoi9909]

Interesting question from the audience "Why HK does not have people with the same calibre as Yeo". I tell you the reaon. I was born in HK at the time where it was a British colony. We studied history in a highly restrictive manner. We started from Zhou and went all the way down to Ching. But our lessons stopped before the opium war. We knew very little about modern history of China and the rest of the world. I was interested in history and I had to find books from overseas. Without such exposure how could we find people with similar calibre as Yeo. British has political science in their colleges. They had colonised so many countries. They knew full well how to control the people that they colonized.

[@slly4276]

☺️Agree with you. I have very little knowledge about China’s n Asian history which are taught very shallowly till I started reading books by the late Dr Han Suyin and realised how much western propagandas we have been exposed to in our young age. The western imperialists have done a good job colonising not only our countries but also our minds. Our craving for anything west in the past is an example of a long term marketing strategies but fortunately things have turned around with the emergence of social media’s . Even now the big media corporations,the likes of Murdoch who control medias in the west and the military industrial complexes try to propagate lies to justify tax payers money for military expansions, in countries so far from their homes.

[@verasinn9285]

Another difference not noted. Singapore is a country, it had to develop its people to full capacity so they could fight to let their country grow. Hk was a colony. Its local civil servants were never taught to think and decide but only to implement.

[@janetang2426]

Vera Sinn Exactly!

[@burung81]

@@verasinn9285 spot on answer!

[@yijiun7553]

Singaporean leaders respect the British monarchy though.

[@cklee804]

Since he is no longer in political power ..it is good if Lawrence Wong will have him as his advisor... he is a truly a leader which Singapore needs and for Asean countries in this time of political turbulence

[@HENGJOSE]

Very interesting. Proud of you sir, George Yeo. Your knowledge,names, histories,events, times..so impressed. Very proud to have a Singaporean like you and our late Grand Master of Asia/World Mr Lee Kuan Yew.

[@genec390]

I like his comment regarding if you stick with principle then we are condemned to eternal conflict. To me, this clearly shows he has solid understanding of human nature. In other words, if we all think our way is the right way and others need to change to our way then there will be conflicts. If the world is run by George Yeo there will be no conflicts, but if run by Keith Richburg then there will be plenty of conflicts.

[@stayprepared2388]

Every countries have some traitors , Singapore is no exception.

[@franknjamen3044]

Mr George big respect 🙌 I am amazed the way you know the history of China. You're very objective

[@robertcktham5056]

👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻 Can't find words to describe this man's wisdom but giving thumbs

[@shencheanglow3726]

If there is any misunderstanding of China amongst the western world, it comes from this group of foreign correspondence in Hong Kong. I actually thought they have left after the implementation of new security law.

[@infoseeker1187]

Sadly Keith Richburg is still director of the Journalism at HKU. You can think how the cultural bias and hatred still being spread to the young generations in HK by the remnants of colonists and ignorant supremacists.

[@josephlow1102]

Immensely proud of Mr George Yeo - a worthy successor to LKY

[@smboon9509]

99 😊

[@smboon9509]

😊

[@Growthunlimited]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Mar-ec7et]

When i saw him looking away and the side of his face, i saw similarity to LKY. Wow !!! He has same puffy eyes as LKY.

[@mengsiongkheng113]

Don't know really. Not sure if he had stayed in PAP he would have had the chance to do so many different things. The whip would ensure he stays consistent with party line.

[@kswong8560]

I loved how George Yeo said you’ve got to watch the whole video, and how he mentioned Kosovo, and the partitions of India, Korea, etc.

[@pomodoro385]

He mentioned the partition of Kashmir, war between India and Pakistan, not the partition of India. (Partition of British India was demanded by Muslim League, agreed by Gandhi and Nehru, and British then drew line)

[@Albert_Einstein_not]

The breath and depth of GY’s knowledge in history and world affairs is simply mind blowing

[@stayprepared2388]

Every countries have some traitors , Singapore is no exception.

[@waynerainer5250]

i think this is the only video posted by the FCC that has over 30k views in the past 2 years. the next highest view is only 1K+... well done GY

[@fluxmaden]

When he ended the last question with "Then I think we are condemned to an eternity of conflict" It gave me goosebumps about how true it is.

[@jbrkjferkjbekjb]

rhetoric

[@kapk]

Suspect this might be the best session ever hosted by the club.

[@63051]

Probably his last because he just decimated the standard "anti-China bias" of the FCC members.

[@plb475]

Always learning something from this man, wish I have friends like George.

[@TheYankeetango]

Great man who speaks his mind.

[@pkchow2580]

My favorite man ! We miss u dearly in the government .

[@NoohCee]

He is such a great scholar and thinker.

[@Thekidisalright]

I love how George Yeo pointed out the host works for Washington Post after all his loaded questions, to let the less-informed audience know he is the mouth-piece of a right wing conservative media company.

[@givldmpnnodjszrtovsmd]

the question on Lee's family is so unwarranted and unprofessional. It is a retaliation to George's answer on MBS and totally showed what a jerk the host is

[@marvinfok65]

@@givldmpnnodjszrtovsmd I lost all respect for Washington Post especially after the last few years! They are nothing but propagandists! The last person who practiced independent journalism is Assange and he is arrested for telling the truth! Anyway, it is not important as the West is going into a downward spiral due to their own stupidity! In 10 years time, these propagandist can only serve a very small percent of the global population which is only 12%! The rest of the world is not giving a damn to these arrogant media manipulators.

[@davidwong7283]

He & Kishore mabuhbani are great 👍.

[@donaldjoseph3903]

Both are great fans of PRC..

[@josephinecolond8933]

Both are great lecturer for China and its history

[@simroysten7963]

Kishore suffers from TDS and thinks Trump is a nincompoop, and that is what his bffs from the us tells him. His friends also showed him how to go about with an air of arrogance around him.

[@calvyncraven1141]

​@@donaldjoseph3903 because both knows the PRC well. Others don't.

[@laraw840]

@@donaldjoseph3903 Obviously you don't know China and Chinese history. because if you do, you wouldn't make such a comment lightly. Both of them have an exceptional understanding of China and that makes their lectures insightful and top-notch.

[@ganboonmeng5370]

Lky is not just great ...he trained the best in Singapore to be world best ...another is prof Kishore Banubani ...

[@lq9734]

Both learned directly from the best there ever was.

[@papichoku2442]

It’s a loss to singapore that George Yeo did not become Singapore’s PM.

[@michaellee3314]

Singaporeans already regretting kicking him out although we tried very hard to bring him in again without any success. Sad.

[@roysmartypants]

He couldn't have become Singapore PM anyway because he is the same generation as Lee Hsien Loong. Although I think he is the better one.

[@fengjikangqiang]

Perhaps that is exactly why LKY challenged voters in yeo's constituency? Machiavellian? LOL ,all is fair in politics.

[@aychew]

LKY's son LHL was the prime minister back then when Mr.George Yeo loss out in the election. When you are weak you will kick the strong out.@@fengjikangqiang

[@siewfuayding114]

He does not have the calibre.

[@enghongong]

Great talk. However, I think the pointing gestures of the moderator are too distracting..

[@daning9764]

George is honest and direct, and certainly uncomfortable to the US and the West by large

[@edwinlim9826]

GY said no to both questions regarding returning to SG politics. Political leaders have always been supported by intellectuals and advisors. Just look at past POTUS including the current one. GY speaks for a more balanced relationship but acknowledges we are in a prolonged era of great transition. What he will not comment on is how this great change will impact SG, which is actually quite clear to anyone who can extrapolate the different scenarios.

[@yijiun7553]

Change in value of currency against US dollar from 2008 to 2023: China’s Yuan: 0% India’s Rupee: -65% India has thus lost 2/3rd of the value of currency.

[@qunali1598]

You got to watch the whole video. Sure I did!

[@ssss8162]

Very humble and polite man

[@gl7252]

The host’s head keeps swiveling, why? Is he uncomfortable with George Yeo’s responses that don’t conform to the Western views?

[@tweedy4sg]

Wish this event could last for another hour longer as pointed out by the host.

[@seaskyguy]

Bravo to the guest! His response on the Ukraine question is excellent !

[@hermansuherman4194]

Big respect and big thank you, Mr Yeo. I learned a lot from this talk.

[@mrsesat7716]

this man very prof and detailed...even date an place,he remember very easy with his old age brain.

[@tommos1]

Great talk. Love the interesting anecdotes and history lessons.

[@keithng5249]

"The distance from Singapore to HK is similar to London to Moscow" I actually went to check and verify and was... *Mind blown*

[@cheongyouchoong3730]

Excellent 🇸🇬 ♥️✌️🙏👍💪🌟🌞🪙🥇😊

[@yangtung]

BY Yeo, you are sei beh ho. The best and good man.Singapore calibre.

[@gingermintrose]

I strongly feel that the FCC host did not like George Yeo's cogent explanations!

[@esy15288]

No. Just that he is anti China if you have followed his previous interviews

[@tweedy4sg]

Agree... that's bcs he's more interested in promoting murican gov't & MSM's narrative which GY constantly just batted it away 😛.

[@everythingandmore5537]

​@@tweedy4sg The elephant in the room is will the ethnic Chinese in ASEAN support the Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Would the ethnic Chinese be ASEAN be considered a fifth column by their respective governments.

[@tweedy4sg]

@@everythingandmore5537 Ofc, they do. All ASEAN gov'ts except for the parasitic Pinoys will stay neutral.

[@fvalemus5377]

​@@everythingandmore5537 one cannot invade oneself, absurd

[@ralpheyew]

certainly a humble leader . Everyone should learn world history and geography to avoid making same mistake of past

[@btgan3838]

Right, and don't just swallow the former colonial masters' versions of world history. Read extensively and from a wide variety of sources.

[@harrykekgmail]

In my opinion, the only worthy Singaporean successor to LKY with geopolitical viewpoints worthy of LKY himself.

[@everythingandmore5537]

George Yeo at minute 16 criticizes the US but bend over backwards to please the CCP. It's his habit always be careful to say anything bad about china but have a free hand to speak bad about the US. He appears to be scared of china.

[@KevanMajere33]

Your opinion belongs in the realm of the unfalsifiabilities, which when seen in the light of LKY's noted pragmatism, renders your opinion totally irrelevant and unnecessary.

[@KevanMajere33]

You are probably just a disgruntled person who is old enough to live through LKY's active period, but in uour mind failed to live up to your supposed potential.

[@everythingandmore5537]

@@KevanMajere33 LKY was a dictator. That's a fact. He made sure his son replaced him. Ethnic Chinese singaporeans love him because he apparently brought them prosperity. However if LKY quit as PM in 1969 and let his long time deputy take over Singapore will still be prosperity and Singapore would have been a liberal democracy which respect human rights.

[@michaellee3314]

You just embarrassed yourself for telling everybody what a silly, unknowledgeable and naive person you are. All your statement you made were based on assumption and not facts. Stop making a fool out of yourself will you?

[@ricongcheehim3784]

He is my most admired Minister in Sg

[@soonpohtay4794]

😂😂😂the African American host is old enough to remember how young African Americans had been advised how to behave when they go down South in the old Confederacy..

[@Sam-Magic]

Lee #1 -- Spoke with Authority Lee #2 -- Spoke with Humility Yeo -- Spoke with Diversity Humble view of Ex-Prof. & Speaker at Oxford

[@shlee3120]

Noticed that logical,rational speakers have wealth of historical context to present. We, plebeians,can follow this occurrence to the now.Thats the debate we learnt in schools in 70's.l learnt history in school n can follow this reasoning.But l have met colleagues who never study history in school!!!! So they listen to present day media n take all in as gospel!So please learn history every one.Its life's journey need to know to be informed.🙏🙏🙏

[@lengtayguan1109]

Good insight...❤

[@ianthesiow3013]

Very sharp guy... Salute. Brilliant mind.

[@Aramsa-Khan]

Without the trouble maker USA interfering in the 9-dash line, the ASEAN and East Asian people know that China can be magnanimous to resolve the boundary amicably with all of them.

[@konaIII]

That moderator keeps saying "from his Western perspective". Look back at his own history, just a couple of hundred years, and see if he is "Western". Has he ever thought "what did the British do to get my forefathers over to the West? A first class passage on an East India Company ship?

[@Penaming]

Maybe what is lacking is the rejuvenation of the African continent. Hopefully China and BRICS can give that region a boost so ethnic Africans arouund the world will have more agency when deciding on which side to pick. Can't really blame him if he doesnt have the option.

[@konaIII]

@@Penaming Does not have the option? You mean that Africans have to keep saying Bwana, and Indians have to keep saying Sahib until such time that they have "agency to pick"? That is the mentality of a slave. The Africans who were forced to grovel and call their masters Bwana, I cannot blame. They had to survive. But I have no sympathy for Africans who have had a modicum of success to call themselves Western. Am I supposed to call him Bwana?

[@Penaming]

@@konaIII He is only human. If he isn't pro-West, without the backing of Wapo, what can he amount to if he's based solely in today's Africa representing the African voice? I think he wouldn't even be picked on to ask George a question. If Africa could get their act together in the coming multi-polar world order to form a formidable economic and political bloc like the EU, then perhaps their voices might be heard more?

[@fajarliong]

In Indonesia, there is a proverb "kacang lupa kulit" meaning "peanut forgetting its shell". There are too many people in this world fall under this category.

[@konaIII]

@@fajarliong It is one thing to forget your shell. It is another to put on a different shell.

[@spider5895]

This so-called president of FCC is a pain to watch. He shouldn't be the host if he has no interest in GY's speech. Distracting and rather rude.

[@sinbinny]

Yes what's with him interrupting Yeo with the Lee's family feud gossip? Face palm

[@biboli9986]

The host is so terrible that he doesn’t even hide the fact he’s not interested in Yeo’s answer to his Ukraine question. When it turned out Yeo would not pander to his bias, he started looking around into spaces and reading a random page of the book in his hand.

[@eymeeraosaka2954]

A wise man indeed George Yeo....

[@digitalnomad5643]

Insightful as usual.

[@zacharycohen9985]

28:41 when GY visibly sighs when asked about MBS, i chuckled. oh WaPo you've come a long way

[@whackino]

Beautiful mind

[@anailian8217]

What a wisdom man

[@liamporter1137]

George is brilliant. Awesome.

[@Penaming]

The 9 dash line is not about territory. If you super impose the 1st island chain of US "defence" against China, it overlaps perfectly. The 9 dash line is about an existential threat to China's sovereignty. Don't play play with that red line until and unless the US retreats to the 2nd island chain. The peace solution becomes, can ASEAN (perhaps together with Australia) convince the US to shift back to the 2nd island chains?

[@kohyangchi4307]

George Yeo , Singapore 's GREATEST THINK TANK & PAP 's GREATEST LOSS 🥵

[@lompanglompang6628]

Voted out by Singaporean who think that opposition is better 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@lukemesenas8330]

Wonderful!

[@chenyl0525]

Very Enlightening.

[@jbrkjferkjbekjb]

anyone finds it strange that Yeo never makes eye contact with the host even when the host is directly speaking to him?

[@bunyu6237]

I mean the host is very slimy

[@jbrkjferkjbekjb]

@@bunyu6237 not at all

[@AyY846]

Tremendous talk!

[@tonytan6547]

That fellow who asked,cannot distinguish between "cultural chinese' n "political chinese"

[@PhilipBurke-go2mh]

When?

[@justinlim962]

this moderator is very rude.. he does not seem interested in this topic as he appears wanting to only hear if George Yeo will bash China

[@kaimingraymondchoi9909]

he is learned

[@yongzeehow2045]

George Lee still very sharp for his age .

[@kevinrock9802]

杨

[@cheongwenpa]

Can you believe that Singaporean actually voted this man out of politics ?

[@btgan3838]

It won't have happened if not for the faulty "invention" of GRC

[@sinbinny]

Pls tell us what happened and what's GRC? Much appreciated.

[@desolatedgamer1081]

Very unfortunate that He is not serving as Minister or even prime minister of Singapore.

[@clementchinsterer]

Currently the Philippines allowed usa using 4 islands to be American war bases. How does Asean prevent Asean to be used by American military power?

[@ssss8162]

"No to both questions" Lol

[@xiaoleichen3694]

I guess not being a minister of sgp gov gives him a lot of freedom to speak his own opinion.

[@manuelmanuel9248]

Democrats and republicans agree on China and also agree on the gringo plutocracy’s dislike for the Nordic model and are enamored of the plutocracy’s profound devotion for warmongering and ruthless regime change in other countries.

[@boysiedent6149]

All people’s get exited for one reason or another. However Amerikans get extremely exited while contemplating a visit to the KAZI. Why is that ?

[@fwang3695]

the first guy who asked question is such an embarrassment

[@othmanmajid6380]

.....I'd rather not answer this question as it is a family matter......this shows the shallowness of the WSJ reporter, the difference between people who are ignorant of protocols and those who abide by protocols....

[@bradfordsaunders3874]

Just imagine if there was NO division between India & Pakistan!

[@LonganLee]

I enjoy the porlamparing

[@awatsycamorefarmnearsiouxf7526]

Because of the one child policy China of the ast of CCP, China is facing a population crash in the next 10 years. I would have liked the speaker to have addressed that dilemma.

[@seebayhor]

G Yeo is a deep thinker. Probably one of the few politicians who has substance and not a bull-shitter!

[@manuelmanuel9248]

Which pax americana? Where is the “pax” in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, etc

[@msc6539]

This host is always setting traps in his questions.

[@manuelmanuel9248]

Gringo hypocritical discourse always leaves out that expanding Nato into Ukraine provoked the invasion of Ukraine

[@yijiun7553]

It's interesting seeing him describing China as a cancer patient who needs Hong Kong. So, did he regard China as his wife or son?

[@ianthesiow3013]

🎉❤😇😢.. 👉🏻👉🏼👉🏽 America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question... Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * 2014 - 2022 - 9 countries yet to verify. Pakistan 2022 * Haiti 2022 * Israel 2023

[@josephinecolond8933]

Ex Minister is always worried about Hkong and China and Singapore history and its connections and culture to prosper. How about India and our close neighbour Malaysia and the close culture and exchange of labour for our economy. No mention of this at all.

[@Penaming]

wrong audience?

[@maxdc988]

The US/West target is China, not India or Malaysia. WW3 nuclear war any time in this region and it seems only you are concerned about fringe players. 😂

[@rationalthinker2200]

What an interesting point George made...The Israelites annex all the lands they won during the 1967 war with Syria...Palestine etc..Now where is the US and Western principle to sent arms to the Syrians or Palestine to regain these territories...They are no principles just diversions to obtain whatever it is the geo strategic advantage..Let digress back to history. There is a UN mandate and resolution to defend South Korea from the North Korean invasion in the 1950s..but there was never a resolution to invade North Korea in return and capture Pyongyang and the conquest of the entire North Korea up to the Yalu River ..the Chinese and Noth Korea border. So we see many instances where borders and principles are just smokescreens...Mc Arthur just decided that there was a military strategic advantage..and tried to conquer the entire North Korea ..until the Chinese came down from the Yalu river and push the US Forces back to the original border....Now who breach the sancity of international borders..

[@lostinmuzak]

Interesting to see how mr.yeo will never like to have an eye contact with the Keith. Not even a thank you. Does Mr. Yeo has a problem with American power? 😅😅

[@leslieleong5522]

Mr Yeo should be Sgp President...

[@chowkt1968]

george is a historian, just that , dont think he has special ability to predict new outcomes

[@lompanglompang6628]

He was voted out by Singaporean who believed that opposition was better 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kohmk2329]

Not true Singaporean at that time needs a opposition to check the government ,is not about him ,we knew he was good! Is was unfortunate but end of the day our government got the messages 😂

[@siewfuayding114]

GY pretty pro China

[@billdave463]

Well ! He hasn’t been in the good books of Lee Kuan Yew for sometimes. That’s why he fell out. There was something that he said that was not right politically.

[@MACKOBII]

The host thinks himself a white guy.

[@lq9734]

He's Uncle Tom

[@taipangwong356]

He thinks he is Obama, in fact he is just another Karen

[@nanhinting7447]

1. He is not LKY. 2. We do not measure a person's worth just by their intelligence and personal achievements but by what he or she has achieved for society and humanity as a whole. In this aspect, I disagree with those sycophants who compare him to LKY which in my two cents worth of opinion GY is far from it. He certainly is not close to that class yet Many academicians can answer with intelligent witty answers, Mr Kishore Mabhubani is one of them and the other been the now current FM of India Mr Jaishankar.

[@davidlee4498]

Hear! Hear! He was voted out by the mandate of the people, he was black balled by his own party - same fella who said "an integrated resort is not a casino".

[@chinkayeok6117]

I respect your view esp on Jaishankar. 😇

[@meganfoxbf]

George Yeo out of Singapore politics for donkey years still need to hold on to the Singapore Minister brand title ? trying so hard to hang on to Singapore brand ? no confidence of himself ?

[@LonganLee]

Is George owning at least 1 GCB ? Or Renting black and white?

[@stayprepared2388]

Every countries have some traitors , Singapore is no exception.

[@LonganLee]

Does that mean India Diaspora is not patriotic to India? I think what he say is merely his opinion and should not be regarded as Absolute Truth. His view suggests chinese americans may not be fully Loyal to America😅

[@lq9734]

It would suggest Chinese Americans (diaspora) not being patriotic towards China, which is definitely true. The West is very skilled at weaponizing immigrants.

[@Albert_Einstein_not]

I think you have comprehension problems